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Non Gaming Discussions => Off-Topic => Topic started by: CHIZZY on March 12, 2002, 08:42:12 AM
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Yep, that\'s right peeps. Come here if you are a fellow supporter of military action against worldwide terrorism. Spit venom. Get up on a soapbox and act as is you know what\'s best for the world.
I was on my way to work this morning when I noticed new signs on my usual route out of the city. They are blue & white & had some kind of asterisk symbol with the words: "EVACUATION ROUTE" ...
WTF?
We gotta crush these turds now.
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I hate how americans run around scared everywhere, that pisses me off, we need to just pull out of that f*cking region, so they leave us the hell alone, clinton got us into this ****, let him deal with it.
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I\'m with ya CHIZ! Totally agree with it all myself, IMO its about time someone dropped a nuke on Sadam, he\'s been around far too long, making his insane plans, grrrrr!
Evacuation Route?? $hit man, sounds like this pot is about to boil over to me.
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I KNOW EXACTLY HOW YOU FEEL.
I was getting some beer & smokes at a gas station, when I asked the towel head at the counter to grab me a coppy of "Juggs" magazine. I asked him, "Hey man why do you and your people hate us americans so much?" and he\'s all like, "Uh... I\'m from Trinidad..." Man, what the hell\'s that suposed to mean? I don\'t care what arab country you come from, I asked a simple question!!! These people are just plain rude & dumb. I say we BOMB that Afganistan country right now!!!
and the way we do it is set a computer up so that it randomly picks a four digit number every day, and whenever the number is a prime number, we launch the attack!!!! That way nobody knows the exact date of the attack so it will be a complete surprise!!! KILL THEM ALL, we don\'t need their crappy Afgan blankets anyway, we all use good ol\' American Quilts made in Mexico with Chinese fabric!!!
ps - this was a joke.
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I’m all for war if it serves a purpose. I don’t desire to see our men and woman get killed over seas for some political gamble being played on our military forces. I do think though, that Bush is going to kick some butt on the terrorists and show the world that if you mess with us we’ll cut your fricken head off and feed it to your camel…
I hope that the American people bone up and get angry with these people over there. They innocently slaughtered thousands of our brothers and sisters in the 9/11 incident. I for one am still pissed off about that and will not back down from wanting to see our forces go over there and rid the planet of these sob’s!
:mad:
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The Islamic extremists are hard at work to overtake/topple nations, particularly in the Mid-East.
If we were to leave the Mid-East, and say "You all are on your own.", the world would melt down.
One year, two? Maybe 5 and most or all of the Mid-East would be run by these extremists (The new Nazi\'s) who want to litterally force conversion or kill you.
This would leave most the worlds oil and a BOATLOAD of military might in the hands of killers.
Europe has no will to fight. America is the last bastion of freedom with military muscle, as flawed as we are. In the above scenario the entire world would be plunged into a hell you can\'t imagine.
That\'s why we\'re there (among other reasons).
Now, with the new and improved Jihad against America, and every Western (cultural) nation, the killers now are destabilizing the entire globe. This isn\'t America\'s fault. Retalliation and war is nessacary, because innaction would lead to the above scenario.
It will ultimately lead to a global conflict, probably with a limited nuclear involvement. But the path we are on now leaves the Western powers with some say in the course of events, while the "pull out" method would put us in a corner-- in a totally defensive position, which to me is much more dangerous to the survival of humanity.
Get ready.
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Originally posted by CygnusXI
Europe has no will to fight. America is the last bastion of freedom with military muscle, as flawed as we are. In the above scenario the entire world would be plunged into a hell you can\'t imagine.
That\'s why we\'re there.
My respect for you just went up another notch Cyg. :)
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Originally posted by mjps21983
I hate how americans run around scared everywhere, that pisses me off, we need to just pull out of that f*cking region, so they leave us the hell alone, clinton got us into this ****, let him deal with it.
Clinton got us into this ****? What the **** are you talking about?
The only reason we\'re in this is because of 9/11, and that Osama bin Laden is the culprate, and the fact that Bush has poured so much money into the military, we had to use it somewhere. Clinton would be looking for an excuse to get us out of this, and how you got to where you said this was all Clinton\'s fault is beyond me, but it sounds pretty ignorant to me.
Oh, and the Evacuation Thing...I\'m not sure what it\'s for, but if it\'s an older sign, it\'s probably from the Cold War, and the U.S.S.R. When they had (and still do) have missles pointed at us.
See Yuz.
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No Clinton didn\'t get us into this.
But.
Clinton did bomb fellow Christians, in defence of "Ethnic Albainians" in Yugoslavia. I always though that was absolutely wrong.
Since this is a warmonger thread, I will explain.
Slobadan (sp) and his legitimate government (albeit not a true Democracy, but who are WE to force our form of government. If the people want him, and they did, so be it.), were having a internal civil war.
The albainians were the agressors.
The kla (Military wing of ALbainians) were staging guerilla warfare and also were funded by......wait for it.... that\'s right, Islamic extremists, including all the usual suspects.
The strategy was basically to have the staging areas for their raids and HQ in local villages sympathetic to their cause (what cause? See post above. Another example of trying to topple governments that aren\'t of your belief-- Serbia=Christian, must kill).
Well, then the guerillas would run and hide within the populace after conducting military assaults on the Serbian population. This went on back and forth. Milo got fed up.......
Bang, bang, bang.....
Now we\'ll just kill all the villagers. You hide em\', you die too. This is the same philosophy the US is using in Afghanistan (Bye Bye Taliban!!).
So now:
1. Milo is in the Hague "World Court" for genocide and crimes against humanity.
2. The "Ethnic Albainians" are conducting a guerilla war in Macedonia.
...Seems Milo was just doing his job. Atrocities were on both sides, but the Albainians stoked the fire.
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I dont like Clinton but Im not gonna go off and blame him for this. That is just plain retartded.
And I dont like going to war but are men and woman are there for a cause, and that is to take care of those as*holes who think it\'s alright to go bomb a free country that they are soo jealous of.
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the evacuation signs are new... :eek:
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I think there\'s two ways we can look at the situation we\'re in now. We can see the attacks of 9|11 as the first in a wave of increadible attacks against the US by Islamic extreemists because they hate the ideals of freedom and democracy that America stands for and are jelouse of our contries success while they perpetually live in sh*t. A nice thought, which serves those who spread propoganda well.. but a wrong one all the same. That\'s not why the Islamic fundmentalists hate us. It\'s our policies in the middle east, and our single sided support of many Islamic enemies that incur their hatred. We are seen as puppet masters, with strings of cash which directs their enemies movements and attacks. To merely go in, in the name of freedom and democracy, and carpet bomb everyone who hates us in the middle east will only create more hatred towards us. Desroying Al-Queda may only give rise to multiple other terrorist organizations which may become even more powerful over time.
Now, we can also look at 9|11 as a wakeup call, which brings forth a major reveloution in the way we conduct ourselves over there. Perhaps we should look more at the value of "Human life and dignity" than at the price of Oil comming of out the region. Lead by example. Cause really, that\'s about the only reason we\'re over there. I\'m not sure what policies we could instate to make things better, as none of us are policial scientists, but I do think that not turning a blind eye to everything which dosen\'t effect our pocketbooks is a good start. We truely should uphold the ideals of justice and freedom like we proclaim, and not just use spin doctors to invent the facts to fit the reality of what happened.
In either case, we also need to not only teach these people that more can be accomplished by non-violent protest than through suicide bombs. Support and give concessions to those who gather peacefully in unity under a single cause. Anyone who cannot keep their people under control or supports violent protests should be met with a cold shoulder and a depf ear at the least.. if not retaliatory strikes against those who think that violence is the way. Live by the sword, die by the sword. That\'s the way things have been going over there for centuries. Let them keep that policy if they wish.. but also reward those who are willing to change.
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sonyfan- do you think that we could have taught people in the middle ages that burning witches is wrong? These are people who are still brought up with no hope of ever achieving true objectivity. They are brought up with a singular purpose, with a singular mindset. They are truly a medievil society.
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Iraq has some aces up their sleeves you have to know that.... I mean, come on, there is obviously a reason that every single god damn time that weapons inspectors come down they are stalled or not allowed in. Saddam is has something baking in the oven. Every country is scrambling for the biggest toys they can get their hands on. Its sad really, everyone has their guns pointed at each other. And then Bush backing out of the anti-ballistic missile defense treaty, I feel, was a huge mistake. War with Iraq, will just make matters worse in the Middle East....
We just need a good world orgy.
:D
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Originally posted by mjps21983
clinton got us into this ****, let him deal with it.
you are an ass if you really believe that. if anything..clinton hardly did anything..ppl said he was to chicken chit to do so.
I for one think the US gets into other people\'s business too often..and only when its profitable for them.
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Originally posted by CygnusXI
Europe has no will to fight. America is the last bastion of freedom with military muscle, as flawed as we are. In the above scenario the entire world would be plunged into a hell you can\'t imagine.
Bah! More than half of the forces in Afganistan are not Americans. NATO isn\'t American only. And Danes, Germans etc. have died down there only a few days ago.
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that\'s true samwise, I think we tend to forget that... Cheers to our contemporary freedom fighters from all over the world. :)
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Samwise, please forgive me if I somehow belittled European military personell. As a former USAF I have the utmost respect of the military, both here and abroad.
I did not mean to say (nor did I) that Europe as a collective are abstaining from conflict. The only thing that paragraph inferred is that Europe, as a whole, would rather not get involved. That isn\'t a slam on the military men and women, it\'s a statement on the governance of nations in Europe and their "wait and see" attitude.
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No problem, I meant no harm either. It\'s just that we should look at this as a whole - not as US vs. Islam or whatever. It\'s the western civilization and their beliefs vs. the terrorists that try to take away our freedom. I respect any man or woman of any nationality that does something to fight terrorism. They are the real heroes.
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The reason we (europe) are not as involved as you may wish is because the US has taken the step forward ahead of other nations, due to the fact that they have been the main target. We are right behind, and are giving full support. I\'m not sure which other euro nations are involved (I know of only france and germany really, please correct me if I\'m wrong), but i can tell you for sure, if London had been targetted like New York, there would be a hell of a lot more Brits out there.
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You and I agree completely.
I also have stated that it is beyond being a "US" thing. Just thinking of all the cells scattered throughout the entire world is really scary. Someone tell those idiots that the Crusades ended centuries ago....:rolleyes:
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Originally posted by CygnusXI
Someone tell those idiots that the Crusades ended centuries ago....:rolleyes:
OMG - The Crusades Have Ended? Wahooooo!! Time to go and greet the returning King!!! :D
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The Middle East hasn\'t been in a state of peace for over 2000 years.... hopeless situation...
Time to head to Mars..
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I\'m bored with the middle east, lets all countries back the fu@k out , and let them fight for it. No other solution in sight.
You know this world will only hate Americans more if they stick their collective noses in others peoples Sh!t.
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Yeah, that middle east situation is totally outta control, NATO need to step in soon and sort it out, cos those people are f\'in mad! Soon, there aint gonna be a middle east, the rate they\'re goin.
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Originally posted by CygnusXI
....it\'s a statement on the governance of nations in Europe and their "wait and see" attitude.
That attitude almost made the U.S. government lose world war two. Had the message from the germans been intercepted pre-ww2 then we as american people would most likely be under german rule still.
I say we let those little towel heads wipe their own asses with their own blood-staind towels. Not our American lives. I have great respect for my country and my fellow countrymen as a whole. And If it were up to me then they wouldn\'t exist anymore.
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http://www.usatoday.com/hlead.htm
I\'m gonna post this here, too. (already posted on "check please")
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Bin Laden thinks he\'s gonna win this war. Half of his troops are dead, his terrorist organization is crumbling and he thinks he will win against nuclear bombs, sophisticated tanks that are almost indestructable and destructive weapons. All he has are tanks that a knife could destroy and AK47\'s. Sheesh :rolleyes:
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Originally posted by Titan
Bin Laden thinks he\'s gonna win this war. Half of his troops are dead, his terrorist organization is crumbling and he thinks he will win against nuclear bombs, sophisticated tanks that are almost indestructable and destructive weapons. All he has are tanks that a knife could destroy and AK47\'s. Sheesh :rolleyes:
Actually there have been reports that the Al Queda is regrouping... And I doubt will ever use nuclear weapons... I doubt there are tanks deployed there because these aren\'t those kind of wars... they\'re guerilla wars and tanks would be a bit much.... Bin Laden thinks he can win by spreading fear to americans, which he has done very well considering the paranoia to fly.