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Non Gaming Discussions => Off-Topic => Topic started by: Falcon4 on March 18, 2002, 07:44:40 PM
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OH MY GOD I JUST FOUND THIS!!!!!!!
only 20k!!! this is literally insane i am gonna startt saving up right now.........
you have to check this baybe out.
http://allpar.com/neon/neon-srt-4.html
that car may revolutionsize the street racing world. well thats me, until i get my jet..
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not bad i like the interior a lot better
the outside goes up and down with me but for a neon it looks rather nice - well nicer then it did before thats for sure
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one question. did you even bother to read the specs?
like the little fact that it did the 0-60 in under 6.... thats quite nice, some aftermarket parts, supe it up a tad and itll be quite quick. body kit.... oh yeah!!! *begins to have an orgasm*
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heh yes indeed i did read the specs but what i like is the outside improvement as well
the neon really lacked that contender look that other cars had and now that it has the improvements on the outside and in it really makes for a nice package as you said
and its not very costly as well
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Hmmm, It has a 2.4 liter 4 cylinder with a turbo and only generates 205 hp? The Acura RSX-S has a 2 liter 4, and produces 200 hp without forced induction. Not to mention the Honda S 2000, which reaches 240 hp in a 2 liter 4 cylinder NA engine. Once again domestic carmakers are technologically behind the curve. :p
One nice thing about it is that you should be able bump up the output with a simple turbo/intercooler replacement. Of course then you have a Dodge Neon with a voided warranty. Not the situation I\'d like to be in with a Dodge Neon.
Save a few more pennies and buy a WRX instead.
BTW, just because they told me not to, here\'s a picture from the site:
EDIT- sorry guy but if they really did say you cant post pics of the car we could for real get in trouble for it... i know i know, the chances of them seeing this forum are about 1 in 10000000000000000000000 but still... ya know.
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day late and a dollar short falcon :D
http://www.psx2central.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=17486&highlight=neon
Im already saving for one too!!
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If you want to spend under or close to 20,000 just get a Mustang. Or just save up about 4,000 more and get a nice Subaru Impreza WRX (my favorite car...well not really...the STi is my favorite)
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or by yourself a cheap 280z, throw in a fresh 427, a new tranny, and laugh at all the four bangers.
doesn\'t the RX8 push out 250hp, out of a 2.0L?
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Originally posted by theomen
doesn\'t the RX8 push out 250hp, out of a 2.0L?
The RX8 is a rotary, so you can\'t compare it\'s displacement with piston engines. BTW, it\'s supposed to come in higher than 250 hp, right? I\'m too lazy to check.
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Originally posted by Fayded
If you want to spend under or close to 20,000 just get a Mustang. Or just save up about 4,000 more and get a nice Subaru Impreza WRX (my favorite car...well not really...the STi is my favorite)
for one...any mustang under 20 grand new sux ass. 2 it is much more fun beating up on V8 guys with a 4banger, they look soooo humiliated :D
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Originally posted by Coredweller
Hmmm, It has a 2.4 liter 4 cylinder with a turbo and only generates 205 hp? The Acura RSX-S has a 2 liter 4, and produces 200 hp without forced induction. Not to mention the Honda S 2000, which reaches 240 hp in a 2 liter 4 cylinder NA engine. Once again domestic carmakers are technologically behind the curve. :p
One nice thing about it is that you should be able bump up the output with a simple turbo/intercooler replacement. Of course then you have a Dodge Neon with a voided warranty. Not the situation I\'d like to be in with a Dodge Neon.
Only...that turbo is TINY..and motor is detuned to help lower some warranty repair costs.
As far as rsx and s2k\'s..honda\'s arent torqueless wonders for no reason :) The s2k pushes a high comp motor and like most other honda\'s have a high rev limit to help make up for a lack of torque.
The SRT will already have a FMIC, although I dont know how big it will be so it would prolly be a safe bet to assume a nice spearco will certainly help out. Like I said b4, the turbo on it stock is pretty small so a turbo upgrade will certainly be beneficial. The plus side to this tho, most things available for all current 2.0 and 2.4 neons should bolt right up to this motor as well. Which works out well for guys like me with a plethora of neon parts. Plus for guys without one already, they wont have to wait for the aftermarket to kick in.
The warranty issue isnt really a prob for ppl that mod cars, so thats basically a moot point. Plus neon parts are relatively cheap to replace compared with most other vehicles.
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Originally posted by theomen
or by yourself a cheap 280z, throw in a fresh 427, a new tranny, and laugh at all the four bangers.
now thats an idea as well..but it defeats the purpose of modding a 4banger...most of us do it b/c of the challenge involved. Like i said earlier in this thread, much more fun whooping on someone with a 4banger econo-box. The look in their eyes is worth a million bux :)
On a similar note..a buddy of mine has a mid-early 70\'s 240 or 280 with a blown 350 chevy motor...OMG is that car sick fast!!!!
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Originally posted by luckee
Only...that turbo is TINY..and motor is detuned to help lower some warranty repair costs.
As far as rsx and s2k\'s..honda\'s arent torqueless wonders for no reason :) The s2k pushes a high comp motor and like most other honda\'s have a high rev limit to help make up for a lack of torque.
The SRT will already have a FMIC, although I dont know how big it will be so it would prolly be a safe bet to assume a nice spearco will certainly help out. Like I said b4, the turbo on it stock is pretty small so a turbo upgrade will certainly be beneficial. The plus side to this tho, most things available for all current 2.0 and 2.4 neons should bolt right up to this motor as well. Which works out well for guys like me with a plethora of neon parts. Plus for guys without one already, they wont have to wait for the aftermarket to kick in.
The warranty issue isnt really a prob for ppl that mod cars, so thats basically a moot point. Plus neon parts are relatively cheap to replace compared with most other vehicles.
Exactly. its the value here. there already are parts out to supe it up, its light, and it dosent look to shabby (especially on the inside) for a neon. the rsx and the s2k are MUCH more expensive, and the S2k does not deliver the torgue at low revs. its a high revving or hich compression (as said before) engine. this neon has 220 ftlbs of torque ot a much lower rpm than the s2k. also the rsx has a slight problem that people complain about because it seems to double rev.... kinda funky.
Its kinda like that dodge razor.. god i cant wait to see what kids are gonna do to that thing.. $ 14k? am i correct? its all in the value.
heh they are going to make soo much money
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The WRX is only 27 more hp than the Neon SRT, *and* it weighs more. Is that really worth an extra $5,000?
If you ask me I say yes. :D I think we all know which one will last longer in the end and you\'ve heard all the accolades AWD has been getting (which the SRT doesn\'t have :(). Don\'t forget the STi is coming to US shores soon.
Don\'t get me wrong, I\'m extrememly happy with Dodge making an effort to compete with the industry leaders and stay under $20k, but domestics still have a ways to go for the sport compact crown.
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Originally posted by THX
The WRX is only 27 more hp than the Neon SRT, *and* it weighs more. Is that really worth an extra $5,000?
If you ask me I say yes. :D I think we all know which one will last longer in the end and you\'ve heard all the accolades AWD has been getting (which the SRT doesn\'t have :(). Don\'t forget the STi is coming to US shores soon.
Don\'t get me wrong, I\'m extrememly happy with Dodge making an effort to compete with the industry leaders and stay under $20k, but domestics still have a ways to go for the sport compact crown.
The WRX isnt even in the same class of cars as the neon and other compacts, bad comparo. The neon will be top of class once again..as it was in 94/95. Nothing will be able to touch it on the street/strip stock.
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Originally posted by THX
The WRX is only 27 more hp than the Neon SRT, *and* it weighs more. Is that really worth an extra $5,000?
If you ask me I say yes. :D I think we all know which one will last longer in the end and you\'ve heard all the accolades AWD has been getting (which the SRT doesn\'t have :(). Don\'t forget the STi is coming to US shores soon.
Don\'t get me wrong, I\'m extrememly happy with Dodge making an effort to compete with the industry leaders and stay under $20k, but domestics still have a ways to go for the sport compact crown.
true that , true that.
any of you guys have an y idea why nissan is so stupid and did not put the skyline in america? is it just emisions? or is there somthing more.? i hear they are putting the engine in the q body, taking out the turbo, and making it a 250 hp family sedan... is that right?
and when is the evo6 coming to america!!!!! im dying over here!
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Originally posted by Falcon4
true that , true that.
any of you guys have an y idea why nissan is so stupid and did not put the skyline in america? is it just emisions? or is there somthing more.? i hear they are putting the engine in the q body, taking out the turbo, and making it a 250 hp family sedan... is that right?
and when is the evo6 coming to america!!!!! im dying over here!
from what I hear, the R35 will be in the states, from what ive seen, looks like ass, compared to r33 and r34\'s.
The reason it was never brought to the states like alot of other cars. Emissions and safety standards werent up to par.
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Originally posted by luckee
from what I hear, the R35 will be in the states, from what ive seen, looks like ass, compared to r33 and r34\'s.
The reason it was never brought to the states like alot of other cars. Emissions and safety standards werent up to par.
hahha what a joke. there really is no point to get one, did you hear anything about it being put on the q body? or somthing?
it\'ll be to heavy to be fast, too bad. what a nice car.. but damn EPA screws up my dreams....
hmmm where did i put that $90K, ill just import one.
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Just save up till 2003 and get the 2003 Dodge Viper GTS its awsome!
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Heres a picture of a 2002 dodge viper, the 2 are similar but IMO 2003 dodge viper is a nicer car.
(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dodge.com%2Fautoshow%2Fnews_events%2Fviper%2Fimg%2Fnews_promo_viper_reveal.gif&hash=e7cc070ceab9d707979010427aece91fb812825c)
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Strange resemlance to the new age Impreza WRX.
But it\'s still a front wheel drive. Can you say "torque steer" and "understeer" kids? I knew you could! :D
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That car is hidieous. It screams rice. I would take my 2001 Volkswagon Jetta GLX over a suped up Neon anyday. Look at that idiotic wing on the back! The car is FWD... are they trying to force the front wheels OFF the ground?
The interior does look nice with the brushed aluminum pedals and stuff, but otherwise its just a tacky Neon. I don\'t care if it could leave the earths atmosphere and it was so fast it could drive across water.
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US version of the Skyline = Infinity G35
To put it plainly Japan has a lower emmisions standard than the US because they are on an island and everything gets blown away rather than hovering above populated cities or being trapped by mountains. I don\'t think this justifies allowing more pollutants, the emmions will end up somewhere.
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Originally posted by GigaShadow
That car is hidieous. It screams rice. I would take my 2001 Volkswagon Jetta GLX over a suped up Neon anyday. Look at that idiotic wing on the back! The car is FWD... are they trying to force the front wheels OFF the ground?
The interior does look nice with the brushed aluminum pedals and stuff, but otherwise its just a tacky Neon. I don\'t care if it could leave the earths atmosphere and it was so fast it could drive across water.
PLease dont start this rear wing thing on FWD cars again....
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Originally posted by Coredweller
BTW, just because they told me not to, here\'s a picture from the site:
EDIT- sorry guy but if they really did say you cant post pics of the car we could for real get in trouble for it... i know i know, the chances of them seeing this forum are about 1 in 10000000000000000000000 but still... ya know.
That "allpar.com" site was asking people not to post their images to protect their bandwidth not for legal reasons. Right or wrong, I find those kinds of requests ULTRALAME. If you\'ve got content you want people to see, and you post it on a webserver, you should back it up with a little investment in bandwidth, or else remove it.
I\'ll go along with your decision to remove the link, but we should at least have one picture of the car in this thread. Here\'s one from a different source:
(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.car-truck.com%2Fimage%2Fchryed%2Fbuzz%2Fyelnsrt4.jpg&hash=f440619d7ba33a8b16cea0261f13ab08ccd22365)
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oh hey man i thought it was for legal reasons...
by all means show all the pictures you want!
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Originally posted by luckee
PLease dont start this rear wing thing on FWD cars again....
I don\'t care, that car is tacky. All it is missing is the huge japanese text graphic on the back window.
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Originally posted by GigaShadow
I don\'t care, that car is tacky. All it is missing is the huge japanese text graphic on the back window.
WHy don\'t you elaborate instead of just spewing it sux like a 5 yr. old. You said in a previous post that it screams rice, you obviously do not know the definition of rice. in short.."the look or display of speed or products which is lacking" That car is not advertising any stickers...and it backs up its look..so by definition it isnt ricey. That is a term ppl use wayyyy to often and wayyy to loosely.
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I have always disliked the oval headlights of the Neon; I think they were included to make the car look "cute" back when it was nothing more than another compact economy car. Now that they\'ve added the new body panels, I think they\'re taking it in the wrong direction. The grille is obviously meant to remind you of the Viper, but I didn\'t like it on the Viper either. It looks like the moulding on a toaster or something. The hood scoop is really corny if it is indeed fake. It looks to me like it\'s too small to server any real purpose, so I\'m guessing it\'s fake.
If I were considering this car, I\'d save $5,000 more and buy a WRX instead.
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Originally posted by luckee
WHy don\'t you elaborate instead of just spewing it sux like a 5 yr. old. You said in a previous post that it screams rice, you obviously do not know the definition of rice. in short.."the look or display of speed or products which is lacking" That car is not advertising any stickers...and it backs up its look..so by definition it isnt ricey. That is a term ppl use wayyyy to often and wayyy to loosely.
First of all I am entitled to my opinion. Secondly, that car is tacky, the color for one... not that yellow is a bad color, but on a Neon?
Oh yeah its a Neon, that says it all. Finally, that wing. Its not the worst I have seen, but it is absolutely pointless. A smaller one would have done the job.
Whomever posted that they wanted to save up to buy the car is a fool. You can get a much better car, not as fast but who cares?, for that price and not be seen driving a vehicle whose main advertising slogan was a :) HI!
Basically it was a waste of money building that car, there are other cars they could have chosen, but they didn\'t.
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Screw all of you, I think it looks nice. Oh and Gigashadow, lay off the mindless bashing of it for no reason. Yes its an american car that is similar to Japanese cars. Who cares
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It\'s a nice car spec wise, but I think the look hurts it. Oh well people have different opinions of what looks nice and what doesn\'t.
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Originally posted by GigaShadow
First of all I am entitled to my opinion. Secondly, that car is tacky, the color for one... not that yellow is a bad color, but on a Neon?
Oh yeah its a Neon, that says it all. Finally, that wing. Its not the worst I have seen, but it is absolutely pointless. A smaller one would have done the job.
Whomever posted that they wanted to save up to buy the car is a fool. You can get a much better car, not as fast but who cares?, for that price and not be seen driving a vehicle whose main advertising slogan was a :) HI!
Basically it was a waste of money building that car, there are other cars they could have chosen, but they didn\'t.
I guess yer illiterate, b/c no one said you werent entitled to your opinion, I asked you to elaborate instead of crying it sux, it sux, it sux like a 5 yr. old.
BTW, I\'m the one that said Im saving now to buy one. SO why exactly am I a fool?
Yellow isnt the only color it\'s available in. The wing on it isnt big at all. Anything else you want me to shoot down?
"You can get a much better car, not as fast but who cares?, "
for under 20k new, yea there are a few better built cars out there, but like you said, arent as fast. Thats precisily the point, this car will be fast out of box....spend one grand I have 13 sec car. spend 3k. I have a 1/4 monster...autox carver, and roadrace ready. Fits me just fine. So why exactly am I a fool again for wanting to buy something that suits me just fine? O yea..my profession.. high HP neons and DSM\'s.
Anything else you wanna spew out and have corrected?
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Luckee: I think what you\'re seeing in this thread is a microcosm of the reactions you\'re going to get with this car on the street, at the gas station, in the driveway, etc. There will always be people who will look down on a Neon no matter what the true specs and capabilities are. Just like me: I can\'t help seeing it as a dressed up economy car. That means you\'ll always need to be proving yourself with street races just to get the tiniest amount of respect. I myself would prefer to own a car that already carries a little respect with the import compact car crowd.
If you already have a lot of mechanical experience with the Neon, then that\'s probably a valid reason to use this model as a starting point. However you\'re probably already well aware of people\'s preconceived notions about Neons, and you know what you\'re getting yourself into. If you prefer the Neon just to make some point about the viability of domestic cars, then I think you\'re on the wrong course. I would prefer to use the Ford Focus SVT as a project car. At least the Focus has some Rally history behind it, and there are just as many (if not more) aftermarket parts available. It doesn\'t have quite as much power, but it\'s CHEAPER, and I think it looks a lot nicer.
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I know how it goes core.. I just hate ignorance in any form. Guess everyone wants to learn the hard way :)