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Title: X-box going to reach 0 units/week in Japan
Post by: Bossieman on April 01, 2002, 12:27:31 AM
Hardware:
Week 1___123,292
Week 2____37,147
Week 3____10,930
Week 4_____7,924
Week 5_____5,200
Total_____185,131

Software:
Week 1___158,129
Week 2____41,867
Week 3_____7,625
Week 4_____9,747
Week 5_____9,436
Total_____226,804

Console/Game tie-ratio = 1.2

Source : teamxbox

Note: All software totals were compiled from Dengeki Online\'s "Top 50 Sales" chart. Weeks 1-4 of the hardware sales were taken from Famitsu\'s "Weekly Hardware Sales." The hardware sales for week 5 was reported by Media Create.

Comments?
Title: X-box going to reach 0 units/week in Japan
Post by: Metal_Gear_Ray on April 01, 2002, 12:31:42 AM
its not looking too good for xbox, it bombed in europe and asia

Well I think that sega was dumb to support xbox, they could have tripled their sales easily by supporting ps2 more.
Title: X-box going to reach 0 units/week in Japan
Post by: IronFist on April 01, 2002, 01:40:14 AM
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Well I think that sega was dumb to support xbox, they could have tripled their sales easily by supporting ps2 more.

I\'m sure they were just trying to build up the Xbox\'s userbase so when Shenmue 3 and other high profile Sega games are released they will be a huge hit.  I think Shenmue 3 is going to cost a fortune to make (if they are going to use the HDD to save every little detail like the Xboys have been claiming), so Sega needs the Xbox to have a huge userbase in order to break even.  It\'s not looking good so far for Sega.
Title: X-box going to reach 0 units/week in Japan
Post by: ooseven on April 01, 2002, 01:41:42 AM
damn it  Bossieman threads like this will just gets me in trouble with the X Box owning/loving Community.

and then i\'ll be accused of picking on A minority. ;)
Title: X-box going to reach 0 units/week in Japan
Post by: RichG on April 01, 2002, 02:19:59 AM
Well I don\'t want to see it flop. I wouldn\'t want to see any console flop it just means less gaming in the long run!

The question is can X-Box survive without the Japan market? I mean it hasn\'t really flopped all that much in Europe.

I hope it doesn\'t flop my brother who got one previously got the Sega Saturn - wasted a lot of money in the long run with it dying. He risked getting the X-Box over the PS2 with the risk it might flop. I just hope this doesn\'t happen.
Title: X-box going to reach 0 units/week in Japan
Post by: mm on April 01, 2002, 03:11:42 AM
xbox = 2002 version of 3DO

said it repeatedly

i dont want to see it fail tho
i\'d like it to die a VERY slow death and cost bill loads of cash
Title: X-box going to reach 0 units/week in Japan
Post by: Rick on April 01, 2002, 03:42:25 AM
Has anyone got any sales figures for the UK/europe?
Title: X-box going to reach 0 units/week in Japan
Post by: Bobs_Hardware on April 01, 2002, 05:49:12 AM
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Originally posted by RichG
Well I don\'t want to see it flop. I wouldn\'t want to see any console flop it just means less gaming in the long run!


why?  i would think it means the opposite.. why have games spread across 3 consoles, when it could be spread on 1 - 2 consoles and have a handheld market??  it would be much more benificial ecenomically for consumers, developers.. hell, everyone?  pfft

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The question is can X-Box survive without the Japan market? I mean it hasn\'t really flopped all that much in Europe.


wha??  its a complete failure in Europe!  101,000 units sold, 80% on the first day??  c\'mon
Title: X-box going to reach 0 units/week in Japan
Post by: GmanJoe on April 01, 2002, 06:27:19 AM
Bah! I want to see it fail. And the fact that MS is losing money on it makes my day sunny...even when its raining! :D
Title: X-box going to reach 0 units/week in Japan
Post by: RamonGTP on April 01, 2002, 10:48:09 AM
Why would anyone WANT to see it fail? I\'m a PS2 fan myself, but whenever there is competition between rival company\'s, it almost ALWAYS benifits the consumers (peuple like US) Look at it this way... They XBOX is tons easier to develop games for than the PS2 right? Well, if the PS2 devs don\'t have a console to compete with, they don\'t have as much of an insentive to take the time to make a game that really takes advantage of the PS2, if the PS2 was the only console available, we\'d be forced to live with whatever games were available. With the intro of the XBOX, and GameCube for that matter, the PS2 devs HAVE to make better games to stay on top. Hence, they\'re the ones that are forced to make better games, instead of us being forced to play mediocre ones. Just my 2 cents.

-Ramon
Title: X-box going to reach 0 units/week in Japan
Post by: mm on April 01, 2002, 11:03:15 AM
if yer theory was true

we would still be playing tetris on our gameboys
Title: X-box going to reach 0 units/week in Japan
Post by: GmanJoe on April 01, 2002, 11:04:44 AM
And after it fails, I want to smack Bill Gates with a pie! ;)

:laughing: TAKE THAT, BIZATCH! :laughing:

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Title: X-box going to reach 0 units/week in Japan
Post by: RamonGTP on April 01, 2002, 11:22:51 AM
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Originally posted by mm
if yer theory was true

we would still be playing tetris on our gameboys


How do you figure that?
Title: X-box going to reach 0 units/week in Japan
Post by: mm on April 01, 2002, 11:35:14 AM
the gameboy [original, color, and advance] never had competition

why push for newer and better games?
Title: X-box going to reach 0 units/week in Japan
Post by: RamonGTP on April 01, 2002, 02:39:33 PM
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Originally posted by mm
the gameboy [original, color, and advance] never had competition

why push for newer and better games?


C\'mon now... to say games will stay the same forever is stupid... But if gameboy DID have some serious competition, it would have probebly come along further than it has right now.

-Ramon
Title: X-box going to reach 0 units/week in Japan
Post by: MAKAVELIUK on April 01, 2002, 03:01:34 PM
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Originally posted by GmanJoe


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:laughing:
Title: X-box going to reach 0 units/week in Japan
Post by: QuDDus on April 01, 2002, 03:38:07 PM
Why are some of you so jealous of bill gates? I mean what has he really done to you. He is a business man just like everyone else. And second xbox won\'t hurt bill one bit. Because xbox is from microsoft which is worth about 450billion dollars no silly xbox could ever hurt them.

Sure it\'s not selling like hot cakes. But what system is selling but ps2. Gamecube sure is not. I wanna see xbox be huge. It\'s a great system ppl need to just give it a freaking chance and stop being so negative it\'s only gaming.

Jeesh some ppl treat ps2 like it is something so precious. Anyone can go into a store and buy a ps2. It\'s only gaming ppl we should wanna see all the consoles succeed. But it was a given xbox would flop in japan. It\'s going to take something major for it to break into japan.

I think Ms should have offered the xbox for much less in japan only because it needs to break into the japanese market so bad. But if xbox could sell 10million units U.S. it would be ok. I don\'t know what it is the system is great. Ppl should just give it a chance. It was sad to see this happen to dreamcast but now xbox.
Title: X-box going to reach 0 units/week in Japan
Post by: Terry Bogard on April 01, 2002, 03:42:24 PM
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Originally posted by QuDDus


There is a Billion to 1 chance of Xbox even selling 10 million in the US, wait, let me change that into raw numbers or guesstimates. It\'ll never happen.   MS was expecting Xbox to downright out sell PS2 im sure, and so far, thats not even close to reality.   I just wish MS would stop speaking out of their ass, with calling the japanese launch a sucess(it was a big ass failure) and the Europe launch(do i smell another failure?)  Oh well, 10 million in the US, is more then likely NOT going to happen for quite awhile, if at all.
Title: X-box going to reach 0 units/week in Japan
Post by: QuDDus on April 01, 2002, 03:53:08 PM
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Originally posted by Terry Bogard
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Originally posted by QuDDus


There is a Billion to 1 chance of Xbox even selling 10 million in the US, wait, let me change that into raw numbers or guesstimates. It\'ll never happen.   MS was expecting Xbox to downright out sell PS2 im sure, and so far, thats not even close to reality.   I just wish MS would stop speaking out of their ass, with calling the japanese launch a sucess(it was a big ass failure) and the Europe launch(do i smell another failure?)  Oh well, 10 million in the US, is more then likely NOT going to happen for quite awhile, if at all. [/B]



Oh I know it will probally never happen. I was just throwing that out that out in the opening. But I know it will probally never happen.
Title: X-box going to reach 0 units/week in Japan
Post by: Terry Bogard on April 01, 2002, 03:56:07 PM
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Originally posted by QuDDus



Oh I know it will probally never happen. I was just throwing that out that out in the opening. But I know it will probally never happen.



Okay man, I was hoping you weren\'t talking out of your ass like MOST of the other Xbox fans. Im not going to call you a zealot, because, you aren\'t, well, not like our buddy Zera, who got banned because of his lameness, and saying Xbox has no frame rate problems, blah, blah.
Title: X-box going to reach 0 units/week in Japan
Post by: mm on April 01, 2002, 04:28:06 PM
quddus, yer missing the point

do you see us claiming the PS2 is superior to the xbox?

no, all we do is point and laugh at xbox\'s shortcomings, and there\'s plenty of them
Title: X-box going to reach 0 units/week in Japan
Post by: fastson on April 01, 2002, 07:34:33 PM
If MS cant pull the Xbox out of the deadly spin soon.. I see developers leaving it soon enough.
Title: X-box going to reach 0 units/week in Japan
Post by: Riku on April 01, 2002, 08:14:43 PM
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Originally posted by Terry Bogard
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Originally posted by QuDDus


There is a Billion to 1 chance of Xbox even selling 10 million in the US, wait, let me change that into raw numbers or guesstimates. It\'ll never happen.


Good to know we have a fortune teller in the forums...I have much to ask you!!

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MS was expecting Xbox to downright out sell PS2 im sure, and so far, thats not even close to reality.


And only in 5 months time!?!?!?  Since you said "im sure" there must be some truth to it...

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I just wish MS would stop speaking out of their ass, with calling the japanese launch a sucess(it was a big ass failure) and the Europe launch(do i smell another failure?)


For going up against a goliath like PS2, it was expected.  

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 Oh well, 10 million in the US, is more then likely NOT going to happen for quite awhile, if at all.


It looks here as if you are doubting your fortune telling abilities...maybe I\'ll hold off on those questions ;)
Title: X-box going to reach 0 units/week in Japan
Post by: Riku on April 01, 2002, 08:18:02 PM
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Originally posted by mm


no, all we do is point and laugh at xbox\'s shortcomings, and there\'s plenty of them


In which way?
Title: X-box going to reach 0 units/week in Japan
Post by: mm on April 02, 2002, 03:04:07 AM
rikku, you can end yer xbox crusade at any time, its tired
Title: X-box going to reach 0 units/week in Japan
Post by: Riku on April 02, 2002, 08:37:38 AM
You said you like to point and laugh...I just wanna know what\'s worth laughing at??

This is the console debating forums...just trying to make it interesting.
Title: X-box going to reach 0 units/week in Japan
Post by: Bobs_Hardware on April 02, 2002, 08:47:50 AM
the failure of a console he wanted to see fail so badly  :)

isnt it grand?
Title: X-box going to reach 0 units/week in Japan
Post by: Riku on April 02, 2002, 08:56:53 AM
It hasn\'t failed...yet.

And I would think it a little early to be calling any shots...the GC in Japan is a good example of the wait and see approach...
Title: X-box going to reach 0 units/week in Japan
Post by: Chrono on April 02, 2002, 09:49:17 AM
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And I would think it a little early to be calling any shots...the GC in Japan is a good example of the wait and see approach...


See, the NGC is not your normal console breed
a game like Super Smash Brothers can litterly sell 300k plus consoles by itself..
Nintendo, unlike MS, has software that sells systems
Title: X-box going to reach 0 units/week in Japan
Post by: Sublimesjg on April 02, 2002, 10:19:18 AM
yea Nintendo has lots of appeal in Japan while Xbox hasnt gotten there selves established yet

hopefully their dept there will figure out something but as of now its not looking so great
Title: X-box going to reach 0 units/week in Japan
Post by: Riku on April 02, 2002, 10:23:48 AM
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yea Nintendo has lots of appeal in Japan


And yet it had an underwhelming launch due to lack of software...once the games start showing up, people tend to notice.

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See, the NGC is not your normal console breed
a game like Super Smash Brothers can litterly sell 300k plus consoles by itself..
Nintendo, unlike MS, has software that sells systems


MS might be laying the same kind of hope of titles such as Panzer Dragoon, Project Ego, Shenmue II, etc.  

Right now, there is not much to cater to a japanese audience.
Title: X-box going to reach 0 units/week in Japan
Post by: fastson on April 02, 2002, 10:27:00 AM
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And yet it had an underwhelming launch due to lack of software...once the games start showing up, people tend to notice.


Games like?
Title: X-box going to reach 0 units/week in Japan
Post by: Riku on April 02, 2002, 10:30:31 AM
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Originally posted by fastson


Games like?


Super Smash Bros. spiked the sales of GC for a while.  Resident Evil, Star Fox, Mario Sunshine, Metroid, Zelda, etc. will have the same effect...
Title: X-box going to reach 0 units/week in Japan
Post by: mm on April 02, 2002, 10:32:27 AM
i dont want to see xbox fail, ive stated that repeatedly
i have a few hundered invested in one remember?

i just want to see it finish in a SLOW 3rd place and cost billy ZILLIONS of dollars
Title: X-box going to reach 0 units/week in Japan
Post by: Riku on April 02, 2002, 10:34:08 AM
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Originally posted by mm
i dont want to see xbox fail, ive stated that repeatedly
i have a few hundered invested in one remember?

i just want to see it finish in a SLOW 3rd place and cost billy ZILLIONS of dollars


Then there would be a lack of software down the road, that would be a bad investment...
Title: X-box going to reach 0 units/week in Japan
Post by: Bossieman on April 02, 2002, 10:36:06 AM
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Originally posted by mm
i dont want to see xbox fail, ive stated that repeatedly

i just want to see it finish in a SLOW 3rd place and cost billy ZILLIONS of dollars


I know exactly what you mean..........
Title: X-box going to reach 0 units/week in Japan
Post by: GmanJoe on April 02, 2002, 11:48:18 AM
I think we should make a betting pool, $10 each person per month - whoever can smack a pie in Bill Gates\' face wins the prize money plus a free trip to kick Ashford\'s bare butt! :D
Title: X-box going to reach 0 units/week in Japan
Post by: Ryu on April 02, 2002, 12:56:12 PM
Xbox is doing bad.  Yes, it is.  We get the point.  Why reiterate it so when the same people come forward with the same tired arguements over and over and over again?