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Title: Is the XBox going to flop?
Post by: RichG on April 03, 2002, 03:13:42 AM
Is it heading the same way as the Sega Saturn and Sega Dreamcast?

Some might say yes afterall when the Dreamcast was launched the PS1 and even the n64 was outselling it. Look where it ended up.

Microsoft has said that they aren\'t going to try and catch up with Sony\'s sales. Prehaps if they ignored Sony\'s sales and providing the sales of the X-Box is enough to make the company profit prehaps they won\'t kill off the console and just continue with the console reguardless of how many units of the PS2 are being sold a week.

Also prehaps a price reduction will cause X-Box sales to rocket.

Then again prehaps theres nothing they can do and the console is going to be dead within a year?

What do you guys think.

Discuss.
Title: Is the XBox going to flop?
Post by: mm on April 03, 2002, 03:30:20 AM
it already has flopped, but it wont dissapear.   bill gates has more money than god

he\'ll just keep shoveling it into the xbox furnace

although a price drop is the worse thing they could do
sega gave the DC away for free, and look where that got them

although, i dont think the console world would be at a loss if m$ kept its evil ways to the PC industry.

there was never  a need for the xbox, well of course there was a need for bill to make even more money, but thats not happening any time soon

all in all, im just glad to see bill suffer for once
he probably wishes he could buy sony and feed his megalomaniacal behaviour
Title: Is the XBox going to flop?
Post by: Mr. Kennedy on April 03, 2002, 04:19:15 AM
I think M$ overestimated their chances, then again, I think Big N knew they would have trouble.

You can\'t live on a console with one great game, M$ has to expand their horizons cause their sales sux0r!
Title: Is the XBox going to flop?
Post by: Chrono on April 03, 2002, 04:23:53 AM
I think its too late, without any system sellers in the next several months.. Smaller 3rd parties from japan and europe will begin to leave the system.

USA developers and MS themselves may continue to support it, for how long I don\'t know..
It really does look like the DC all over again, it just may stick around with a tiny hardcore PC/American userbase of FPS and boobloving users.
Title: Is the XBox going to flop?
Post by: mm on April 03, 2002, 04:49:03 AM
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boobloving users


/me slowly raises hand, but for an entirely different reason
Title: Is the XBox going to flop?
Post by: cloud345 on April 03, 2002, 04:51:04 AM
As mm said.. it has already flopped but wont dissapear. MS has to much money for any of their products to dissapear.
Title: Is the XBox going to flop?
Post by: Chrono on April 03, 2002, 04:55:47 AM
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MS has to much money for any of their products to dissapear.


That does not mean everything,
thats one of the biggest mythes this generation

MSN, failed in a sense
it was losing too much money from the rebates for service that they had to cancel the plan

Ultimate TV failed, they also quit supporting it also

WinME in a way failed, it was much lower in sales then previous MS software.

Its not logical for a company to continue to support a lost cause and lose billions of dollars, even if your MS.
Stock holders do not apreaciate that.
Title: Is the XBox going to flop?
Post by: mm on April 03, 2002, 07:54:39 AM
sweet! perhaps the xbox WILL become the 2002 version of the 3DO.  then m$ can quit wasting our time.

/me crosses fingers
Title: Is the XBox going to flop?
Post by: fastson on April 03, 2002, 08:20:52 AM
Wait, wait.. If Xbox becomes 3D0 2k2.. Will MS start making Army Men games? Say it aint soo.. :eek:
Title: Is the XBox going to flop?
Post by: RichG on April 03, 2002, 08:27:48 AM
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Originally posted by mm
sweet! perhaps the xbox WILL become the 2002 version of the 3DO.  then m$ can quit wasting our time.

/me crosses fingers


Seriously your MS bashing is crap.

Why do you want the console to fail? I mean everyone who bought one will have wasted their money? Not only that but a successful console means more gaming in the long run? Anyway don\'t you yourself have an X-Box?

If anyone should fail it should be Sony as a company. Prehaps they aren\'t as disliked as Bill Gates but least he managed to make consoles availible to punters which work - no scratching cds, weird noises and games not loading problems.

On a side note did you get the PM about my avatar. :D
Title: Is the XBox going to flop?
Post by: Troglodyte on April 03, 2002, 08:35:29 AM
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Originally posted by RichG


If anyone should fail it should be Sony as a company. Prehaps they aren\'t as disliked as Bill Gates but least he managed to make consoles availible to punters which work - no scratching cds, weird noises and games not loading problems.




Yeah, my friend\'s XBOX hasn\'t given him any toruble. . . it collects dust just fine.

No, serously, he got it for Christmas, got a few games, and stopped playing it sometime after January.  It\'s been collecting dust ever since.

Anyways, my PS2 hasn\'t given me any trouble, and I play it at least 2-3 hours a day.

*knock on wood!*
Title: Is the XBox going to flop?
Post by: GmanJoe on April 03, 2002, 09:01:18 AM
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Originally posted by RichG


Seriously your MS bashing is crap.

Why do you want the console to fail? I mean everyone who bought one will have wasted their money? Not only that but a successful console means more gaming in the long run? Anyway don\'t you yourself have an X-Box?

If anyone should fail it should be Sony as a company. Prehaps they aren\'t as disliked as Bill Gates but least he managed to make consoles availible to punters which work - no scratching cds, weird noises and games not loading problems.

On a side note did you get the PM about my avatar. :D


Excuse me but the Xbox is known to scratch CDs and lock up, bubba. And after Xbox fails, I want to smack him with a cream pie and then steal his lunch money.

Linux rules. PS2 rules.

And Bill Gates has a small penis.
Title: Is the XBox going to flop?
Post by: seven on April 03, 2002, 09:20:25 AM
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Why do you want the console to fail? I mean everyone who bought one will have wasted their money? Not only that but a successful console means more gaming in the long run? Anyway don\'t you yourself have an X-Box?


More gaming? Hardly. Maybe for those who purchased an Xbox, but I won\'t be counting myself to those so I don\'t give a damn if it succeeds or not. Actually, if you asked me - I\'d be more happy having it just they whey it was a year ago: PS2, Dreamcast and a third competitor GameCube. The only positive thing I see about Xbox is that a lot of PC developers have the chance to develop games for console easily. But PS2 has it\'s fair share already so forget about it.

And about Gates monney. I don\'t think any company can affoard to throw monney like that out of the window. Not Microsoft or Sony. If it won\'t be worth it, they won\'t invest in it. But since this and especially next generation of consoles will be very important to Microsofts future - I think Microsoft will try to keep Xbox alive. I just wonder how they\'ll do it and hope it won\'t have big influence on the happy gamers without a Xbox.
Title: Is the XBox going to flop?
Post by: Tom on April 03, 2002, 09:26:26 AM
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If anyone should fail it should be Sony as a company. Prehaps they aren\'t as disliked as Bill Gates but least he managed to make consoles availible to punters which work - no scratching cds, weird noises and games not loading problems.


My cousins\' X-Box has some extremely bad problems. First of all, it makes me sick to my stomach when I play. Second, it would seem that whenever a quality game is made for it, it blows up into dust , meaning there are no good games out there. Wait, whaddya mean that\'s not a system problem...?:D
Title: Is the XBox going to flop?
Post by: Chrono on April 03, 2002, 09:34:57 AM
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If anyone should fail it should be Sony as a company.


yeah, want the company that brings innnovation to fail..
A company that is partering with Toshiba and IBM to develop new chips for the ps3, instead of taking a Pentium and calling it faster.
So we can be stuck with a PC in a Box with a Innovative HDD, BB adaptor and Pentium chip..
Title: Is the XBox going to flop?
Post by: Jon27 on April 03, 2002, 09:47:29 AM
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Originally posted by GmanJoe


Excuse me but the Xbox is known to scratch CDs and lock up, bubba. And after Xbox fails, I want to smack him with a cream pie and then steal his lunch money.

Linux rules. PS2 rules.

And Bill Gates has a small penis.


xbox will not fail, and will be the greatest system hands down come summer, you guys cant see it yet, cause all you think the xbox has right now is halo, but in the summer when all the greats come out you guys will be even more angry then normal. xbox is already starting to win, it used to be ps2 fanboys, would lie about ps2 having better graphics, now they admit xbox has better graphics and just lie about xbox lacking in game play

and buy they way, quit yanking your small penis over the animated ffx girls you sick freak
Title: Is the XBox going to flop?
Post by: Chrono on April 03, 2002, 10:13:40 AM
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xbox will not fail, and will be the greatest system hands down come summer, you guys cant see it yet, cause all you think the xbox has right now is halo, but in the summer when all the greats come out you guys will be even more angry then normal.


umm.. like what titles this summer?
lol

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xbox is already starting to win

If win means selling less then the week before, then yes your right.
1:2 ratio in the USA and a 1:10 ratio in Japan with the ps2, certainly looks like the xbox is "winning"
it must be all those AAA titles, all one of them thats helping it sell so well

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it used to be ps2 fanboys, would lie about ps2 having better graphics, now they admit xbox has better graphics and just lie about xbox lacking in game play


another graphics whore
Title: Is the XBox going to flop?
Post by: mm on April 03, 2002, 10:34:06 AM
wtf is with newbs coming here and praising the xbox

xbox CAN never even hope to compete with  PS2
its BEST option is 2nd place, and even then, thats a stretch

oh, how i wish damned IGN forums would never have gone insider only

jon27 = zealot
Title: Is the XBox going to flop?
Post by: ooseven on April 03, 2002, 11:55:02 AM
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Originally posted by mm
wtf is with newbs coming here and praising the xbox

xbox CAN never even hope to compete with  PS2
its BEST option is 2nd place, and even then, thats a stretch

oh, how i wish damned IGN forums would never have gone insider only

jon27 = zealot


hey mm baby

i can put on a Newbie battle dress Uniform for ya if you want and then we can play

"bad Newbie ?"

or how about

"bash the newbie ?"
Title: Is the XBox going to flop?
Post by: Ginko on April 03, 2002, 01:38:15 PM
PS2 Central Forums
Seriously, some of these threads are out of control...

I\'m glad someone is stepping in and trying to clean up a bit (Ryu).

Jon27, please don\'t post crap like that.  

Chrono, please don\'t post.;)

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Excuse me but the Xbox is known to scratch CDs and lock up, bubba.


It was only in the Japan launch.  My Xbox games are flawless and it hasn\'t locked up...yet.  

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And after Xbox fails, I want to smack him with a cream pie and then steal his lunch money.


You are seriously wearing out that joke...that was like over a month ago.
Title: Is the XBox going to flop?
Post by: RichG on April 03, 2002, 01:45:59 PM
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Excuse me but the Xbox is known to scratch CDs and lock up, bubba. And after Xbox fails, I want to smack him with a cream pie and then steal his lunch money.

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Well not what i\'ve heard it hasn\'t. Also even if it does it certainly ain\'t as bad as the PS2!

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Originally posted by seven


More gaming? Hardly. Maybe for those who purchased an Xbox, but I won\'t be counting myself to those so I don\'t give a damn if it succeeds or not.


You never know you could pick one up when they become cheaper!
Title: Is the XBox going to flop?
Post by: GmanJoe on April 03, 2002, 02:06:37 PM
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Originally posted by Ginko


You are seriously wearing out that joke...that was like over a month ago.


Who said I was joking? Who? I was serious! You wanna do it? I\'ll pay you.
Title: Is the XBox going to flop?
Post by: KillaX on April 03, 2002, 06:54:40 PM
the X-box will go the way of the Atari Jaguar.....but the graphics are better on the x-box tho.......Atari didnt have the big $$$$ like MS does.




:hat:ScottyJ:hat:
Title: Is the XBox going to flop?
Post by: mm on April 03, 2002, 07:09:05 PM
yeah, i dont think anyone is really contesting that the graphics on the xbox are a little better than the PS2.

its almost 3 years newer, thats to be expected

xbox better start digging in its heels to stop the landslide, thats all i got to say
Title: Is the XBox going to flop?
Post by: Ryu on April 03, 2002, 07:12:34 PM
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