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Title: Question for you guys:Why all this hate?
Post by: Terry Bogard on April 03, 2002, 07:20:32 AM
Okay,  


after reading Ryu\'s thread about Zero Tolerance, I thought I would see what the deal was.



As some people would say, I\'m a former Xbox hater, yes, i bashed the console on an everyday basis back when it was announced. I changed my tune after i saw a few games in motion. I don\'t really hate MS for entering the console industry, I just think that they over estimated themselves, by thinking that Xbox is/was the best thing since sliced bread. I liked mine when I first got it.  But lately the games have been crap, according to the reviews, so I haven\'t really tried out any of the new ones due to that.    I bought a PSX about 3 years ago, and I was happy with that,  so, i stuck by my PSX until PS2 came out, and went on to purchuse that.  I can\'t say I\'ve been let down by PS2 at all, where-area\'s Xbox just dissapoints me, I mean, everyone praises Halo. Its a great game, but the frame rate problems gave me headaches everynight(I am not joking.)  But anyways, whats with all the hate against Sony, MS, or Nintendo.



Post your LOGICAL reasonings, not just mindless bickering please.   I don\'t want to see a thread go to hell.
Title: Question for you guys:Why all this hate?
Post by: mm on April 03, 2002, 07:53:28 AM
hate?

i thought we were just voicing our opinions

m$ sux0rs btw  :)
Title: Question for you guys:Why all this hate?
Post by: Bobs_Hardware on April 03, 2002, 08:09:04 AM
this coming from you..?  need we post links to some of your posts?  your not the first person to post a thread like this, but you are the last person i would expect to..
Title: Question for you guys:Why all this hate?
Post by: RichG on April 03, 2002, 08:24:05 AM
Well I happen to agree! I don\'t know why theres people who hate the X-Box or people who hate the PS2 etc, I put it down to fanboyism (if such a word exists).
Title: Question for you guys:Why all this hate?
Post by: Jon27 on April 03, 2002, 09:51:50 AM
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Originally posted by Bobs_Hardware
this coming from you..?  need we post links to some of your posts?  your not the first person to post a thread like this, but you are the last person i would expect to..


did you read this guys post, he admited to hateing the box, until he decided not to be a bser anymore
Title: Question for you guys:Why all this hate?
Post by: Heretic on April 03, 2002, 10:25:41 AM
People hate MS, not so much xbox. If you have to ask why you\'re out of touch.

The hate for Sony goes with being #1. Taking heat for either knocking off Sega or dethroning Nintendo. Not living up to the hype is just an excuse as far as I can tell. Faulty products? I won\'t argue with anyone who says so but I, and a few million other people, can\'t relate.

Nintendo is the prince of gaming and also a spoiled brat. Seen as squeezing every penny it can from 3rd parties and consumers alike simply because they can. Being penny wise and pound foolish cost them the crown.

The true haters just don\'t last around here, which is why I think this zero tolerance policy is a joke. We didn\'t need it when the PS2 was getting bashed day after day and we don\'t need it now.

I share Bobs_H surprise at Terry asking this question, Terry being one of the ones accussed of bashing xbox (last week Jon27, not last year)
Title: Question for you guys:Why all this hate?
Post by: Ashford on April 03, 2002, 10:31:15 AM
I\'ll just add 2 cents in...

I haven\'t been too impressed with any of the 3 consoles, other than DOA 3, graphically, of course...

Games?

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

Sorry, didn\'t get into Halo or Star Wars or (insert big title here)...
Title: Question for you guys:Why all this hate?
Post by: Terry Bogard on April 03, 2002, 10:37:26 AM
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Originally posted by Bobs_Hardware
this coming from you..?  need we post links to some of your posts?  your not the first person to post a thread like this, but you are the last person i would expect to..



Ugh...wtf is your prob, I admitted my past as a hater, and how i\'ve come clean of that image.   You didn\'t expect me to post something like this eh bob.
Title: Question for you guys:Why all this hate?
Post by: mm on April 03, 2002, 10:40:09 AM
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Title: Re: Question for you guys:Why all this hate?
Post by: 182Ways on April 03, 2002, 11:01:15 AM
Oh boy... :rolleyes:

You admit to once being a zealot yourself, and yet you ask people why they hate a console?  You of all people should know the answer, XBH.

But I have a question...

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Originally posted by Terry Bogard
...I mean, everyone praises Halo. Its a great game, but the frame rate problems gave me headaches everynight(I am not joking.)  


Then why did you play it every night?
Title: Question for you guys:Why all this hate?
Post by: GmanJoe on April 03, 2002, 11:06:42 AM
I think Atilla The Hun once said....

"It is not enough that I succeed, everyone else must fail!"

Nice guy. ;)

I don\'t hate MS and Bill gates. I just like making fun of them. :D
Title: Question for you guys:Why all this hate?
Post by: Ashford on April 03, 2002, 11:07:22 AM
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Originally posted by mm
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YES!!!

I got Mr Admin on my side...

Seriously...

The best gaming I\'ve had this generation is from the DC, if you can include DC with the other 3...

I\'m not saying all or most of the DC games were great but the ones that came out in 2000, right around the time of the JP PS2 launch through Spring 2001, were the very best.

RE: C:V, Marvel Vs Capcom 2, Shenmue, PSO were most enjoyable...

However, most games released afterwards, including DC, were rather unappealing.

The last great game I\'ve played, other than Shenmue 2, is Grandia 2. How sad that a game 2 years old is still better than 90% of what companies spew out.
Title: Question for you guys:Why all this hate?
Post by: Terry Bogard on April 03, 2002, 11:09:52 AM
Oh boy, look what I got myself into...


Things im not even going to answer.


leaves thread
Title: Question for you guys:Why all this hate?
Post by: Titan on April 03, 2002, 11:13:30 AM
I don\'t see what the big deal is. It\'s people opinions on a console. Its to the person\'s opinion to decide whether a console sucks or not. No wonder I hardly ever come into Console Debate. Same people getting into fights over the same damn crap. I could seriously care less about these "Console wars". I got PS2 because the games are more oriented toward the genre\'s I liked and sequels to games I like (MGS2 and GTA3) along with some kickass games on the side (TimeSplitters (If I ever get it working again) Kinetica, GT3, ect). Just my 2 cents.
Title: Question for you guys:Why all this hate?
Post by: nO-One on April 03, 2002, 11:17:18 AM
Bill Gates beat me up once, then Ken Kutaragi beat him up. That\'s why I choose the PS.2 over teh Xbox. And since Mr.Myamoto just sat there and did nothing I not to fond of the GameCube either.

:p

But in all seriousness I don\'t hate any of the consoles and have never bashed one of them.
Title: Question for you guys:Why all this hate?
Post by: Heretic on April 03, 2002, 11:43:55 AM
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Originally posted by Ashford

I haven\'t been too impressed with any of the 3 consoles


If you and mm are going to be that way about it, I\'ll say the same and throw in the DC along with the other 3. Last time I thought, WOW! consoles have come along way! was seeing Tomb Raider for the first time over 6 years ago.

The game element will always be a matter of taste. Can\'t say that I share yours
Title: Question for you guys:Why all this hate?
Post by: ooseven on April 03, 2002, 12:00:56 PM
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Originally posted by nO-One
Bill Gates beat me up once, then Ken Kutaragi beat him up. That\'s why I choose the PS.2 over teh Xbox. And since Mr.Myamoto just sat there and did nothing I not to fond of the GameCube either.

:p

But in all seriousness I don\'t hate any of the consoles and have never bashed one of them.


Tell me about it

//me Nurses very red fore\'s arm


that Gates sure can do a Top notch Chinese Burn

:crying:
Title: Question for you guys:Why all this hate?
Post by: QuDDus on April 03, 2002, 01:01:30 PM
There is no reason to hate ms or sony. Ppl are jealous of Bill gates because the guy has more money than they could ever imagine and they need to get over it.

I could see why ppl would hate nintendo the way they did the developers. But that was a long time ago.
Title: Question for you guys:Why all this hate?
Post by: Chrono on April 03, 2002, 01:05:14 PM
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Ppl are jealous of Bill gates because the guy has more money than they could ever imagine and they need to get over it.


no, he just lied, cheated, and stole the entire way to the top
and provided absolutly no innovation for the PC industry other then stealing..

lol, that makes me wonder
why is it such a big deal if we copy Windows, when he stole it himself?
Title: Question for you guys:Why all this hate?
Post by: Ryu on April 03, 2002, 01:23:11 PM
Stop the personal attacks please.  It\'s really not necessary.  He asked a simple question, not for an evaluation of his character or past.
Title: Question for you guys:Why all this hate?
Post by: Ashford on April 03, 2002, 02:13:34 PM
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Originally posted by Ryu
Stop the personal attacks please.  It\'s really not necessary.  He asked a simple question, not for an evaluation of his character or past.


Personal attacks against whom? Members or all people?

Does that include personal attacks against Bill Gates?
Title: Question for you guys:Why all this hate?
Post by: Ryu on April 03, 2002, 02:35:51 PM
Personal Attacks against members.  It\'s open season on Bill Gates though. :)
Title: Question for you guys:Why all this hate?
Post by: mm on April 03, 2002, 05:40:04 PM
woohoo!  

/me loads insult gun!
Title: Question for you guys:Why all this hate?
Post by: Ryu on April 03, 2002, 06:07:05 PM
ROFL

Just as I read your insult gun comment mm, I just so happened to be watching The Terminator on DVD and a quote blared right from my TV at that moment:

"F*ck you Asshole." -AS

omg, brilliant. :)
Title: Question for you guys:Why all this hate?
Post by: mm on April 03, 2002, 06:17:20 PM
/me takes a bow
Title: Question for you guys:Why all this hate?
Post by: ooseven on April 04, 2002, 02:25:04 AM
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Originally posted by Ryu
Personal Attacks against members.  It\'s open season on Bill Gates though. :)


Yeaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhh


//me runs up and plants a bigkiss on Ryu\'s lips

gee thanks Hunny Bun !
Title: Question for you guys:Why all this hate?
Post by: Ryu on April 04, 2002, 02:51:17 AM
There are some people who believe that because Bill Gates is rich and for the most part, we are not, that is just reason for us to bash him and it is our only reason.  However, jealousy is not any reason to bash Bill Gates.  If jealousy was the culprit, then Walmart would be recieving just as many bashes as any other person or chain, but the owner does not, even though he is richer than Bill Gates at the moment.

Why do we bash Gates and not the Walmart guy?

Walmart offers us products at rock bottom prices that can\'t go wrong.  It\'s available in lots of places nationwide and its a place we don\'t mind shopping at.  In contrast, Microsoft offers a mediocre product at a set price full of quality control issues.  The problem isn\'t that Bill Gates is rich, the problem is that the products we need (or are forced to use) need to meet standards that we are paying for.  Sure, no one is twisting our arm to use office, or windows, but just see how many games out there support other OS\'s or systems as quickly as they do Windows.  It\'s a lack of options that keeps me a windows user and it sucks honestly and I don\'t like MS for that.  Gates put this policy forward so he gets plenty of slack for it.

Walmart owner says cheap items with lots of quality and variety and he makes it the best chain out there... How can I hate the guy or the company?  Contrasts are beautiful. :)
Title: Question for you guys:Why all this hate?
Post by: Ashford on April 04, 2002, 11:37:51 AM
Ok, fair enough...

Let\'s hope the zero tolerance policy is enforced.
Title: Question for you guys:Why all this hate?
Post by: Eiksirf on April 04, 2002, 08:55:56 PM
Then again, I\'d like to punch the Walmart guy once or twice in the stomach.

But that might just be me. ;]

Hey you know what?

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Walmart owner says cheap items with lots of quality and variety and he makes it the best chain out there... How can I hate the guy or the company? Contrasts are beautiful.


Change \'Walmart owner\' to \'Hiroshi Yamauchi\' and it still works... hmmm...

Well, except for the beautiful part.  Yamauchi is ugly. :)

-Eik
Title: Question for you guys:Why all this hate?
Post by: Ace on April 05, 2002, 04:41:46 AM
If you don\'t like MS go buy a Mac. Buy nothing from MS and convice others to do the same and put them out of business.

Who cares anymore anyway?

BTW, this is in no way an attack on any one person on this board.

I\'m having a rotten week if you can\'t tell.

Ace