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Non Gaming Discussions => Off-Topic => Topic started by: CheeseLogDog on April 05, 2002, 12:11:18 PM
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Who here thinks the US has justification, and should attack Iraq in the near future to overthrow Saddam Hussein? Because it will happen sooner or later.
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Yeah.
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No.
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sure, let the US attack iraq, you know where that would lead? More bombings, and more terrorism, and most of the muslim nations hating the USA. sure, the choice is clear, lets have a bar-b-cue Nuke style.
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I agree...except for one thing. Don\'t most of the Muslim nations already hate the US?
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Originally posted by shockwaves
I agree...except for one thing. Don\'t most of the Muslim nations already hate the US?
Some countries have "Political/economical(Oil)" relations with the USA. Jordan/Egypt are "friends" :rolleyes:
So yeah, if you want to pay $10.00 for a gallon of gasoline lets bomb Iraq, and kill all the Palestinians while we are at it.
Oh, wait, the Muslims have Nukes already, might as well start WW3 The Christians/Jews against the Muslims. Fo sure.
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Originally posted by Toxical
Some countries have "Political/economical(Oil)" relations with the USA. Jordan/Egypt are "friends" :rolleyes:
So yeah, if you want to pay $10.00 for a gallon of gasoline lets bomb Iraq, and kill all the Palestinians while we are at it.
Oh, wait, the Muslims have Nukes already, might as well start WW3 The Christians/Jews against the Muslims. Fo sure.
Cool, so you agree. Let\'s wipe them out.
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dont you guys remember the US "tried" to kill saddam almost 8 years ago?
then he became our "friend"
:rolleyes:
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Originally posted by Videoholic
Cool, so you agree. Let\'s wipe them out.
I agree, never finish a job half way done. IF you go out and do something, finish it. ;)
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He\'s going to mustard gas all our asses to hell.
Remember he has all that biological crap.
Cant we just disguise Arnold Schwarzenegger as a Iraqi and he will break Saddams neck?
Thats a great ide IMO :)
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Originally posted by fastson
Cant we just disguise Arnold Schwarzenegger as a Iraqi and he will break Saddams neck?
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO :laughing:
We need Stephen Segal to bring some whoopazz to Sadam !
And if Segal runs out of steam, they can fast-forward the speed of the Segal action so it looks like Segal is actually fast :laughing:
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Saddam\'s still alive? I thought the house that fell on him killed him and his little dog...?:rolleyes:
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Seriously, I think we need to be more concerned with Osama right now; I don\'t think we can handle 2 wars at once.
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You say that as if our little skirmish with Afghanistan is a war. It\'s too one sided to be considered one if you ask me. And yes, we can handle much more than 2 wars at once against countries like that.
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What they need is a cage full of weapons, and put both osama and saddam in it and let them fight to the death, then kill the winner!!!! Maybe I\'m too drunk :rolleyes: either way, they both need to be killed IMO
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I heard on CNN that the US Airforce was getting low of bombs, and the ammo was running low.
But it might just be propaganda from the US so the US citizens will support the army in getting more money?
I think "we" should concentrate on the middle-east crisis first.
Sharon is taking it to far. (fat bastard)
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I think they should just kill him, he\'s a pest.
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Well....Iraq aint done nothin to us latley.....they got nukes.....we got nukes....so if we attack em nuclear war right there. So I dont think we should attack.
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Originally posted by cloud345
Well....Iraq aint done nothin to us latley.....they got nukes.....we got nukes....so if we attack em nuclear war right there. So I dont think we should attack.
Yeah, may as well wait until he makes the first move......
um, right.....
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it\'s the North against he south type of conflict ... Christians/Jews against Muslims.
Who gonna win, who got the nukes, Pakistan fo Sure. Iran? maybe a dirty nuke or two. Iraq? maybe a couple. The biggest threat is Pakistan, they got real bombs, not the dirty-bombs, all they need is a nice rocket to swing a dozen at north America, and a new "regime" to take over musharef current "regime". Taliban in pakistan baby, book it.
You know WW3 is around the corner, too many fukked up people around, too many conflicts, too many people fukking with other peoples shiat, just a matter of time before it explodes.
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What? Provoke a war with Iraq and risk facing their ultimate doomsday weapon... the SCUD MISSLE!!!! The only weapon of mass destruction which can be fired out of the trunk of a Winnebago. Yeah, I\'m scared. So what if Saddam\'s get\'s -real- nukes. You know we\'re gonna take em away from him, and then dispose of his pesky ass. The "threat" of a nuke would be just cause in itself... as if we don\'t have enough already.
There will be no WWIII. IF it does come down to using Nukes, and real ones, then how many aren\'t in the hands of friendly countries? Well lets see, Iraq may have 10.. Pakistan\'s got 500.. India\'s got roughly the same or a bit more.. who else? And how many of those missles are actually ICBM\'s? The "Allies" far out strip them. The US has 50,000 or more.. 30,000 or more in Russia.. a compairable number in both China and Britian (England is a Nuclear power right?)
Granted, China isn\'t on our side ~per sey~, but they sure as hell aren\'t on Iraq\'s side. For every one of their Nukes pointed away from us, it might as well be another one pointed at the Mid East. Then again, India and Pakistan aren\'t exactly friendly with each other either. An alliance between them and Pakistan is highly unlikely, so you could probably count them out. If Pakistan blows it\'s wad trying to take out the "Great White Devil" then that\'ll give India a massive upperhand. Those two countries are in an arms race of their own.. and I doubt either country would leave itself vulnerable to attack from the other.
I just don\'t see a nuclear war happening anytime soon. There\'s too much to risk, and too much tension between countries over there. What will most likely happen is an all out -non nuclear- war between a few of the countries over there and the increased threat of suicide bombings in the US and other US Allies. Not to say we shouldn\'t tread carefully.. this situation could have drastic outcomes.. but not THAT drastic.
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No no no.. SonyFan your wrong.
Saddam has upgraded his arsenal. He has the.. puh.. such powerful word I cant say it.. ok ill be strong. He has the V2 missle!!
:eek:
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you guys do not realize that Sadam has gas, as in "i ate beans, and i have gas" they dump a nuke in his azz, and he points it at as and we are done :(
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Originally posted by fastson
Cant we just disguise Arnold Schwarzenegger as a Iraqi and he will break Saddams neck?
Dude...I think you actually spelled his name correctly!?!?!
I salute you.. seriously
:p
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no...don\'t attack anybody unless attack upon...
I think Somalia was a big lesson for us already...we don\'t need another one:rolleyes:
let them take care their own business my people...
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Originally posted by shockwaves
You say that as if our little skirmish with Afghanistan is a war. It\'s too one sided to be considered one if you ask me. And yes, we can handle much more than 2 wars at once against countries like that.
I hope you\'re right, man. \'Cause that seems like whats gonna happen...:sconf:
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Sure \'we\' could kill that homo known as Saddam. But the thing is one of his bastard sons/cousins/inbred goats will just take over.
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It\'s a known fact that USA bombs the country that makes USA (a.k.a the world police) richer.
Darn capitalists. :hat:
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Well , if we do attack iraq , I hope the world is ready for WW3...
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Originally posted by Deadly Hamster
Well , if we do attack iraq , I hope the world is ready for WW3...
With bush as president, you should be.
Who knows what he could say wrong in the next speach? ;)
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WW3?
what major world player is backing iraq?
what are the 2-3 3rd world countries gonna do? throw some rocks?
only major world player left is russia, and US would be doing them a favor by destroying those countries
hell, USSR tried it back in the 80\'s and failed
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MM , easily being able to WIN a WW and not having one at all are completely diffrent things.
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Originally posted by mm
WW3?
what major world player is backing iraq?
what are the 2-3 3rd world countries gonna do? throw some rocks?
only major world player left is russia, and US would be doing them a favor by destroying those countries
hell, USSR tried it back in the 80\'s and failed
Well, didnt US say the same before Usama bin Laden ?
There are many people that became rich, mostly with oil, and has the ability to create/recrute troops with the right propaganda.
You should never underestimate your opponent. Dident you learn that from PS2 playing? ;)
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from PS2 playing? i learn that PS2\'s are selling like wildfire and the competition picks up the scraps
im not promoting a WW, nor am i very fond of the US war machine.
im merely saying that if the US deciding to invade iraq or blank the whole country off the face of the earth
ANY country capable of taking part in a WW, wouldnt blink an eye
oh, and its Osama btw
and is that why he is hiding like a cockroach?
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MM , if the U.S attacked iraq , basicly wed have the whole middle east trying to kill us , and most of the middle eastern citizens willing to enlist. Anti-american feelings have been there for a long time... and with Izreal attacking palestine and if the U.S. goes after iraq you can expect other countries to help them.
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"IF" the US decided to attack Iraq
it would be
UN vs perhaps 5 small 3rd world countries
remember the "sleeping giant" incident?
i love the whole "anti-american" thoughtpath over there
yet, they kill each other over levi\'s and drink pepsi, and listen to puff daddy, and eat at macdonalds
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Yeah , your right mm , what can Iraq do.. all they got are nukes and chemicle warfare ( oh yeah and we don\'t even know what else they have developed )
no need to worry...
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fire at nuke at the US?
they have defense sheild remember? *knock, knock*
if they launch a nuke, the US launch a nuke, and good bye iraq
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Absolutely ludicrous to not do something about Iraq. Who gives a flying rats ass if we piss off a bunch of weirdos in these 3rd world countries.
You people are highly ignorant of the press. You do realize that not all people over there hate the US, right? You do realize that putting video of a bunch of people jumping around in the streets with burning american flags makes a lot better video than school kids in school who are just sitting there being good citizens.
There is nothing wrong with the US protecting it\'s citizens from future whack jobs like Osama and Sadam.
You little wuss countries are going to be kissing our ass one day because we whiped these trolls off the earth.
I\'m obviously being a little extreme here and I will probably piss a few people off, but who gives a crap. It\'s unbelievable to me that you wouldn\'t want to get a person out that has the ability to terrorize the entire world with Chemical and nuclear weapons.
I don\'t like war, but then again, we didn\'t start this crap.
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I have to say that I agree with mm on this one. The US have even been testing those anti missile things that can fly half way around the world in no time at all. It\'d be Iraq, then add in North Korea, and a couple of others, they havnt got a chance. It would be interesting to see what China do though, but after Sept 11th, I think they will back the US
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WW3?
what major world player is backing iraq?
what are the 2-3 3rd world countries gonna do? throw some rocks?
only major world player left is russia, and US would be doing them a favor by destroying those countries
hell, USSR tried it back in the 80\'s and failed - MM
Ummm.. didn\'t I jus say that back on page one? Noone over there is ready for Nuclear War aside from a few fringe extreemists. None of the governments would even consider it because they KNOW their ass is nuclear toast if they do. We all saw the world\'s reaction when some loonies few a couplla planes into a building... how do you THINK the world will react to a rouge government lobbing nukes around indescriminantly and breaking upteen hundred treaties in the process.
This isn\'t the Cold War anymore, and power isn\'t judged by the military.. but by the economy. Anyone who wants to be a superpower (I.E. China & Russia) knows they\'re get much farther ahead with stability and trade than they will through fear of fallout. England is an staunch ally, so you know they\'res no threat from them. And India has their own problems which Pakistan and vice versa.. they\'re in an arms race of their own, and with limited supply there\'s no way they\'re going to leave themselves defenceless to attack from the other.
WWIII, if it starts over this, will not be a nuclear holocaust. End of story.
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USA will never drop a nuke on Iraq/Iran/Syria etc.. They\'d piss the Jews off, god forbid that. :laughing: USA has to first ask Israeli permission to do stuff. I say give both sides arms/support, and let them do the dirty work, we get the oil after.
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Originally posted by mm
oh, and its Osama btw
Hey, do you know arabic?
No, i dont think so.
You can spell it in whatever way you like but it\'s still prononced [U;sá;ma;] :p
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Usama hates the US because they did not leave Mohammed’s holy land after the Russian-Afghan war. (something in his home country Saudi Arabia)
He started to hate them even more after the Gulf War.
Not all Arabs hate the US. Some of them are just trying to stay alive and could care less what happens to their country.
But I reckon the majority of them do, especially the once in higher places. (politicians, people with money, people who care)
The support for the US was very strong after September 11th. It has got weaker now after bombing civilians in Afghan, (and not finding Usama) and not having the balls to tell Israel to retreat.
US is in a dilemma now. Either they should support their lovechild Israel, but that would hurt the support from Arabic countries "in the war against terrorism".
Or help Palestine, that would of course increase the support from Arabic countries, but it would also hurt the relations with Israel.
Attacking Iraq right now would not be such a smart thing. The support from Europe would hit a new low, same thing with UN I reckon as well.
First solve the middle east crisis, the US and EU are the only forces that can try to stop it, Israel only listens to the US it seems.
From there we will se how it goes.
Why btw attack North Korea? I though the relations had gotten better between north and south now.. And some US government person was there when Clinton was still president?
EDIT: Osama, Usama. Same name. We say Usama in Sweden, you say Osama in America. We understand each other dont we?
Oh and I believe its Usama in arabic too.. :)
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do i speak aribac [means the same thing right?]
hmm, i got a pet chimpanzee so that superceedes anything you could do
:P
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Originally posted by mm
do i speak aribac [means the same thing right?]
hmm, i got a pet chimpanzee so that superceedes anything you could do
:P
Damn! I\'m screwed ;)
(agar to jek chimpans darad man mitavanam jek chisi wasash nechan bokonam... )
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Originally posted by mm
oh, and its Osama btw
and is that why he is hiding like a cockroach?
Since I love to pick hairs, on sept. 11th. and for 3 days or so afterwards when the US was "under attack" (and I use under attack loosely) Bush was in hiding himself, but yet called others cowards. Its easy to talk big when you are a super power.
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Bush is an Israeli puppet, actually the whole government is. :(
Does the USA have a backbone left? Or are the special interest groups playing a nice number on the USA? I see that fat bastard Sharon laughing and ignoring the rest of the world, and even the USA.
I just love it how the Israelis try and convey the argument that if 20 Jews die in a terrorist attack, it is equivalent to 3000 Americans dying :rolleyes: hmmm, they should use China as a comparison, it would be 12,000 people.
Israel, where they torture their prisoners, and don\'t uphold human rights,... yeah, democratic country, just full of double standards. If France had a piece of sh!t war criminal as their president, that killed some jews, the Jews would be sh!ting their pants trying to get him behind bars/executed, etc... :rolleyes: But since Sharon is a jew, they don’t care, and set a nice double standard, Sharon Israeli war hero = evil butcher piece of sh!t.
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yeah, hes the butcher of baghdad
sharon wont be laughing when the surrounding arab countries go for nuts and just overwhelm israel
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Originally posted by mm
yeah, hes the butcher of baghdad
sharon wont be laughing when the surrounding arab countries go for nuts and just overwhelm israel
Yup, that\'s when the US get\'s their nose\'s in it and step in with night fighter missions.
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unfortunatley, the war machine makes money for the US
/me shrugs
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The US has a responisibly being the sole super power in the world. The US must make sure that all other countries don\'t eat eacthother up. I do agree that the US should stop trying to be the police of the world. Out government is a bit arrogant.
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Middle East vs. Isreal and U.S. and some european countries = WW3 , or am i missing something here?
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yeah, just about every major player
germany, japan, china, russia, italy, france, england, etc. etc.
it would be US and isreal [and the rest of the UN] vs the arab countries
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Originally posted by CheeseLogDog
The US has a responisibly being the sole super power in the world. The US must make sure that all other countries don\'t eat eacthother up. I do agree that the US should stop trying to be the police of the world. Out government is a bit arrogant.
No, it is not the duty of the US to do that, that is the duty of the UN. The US doesn\'t need to have it\'s dirty little fingers in everything for once.
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Originally posted by luckee
No, it is not the duty of the US to do that, that is the duty of the UN. The US doesn\'t need to have it\'s dirty little fingers in everything for once.
Exactly. When are people going to realize that we don\'t necessarily know what is good for the rest of the world. Let them work things out themselves, we don\'t need to, and shouldn\'t do things for them. The way we police the world sometimes is truely sickening to me.
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Bomb Canada.
Blame it on Iraq.
:D
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Originally posted by Vapor Snake
Bomb Canada.
Blame it on Iraq.
:D
Like anyone would bomb poor Canada. :laughing:
Canada is poor, and clueless, Big brother sneezes (USA) and little bro catches a cold.
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I ****\'n hate Israel with a passion. They think they are so God damn great. When is someone going to put a bullet in Sharon\'s head.:D
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ouch
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Originally posted by Deadly Hamster
Middle East vs. Isreal and U.S. and some european countries = WW3 , or am i missing something here?
Yeah, so technically it would be a world war, but I just cant see it being much of one, notthing like the first two. The opposition just wouldnt have a chance, it\'d be as easy as taking candy from a baby.
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This picture is very ture :)
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Rick: Just like Vietnam then, ay? ;)
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lol
that picture says it all.
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That pictures is very true, Bush being a puppet providing the salt+pepper or in this case ("Moral Support and American jets/tanks/choppers") while the Palestinian civilians get the Israeli human rights abuse, no wonder the Israelis don’t\' want TV crews documenting their atrocities, No 3rd parties allowed in to witness what they do,.. I guess The Israelis do what they please, any other country on this blue planet can’t,
Israelis can kill a mother with 2 babies to get one terrorist, that is ok, but kill one Israeli and they compare that against 300 US lives. :rolleyes:
Today some Israeli moron on CNN said that if you compare how many Israelis died because of this is like 40,000 Americans dying because of Terrorism. :rolleyes: Too bad they don’t\' show the real stats, for one Israeli soldier killed 20 Palestinians Civilians/Terrorists die. Right, Kill them all, let god sort them out.
How come Israel has nukes? Who the fukk let them have those? If some Arab country wanted them, Bush and the Israelis would be protesting !
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I just for one want to see america kicks Isreals ass , Isreal isn\'t listening to what bush says anymore so its time to do what america does to anyone who doesnt listen: Attack!
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Heh, saw the paper this morning, had something about this. Seems Bush actually did something, and told the Isrealies to pull out of the West Bank (Sharon\'s been pushing in hard for the kill, and going after Arafat), but Sharon didn\'t listen. So they had a "frank" (and undisclosed, I believe) phone conversation. Here\'s hoping Bush\'s trades his pussy in for those balls he threw away when he got bored of bombing tents.
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i saw on the news , after CNN asked one soilder if they kickded and beat a man , and they actualy said they did ... im sure U.S. does it to but we sure as hell dont tell the news..
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No Government offical (including Bush) will go against the Israelis, unless they want their special interest funding from the jews cut-off. That is one thing i hate about politics, they buy their way into power.
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I agree, so what will happen about Israel?
Nice pic Fastson!!
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Meh, KKK\'ll take care of \'em (aw ****, I\'d better stop typing now).
*If you took it seriously despite the "aw ****," you suck. I didn\'t mean anything, and I do not supoort or agree with KKK, blah blah blah. I really didn\'t want to put this asterisk in, because it ruins almost all hope of funniness, but there\'s always a few morons who don\'t get it. That\'s you!
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I think they\'re both a couppla terrorist bastards who should both be exiled or arrested. Sheron has a right to protect his country, but he takes things WAAAAYYY too far because he thinks he can get away with it. Arafat also has a right to keep Israel from entering the West Bank territories and stop them from taking even more land than they already have... but he seriously needs to stop the suicide bombings.. or at least have them attack military instillations instead of civillians.
The only people I side with, are the Israilie and Palestinian civillians who are caught in the middle and burrying friends and family nearly every other day because their leaders and their "armys" are too fookin powerhungry and revenge minded to do what SHOULD be a reletively easy task... putting the guns down and talking.
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i\'ll bet you, if you give the Palestinians their own land/country, and pump the same amount of help as Israel gets, they will be content. :D
If everyone is working, and is happy, nobody is bombing,... i guess both sides have gone too far, one side is quite mad and the other is too proud to talk while the other people are on their land... MAD + PROUD = WW3.
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WHASSAPPPPP?????
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True... True...
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President Bush grows a backbone, says:
"I meant what I said" on call for immediate end to Israeli offensive
Too bad Israel is pizzing on his words, and ignores the world including "Super power" USA.
Seems only fair that the world ignore Israel when they want Holocaust reparation from companies/countries/banks etc...
Watching BBC-world news makes me think just how brainwashed people are into kissing Israels azz.
When ever someone says something that the Jews dont\' like they bring the "anti-Semite" wording out of the fukking closet, i guess they don\'t understand the words, "Pull out of Palestine"
If the Jews want to wage war on terrorism, they should not kill civilians, and have the civilian population suffer. Fukking double standards. They call Arafat a terrorist, what are they? No fukking better. Butchers.
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Yeah, Toxical, but everyone\'s like that. They might as well put it down in the Thesaurus that another word for Hipocracy = Politics. As long as there\'s people in power, there will be people who lust after power, and will do whatever it takes to say there and get more. Sad fact of life. Look at the cold war for example, the US and Russia were BOTH lying and accusing the other of spying, doin covert operations, and attempting to control the world... when they were doing the exact same thing all along. I bet you anything if we went over to China and stole some of their military\'s top secrets, they\'d throw a big ole hissy fit and denounce the US as a bunch of cowardly thieves.. and then jus look at all the crap of ours that got stolen by them outta Los Alamos!!
Lets not forget that durring WWII, America also had concentration camps. Sure, we weren\'t killing people in mass droves, but we f*cked up a lot of lives and a lot of familys over remote possibilities.. then ***** at the Germans for locking up all the people Hitler saw as subverting his country. And SPEAKING of holocausts, when was the last time we ever had a national memorial day or a holiday in commemoration and forgiveness for what our forefathers did to the Native Americans? The US is one of the biggest war-crime bastards out there.. and they\'ll fight you tooth an nail because to admit that we caused a holocaust everybit as bad ~or worse~ than what the Nazi\'s did would put a serious dent in the gov\'t\'s credibility. It just ain\'t gonna happen, and I tell ya what else.. They\'re STILL f*cking the NA\'s over.
Everyone is a hippocrite, and the US certainly isn\'t one to throw stones or take sides. I still say we should go in there and do what we can to help both the Palestinian and Israilie civillans.. to hell with their gov\'ts. If Israiel wants to take a pot-shot at American, British, German, Itallian, whoever\'s troops trying to give aid those those who need it.. then hey, it\'s their funeral. Force them to take responsiblity for their own actions instead of making their people suffer.
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By the way... U.S. will not attack Iraq but they will create a plan to throw Hussein off the throne...
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no need to throw him off the throne
ask jimmy hoffa what happens when one man takes on the US
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jimmy hoffa lives in my closet....
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Originally posted by SonyFan
Yeah, Toxical, but everyone\'s like that. They might as well put it down in the Thesaurus that another word for Hipocracy = Politics. As long as there\'s people in power, there will be people who lust after power, and will do whatever it takes to say there and get more. Sad fact of life. Look at the cold war for example, the US and Russia were BOTH lying and accusing the other of spying, doin covert operations, and attempting to control the world... when they were doing the exact same thing all along. I bet you anything if we went over to China and stole some of their military\'s top secrets, they\'d throw a big ole hissy fit and denounce the US as a bunch of cowardly thieves.. and then jus look at all the crap of ours that got stolen by them outta Los Alamos!!
Lets not forget that durring WWII, America also had concentration camps. Sure, we weren\'t killing people in mass droves, but we f*cked up a lot of lives and a lot of familys over remote possibilities.. then ***** at the Germans for locking up all the people Hitler saw as subverting his country. And SPEAKING of holocausts, when was the last time we ever had a national memorial day or a holiday in commemoration and forgiveness for what our forefathers did to the Native Americans? The US is one of the biggest war-crime bastards out there.. and they\'ll fight you tooth an nail because to admit that we caused a holocaust everybit as bad ~or worse~ than what the Nazi\'s did would put a serious dent in the gov\'t\'s credibility. It just ain\'t gonna happen, and I tell ya what else.. They\'re STILL f*cking the NA\'s over.
Everyone is a hippocrite, and the US certainly isn\'t one to throw stones or take sides. I still say we should go in there and do what we can to help both the Palestinian and Israilie civillans.. to hell with their gov\'ts. If Israiel wants to take a pot-shot at American, British, German, Itallian, whoever\'s troops trying to give aid those those who need it.. then hey, it\'s their funeral. Force them to take responsiblity for their own actions instead of making their people suffer.
I agree, it is just hard to get through the system that a little "oil-less" country would have so many tenticles in US goverment, and in the world to do what they please.
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I guess the Israelis can bomb/shoot and just pizz on a church as long as it ain\'t their holy-wall. :rolleyes:
I wonder when this sh!t will end, and who will be in charge...
The whole mess started when Britain conquered Palestine and claimed it their colony. (That\'s why Palestine was never \'officially\' a country, because people just lived there and didn\'t give a sh*t, like the Native Americans). Around the mid-1800s Jewish people all over the world decided on a plan to establish a homeland. They were offered regions in Africa, but they rejected it and wanted to establish it in Palestine. So they started immigrating to Palestine in droves. The Palestinians found out about the plan and wanted to put a stop to it. They tried to restrict immigration, but the Jews kept on sneaking in.
Finally after WWII, the whole world felt sorry for the Jews because of the Holocaust, and Britain therefore decided to create the homeland in \'their colony\', Palestine. They split the region into two, Israel, and Palestine. Immediately after Israel was created, all the Arab states attacked Israel on behalf of the Palestinians and were subsequently defeated. A few decades later, Israel took more land by making a \'pre-emptive\' strike on all surrounding land. Jewish people settled in this land in violation of international law (the 4th Geneva convention). Instead of going after Israel\'s high-tech army, the Palestinians decided to go after Israeli citizens with their crude weapons (mainly in the occupied territories). Arafat was the leader of these terrorists/freedom fighters. Sharon was a general that massacred hundreds of Palestinians in a refugee camp. Israel gets $3 billion in military aid from the Americans, that\'s why Arabs in the region hate the Americans so much, because it\'s American weapons that are killing the Palestinians.
Basically the reason why the media is biased in favour of Israel is because many of the top positions in the media are held by Jewish people. In China, the government controls the media. In North America, the media controls the government. Why would the US give $3 billion a year to a modern country like Israel?, that\'s insane. Too many jewish lobyists around :laughing:
My take is that the borders should go back to post WWII borders. They should build a wall (like the Berlin wall) to separate the two sides until they cool down, which should be at least a few generations. And the US should give $3 billion dollars to improve the living conditions of the Palestinians, instead of giving $3 billion to Israel. Palestine is like a 3rd world country, they should get aid so they will have something to live for instead of blowing themselves up.