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Playstation/Gaming Discussions => PS3 Discussion => Topic started by: RichG on April 08, 2002, 08:56:20 AM
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Decided to do the old rent a game play it hardcore like until its completed before returning it.
Out of a few unplayed gems of ICO, DMC and Baulders Gate: DC I decided to get DMC.
Heres my review...
Well you might be thinking the name Devil May Cry sounds strange well its because a devil may actually cry when they meet the hero of the game because hes son of this legendary knight Sparda. You think thats bad? Well the whole story is as small as it is lame.
Done by Capcom heros of the Survival Horror genre (although i\'d like to think that Konami has this title now after the amazing Silent Hill 2) this game runs to a same sort of vien. Some story, go kill monsters and be scared. Be scared though? No actually thats wrong this game is an action game. Go kill monsters get a snippet of story and go kill other monsters.
Now this sounds like its going to get boring... well it does! Well this isn\'t the games major downfall as for the most part killing this endless respawning monsters is fairly fun. You get orbs you see (complete copy in everyway to Onimusha Warlords). Like Onimusha Warlords different coloured orbs do different things, and you can get new moves and health items etc from these shop like things.
Now it sounds like I haven\'t told you much about what you do in the game but thats because unfortunatly that is all you do. Kill monsters get the orbs, upgrade the character and kill more monsters to snippets of story.
Well the upgrading the character is fun as you get new moves. However far too few for it to be that rewarding. You have to learn the tactics of fighting to beat the harder monsters and these tactics are summerised in your inventory area depending on what moves you have tried on the monsters. Soon you will be kicking devil butt and quite enjoying the game.
However like the games of old its one of these play the game for 20 minutes die and then end up having to retrack back from the save point (the start of the level - unless you have a yellow orb which I can write a further paragraph explaining how stupid they are...). This is definatly no way of making a game hard, it may do this... however it also makes the game infuriating and literally unfun to play. You see between save points you might have to fight 3 or 4 bosses. This game along side football games has prehaps seen me cursing at the ps2 the most. Sometimes i\'d get someplace killing all the bosses as I go, get to the final one, die, start again and then find im having trouble killing the first ones. Once you get to the next save point you had that nice relief of finally im there but its short lived as soon you will be backtracking again. Its not that I died a lot in this game its just that sometimes you do die in it, and when you do you will be sorry.
The graphics on the other hand are great. The PAL conversation is crap (nice one Capcom) but the graphics still shine as something nice.
The story of the game is another letdown. First a women smashes through your shop window. Then your in a castle, then a pirate ship (don\'t ask????) then fighting something else all with snippets of story which seem fake and just placed there for the hell of it, they don\'t even explain why theres a pirate ship just where the castle is.
I can\'t see what the hype of this game is. I love the free roaming jump feature and the fast action gameplay. However Onimusha Warlords is so much better. Devil May Cry is nothing more than a shallow beatemup (allmost). Its a suckish conversation, the story for this game would be better not being there, its infuriating at moments and we\'ve seen it all before. Onimusha Walords was the game which broke Capcoms Resident Evil mold. This breaks it too but breaks everything good about Resident Evil.
The thought of playing this game now makes my stomach turn.
5/10 - Just because it has nice graphics and some good gameplay bits. The low score though is due to its repetitive, dullness, the fact that this £45 game (read: expensive) can be completed in a day or so and its infuriating qualities.
Verdict: A very dull Onimusha Warlords.
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You forgot to mention that the camera made the game nearly unplayable in some areas.
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Originally posted by ben_high
You forgot to mention that the camera made the game nearly unplayable in some areas.
Cheers. Also whilst we\'ve at it I forgot to talk about how dark it is in some areas. Also the menu system being really anonying. So plain. Never been updated. So when reloading all the time it takes ages to load a save.
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well i think that is a bit harsh!!!!!!!!
i really enjoyed dmc!!! yeah the story wasnt that great, but the game rocked, you say dmc is not original.....well **** me, its soooo hard to make origianl game now adays, a everyone is copying things from each other!!! most bosses where hard, till you worked out to kill them, then tey became easy!!! also u may of found it hard, as u didnt level up the things that would make it easier!!! id give dmc a 8/10, maybe a 9
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Most people who don\'t like DMC are just saying that because it\'s "too hard". DMC is one of the best games ever, period. Sure, the story may be horribly cliche\'d, but aren\'t most action movies/games that way? The fights were quite difficult at first, but while playing it, I found myself reloading immediately to try again, often 5 or 6 times before I got it right. I then realized that something must be great about this game, because I usually turn a game off whenever I die, and try again later. But not here. After long gaming sessions with DMC, I found myself drenched with sweat and heart beating like crazy, like I\'d actually been fighting myself! Now that really says something about a game. The camera did bug me sometimes, but the great acting, cool music, great graphics, and unique gameplay more than made up for it. I\'d give it a 10 out of 10. BTW, Air Raid is your friend!:D
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I loved the game, easily one of the PS2\'s very best
had little problems with much of anything in the game, and stroyline in 95% of all games are pretty lame or have lame sides
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Can\'t agree with you there, I bought the game and completed it in 6hrs ( which was a little short ) and I love it, very nice cut scenes and good high paced action. Only thing that sucked was how **** it was converted over to pal.
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Well prehaps 5/10 is a little harsh however this was the legendary DMC, it shouldn\'t suffer from a bad story, bad camera angles etc.
In reality even if you did took to its charm more than what I did it definatly aint what the magazines have given it due to its weaknesses how can 10 / 10 (perfect) be giving to a game with flaws. 9 / 10 very high is also debatable for DMC because of its flaws. Prehaps 8 / 10 if you did like the game.
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I dunno why, but I never really showed much of an interest in this game. Now tho, with all your conflicting scores and perceptions, I think that I will rent this an make my own judgements, after all, there are only a few games that people will agree are great games........
(GT3, GTA3, MGS2, need I say more)
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Awww Rich, you should have picked up ico.. Fantastic game.
Make sure you get it next time, i promise, you\'ll enjoy it.
Simply stunning.. this is as close to a perfect game as i\'ve come across.
A proper heart string puller.
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I also have to disagree...... DMC is a great action/adventure game..... although I have no idea what the story is....the gameplay is perfect!
The jumping attack, and other cool attacks are great. The transforming into a demon is a great addition.
Well you might be thinking the name Devil May Cry sounds strange well its because a devil may actually cry when they meet the hero of the game because hes son of this legendary knight Sparda.
Did you watch the intro? Because the game is called Devil May Cry because Dante run a buisiness and the name of it is Devil May Cry. From what I understand his job is killing demons then getting payed.
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:surprised
I think you missed the point of the game, Rich. Capcom was trying to deliver a fast paced action game in the 3D enviroment, that reminded people of old school games. They delivered in this area. If you get into Dante Must Die, you will see the beatuy of DMC. The skill and excitement you\'ll get from battling countless enemies and what not. Sure, the story wasn\'t that great but it was not suppose to be a compelling storyline. Once again, Capcom was aiming for a fast paced action game. A huge, long drawn out story would of bogged and slowed the game down, so Capcom didn\'t give it one. The only complaint I have with the game is it was too short and not enough weapons. Other than that, I think DMC was a success and worthy of a sequel.
As for the PAL conversion, I can understand being upset with that.
(P.S - ICO blew, in my humble opinion! ;) ).
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Ahh man... That\'s harsh... I loved DMC!
Played through it twice.. Enjoyed the feel and action of the game.
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DMC didn\'t quite grab me as much as Onimusha did, but sometimes I prefer a more well thought out storyline when it comes to a game of this type, which is probably why I enjoyed Onimusha so much. DMC\'s camera really bothered me, but merely because in the world of gaming, after 6 years of working in 3D with consoles, console devs should have the camera practically mastered by now.
[/me slays LiC with a demonic glowing sword] ;)
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Originally posted by Ryu
DMC didn\'t quite grab me as much as Onimusha did, but sometimes I prefer a more well thought out storyline when it comes to a game of this type, which is probably why I enjoyed Onimusha so much. DMC\'s camera really bothered me, but merely because in the world of gaming, after 6 years of working in 3D with consoles, console devs should have the camera practically mastered by now.
[/me slays LiC with a demonic glowing sword] ;)
yeah i am with Ryu on this one i found that Onimusha had the better story and would of totally stole the crown of survivor horror if it was for the fact that it was too short !
anyway love DMC and think is a Superb game
but i have to admit i am much more excited at the tought of Onimusha 2 than DMC2.
p.s.
i found the DMC camera ok too
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Glad to hear all your opinions.
Like 00seven says I would sooner see an Onimusha 2 than a Devil May Cry 2.
Of course though the king is Silent Hill. A Silent Hill 3 would be sweet.
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Originally posted by Ryu
DMC didn\'t quite grab me as much as Onimusha did, but sometimes I prefer a more well thought out storyline when it comes to a game of this type, which is probably why I enjoyed Onimusha so much. DMC\'s camera really bothered me, but merely because in the world of gaming, after 6 years of working in 3D with consoles, console devs should have the camera practically mastered by now.
[/me slays LiC with a demonic glowing sword] ;)
I will agree on the camera note also. However, I also have plenty of complaints about Onimusha, one of them being the fact it could be easily beat in alittle over three hours. Also, while playing Resident Evil I could not shake the feeling that it was just Resident Evil in a different setting. While, DMC came around and it reminded me of the older games and didn\'t require that much brain power.
[/Wonders why I was slayed with a demonic glowing sword...Damnit! ;) ]
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I totally agree Ryu there is no excuse for a bad camera angles in games nowadays.The action in DMC was great though the final boss was a little easy.Overall I think it was a good beginning for a solid franchise.
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Few things. Firstly I did watch the intro and see the shop name. However if you read in the manual you will see the bit about how Dante may make a devil cry.
Secondly oldskool gaming is all good and well its just a shame they kept all the oldskool badness. Like the save game technology has been a step forward for gaming. Prehaps in FPS where you can save anywhere its a bit much but in Devil May Cry its too little.
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Originally posted by RichG
Glad to hear all your opinions.
Like 00seven says I would sooner see an Onimusha 2 than a Devil May Cry 2.
Of course though the king is Silent Hill. A Silent Hill 3 would be sweet.
Damn Joo Richy !
now i got to go back and play Silent Hill 2 again ;)
//me thinks SH2 is > SH !
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Did you watch the intro? Because the game is called Devil May Cry because Dante run a buisiness and the name of it is Devil May Cry. From what I understand his job is killing demons then getting payed. [/B]
actually its coshe so hard..etc ( say something else in manual, like eyes are so cold) even a devil may cry for mercy!!!!!
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Originally posted by Heat
Only thing that sucked was how **** it was converted over to pal.
Yeah, I was going to get this game until I saw the huge black borders on it. Its like watching a widescreen film!
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Originally posted by Kurt Angle
Yeah, I was going to get this game until I saw the huge black borders on it. Its like watching a widescreen film!
still get it or rent it!!!!! it rocks
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Originally posted by Ryu
DMC didn\'t quite grab me as much as Onimusha did, but sometimes I prefer a more well thought out storyline when it comes to a game of this type, which is probably why I enjoyed Onimusha so much. DMC\'s camera really bothered me, but merely because in the world of gaming, after 6 years of working in 3D with consoles, console devs should have the camera practically mastered by now.
[/me slays LiC with a demonic glowing sword] ;)
damn.. sounds like I need to pick up Onimusha.. I guess I missed out majorly... That and VF4 are the top of my current list!
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Originally posted by ajoh432
damn.. sounds like I need to pick up Onimusha.. I guess I missed out majorly... That and VF4 are the top of my current list!
yea onimusha is very good...when peeps say what game to get i usually put it in my list, its a bit short though!!!
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Originally posted by kopking
yea onimusha is very good...when peeps say what game to get i usually put it in my list, its a bit short though!!!
how short is that? hopefully not 3 hour short...
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Originally posted by ajoh432
how short is that? hopefully not 3 hour short...
Yes, its three hours short.
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Pffft. Whiny li\'l people.
DMC = best game on the PS2. Period :p
My current save\'s clocked at 32 hours, going through on DMD at the moment. Lovin\' every second of it.
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Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
Yes, its three hours short.
yeah prob can do it that fast!!! but not first time though, first time took like 7 hours or something, at least that what it said on clock, prob more than that if you recoreded all the time!!!
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Well my post may belong in Hints cheats and codes but hey,this is a DMC thread so why not post it here?
I just got the philosipher stone and I have no idea what to do. Can anyone hellp? Thanks.
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Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
Yes, its three hours short.
Whoa.. I wasn\'t expecting that... Now that I think about it.. I think that\'s why I didn\'t get the game in the first place.. (and saving for DMC instead;))
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Originally posted by cloud345
Well my post may belong in Hints cheats and codes but hey,this is a DMC thread so why not post it here?
I just got the philosipher stone and I have no idea what to do. Can anyone hellp? Thanks.
Return to the fountain area, and put it in the fire. You should be able to tell whats coming next...
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hey Rich,
I gotta disagree with ya. DMC is one of the best game graphically on the PS2 and the fast hard hitting gameplay rocks!! It\'s the first 3D action game that captures the feels of fast hard hitting 2D action games of yore.
Yes, there isn\'t too many puzzle in this game but it\'s not suppose to! It\'s not like RE(which I hate very much) which requires you to do lots of small boring task. DMC IMO, is equivalent to the MATRIX of video gaming! Super cool, super fast, super graphics, super action...
As for someone mentioning about borders, it\'s only the cut-scene that has black borders to give it a movie-like feel. The game is in full screen(unless you\'re talking about PAL version which I\'ve no idea).
The graphic quality is simply astounding..the real-time rendered background looks as good(if not better) than those pre-rendered backgrounds in Omnimusha and the character control scheme is way much better.
Omnimusha is also a good game, but face the same control problems of RE. Consider this: RE( many puzzles, little action), Omnimusha(few puzzles, more action), DMC(minimum puzzle crap, lights, camera, ACTION!!!!!).
I highly recommend DMC to anyone who looks for a hard hitting action game with no nonsense frills adrenaline pump.
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Paul, the Pal version is seriously flawed. Dante runs 17.5% slower so it looks as if he\'s running in treacle.
Also the big and i mean BIG borders put him out of shape, he looks squashed. just with all these elemets combined
it really slows down the gameplay and it can\'t help but piss you off that it could have been avoided so eaisly.
I have to say that i liked the game but with all the above problems always plays part in the back of your mind.
It should have been a better conversion.
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That review was way harsh. I luv that game! Even though i beat it in about 4 hours there was still a lot of playing on the hard difficulty.:)
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it\'s funny, am I the only guy in europe that has a decent widescreen tv? I hear all this stuff about PAL conversions, but honestly - since Rige Racer V I didn\'t experience any that would have been bad. The speed is okay, the boarders are to a minimum - at least on my tv.
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yeah i had no probs with dmc......i loved it
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8/10 at a minimum :D Film at 11.
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I think that the majority of people who say they completed a game like DMC in six hours first time are talking complete bollocks.
Sorry, just my opinion.
Anyway, what are you looking for in a game, it\'s not a game if it makes you turn it off in frustration, it\'s just another unfinished stressful thing in your life. The learning curve was excellent, maybe a little easy but SIX HOURS!!
Sorry, but bollocks.
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I own both Onimusha and Devil may cry. I loved both games. Warlords had a great story and the polygons were awesome. But as far as action goes, DMC wins by far. Sometimes you have to take a games story a little lighter.. Common, this is a video game. I have to say though, I can\'t wait for the second Warlords. I can only imagine.... You want a long game with TONS of story that keeps you interested, get Soul Reaver 2.
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yeah i wish i bought soul reaver 2 earlier.... as its awesome!!!
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Originally posted by kopking
yeah i wish i bought soul reaver 2 earlier.... as its awesome!!!
Cool. How far along are you in the game?
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Originally posted by StAnZo
Paul, the Pal version is seriously flawed. Dante runs 17.5% slower so it looks as if he\'s running in treacle.
Also the big and i mean BIG borders put him out of shape, he looks squashed. just with all these elemets combined
it really slows down the gameplay and it can\'t help but piss you off that it could have been avoided so eaisly.
I have to say that i liked the game but with all the above problems always plays part in the back of your mind.
It should have been a better conversion.
Sorry to hear that. I guess either u have to move to a country with NTSC standard or just buy the NTSC version of the games.
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Originally posted by MPTheory
Cool. How far along are you in the game?
well ive been busy so aint played for a week, bu
****spoiler**** have gone forward in time, and gotta get to place that was blocked by the tree