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Playstation/Gaming Discussions => Gaming Discussion => Topic started by: Deadpool on April 11, 2002, 03:31:11 AM
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I don\'t think Xbox will flop. They got some solid games for Xbox. But I don\'t think they can compete with PS2. PS2 has better games. The graphics of Xbox may be a little better than PS2 but it is mostly the games that make the system. In a year or so I think every one will see if Xbox will flop.
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please see the April Console Sales Archive (http://www.psx2central.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=20516)
The xbox only sold 2k..
its over with for the xbox, when your outsold by the WSC, you pretty much done in.
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nah, bill will throw money hand over fist into the xbox
after the ultimate TV exposure, his stockholders wont like that
it better not flop, i already own one 3DO
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Originally posted by Deadpool
I don\'t think Xbox will flop. They got some solid games for Xbox. But I don\'t think they can compete with PS2. PS2 has better games. The graphics of Xbox may be a little better than PS2 but it is mostly the games that make the system. In a year or so I think every one will see if Xbox will flop.
well to be 100% honest
i don\'t thank any of the new Consoles will Flop (PS2 X box and NGC)
ho and P.s.
Did anyone else just click on the thread because they though it was a topic about something Pornographic or was it JUST me ?
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i pretty much click on every topic hoping its pornographic..
teamXbox fulfilled my desires a few weeks back :)
and a COMPLETE flop is unlikely.. i\'d still like to see them pull out of the console business next gen tho.. not gonna happen :(
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The X-Box won\'t flop. Them sales figures are from Japan remember and that says it all. They haven\'t even got Halo there.
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The Japanese don\'t even care about FP games. I think that Halo and eventually Metroid Prime will fail there.
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Originally posted by Blade
The Japanese don\'t even care about FP games. I think that Halo and eventually Metroid Prime will fail there.
There were actually quite a few Japanese gamers that were anticipating HALO. I believe it was #17...
It wont be enough to give the Xbox an edge, though.
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Nu: Well..
Biohazard fluctuated from #1 to #5 in the Top 10 most anticipated games in Japan, and it sold 150-200K.
I blame shortages for some of that performance.. but it goes to show you that a highly-anticipated game isn\'t necessarily going to do good. Remember that Biohazard was working with a 1.3 million userbase, while Xbox has under 200K people to sell Halo to.
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... Good point...
XBOX = TEH D00MED!!1
... :shy:
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Hehe, I didn\'t say that. ;)
I\'m just saying, if you put 2 and 2 together (FPS\'s + Japan) you get Halo being a so-so seller if not a flop.
Personally, I hope that Halo kicks ass over there so the Japanese can start embracing first-person adventures. If Halo does very well and sells 100K+ Xbox\'s, it might influence Japanese developers like Capcom, Konami, and Sega to make top-notch efforts in the genre.
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Originally posted by Blade
Hehe, I didn\'t say that. ;)
But I did. :)
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Originally posted by Chrono
please see the April Console Sales Archive (http://www.psx2central.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=20516)
The xbox only sold 2k..
its over with for the xbox, when your outsold by the WSC, you pretty much done in.
Oh please would you shut up. So it\'s not even been there that long and you say it\'s over already. At least give the console a damn year to see how it does before you say it\'s over.
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ehhe, it might not be around in a year
/me ducks and hides
:)
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X-box has M$ backing it so it flopping is very unlikely. Also its been out for only 5 months... lets not jump to any conclusions.
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Originally posted by Vapor Snake
X-box has M$ backing it so it flopping is very unlikely. Also its been out for only 5 months... lets not jump to any conclusions.
yeah your right
M$ can back any Failing Project !
i mean just look at Windows ME ;)
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or ultimate TV
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Originally posted by mm
ehhe, it might not be around in a year
/me ducks and hides
:)
Well XBOX is a great system with great games. I love it. I am glad I purchased one and hope to see it around for time to come. It has all the potential in the world and should not be disregarded.
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It has all the potential in the world and should not be disregarded.
*cough*
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Blade....why did you cough?
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Boy\'s, boy\'s boy\'s, flop smlop. with upcoming games like:
1. The thing
2. Superman
3. Midtown madness 3
4. crimson Skies
5. Moto GP
6.Fellowship of the ring
7.Pro Race Driver
8.Spiderman
9.Prisoner of war
10. Star Wars Nights of the old Republic
And the 2003 round of sports titles to name only a few. I think the Xbox will do just fine. That said if it died tomorrow I would be happy playing the games I already have.
PS: I just bought NCAA2K2, NFL2K2, NHL2K, for my dreamcast. That system flopped and i am still enjoying it.
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Originally posted by NPYYZ
Boy\'s, boy\'s boy\'s, flop smlop. with upcoming games like:
1. The thing
2. Superman
3. Midtown madness 3
4. crimson Skies
5. Moto GP
6.Fellowship of the ring
7.Pro Race Driver
8.Spiderman
9.Prisoner of war
10. Star Wars Nights of the old Republic
And the 2003 round of sports titles to name only a few. I think the Xbox will do just fine. That said if it died tomorrow I would be happy playing the games I already have.
PS: I just bought NCAA2K2, NFL2K2, NHL2K, for my dreamcast. That system flopped and i am still enjoying it.
There isnt a single one of those games that appeals to me, not one. Oh well, only time will tell if it\'ll flop or not.....
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...............NYYPZ which of those games are accually well-known? Which are going to be great? Which of them have hype?
None. Well....except the Star Wars if its the one im thinking of. Although it may not have hype its looks great.
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Originally posted by ooseven
yeah your right
M$ can back any Failing Project !
i mean just look at Windows ME ;)
Testify Brother ooseven, testify! Windows ME is CRAP!I was foolish enough to have gateway load it on my new PC I bought from them......Strike 2! gateways SUX....Proprietary Stuff Sux! BAck to the subject......I had an Atari Jaguar when it was Semi-popular and then the PSone and the N64 came out and it went the way of the 3DO.....
:hat:ScottyJ:hat:
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Originally posted by NPYYZ
Boy\'s, boy\'s boy\'s, flop smlop. with upcoming games like:
1. The thing
2. Superman
3. Midtown madness 3
4. crimson Skies
5. Moto GP
6.Fellowship of the ring
7.Pro Race Driver
8.Spiderman
9.Prisoner of war
10. Star Wars Nights of the old Republic
:laughing:
yeah.. those games\'ll save it..
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xbox hasn\'t got that many great games, take away Halo and see what you are left with
and even Halo is overated IMO
I wonder what M$ pulls out of their ass at e3, I hope they do better than last year
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Originally posted by Rick
There isnt a single one of those games that appeals to me, not one. Oh well, only time will tell if it\'ll flop or not.....
Wow, I am a bit surprised to see no one has any interest in any of the games i mentioned. I am looking forward to them, yeah some may suck, but i am sure at least a handfull will be decent games.
What type of games are you people interested in? I hope it\'s not more of the lame skateboarding and snowboarding, not to mention borded to death fighting games your looking for.
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its those snowboarding, skateboarding and fighting games that actually might save it :)
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yeah, they cant rely on 30 frames per second shooters to carry them to the finish line
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Originally posted by mm
yeah, they cant rely on 30 frames per second shooters to carry them to the finish line
Not true if they all are as good as halo
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yeah, i\'d be bored to death then
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The titles that may have some potential in pulling Xbox out of its\' grave are exclusive and/or big name titles...
Project Ego, Enclave, Duality, Strident, Panzer Dragoon, Halo 2, Unreal Championship, Doom 3, Quake IV, Brute Force, Soul Calibur 2, Sega GT, Dino Crisis 3...among some others.
All the above are reasons I bought one and why I won\'t regret the purchase if it does in fact go under...
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Project Ego, Enclave, Duality, Strident, Panzer Dragoon, Halo 2, Unreal Championship, Doom 3, Quake IV, Brute Force, Soul Calibur 2, Sega GT, Dino Crisis 3...among some others.
Why is it when I look at this list, all I think of is PC
perhaps its cause thats what most of the titles are with the exception of a few sega games, which who knows may be canceled by the time they come to light, and Soul Caliber 2 which is mulitplatform, and the Only non-sega exclusive japaneese game.. Dino Crisis 3 which nobody has heard of in months.
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and, from what I just read..
if you expect Panzer Dragoon to help the japaneese situation.. your dead wrong.
The last game in the series had horrible sales in japan..
sales in the USA were not much better, its a cult game
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Originally posted by Metal_Gear_Ray
xbox hasn\'t got that many great games, take away Halo and see what you are left with
and even Halo is overated IMO
I wonder what M$ pulls out of their ass at e3, I hope they do better than last year
That\'s you bias opinion. I happen to love Doa3,NFL Fever, Mad Dash racing, Project gotham, and JSRF just to name some titles.
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Originally posted by Chrono
Why is it when I look at this list, all I think of is PC
perhaps its cause thats what most of the titles are with the exception of a few sega games, which who knows may be canceled by the time they come to light, and Soul Caliber 2 which is mulitplatform, and the Only non-sega exclusive japaneese game.. Dino Crisis 3 which nobody has heard of in months.
Umm a console and a pc are two different things. Every gamer doesn\'t like pc games. And most pc games look like crap compared to console games. Just because a game is a fps you automaticly have to say pc?
That\'s stupid. So a console can\'t have a fps or it\'s pc\'ish. Man you freaking ppl kill me.
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Just because a game is a fps you automaticly have to say pc?
You tottally missed my point,
I say PC beacuse the games is/will be ON THE PC.. how hard is that to understand.. lol :laughing:
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Originally posted by Chrono
You tottally missed my point,
I say PC beacuse the games is/will be ON THE PC.. how hard is that to understand.. lol :laughing:
So and whats your point? Not everyone plays pc games. I like fps and like them on consoles. There are many other gamers out there that like fps on console. I don\'t care if it\'s on pc or not. That\'s why I bought a console to play games I like on a console.
I would supose thats why every other gamer buys a console.
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But you see Q most people in the world own a PC and with most games on the X-Box coming or already on the the PC whats the point buying an (IMO) overpriced system when you already own a PC?
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Originally posted by cloud345
But you see Q most people in the world own a PC and with most games on the X-Box coming or already on the the PC whats the point buying an (IMO) overpriced system when you already own a PC?
Yes but most ppl aren\'t into pc games like they are into console games. Madden is on ps2 and it\'s on pc so what your not going to buy a ps2 because madden will be on pc? Ppl buy a console to play games they like on a console fps or not.
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My view: The Xbox\'s PC-esque nature is something of a con for me.
If I had the money, I\'d go with the PS2 as a brother to my GCN due to my already owning a PC.
That\'s just the way it is for me. The Xbox has great exclusives and console-esque games, but with so many PC developers working on future releases.. I can\'t help but think that buying Xbox would be like buying another PC.
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Chrono, I always knew you as a sensible guy, so what\'s up with all this senseless bashing of XBox?
Panzer Dragoon RPG sold pretty well for being on Saturn in Japan, the other two in the series racked up a half a million each. In America, the first two did as well as they could.
XBox has great games coming, no doubt about it. People always say "Take away Halo and what do you got?"
What about GC with SSBM (blech.)
or PS2 and GTA3 (and recently VF4, yay!)? not much. (IMO)
the big titles for this year I can see will be:
Dino Crisis 3, Panzer Dragoon O, Crazy Taxi 3, Shenmue II, Project Ego, Morrowind, Sega GT 2002, MoH AA, PSO (if it makes it out this year), and Soul Calibur 2.
I will be willing to bet that SC2 does better on XBox than it will on GC, but not PS2. People who believe MS and it\'s third parties have thrown out all they have got in the first 4 months of the year are ridiculous. There is plenty coming, along with the new controller for the whiners (or wieners :)) like mm.
Eric Jacob
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cloud345, if you can prove that even half of the games on or coming to XBox are already on or coming out for PC, than I will leave forever. Your comment is completely without base.
PS2 has Deus Ex, NOLF (coming soon), Baldurs Gate, Everquest (coming), Commandos 2 (coming), etc.
and don\'t be stupid and name crap like Madden, THPS3, etc. that are on other consoles, too.
Eric Jacob
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Originally posted by Chrono
Why is it when I look at this list, all I think of is PC
perhaps its cause thats what most of the titles are with the exception of a few sega games, which who knows may be canceled by the time they come to light, and Soul Caliber 2 which is mulitplatform, and the Only non-sega exclusive japaneese game.. Dino Crisis 3 which nobody has heard of in months.
Besides Doom or Quake...which of the titles I mentioned have been announced for PC?
And I didn\'t argue whether they were exclusive or not...being that the Xbox is getting some big name titles is important.
And personally, I\'d play the console version over PC any day...PC gaming, bah!!
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panzer dragoon saga was only a limited release in the US
50,000 units
thats why the game goes for $200+ in mint condition on ebay
its considered the holy grail of console gaming
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Originally posted by Ginko
The titles that may have some potential in pulling Xbox out of its\' grave are exclusive and/or big name titles...
Project Ego, Enclave, Duality, Strident, Panzer Dragoon, Halo 2, Unreal Championship, Doom 3, Quake IV, Brute Force, Soul Calibur 2, Sega GT, Dino Crisis 3...among some others.
All the above are reasons I bought one and why I won\'t regret the purchase if it does in fact go under...
something tells me that
Unreal Championship, Doom 3, Quake IV
will NOT be XBOX Exclusive !
*edit*
i Take that back
errrrrrrr sorry my bad
I didn\'t see your other reply
are we cool
:shy: :shy:
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I personally hate Xbox and I hope it flops very badly, it has no really solid games like PS2 does. But it won\'t be flopping any soon because of the people who think it great. PS2 RULES!
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:rolleyes:
angry cause mom wouldnt buy you one, huh?
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Originally posted by ooseven
something tells me that
Unreal Championship, Doom 3, Quake IV
will NOT be XBOX Exclusive !
I think Unreal Championship will be...it\'s being built ground up for the Xbox. Although I would think it easy to port to PC given a powerful enough computer...
*edit*
i Take that back
errrrrrrr sorry my bad
I didn\'t see your other reply
are we cool
:cool:
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Originally posted by Deadpool
I personally hate Xbox and I hope it flops very badly, it has no really solid games like PS2 does.
Define "solid" game...
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Paid $100 for PD: Saga on eBay...
Can\'t play it anymore because my battery died and I can\'t save any games...
AAARRRGGGHHHH!!!!!
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Go down to your local Walgreens or Radio Shack and get a battery then!
Eric Jacob
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Good idea...
I didn\'t even know they still sell this stuff...
What kinda battery is it?
Too lazy to look it up.
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I could look, but I am too lazy. Big Quarter-sized one, though.
Eric Jacob