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Title: Microsoft rock the UK!!!!! A third thread. FREE GAMES.
Post by: RichG on April 18, 2002, 10:41:10 AM
First they delever true PAL 60 gaming and now they have cut the price. Not only this they are offering two games and a free controller to the original peeps who bought the console.

Seriously Sony and there broken machines, crappy customer survices, leaked memos etc can go screw themselves.

Microsoft is offically a decent company in my book.

/me is seriously considering getting an X-Box.
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Post by: ooseven on April 18, 2002, 10:44:23 AM
:rolleyes: yeah they are Just Great ! :rolleyes:

i mean this desision is nothing to do with the fact that the Gamecube is launched in 14 days.

:rolleyes:
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Post by: Tyrant on April 18, 2002, 11:08:08 AM
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Originally posted by ooseven
:rolleyes: yeah they are Just Great ! :rolleyes:

i mean this desision is nothing to do with the fact that the Gamecube is launched in 14 days.

:rolleyes:

just what i wanted to say, it seems microsoft is running scared from mario and his little pikmin friends:laughing: .
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Post by: ooseven on April 18, 2002, 11:17:44 AM
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Originally posted by Tyrant_246

just what i wanted to say, it seems microsoft is running scared from mario and his little pikmin friends:laughing: .


Well preorder sales have ready out performed the UK X box preorder sales.

;)

Also me has already preorded a NGC !
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Post by: Nu on April 18, 2002, 11:38:00 AM
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Originally posted by RichG
Seriously Sony and there broken machines, crappy customer survices, leaked memos etc can go screw themselves.

My ass is pwettiful.

* Nu does a lil\' jig.
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Post by: BizioEE on April 18, 2002, 01:46:54 PM
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Originally posted by ooseven



Also me has already preorded a NGC !


Can\'t wait for my pal GCN...but I can\'t buy it on May:( ...

Hope XBox will sell more and more now...a lot of my friends are waiting for the price drop...
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Post by: RichG on April 18, 2002, 03:17:36 PM
Hah 00seven missing the point.

X-Box dropping price cause of Gamecube.

Microsoft giving compensation to people who bought console.

We all know which statement I was hyped about. I mean most other companies wouldn\'t give a crap about whether previous customers had spent more.

You got to remember I don\'t support a company. Im not a fanboy. Im just saying the truth. What Microsoft have done is great esp when most companies treat the UK like rubbish.
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Post by: mm on April 18, 2002, 03:30:36 PM
m$ isnt doing YOU as a customer any favors

they are trying to make money

dont sugarcoat it
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Post by: Heretic on April 18, 2002, 07:16:55 PM
make money?

trying to save their boney ass is more like it.

Not refunding launch folk would have meant sure death in Euro
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Post by: Ginko on April 18, 2002, 07:36:00 PM
What did they drop the price to?

Is it at least competitive now?

Is it only MS first party titles that are free?

Could this be the first thing MS has done right?

;)
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Post by: ooseven on April 19, 2002, 12:34:32 AM
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Originally posted by RichG
Hah 00seven missing the point.



Shure i am :rolleyes:

i mean just dropping your Price 5 weeks after launch is Such a Good sing :rolleyes:


sorry but I think that this desision was more of PANIC than actual planning.

M$ U Turn as they feal the treat from two cheaper consoles.

the PS2 and NGC.
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Post by: RichG on April 19, 2002, 03:21:18 AM
No your right mate. They have dropped the price cause the console is doing craply. I mean they wouldn\'t have if it was selling.


Buuuuuuuuut... Forget that for a second, im saying Microsoft are great for rewarding the customers who paid the original price. I can\'t see Sony ever doing something like that. Hell I still ain\'t got my demo disc from them which you get when you register.
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Post by: ooseven on April 19, 2002, 03:28:53 AM
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Originally posted by RichG
No your right mate. They have dropped the price cause the console is doing craply. I mean they wouldn\'t have if it was selling.


Buuuuuuuuut... Forget that for a second, im saying Microsoft are great for rewarding the customers who paid the original price. I can\'t see Sony ever doing something like that. Hell I still ain\'t got my demo disc from them which you get when you register.



Two points

point 1 on SONY )i think it woul of bankcrupt them if they did it after the Japanese launch what with the  1 Million sales in just a week

could you imagine what whould happen if they lowered the price  5 weeks after that launch :ekk: thats a lot of YEN

Point 2 on MS ) i think this is just a shameful PR stunt.. after all if you think of it the sales were very crappy, so they don\'t have to refund too many people here in PAL\'s ville ;)
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Post by: mm on April 19, 2002, 03:58:13 AM
sony has repaid you with A+ title after A+ title
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Post by: Samwise on April 19, 2002, 04:29:53 AM
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Originally posted by Ginko
What did they drop the price to?
Some €299, which is about $265. Here in good old Denmark the three consoles (Xbox, PS2 and GCN) will now be priced similarly.

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Is it only MS first party titles that are free?
Yep.

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Could this be the first thing MS has done right?
Forced to would be a better word. It has barely been released a month before they cut the price severly. I\'m not complaining tho\'. :)
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Post by: ooseven on April 19, 2002, 04:31:45 AM
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Originally posted by Samwise
Forced to would be a better word. It has barely been released a month before they cut the price severly. I\'m not complaining tho\'. :)


which means more money for you to spend on both Beer and PORN

Woot :fro: :thepimp: :nerd:
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Post by: mm on April 19, 2002, 04:58:41 AM
im still amazed that someone could have the audacity to call m$ a decent company

tell that to oracle or netscape
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Post by: Riku on April 19, 2002, 05:32:40 AM
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Originally posted by mm
sony has repaid you with A+ title after A+ title


Let\'s see, A+ games from Sony or Sony 1st party...Jak and Daxter with it\'s tried and true gameplay.  That\'s all I can think of...

Everything else is from third party...if it weren\'t on PS2 it would be somewhere else.

Sony in-house still=crap IMO.

Giving away two free games and a controller is a very nice way of saying "we fukked up"...and it could lead to a much needed recovery.
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Post by: mm on April 19, 2002, 05:42:12 AM
nope, m$ is doing what it does to small competitors in the PC world

it buys them, their buying you for two games and a controller to give you CTS

m$ will spend so much cash, it funny
they say thier in this for the long run, and i believe them
the REAL LONG run

i dont see m$ bringing any A+ 1st party games to the table

if they werent on PS2, they would be selling 1/10th or less of what they are
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Post by: Riku on April 19, 2002, 05:49:38 AM
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Originally posted by mm
nope, m$ is doing what it does to small competitors in the PC world

it buys them


I think you are referring to Bungie...I believe that Bungie approached them.

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m$ will spend so much cash, its pathetic


Like Sony didn\'t?  I\'m sure it cost alot of money to secure FF as an exclusive all these years along with Tomb Raider, WipEout (for the most part)...And then buying Naughtydog...

They do what they have to...

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i dont see m$ bringing any A+ 1st party games to the table


OMG, here it goes...name some A+ first party titles that were available withing the first 6 months of the PS2\'s life.  For that matter, name them within a year...

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if they werent on PS2, they would be selling 1/10th or less of what they are


True, but fact is Sony didn\'t bring them to you...
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Post by: Heretic on April 19, 2002, 08:36:23 AM
Sony in house games:
TMB
GT3
Dark Cloud
ICO

Not all AAA but far from crap
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Post by: mm on April 19, 2002, 10:44:31 AM
thank you heretic

and how can we compare what PS2 did 2 years ago in its 1st six months

expect more, and dont make excuses for the xbox
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Post by: Riku on April 19, 2002, 05:32:16 PM
PS2 launched March 2000 in Japan...I\'m not sure when Dark Cloud came out, I believe that summer.  But TMB, GT3, and ICO came out after the year mark...

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and how can we compare what PS2 did 2 years ago in its 1st six months


Considering its\' predecessors\' success, I expected much more...

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expect more, and dont make excuses for the xbox


Expect more from a brand new company to the market that\'s earning (buying, whatever) it\'s developers and establishing itself?

Or expect more from Sony?  I\'ve been waiting for quite some time on that one...
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Post by: mm on April 19, 2002, 06:22:48 PM
riku, to argue with you is pointless. we\'ll just keep walking the lines we walk

one of ours though, will end far before the other

xbox is just hovering above the dissapointment level
im sorry if you refuse to acknowledge that
xbox just isnt "teh PS2 killah", huh?
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Post by: Riku on April 20, 2002, 02:38:54 PM
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one of ours though, will end far before the other


I have both PS2 and Xbox...I\'m not worried either way.  

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xbox is just hovering above the dissapointment level
im sorry if you refuse to acknowledge that
xbox just isnt "teh PS2 killah", huh?


Refuse?  I\'m not disappointed yet...I\'m not blown away either.  

Currently I\'m not blown away or satisfied with PS2, Xbox, or GC.  There is still a bit of life left in each of them, so I\'m not going to blantantly ***** about them in the manner you do...
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Post by: mm on April 20, 2002, 05:18:04 PM
there\'s alot of life left in all of them
actually, the PS2 has roughly two years less life then the others as PS3 is next

but we can agree on one thing
im not satisfied on any of my 3 either
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Post by: Riku on April 20, 2002, 05:21:21 PM
I actually believe PS2 can/will hold its\' own for however long the competition chooses to stand ground.

Although I think it would be wise for Sony to come out a little ahead of the competition as to firmly plant one foot in the ground...
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Post by: mm on April 20, 2002, 05:36:04 PM
they already have both feet in the ground
sony completely owns and dominates the console market

lets say PS3, xbox2 and GC2 do happen to launch at the same time

not even worth considering who will take 1st place
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Post by: Riku on April 20, 2002, 05:44:32 PM
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Originally posted by mm
they already have both feet in the ground
sony completely owns and dominates the console market


Due to the fact that its\' competition was a dying console.  It had a two year window, that and a humongous hype train fueled it to were it is today and will most likely keep it ahead.

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lets say PS3, xbox2 and GC2 do happen to launch at the same time


Then it would depend soley on the software available.  Why would you buy X console with no appealing games when Y console has a great lineup?

All three companies will have brand recognition/appeal and that will also play a big part.  I don\'t know what any of the companies have planned in the next 3-4 years that could affect the opinions of millions.
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Post by: mm on April 20, 2002, 05:54:42 PM
so yer not denying that sony runs the show?
what hype machine for PS2?

they had a proven track record with the PS1
they were a company with NO gaming experience and took control

nintendo had it with the SNES, but pissed it away with the lame N64

m$ has the PC market mentality which will keep them in 3rd place this generation
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Post by: Riku on April 20, 2002, 06:07:46 PM
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so yer not denying that sony runs the show?


Absolutely not...

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what hype machine for PS2?


The PS was a MAJOR success...it was bound to have follow up success.  

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they had a proven track record with the PS2
they were a company with NO gaming experience and took control


They came out at an opportune time.  SNES and Genesis days were long gone.  Saturn was disappointing and expensive with little to play...N64 was sitting on the sideline... Sony was in the right place at the right time.  Things just fell into place...

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nintendo had it with the SNES, but pissed it away with the lame N64


Mediocore competition...Nintendo fukked up with catridges and its\' stingy approach to quality over quantity...

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m$ has the PC market mentality which will keep them in 3rd place this generation


That and they are going against 2 behemoths with exceptional machines...they must pull out all the stops if the expect to compete in the next round.
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Post by: mm on April 20, 2002, 06:16:26 PM
rikku, you think just like me, ya know

just less sadistic

:)
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Post by: Riku on April 20, 2002, 06:22:19 PM
gets a warm fuzzy feeling

:)
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just less sadistic


give me time...
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Post by: mm on April 20, 2002, 06:43:03 PM
yeah,  i used to be very open and excited about gaming
now, im just bitter and easily dissapointed in everything
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Post by: QuDDus on April 20, 2002, 07:44:42 PM
Who ever is *****ing about this needs to shut up. I mean how can you see this as negative? Free stuff is always good and what other console company gives away free ****? Just quit "bleeping" trying to make everything MS does look negative.
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Post by: mm on April 20, 2002, 08:38:53 PM
no need to try

they just do it so easily
i wonder how many M$ employees lost thier job cause of this fiasco
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Post by: Riku on April 21, 2002, 08:45:06 AM
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Originally posted by QuDDus
Who ever is *****ing about this needs to shut up. I mean how can you see this as negative? Free stuff is always good and what other console company gives away free ****? Just quit "bleeping" trying to make everything MS does look negative.


It\'s that MS went in and thought they could charge a ridiculous amount of money for their machine and now they are paying for it.  

They were a little to over confident, things like this are good because it makes the company step back and reevalute there plans...

Free stuff is good for us...Bad for MS.
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Post by: mm on April 21, 2002, 10:58:17 AM
i totally agree

i love to see m$ struggle
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Post by: RichG on April 22, 2002, 11:03:58 AM
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Originally posted by Rikku


It\'s that MS went in and thought they could charge a ridiculous amount of money for their machine and now they are paying for it.  

They were a little to over confident, things like this are good because it makes the company step back and reevalute there plans...

Free stuff is good for us...Bad for MS.


It was the same price which was charged for the PS2 when it was launched!
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Post by: QuDDus on April 22, 2002, 01:21:42 PM
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Originally posted by Rikku


It\'s that MS went in and thought they could charge a ridiculous amount of money for their machine and now they are paying for it.  

They were a little to over confident, things like this are good because it makes the company step back and reevalute there plans...

Free stuff is good for us...Bad for MS.


You act as If ps2 wasen\'t the same price when it launched. And for all you get with xbox it should be that price, but if they need to lower prices to compete then thats what they have to do. End of story no matter what happens nobody on this forum gets a got damn dime from sony or ms so I really don\'t see why ppl take it so personnal.
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Post by: EmperorRob on April 22, 2002, 01:58:52 PM
X has a couple games I"ve got my eye on but they need much more to even come close to being worth what I paid for one.
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Post by: Heretic on April 22, 2002, 01:59:37 PM
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Originally posted by QuDDus


nobody on this forum gets a got damn dime from sony or ms so I really don\'t see why ppl take it so personnal.


The only one who seems to be taking it personally is you QuDDus. Lighten up
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Post by: QuDDus on April 22, 2002, 05:42:23 PM
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The only one who seems to be taking it personally is you QuDDus. Lighten up


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Post by: Ashford on April 23, 2002, 09:55:32 AM
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they were a company with NO gaming experience and took control


Actually, they did have gaming experience but not console experience. Remember those awful games in the 16-bit era?

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yeah, i used to be very open and excited about gaming
now, im just bitter and easily dissapointed in everything


Same here. Thats why only ONE game will get me to buy any new console in the future.

Shenmoooo-ooo-ooo-oo-oo!!!!!

And if Resident Evil were to also appear, that would be an added bonus.

I\'ll just play dead consoles for now.
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Post by: CS2x on April 23, 2002, 01:34:30 PM
Hello? I remember being VERY pissed off with my PS2 when I first got it, for £300, and with NO good games 2 years ago. Now, it has good games, but when it came it it was overpriced (like X-box) and had NO good games (er.....almost like X-box, except for the fabulous Halo and Project Gotham Racing)....
...so don\'t bicth about Microsoft...I don\'t like them much either, but everyone seems to forget the faulty PS2s, the lack of good games, the IMMENSE hype, and the DISSAPPOINTMENT of the PS2 launch.
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Post by: Heretic on April 23, 2002, 02:12:53 PM
Hello?

Is it that everyone has forgotten the PS2 launch disappointment or that not everyone agrees? Keep in mind, you\'re the one who in a recent thread thought everyone should admit MGS2 was a disappointment as well. Not much support for that, was there?

The difference with xbox is it launched against lower priced competition having a much better selection of games. It doesn\'t take a wizard to see a problem with that scenario.
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Post by: ooseven on April 24, 2002, 01:07:48 AM
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Originally posted by CS2x
Hello? I remember being VERY pissed off with my PS2 when I first got it, for £300, and with NO good games 2 years ago. Now, it has good games, but when it came it it was overpriced (like X-box) and had NO good games (er.....almost like X-box, except for the fabulous Halo and Project Gotham Racing)....
...so don\'t bicth about Microsoft...I don\'t like them much either, but everyone seems to forget the faulty PS2s, the lack of good games, the IMMENSE hype, and the DISSAPPOINTMENT of the PS2 launch.


True..but the big difference is that the X box Hasn\'t got 2 years to prove its self, if they have any hope left for catching the PS2 then they need to sell both consoles and Games at a much greater rate than the Ps2 is doing now(if it is not already too late to catch them that is as the PS2 is out selling the X box 40 to 1 in Japan alone).
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Post by: mm on April 24, 2002, 02:34:14 AM
as bitter as i may be, im not ignorant like some others around here

i TOTALLY enjoyed the PS2 launch
kessen, dynasty warriors 2, SSX, TTT, madden 2001, summoner

i dont see the lack of games

anyhoo, nothing compares to the DC launch, R.I.P
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Post by: Hawke on April 24, 2002, 11:49:15 AM
Right now, many stores are selling XBoxes for 325 euros here in finland, and most (not sure if all) are bundling in Mad Dash Racing. I just might fall for it if they changed that to some interesting game. Say... err... like... ummm.... ahh forget it...
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Post by: mm on April 24, 2002, 11:56:43 AM
yeah, i played mad dash racing for about 3 minutes

im wondering if the developer is kicking themselves in the junk for ditching the PS2 and going xbox only.  i often wonder if oddworld is thinking the same thing