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Playstation/Gaming Discussions => Gaming Discussion => Topic started by: mm on April 24, 2002, 02:38:59 AM
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funny how morrorwind is coming out on PC 1st and xbox 2nd
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Originally posted by mm
funny how morrorwind is coming out on PC 1st and xbox 2nd
//me puts on the anti flame suit
yeah it is funny :laughing:
;)
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Whats so funny?
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are these screens supposed to be impressive..?
far as i can tell, that racing game screen shot looks little better than the first Ridge Racer 5 screens that were released when the PS2 was announced... surprisingly similar actually..
i mean, at least Ridge Racer 5 doesnt have the same tree/bush combinations over and over again..
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but the draw distance is nice.. dont get me wrong, it is alot better than Ridge Racer.. but just from one pic i would give GT3 the edge :)
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Originally posted by QuDDus
Whats so funny?
it wasn\'t a console or PC thing that i founf funny
it was the thought of M$$$ Zelots going bright RED with Anger after they read what mm said.
:hold::hold::mad: :mad:
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I agree with Bob... those two screens don\'t look too impressive at all. The first picture does look very similar to Ridge Racer V - just with no aliasing and a much higer resolution. The detail on the road is quite nice, but the buildings look pretty underwhelming, especially I would want to see some nice reflections which seem to be absent. The second pic is even less impressive, especially with the weak textures that remind me of Timesplitters (especially the floor). I will agree that with time the PC will look better graphically than the current consoles available - but that\'s how technology progresses, isn\'t it?
I don\'t see the PC outshinning the console in fun or pure entertainment any time soon if ever. There\'s nothing more fun than sitting with your friends infront of a big tv (or Plasma tv) and enjoying fun classics.
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ridge racer 5? yer joking
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Ugh!
GT3?
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nice 60 FPS, but how much did they have to sacrifice?
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This is GT3 :)
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nice 60 FPS, but how much did they have to sacrifice?
Not much.. Its more like what they didn’t [have time to] put it.. Considering its only using 25% of PS2s potential ;)
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...and just to add; GT3 looks better in motion - and we all experienced how it feels like driving with a RUF Porsche on the wet course at over 300 km/h... Pretty damn amazing.
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i think they forgot to put the textures on that 1st pic
and the 2nd pic is NOWHERE near the quality of the one i posted
dont get me wrong, GT3 is a great racing game, but too many graphical flaws for my tastes
i guess my Gf4 has tainted me with 4x AA
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Originally posted by mm
i think they forgot to put the textures on that 1st pic
and the 2nd pic is NOWHERE near the quality of the one i posted
dont get me wrong, GT3 is a great racing game, but too many graphical flaws for my tastes
i guess my Gf4 has tainted me with 4x AA
These screens were grabbed via the AV output on the back. Not via the framebuffer like those PC screens.
Framebuffer > AV output
Here is a Framebuffer screen of GT3 :)
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i understand that
but im still not impressed
textures - bland
car detail - bland
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Originally posted by mm
i understand that
but im still not impressed
textures - bland
car detail - bland
You forgot IMO ;)
Btw.. Car details? Wtf?
GT3 has the most detailed cars in any game..
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IMHO, the cars look better in GT3 (including detail):
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Quite nice detail on the road.. and the reflections on the road are stunning.
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Check the backlights of the PC car racer, looks pretty bland to me. The overall textures on the cars aren\'t too impressive either. The PC Racer might have impressive AA and high res textures on everything else, but I would want to see how it looks in motion first. GT3 just has lots of effects involved.. realtime reflections on cars and buildings - the pic you posted just looks.. mmh, different. The detail is imense though, and the PC will always blow consoles away in resolution.
BTW: while we\'re speaking of detail: check the buildings in your pic. Might be colorful and pretty - but it hardly looks better than Ridge Racer V in those terms. GT3 has real time reflections on them aswell... (nicely seen in the Tokyo course).
EDIT: GT3 has problems in some courses which look graphically qiute disappointing. (Like the first screen Fast posted) - those are due to time issues - the other courses like Toyko which look much better clearly prove this.
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Originally posted by seven
BTW: while we\'re speaking of detail: check the buildings in your pic. Might be colorful and pretty - but it hardly looks better than Ridge Racer V in those terms. GT3 has real time reflections on them aswell...
Yeah, drive by that SCEI building on the Tokyo Level in GT3 and you can actually see the other buildings reflecting on the glass.
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Personally I think consoles will always hold the edge over PC gaming simply because it is more fun to lay back on your sofa and play in front of a big screen TV then it is to sit at your computer desk looking at a 17" monitor. Who cares if the games run better on the computer - it just isnt as relaxing and fun. I stare at a computer all day at work - I dont want to stare at one at home.
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by the way MM; at least the PC racer doesn\'t have that "blur" problem *cough* Rallisport *cough*
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Originally posted by ooseven
it wasn\'t a console or PC thing that i founf funny
it was the thought of M$$$ Zelots going bright RED with Anger after they read what mm said.
:hold::hold::mad: :mad:
I don\'t see why anyone would get mad over what some else says about a console. It\'s not like there opinions are taken highly by any console maker, or has any effect on the gaming community.
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ehhe, blur
another pro racer pic i found [PC version of course]
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hey mm when you say blur you mean the blur in the distance or like the ones on the cars?
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Originally posted by mm
ehhe, blur
another pro racer pic i found [PC version of course]
So far it looks playable to me. And gamespot has the worst pics all there pics never do any game justice.
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i shouldnt have to point out the nasty blur in this pic
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im joking, shoot me!
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Ok now I see looks like crup
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its just very distracting
anyone whos played rallisport must have noticed that they used bumpmapping on the ground around YOUR car and blurred out the rest of the track in front of you
just look at that pic and youll see
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Seven and Fastson,the pics you posted are replay with the exception of the second...and replay look better...you know...
GT3 is the best racing game ever(my opinion) and sure one of the best game for PS2...it does not need your defence,above all if it comes from 2 biased members like you...
GT3 is not perfect graphically...low res textures,shimmering and even a little pop-up...but who does care...
About RR5,it looks like crap...don\'t be pathetic....
mm,I know your thread is a joke:)...PC and Console gaming are too different to be compared...there\'s not a real winner...though I prefer 10x console gaming!
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Originally posted by BizioEE
Seven and Fastson,the pics you posted are replay with the exception of the second...and replay look better...you know...
Nah.. I posted a ingame shot (the first one).. But it was taken via AV Out (remember Framebuffer > AV Out)
I tried to find ingame screens taken via the framebuffer but I didnt find any..
Ingame (AV-Out)
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Replay looks better? Yes it uses different angles that you dont see while racing.. Its the same car models, the same backgrounds as ingame.
above all if it comes from 2 biased members like you...
You\'re unbiased right? :rolleyes:
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sure a lot more than you and seven...I spend nice words for GCN and PS2 too...you and seven are 2 PS2 zealots...you never spend and haven\'t spent any nice words for other console,with some few exceptions in 4000 posts...anything else?
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Originally posted by BizioEE
sure a lot more than you and seven...I spend nice words for GCN and PS2 too...you and seven are 2 PS2 zealots...you never spend and haven\'t spent any nice words for other console,with some few exceptions in 4000 posts...anything else?
I favour PS2.. I think everyone knows that..
I don’t pretend to be unbiased (like you)
You used to be pro-PS2.. Then all of a sudden you turned 180 degrees and start to bash PS2 in almost every thread. Yet you go on and pretend to be unbiased.
Will that do for an answer sweetie?
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Originally posted by fastson
I favour PS2.. I think everyone knows that..
I don’t pretend to be unbiased (like you)
You used to be pro-PS2.. Then all of a sudden you turned 180 degrees and start to bash PS2 in almost every thread. Yet you go on and pretend to be unbiased.
Will that do for an answer sweetie?
you favour PS2? don\'t make me laugh...you\'re a sony tool...
...I like XBox,GCN and even PS2...but you think I bash it when I say it\'s technically inferior to both GCN and XBox....
I never started a PS2 bashing thread in all my 1200 posts...and you? don\'t be pathetic fastson and get a life!
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Originally posted by BizioEE
you favour PS2? don\'t make me laugh...you\'re a sony tool...
If thats what you think.. Okidoki.
...I like XBox,GCN and even PS2...but you think I bash it when I say it\'s technically inferior to both GCN and XBox....
No.. When you thread after thread find something to nag about.
I never started a PS2 bashing thread in all my 1200 posts...and you?
No I have never made a PS2 bashing thread.. :)
don\'t be pathetic fastson and get a life!
I have a life, thank-you-very-much. :)
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and thanks to both of you for ruining my great console bashing thread
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