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Title: Go watch Spider-Man. That\'s all I gotta say.
Post by: GmanJoe on May 03, 2002, 11:03:27 PM
Well....I will say this :

It was true to the first episode of Spidey.

It was a great story.

The graphics were great....though gravity seemed to pull Spidey down too quickly in their CG action scenes. In other areas, gravity seems almost non-existant. :)
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Post by: Agnino on May 04, 2002, 04:28:28 AM
This movie looks cool, have to see it when it is out here :)
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Post by: soundifound on May 04, 2002, 07:05:02 AM
Good movie, saw it last night.
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Post by: FatalXception on May 04, 2002, 08:56:40 AM
Very true to the original.  I like it when they make a 2:10 movie, rather than cut important stuff out.

Like he said, go see it.  \'nuff said.
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Post by: jinxx on May 04, 2002, 09:01:57 PM
I had a choice of seeing the movie or going to prom with a really cool girl. I chose the prom. Hell I can see the movir later.
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Post by: Rishi on May 04, 2002, 11:09:10 PM
What the hell do you mean true to the first episode? Spiderman is a comic....
Also , it was not true to the comic sin many ways although it kept hte spirit of the comic.
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Post by: luckee on May 04, 2002, 11:24:04 PM
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Originally posted by Rishi
What the hell do you mean true to the first episode? Spiderman is a comic....
Also , it was not true to the comic sin many ways although it kept hte spirit of the comic.


Comics are sometimes referred to as episodes as well.
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Post by: Rishi on May 05, 2002, 12:48:49 AM
No they aren\'t.
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Post by: luckee on May 05, 2002, 01:10:22 AM
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Originally posted by Rishi
No they aren\'t.


yes..you are o-so correct :rolleyes: what ever you want to believe is true...just stop posting. ssssh
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Post by: MaXiMaN on May 05, 2002, 01:20:17 AM
I\'ll go see it! it looks too cool to miss!
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Post by: SER on May 05, 2002, 01:45:29 AM
Was supposed to see it on opening night but tickets were pre sold a few days before and they were all sold out. I\'m going to try to see it again next Friday, when the hype sort of goes down.
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Post by: Zolar on May 05, 2002, 04:00:52 AM
It was true to the first episode of the early 70\'s cartoon by Trilium Productions and Marvel.  I\'m guess I\'m preety old, but I have all the classic episodes on video.  They show the old series on the teletoon channel.  It\'s an Hour long program called Retro Teletoon- 1/2 hour episode of Spiderman followed by a 1/2 hour episode of the Hulk-(which is realy old!  I think it\'s the mid 60\'s I\'m guessing.
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Post by: mm on May 05, 2002, 04:26:13 AM
saw it last night

pretty good action scenes

WAY too much dialog, zzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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Post by: GmanJoe on May 05, 2002, 05:18:13 AM
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Originally posted by Rishi
What the hell do you mean true to the first episode? Spiderman is a comic....
Also , it was not true to the comic sin many ways although it kept hte spirit of the comic.


I used to watch Spider-Man in the early 70\'s. Their first episode, which was a re-run at the time, was quite similar to the movie. The only difference was, in the animated episode, Peter Parker made his own web slinging gadget.
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Post by: luckee on May 05, 2002, 11:28:14 AM
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Originally posted by serrano007
Was supposed to see it on opening night but tickets were pre sold a few days before and they were all sold out. I\'m going to try to see it again next Friday, when the hype sort of goes down.


heh..thats what happend to me, might try to see it tonight. Im just not the biggest fan of getting to places hours early and camping out lol... I\'ll see it when I see it.

stupidlivinginstupidovercrowedareasI\'dliketoshowthemathingortwostupidppl
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Post by: Tom on May 05, 2002, 02:44:45 PM
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Originally posted by GmanJoe


I used to watch Spider-Man in the early 70\'s. Their first episode, which was a re-run at the time, was quite similar to the movie. The only difference was, in the animated episode, Peter Parker made his own web slinging gadget.


Yeah, his web shooters were made to spray inorganic webbing. He never had any webbing powers. Kinda gross, but still kinda cool the way they made it in the movie.
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Post by: Rishi on May 05, 2002, 06:02:21 PM
See luckee , he was referring to a cartoon not a comic , moron.
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Post by: luckee on May 05, 2002, 06:17:28 PM
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Originally posted by Rishi
See luckee , he was referring to a cartoon not a comic , moron.



Great job with the insult ace!!! I am soooo hurt now............

I knew about the show..but that doesnt change what I said about the comic,moron........
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Post by: GmanJoe on May 05, 2002, 07:44:04 PM
Comics do have "episodes". Batman has had stories in which he travels to another area outside of his usual habitat. Sometimes referred as an Episode, for its distinction from the usual storyline.
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Post by: luckee on May 05, 2002, 09:34:33 PM
opps
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Post by: KillaX on May 06, 2002, 03:07:42 AM
yeah and it made $114 Million this weekend alone!
I\'ll go and watch it this weekend....hopefully with my new girlfriend if she says yes......




:hat:ScottyJ:hat:
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Post by: Joker on May 06, 2002, 03:17:08 AM
I saw it opening night, while I had to wait 3 hrs in line to get INTO the theaater...I bought my tickets a week earlier.

it was totally worth it! I\'m a HUGE comic book fan and even tho in teh comics it didn\'t have MJ in the Scenario where the movie takes place it was still an amazing movie that lived up to the hype I created in my mind.

go and see it, you\'ll have a lot of fun!  :)
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Post by: MPTheory on May 06, 2002, 06:39:40 AM
Yeah, I seen it twice this weekend.  I loved the movie.  Cant wait till the Hulk comes out now!
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Post by: kopking on May 06, 2002, 11:33:12 AM
yeah i cant wait for this film!!!!



but what he hashis wn webbing???? i thought he made something, and he would always run out, or they broke at the wrong time, when he needed them the most
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Post by: Coredweller on May 06, 2002, 11:52:24 AM
Spider-Man records:

Biggest three day opening weekend ever.  Estimated at $114 million, "but some executives at rival studios said this was a conservative estimate, and would likely go higher."  (Previous records:  "Harry Potter," $90.3 million, "Jurassic Park: The Lost World," $90.2 million.)

Fastest film to reach $100 million.  (Previous records, "Harry Potter" and "Star Wars Episode I" both took five days.)

Two biggest single days in boxoffice history:  Friday 5/3/02 = $39.3 million.  Saturday 5/4/02 = $43.7 million.  First time a film has ever grossed more than $40 million in one day.  (Previous record:  "Harry Potter," $33.5 million, which was the ONLY other film to take in more than $30 million in one day).

More than twice Sony\'s previous best opening weekend, "Men in Black" which took in $51.1 million on it\'s opening in 1997.
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Post by: Tom on May 06, 2002, 01:36:11 PM
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Originally posted by kopking
yeah i cant wait for this film!!!!



but what he hashis wn webbing???? i thought he made something, and he would always run out, or they broke at the wrong time, when he needed them the most


In the comics (and cartoons, games, etc.) Peter Parker created "web-shooters", or guantlets that could spray webbing, after he figured that "Spider-Man" needed some sort of web. In the movie, this is changed. Parker develops an organic webbing that secretes from his wrists. Why they did that, I dunno, but it\'s kinda cool.
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Post by: GmanJoe on May 06, 2002, 02:01:07 PM
Peter Parker was still in high school. A bit much for a 12th grade graduate to come up with a gadget like that, so they decided to make the spider bit even more lethal and make him have the ability to spin his own organic web. :p All he needs are 6 more eyes and 4 more limbs and he\'ll truly be a spider man..... :D
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Post by: slick on May 06, 2002, 03:42:49 PM
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Originally posted by GmanJoe
Peter Parker was still in high school. A bit much for a 12th grade graduate to come up with a gadget like that, so they decided to make the spider bit even more lethal and make him have the ability to spin his own organic web. :p All he needs are 6 more eyes and 4 more limbs and he\'ll truly be a spider man..... :D


just came back from watching it, sold out this weekend, so went today after an exam.
possible spoiler...
even though he was in the 12th grade, he was suppose to be a genius or something, so there is a chance he could have made a gadget that shoots out the web stuff, but just remember the characteristics of the spiders that he was (**SPOILER** bitten by **SPOILER**).
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Post by: kopking on May 07, 2002, 01:21:21 PM
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Originally posted by GmanJoe
Peter Parker was still in high school. A bit much for a 12th grade graduate to come up with a gadget like that, so they decided to make the spider bit even more lethal and make him have the ability to spin his own organic web. :p All he needs are 6 more eyes and 4 more limbs and he\'ll truly be a spider man..... :D





if i rember correctely that does happen, i mean he grows 4 more arms etc.... hes called man spider, as he has no powers but looks like a spider, and he gives the disease to ermmmmm the vulctor or someting!!!!
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Post by: Tom on May 07, 2002, 03:26:01 PM
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Originally posted by kopking





if i rember correctely that does happen, i mean he grows 4 more arms etc.... hes called man spider, as he has no powers but looks like a spider, and he gives the disease to ermmmmm the vulctor or someting!!!!


Right-o. I think this "saga" also featured the punisher. And is a teenage genius who can create web-shooters any less believeable than a radioactive Spider-Man? :D
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Post by: kopking on May 08, 2002, 01:37:08 PM
lol i guess so, but its just that in the cartoon ts one thng, and in all the other crappy films he made them...but i wasnt sure if he made them in this, or if he had them come out of his hand....





they also change stuff inx-men, in how rouge got her powers
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Post by: Living-In-Clip on May 09, 2002, 05:47:59 AM
It sucked.

Thanks,
The Management.
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Post by: kopking on May 09, 2002, 11:20:45 AM
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Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
It sucked.

Thanks,
The Management.






why didnt you like it..... with no spoilers
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Post by: Cerberus on May 10, 2002, 01:34:25 AM
According to the paper yesterday, it\'s absolutely packed with continuity errors.
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Post by: mjps21983 on May 10, 2002, 05:56:40 AM
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Originally posted by Jaye_Bennington
According to the paper yesterday, it\'s absolutely packed with continuity errors.


Like what????
If you are gonna say something like this, support your conviction, don\'t just leave us hanging thinking, how the hell does he know this, then we tend not to believe ya if you don\'t support your statement with any evidence or proof.
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Post by: videoholic on May 10, 2002, 07:44:39 AM
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Originally posted by Coredweller
Spider-Man records:

Biggest three day opening weekend ever.  Estimated at $114 million, "but some executives at rival studios said this was a conservative estimate, and would likely go higher."  (Previous records:  "Harry Potter," $90.3 million, "Jurassic Park: The Lost World," $90.2 million.)

Fastest film to reach $100 million.  (Previous records, "Harry Potter" and "Star Wars Episode I" both took five days.)

Two biggest single days in boxoffice history:  Friday 5/3/02 = $39.3 million.  Saturday 5/4/02 = $43.7 million.  First time a film has ever grossed more than $40 million in one day.  (Previous record:  "Harry Potter," $33.5 million, which was the ONLY other film to take in more than $30 million in one day).

More than twice Sony\'s previous best opening weekend, "Men in Black" which took in $51.1 million on it\'s opening in 1997.



This tells me two things.  They are charging too much damn money to get into the theaters and there are too many freaking screens out there now.  They just pack Spidey on 4 screens in one cineplex.  My God.   It\'s almost like you could go to a theater and the main movie will play every 15 minutes.


And as for Tobey Maguire.  Please do not ever let that guy do a junket again.  He is the worst interview ever.  Good they get a more boring guy to be spidey?

Still haven\'t seen the movie yet, although I really want to.  Anyone want to babysit?
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Post by: MPTheory on May 10, 2002, 08:29:32 AM
The movie was good... as far as any continuity errors go, I didnt notice any... Not that I was looking for them.. I was to busy ENJOYING THE MOVIE!  some people have nothing better to do then find simple little flaws in a move (Which obviously has more positive then negative feedback).  Its a comic book story. I dont know if anyone noticed, but before the opening credits, you see in big bold letters MARVEL.  I heard someone on the radio, doggin the movie for its lack of reality.... How the hell are you gonna dislike a comic book movie because of its lack of reality???
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Post by: Sublimesjg on May 10, 2002, 08:44:02 AM
yea i think it was pretty good and they could have always changed more to make it really different but what they did change didnt cause much more of an effect on the movie

overall it was a great film and i personally enjoyed almost every minute of it
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Post by: Cerberus on May 10, 2002, 12:42:35 PM
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Originally posted by mjps21983


Like what????


SPIDER-MAN\'S uncle, Ben Parker, talks about being laid off "after 23 years as the head electrician." Later he makes a hash of stripping an electrical cord. No wonder they laid him off.

PETER Parker attempts to climb a building for the first time but his clothes hang forward, a clear sign the scene was filmed with him crawling along a floor.

IN the same scene his shoes are different when he is on the wall compared to when he is on the roof.

PETER runs out to catch a bus with a backpack over his shoulder. In the next scene it disappears. His hair is flat and sweaty after running, but when he\'s tripped by a fellow student, his hair is suddenly blow dried and perfect.

HE shoots his web, smashing a bedroom lamp. Seconds later the lamp is back on the dresser in one piece.

SPIDER-MAN throws two people through a window. Moments later the window is intact.

THE owner of a newspaper firm talks about how he thinks Spider-Man is a criminal. A woman to the right of him is holding an envelope which disappears and reappears again.

PETER is talking to Mary Jane outside a diner. The same man walks across the background three or four times. In the same scene, a black car also makes a few passes.

TOWARDS the end of the movie a cable car has Universal Pictures on its side. When you see the car the second time, it says Roosevelt Line.

IN a scene where Peter is chasing a robber, the robber is holding the gun in his left hand and carrying the money bag in his right. In the next shot you see him load a clip into the gun with the bag in his left hand and the gun in his right.

WHEN Peter is learning about his new improved eyesight, he takes off and puts on his glasses a few times. The screen turns fuzzy - but what you see through the glasses should be fuzzy, not the area around the glasses.

MARY Jane\'s knickers stick out above her trousers as she walks towards Peter, seconds later they disappear.

AT school, Peter dumps the food tray on Flash. His shirt is covered with food, but in the next scene Flash\'s shirt is clean.

IN one scene a tram filled with kids is in danger. The kids are yelling, but the adult behind them isn\'t yelling and looks bored.

IN every other version of Spider-Man - comics, cartoons, films, games - Spider-Man gets his web from web cartridges, not his wrists.

Also, if he could shoot web from his wrists, how is it that he can shoot through clothing without making a hole?

HARRY talks to Mary Jane on the phone. She hangs up on him and his mobile phone produces a dial tone. Mobiles do not have a dial tone.

DURING a fight between Peter and the man who kills Ben, the killer has a gun in his hand. After being knocked around he loses his gun and produces a switch knife from his pocket. But in the next shot he has the gun in his hand again.

A BALCONY at a youth festival collapses, and Harry Osborne is struck on the left side of his head by falling debris. In the scene following this, Harry has a bandage on the RIGHT side of his head.

JUST before the Green Goblin takes off his mask at the end, his visors are up, allowing his eyes to be seen. But after he dies, the visor is down.

MARY Jane is holding a martini glass in her hand as she talks to Harry. In the rest of the scene she is holding a champagne glass.

AUNT May suffers three small cuts on her face after a blast. Later, the cuts have changed position.

IN the school canteen Peter notices a fork stuck to his hand. His spider bite has vanished, but in the next scene it\'s back.

DURING the wrestling scene a cage is lowered around the ring for the match. The announcer instructs the assistants to lock the doors of the cage. There are no doors.

WHEN Peter and Mary Jane are talking outside the diner, her trenchcoat collar is first lying flat, then is tucked in, then is flat.

NORMAN Osborn (Willem Dafoe) prepares for the supersoldier experiment and is seen wearing a watch on his left hand. When he removes his shirt, the watch isn\'t there.

PETER Parker looks at Mary Jane and Harry Osborne on the balcony. All three people, especially Parker, appear with their hair parted on one side, then the other, and then back again.

MARY Jane is seen closing her jacket in the diner, but when she turns around it\'s open.

PETER leaves a house with Uncle Ben. When Ben gives him a ride to the Library, Peter has nothing in his hands. When he leaves the car, he\'s carrying a brown paper bag.

I can\'t verify these errors, as I haven\'t seen the film.

But maybe those of you have seen/ or are about to see it could keep your eyes open.
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Post by: kopking on May 10, 2002, 01:06:13 PM
yeah i read somewhere that it has real bad errors.its called contionuality ( spelt wrong)
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Post by: shockwaves on May 10, 2002, 01:30:30 PM
Well, those errors may have existed, but they were all minor enough that I didn\'t notice them.  The only thing I noticed was that his web didn\'t come from cartridges like in the comics, but that was something they contiously changed.  Other than that, it was very true to the comic books, right down to the way Green Goblin dies.
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Post by: Joker on May 10, 2002, 01:31:16 PM
I\'ve seen the movie a few times and I can tell you that some of those are easily explainable.

But the post is so huge it\'d take me a while and effort to go through the ones  that can be legitified (is that a word?). Anyways, I got the time...but not the effort :)
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Post by: Coredweller on May 10, 2002, 02:52:15 PM
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Originally posted by shockwaves
Other than that, it was very true to the comic books, right down to the way Green Goblin dies.
Actually there were many other departures from the original comic book story, but it remained more faithful than just about any other movie based on a comic character.  Examples:

In the comic, it was Gwen Stacey, not Mary Jane Watson, who was captured by the Green Goblin, carried to a tower of the Washington bridge, and thrown off.  There was no conflict between "saving the girl or saving the cable car full of children."  Spiderman managed to catch Gwen before she hit bottom, but she died anyway.

In the comic, Harry Osbourne goes temporarily crazy after dropping acid, and Norman Obsbourne blames Parker/Spiderman for his son\'s situation.  I don\'t have all the details, but that wasn\'t in the movie.
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Post by: Tom on May 10, 2002, 04:30:36 PM
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Originally posted by Coredweller
Actually there were many other departures from the original comic book story, but it remained more faithful than just about any other movie based on a comic character.  Examples:

In the comic, it was Gwen Stacey, not Mary Jane Watson, who was captured by the Green Goblin, carried to a tower of the Washington bridge, and thrown off.  There was no conflict between "saving the girl or saving the cable car full of children."  Spiderman managed to catch Gwen before she hit bottom, but she died anyway.

In the comic, Harry Osbourne goes temporarily crazy after dropping acid, and Norman Obsbourne blames Parker/Spiderman for his son\'s situation.  I don\'t have all the details, but that wasn\'t in the movie.


Yeah, in the comics, Harry uses the procedure to become the 2nd Green Goblin. He made himself to powerful, and eventually dies from chemical poisoning, after saving Mary Jane and his son\'s life. I have that issue, should be worth something.

Eventually, Norman Osborn is revealed to be alive and well. When his gilder pierced his heart, his powers healed him. He decided to dissapear when Harry became Green Goblin, and came back, thinking Peter killed him. A whole bunch of Spidey events, including that whole clone saga, and how Peter lost his baby, are revealed to have been perpetrated by Norman. Osborn cannot be killed because of his healing factor, and he goes on a power trip, killing Ben Riley and trying to kill Peter. I have that issue as well.

In the Spider-Girl universe, Harry\'s son Norman the 2nd, becomes the 3rd and coolest looking Green Goblin.

Course, all this took place back in 97 or 98, so I don\'t know what the hell\'s been going on since then.

And those "mistakes" are just little nit-picking things that don\'t mean anything. Just watch the movie. It\'s great. :)
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Post by: nO-One on May 10, 2002, 04:50:40 PM
Well I finally saw that movie tonight.

I am a big spidey fan, but I never had a problem with him having organic webshooters in the movie, infact I\'ve always thought he should have organic ones because he\'s a kid and he can\'t just create artificial spiderweb, when the US army has spent years trying to create one.

And one thing that kinda bugged me, was he a tailor. He\'s must be when he can create a costume like that without help.

And I was kinda pissed at first that MJ was there instead of Gwen Stacy, but MJ is a much more known character than Gwen.

All in all, it was good a few things bugged me but I let them slip.
It would have been cool if Oscorps rival would have been Stark industries instead of Quest. And having Dr.Connors fire him was also cool.





ohh and one more thing, well since he developed all the spider stuff, and this time got organic webshooters...well shouldn\'t they be on his ass like on a spider?

:p
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Post by: videoholic on May 11, 2002, 03:21:51 AM
I saw the movie last night.  I\'m at the parentals this weekend, so they took care of the log.  I thought it was pretty darn good.  Wasn\'t as hokey as I thought it could have been.  Tobey did a good job as PP.  THey just need to keep that guy from doing interviews.

Theater was very empty though for a Friday night.  I guess everyone saw it last weekend here.
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Post by: Living-In-Clip on May 11, 2002, 08:01:20 AM
I\'m in the miniortiy here. I could not get over the massive flaws in the movie. What flaws, you ask?

1) The oufits was terrible. Did anyone else experience a weird moment when Spider-Man and The Green Goblin was talking to each other and you could not see their jaws move? It was very disturbing and pulled me away from the movie.

2) The CGI of Spidey swinging around was terrible. I honestly have to wonder how much money Sony invested in the CGI. There was just something terribly wrong with it.

3) Kirsten Dunst is a terrible Mary Jane.

4) They ruined the Green Goblin with this new suit. At least Dafoe done the best he could with the situation.

5) Bruce Campell should of never been in the movie.


I can come up with plenty more...I guess I will sum it up. It\'s no Superman or Batman film (the first one of each series was the best!). However, it was better than the terrible and I do mean terrible X-men movie.
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Post by: Joker on May 11, 2002, 08:09:14 AM
yeah but LIC 99.9% of the time your in the minority.
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Post by: Bozco on May 11, 2002, 08:11:44 AM
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Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
I\'m in the miniortiy here. I could not get over the massive flaws in the movie. What flaws, you ask?

1) The oufits was terrible. Did anyone else experience a weird moment when Spider-Man and The Green Goblin was talking to each other and you could not see their jaws move? It was very disturbing and pulled me away from the movie.

 



Out of the all the things there are to complain about this is one of the chief problems:rolleyes:
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Post by: mjps21983 on May 11, 2002, 09:38:20 AM
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Originally posted by Jaye_Bennington


SPIDER-MAN\'S uncle, Ben Parker, talks about being laid off "after 23 years as the head electrician." Later he makes a hash of stripping an electrical cord. No wonder they laid him off.

PETER Parker attempts to climb a building for the first time but his clothes hang forward, a clear sign the scene was filmed with him crawling along a floor.

IN the same scene his shoes are different when he is on the wall compared to when he is on the roof.

PETER runs out to catch a bus with a backpack over his shoulder. In the next scene it disappears. His hair is flat and sweaty after running, but when he\'s tripped by a fellow student, his hair is suddenly blow dried and perfect.

HE shoots his web, smashing a bedroom lamp. Seconds later the lamp is back on the dresser in one piece.

SPIDER-MAN throws two people through a window. Moments later the window is intact.

THE owner of a newspaper firm talks about how he thinks Spider-Man is a criminal. A woman to the right of him is holding an envelope which disappears and reappears again.

PETER is talking to Mary Jane outside a diner. The same man walks across the background three or four times. In the same scene, a black car also makes a few passes.

TOWARDS the end of the movie a cable car has Universal Pictures on its side. When you see the car the second time, it says Roosevelt Line.

IN a scene where Peter is chasing a robber, the robber is holding the gun in his left hand and carrying the money bag in his right. In the next shot you see him load a clip into the gun with the bag in his left hand and the gun in his right.

WHEN Peter is learning about his new improved eyesight, he takes off and puts on his glasses a few times. The screen turns fuzzy - but what you see through the glasses should be fuzzy, not the area around the glasses.

MARY Jane\'s knickers stick out above her trousers as she walks towards Peter, seconds later they disappear.

AT school, Peter dumps the food tray on Flash. His shirt is covered with food, but in the next scene Flash\'s shirt is clean.

IN one scene a tram filled with kids is in danger. The kids are yelling, but the adult behind them isn\'t yelling and looks bored.

IN every other version of Spider-Man - comics, cartoons, films, games - Spider-Man gets his web from web cartridges, not his wrists.

Also, if he could shoot web from his wrists, how is it that he can shoot through clothing without making a hole?

HARRY talks to Mary Jane on the phone. She hangs up on him and his mobile phone produces a dial tone. Mobiles do not have a dial tone.

DURING a fight between Peter and the man who kills Ben, the killer has a gun in his hand. After being knocked around he loses his gun and produces a switch knife from his pocket. But in the next shot he has the gun in his hand again.

A BALCONY at a youth festival collapses, and Harry Osborne is struck on the left side of his head by falling debris. In the scene following this, Harry has a bandage on the RIGHT side of his head.

JUST before the Green Goblin takes off his mask at the end, his visors are up, allowing his eyes to be seen. But after he dies, the visor is down.

MARY Jane is holding a martini glass in her hand as she talks to Harry. In the rest of the scene she is holding a champagne glass.

AUNT May suffers three small cuts on her face after a blast. Later, the cuts have changed position.

IN the school canteen Peter notices a fork stuck to his hand. His spider bite has vanished, but in the next scene it\'s back.

DURING the wrestling scene a cage is lowered around the ring for the match. The announcer instructs the assistants to lock the doors of the cage. There are no doors.

WHEN Peter and Mary Jane are talking outside the diner, her trenchcoat collar is first lying flat, then is tucked in, then is flat.

NORMAN Osborn (Willem Dafoe) prepares for the supersoldier experiment and is seen wearing a watch on his left hand. When he removes his shirt, the watch isn\'t there.

PETER Parker looks at Mary Jane and Harry Osborne on the balcony. All three people, especially Parker, appear with their hair parted on one side, then the other, and then back again.

MARY Jane is seen closing her jacket in the diner, but when she turns around it\'s open.

PETER leaves a house with Uncle Ben. When Ben gives him a ride to the Library, Peter has nothing in his hands. When he leaves the car, he\'s carrying a brown paper bag.

I can\'t verify these errors, as I haven\'t seen the film.

But maybe those of you have seen/ or are about to see it could keep your eyes open.


I wonder how you could sit and enjoy any movie without being bothered by little stupid things in each movie.
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Post by: Living-In-Clip on May 11, 2002, 10:33:01 AM
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Originally posted by Bobs software
yeah but LIC 99.9% of the time your in the minority.


That\'s so very true. I went and seen Panic Room the same day I saw Spider-Man and the funny thing was, everyone who went with me hated Panic Room and loved Spider-Man. However, I was on the other side of the situation, as I thought Panic Room was an excellent movie and Spider-Man was medicore.

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Out of the all the things there are to complain about this is one of the chief problems:rolleyes:

 I think it was. It was a very odd sequence that should of been noted in development. I mean, you have the two main character\'s talking to each other, yet you can\'t see them talking. This results in a very odd sequence and that just pulls the viewer away from the movie, in my humble opinion. It almost felt like a cheesey flick with bad voice overs.
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Post by: nO-One on May 11, 2002, 11:42:00 AM
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Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
I\'m in the miniortiy here. I could not get over the massive flaws in the movie. What flaws, you ask?

1) The oufits was terrible. Did anyone else experience a weird moment when Spider-Man and The Green Goblin was talking to each other and you could not see their jaws move? It was very disturbing and pulled me away from the movie.

2) The CGI of Spidey swinging around was terrible. I honestly have to wonder how much money Sony invested in the CGI. There was just something terribly wrong with it.

3) Kirsten Dunst is a terrible Mary Jane.

4) They ruined the Green Goblin with this new suit. At least Dafoe done the best he could with the situation.

5) Bruce Campell should of never been in the movie.


I can come up with plenty more...I guess I will sum it up. It\'s no Superman or Batman film (the first one of each series was the best!). However, it was better than the terrible and I do mean terrible X-men movie.


1 - well I got the same wierd feeling, however having the goblins jaws move would actually have annoyed me more, moving metal lips would just have been silly.

2 - The cgi was very good, however currently there\'s only so much you can do, a character that can move like Spiderman is pretty hard to create. It was only when he moved very fast or did some wierd moves when I felt it looked too cgi-ish.

3 - I agree there, Kirsten is someone I don\'t really like. She did the job as MJ fine, but I think there would have been someone out there who could have done the job better. A natural redhead maybe.

4 - I think the suit shouldn\'t have looked so robot-ish, but I let this one slip because it was simply more belivable to have a suit like that instead of the classic green one. I saw some concept sketches a while back, where the goblin looked like the perfect blend between the goblin and the movies robo goblin. With a touch of horror-ish spikes coming from his arms. That one would have been better I think.

5 - Bruce Campell is god, and anything he does is gold. That\'s all I have to say about that. :mad:

The thing I hated most about the spidey costume was how the black web came out of the red, it looked too out of place, if it wouldn\'t be so high it would be better, however I loved how the blue had scales instead of being completly flat.
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Post by: shockwaves on May 11, 2002, 12:53:01 PM
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Originally posted by Coredweller
Actually there were many other departures from the original comic book story, but it remained more faithful than just about any other movie based on a comic character.  Examples:

In the comic, it was Gwen Stacey, not Mary Jane Watson, who was captured by the Green Goblin, carried to a tower of the Washington bridge, and thrown off.  There was no conflict between "saving the girl or saving the cable car full of children."  Spiderman managed to catch Gwen before she hit bottom, but she died anyway.

In the comic, Harry Osbourne goes temporarily crazy after dropping acid, and Norman Obsbourne blames Parker/Spiderman for his son\'s situation.  I don\'t have all the details, but that wasn\'t in the movie.

Well, of course there were some departures from the comics, but overall, it was clear they tried to keep the movie close to the comics.  For example, in the comics, when he is impaled by his glider, it is on the bridge, not where ever they were in the movie.  And yeah, Norman Osbourne does come back to life or whatever due to his healing power, but that is later.  Remember, they are going to make more Spider Man movies, and they may deal with this in them.
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Post by: Tom on May 11, 2002, 01:18:39 PM
I haven\'t seen the movie just yet- what part does Bruce Campbell play? :(
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Post by: kopking on May 11, 2002, 02:29:43 PM
im just trying to think, is bruce campbell "ash" in evil dead films... i cant remeber....



i though that norman osborn ( the father ) was the hob gobiln, and his son harry turned into the green goblin.....



i think thats the right names
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Post by: Tom on May 11, 2002, 04:40:07 PM
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Originally posted by kopking
im just trying to think, is bruce campbell "ash" in evil dead films... i cant remeber....



i though that norman osborn ( the father ) was the hob gobiln, and his son harry turned into the green goblin.....



i think thats the right names


Nope, Hob Goblin was some guy who stumbled upon the Osborn\'s Greengoblin equipment, and modified it to become the Hobgoblin. There was also a Demogoblin who appeared during Maximum Carnage saga (one of the best, IMO), and a Jack o\' Lantern guy.

I remember Bruce Campbell was Ash in the Evil Dead series. That\'s why I was excited when he was narrating the Spider-Man game. Does he have a role in the SM movie?
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Post by: Joker on May 11, 2002, 06:18:41 PM
Bruce Campbell has the small role of the Ring Anouncer during Spider-Mans wrestling match
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Post by: kopking on May 12, 2002, 12:46:34 PM
brce campbell= narrator.. not stan lee..........??!!! in stan lee voice " well spidey fans, seems spidermn has got himself in another mess, lets see how he gets out f this" etc etc.......



i wanna see  this film soon!!!!



am i right in thinkin that gwen stacey, is blonde and later on in the comics turns into... the black cat.. or something like that.. or am i thinking of something completely different
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Post by: Joker on May 12, 2002, 03:47:02 PM
your thinking of another female character enitrely
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Post by: kopking on May 13, 2002, 11:01:56 AM
lol.... man all this alcohol, is effecting my memory
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Post by: Mr. Kennedy on May 13, 2002, 11:04:22 AM
I prefer Home viewing of movies at no cost...
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Post by: Coredweller on May 13, 2002, 11:22:35 AM
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Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
I\'m in the miniortiy here. I could not get over the massive flaws in the movie. What flaws, you ask?

1) The oufits was terrible. Did anyone else experience a weird moment when Spider-Man and The Green Goblin was talking to each other and you could not see their jaws move? It was very disturbing and pulled me away from the movie.

2) The CGI of Spidey swinging around was terrible. I honestly have to wonder how much money Sony invested in the CGI. There was just something terribly wrong with it.

3) Kirsten Dunst is a terrible Mary Jane.

4) They ruined the Green Goblin with this new suit. At least Dafoe done the best he could with the situation.

5) Bruce Campell should of never been in the movie.


I can come up with plenty more...I guess I will sum it up. It\'s no Superman or Batman film (the first one of each series was the best!). However, it was better than the terrible and I do mean terrible X-men movie.


1.  I\'d be willing to bet that the director did some tests with a different form of Green Goblin costume, with more of a mask instead of helmet.  They probably figured out that it looked silly (which it does, even in the comics) and went with the design in the movie instead.  I\'m ok with it.  I agree that the scenes where Spiderman is speaking, and his jaw does not move is pretty cheap.  Fortunately it only happens a couple times where it\'s really noticable.

2.  I had a problem with the CG character animation too.  I\'d say that 60-70% of the time it looks good or acceptable.  Around 30-40% of the time it looks very false.  All I can say is that the director and animators bit off more than they could chew on those shots.  The animations were obviously based on motion capture, but they were tweaked too much to produce these ultrafast jumps and flips.  It would have worked better if they had lowered the speed to somewhere closer to the realm of human capability.

3.  Yes.  Kristen Dunst is awful.  Almost anyone would have been better.

4.  See 1.

5.  I didn\'t even notice it was Bruce Campbell until about half way through his dialog.  I thought it was a funny touch.  No problems there.


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For example, in the comics, when he is impaled by his glider, it is on the bridge, not where ever they were in the movie.


Actually, it\'s not on the bridge.  In the comic, it happens in the Goblin\'s hidden warehouse lair.
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Post by: SEXY LADY! on May 13, 2002, 05:31:37 PM
I wanna see it....

OK who\'s going with me??
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Post by: nO-One on May 13, 2002, 05:34:22 PM
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Originally posted by DAISY DUKE
I wanna see it....

OK who\'s going with me??

Well......if nobody else is, I just might do that :p
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Post by: SEXY LADY! on May 13, 2002, 05:43:59 PM
YAY!!   I have a new buddy
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Post by: clowd on May 13, 2002, 07:16:13 PM
im sure all of you will like this movie it appeals to most
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Post by: kopking on May 14, 2002, 11:10:02 AM
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Originally posted by DAISY DUKE
I wanna see it....

OK who\'s going with me??





ill meet you at the bar
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Post by: Heat on May 14, 2002, 01:44:05 PM
i tell you what dont talk about piracy - LUKE