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Title: NO more rumors MGS on Xbox:
Post by: pstwo on May 09, 2002, 10:50:59 AM
Wooohooo!!  Can\'t wait!!  :D


http://www.xboxgamers.com/newspro/fullnews.cgi?newsid1020957943,60205,

We have just recieved confirmation that not 1 but 2 MGS games are coming to Xbox, PS2 and PC.

"KONAMI CO., LTD. computer entertainment Japan (KCEJ) held the settlement-of-accounts explanation meeting of the term ended March, 2002. In the announced data, some new work titles were announced as a strategy of this term.

"Metal Gear Solid substance" Playstation 2,Xbox,PC platforms."

And here\'s a pic of the info too:


(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fusers.skynet.be%2Ffa036594%2Fmgs.gif&hash=9a6cba5c972fbc3e842bebc03aa273da3b86c2af)

More info on this come E3 in 2 weeks. XboxGamers will have FULL coverage at E3, so stay tuned.
Title: NO more rumors MGS on Xbox:
Post by: seven on May 09, 2002, 11:08:14 AM
excuse my ignorance, but where does it say "PS2, XBox, PC"?

EDIT: don\'t worry about it. ;)
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Post by: fastson on May 09, 2002, 11:13:42 AM
Ah sweet.. MGS1 on my PS2 with the MGS2 engine.
:cool:
Title: NO more rumors MGS on Xbox:
Post by: ooseven on May 09, 2002, 11:46:13 AM
sorry to nit pick

but

(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fusers.skynet.be%2Ffa036594%2Fmgs.gif&hash=9a6cba5c972fbc3e842bebc03aa273da3b86c2af)

i take it that xboxgamers.com got a press release with that picture.

or did they just read between the lines ?


please Correct me if i am wrong

note key line is in RED ;)
Title: NO more rumors MGS on Xbox:
Post by: kopking on May 09, 2002, 11:48:28 AM
yeah where exactely does it say its coming out on xbox???
Title: NO more rumors MGS on Xbox:
Post by: nonamer on May 09, 2002, 12:23:06 PM
Were they refering to the Xbox in that pic?
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Post by: DirectXbox on May 09, 2002, 12:24:19 PM
The naysayers need more proof?
IGN Confirms It (http://xbox.ign.com/articles/358/358939p1.html)

Gamers.com backs IGN up (http://www.gamers.com/news/1145584)

My God, the internet is of some use after all...
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Post by: Blade on May 09, 2002, 12:31:16 PM
In other news, Konami is delivering 4 brand new Disney sports titles to Nintendo GameCube.. to add to their ESPN sports games for that console. That\'s all they\'ve given to the GCN, sports. I\'m beginning to hate that company..
Title: NO more rumors MGS on Xbox:
Post by: pstwo on May 09, 2002, 12:31:59 PM
:rolleyes:

http://www.gamers.com/news/1145584

Here\'s the link to GAME WATCH site.  

http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/game/docs/20020509/konami.htm

Konami Announces ZOE 2, Metal Gear Solid Substance

Konami Computer Entertainment Japan, the internal studio headed by Hideo Kojima, reveals its 2002 fiscal year lineup at Game Watch. In addition to some new tennis, BeatMania and anime-inspired games that will never see the light of day in the U.S., two massive titles were announced.

Metal Gear Solid Substance (PlayStation 2, Xbox and PC)
Although Konami offers no details on what this title entails, our sources in Japan tell us that it is a compilation remake of the first MGS, MGS2: Sons of Liberty and the VR Missions all using the MGS2 engine. Hopefully, further details will be announced at E3.
Also, Konami announced their intent to ship a brand-new MGS sequel every two years, and a "derivative title" (such as MGS Substance or MGS VR Missions) in the off years. So, that means MGS3 in 2003 and a MGS game of some sort every year![/i]
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Post by: ooseven on May 09, 2002, 12:36:01 PM
sorry to but Metal Gear Solid Substance could be this online Metal gear that Hideo has been talking about in nearly all his interviews since the launch of MGS2.
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Post by: Simchoy on May 09, 2002, 12:53:04 PM
Confirms that Metal Gear something is coming to the Xbox. But like it has been stated before, could be an multiplayer online game of Metal Gear (which isn\'t a bad thing. But it isn\'t that MGSX that every Xbox fanboy has been trying to pound us about).
Title: NO more rumors MGS on Xbox:
Post by: Metal_Gear_Ray on May 09, 2002, 02:29:06 PM
I dont know what that means but..

don\'t believe a word unless it come sout of hideos mouth ;)
Title: NO more rumors MGS on Xbox:
Post by: jm on May 09, 2002, 03:49:44 PM
I\'m sorry if people\'s intelligence isn\'t as lightening fast as yours is, DirectXbox. Perhaps you mis-read the part where someone questioned pstwo\'s blurb on MGS. :rolleyes:
Title: NO more rumors MGS on Xbox:
Post by: mm on May 09, 2002, 04:29:46 PM
here\'s a thought

who cares?

/me goes back to resident evil
Title: NO more rumors MGS on Xbox:
Post by: M4 on May 09, 2002, 04:33:16 PM
Xboxgamers is a friggen joke.

But IGN\'s confirmed it too. So, that\'s good.
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Post by: cloud345 on May 10, 2002, 11:37:37 AM
Ign is a friggin joke but gamers.com is good.
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  The question is will this sell some X-Boxs? I dont think so. IF someone wanted a MGS2 there would be no reason to buy a X-Box when its already on PS2 and most gamers prefer PS2\'s gaming selection over X-boxes so if they bought a PS2 they could get MGS2 and get some other games they would like. But if in Europe then X-Box may be an ok choice because of the price drop.




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May 09, 2002 - As part of its most recent financial report, Konami of Japan revealed that the next MGS game will be entitled Metal Gear Solid 2: Substance , and be developed for PlayStation 2, Xbox, and PC. The release includes specific news of major new titles, including "a second and third original title to follow on our Metal Gear Solid series," and "new original titles" bearing the Z.O.E brand.

Titles derived from the Metal Gear Solid series are to be released for multiple platforms, although the report seems to distinguish between "sequels" and "derivative titles." New sequels in the series are to be released every two years. Meanwhile, new games in the Zone of Enders franchise are being developed with worldwide release expressly in mind.

Aside from those major announcements, the release indicates plans to continue Konami JPN\'s successful exploitation of character-based franchises, including Konami\'s own Yu-Gi-Oh franchise and anime licenses such as Hikaru no Go and Tennis no Oji-sama, to produce titles for Gamecube, PlayStation, and Game Boy Advance. Altogether, the company plans to release 49 titles in the fiscal year ending March 2003.

Look forward to further news on Konami JPN\'s future plans, particularly new Metal Gear Solid and Z.O.E games, at the upcoming Electronic Entertainment Expo.
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The most important part of that article is its also coming to PS2......can X-Box fanboys still brag about their MGS2:Substance?
Title: NO more rumors MGS on Xbox:
Post by: Bossieman on May 10, 2002, 01:53:58 PM
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Title: NO more rumors MGS on Xbox:
Post by: QuDDus on May 10, 2002, 04:02:05 PM
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Originally posted by mm
here\'s a thought

who cares?

/me goes back to resident evil



I agree with MM:eek:

And why is everyone so scared of MGS coming on Xbox?? I mean 2 sites confirm that is it is. Jeesh you ppl:nerd:
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Post by: QuDDus on May 10, 2002, 04:07:04 PM
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Originally posted by cloud345
Ign is a friggin joke but gamers.com is good.
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  The question is will this sell some X-Boxs? I dont think so. IF someone wanted a MGS2 there would be no reason to buy a X-Box when its already on PS2 and most gamers prefer PS2\'s gaming selection over X-boxes so if they bought a PS2 they could get MGS2 and get some other games they would like. But if in Europe then X-Box may be an ok choice because of the price drop.














The most important part of that article is its also coming to PS2......can X-Box fanboys still brag about their MGS2:Substance?



Just let it go. Jeesh the game is coming we don\'t need a long reply from you on why you think it won\'t matter.  It\'s coming just let it go. The game is coming if ppl want it they will buy it end of story.
Title: NO more rumors MGS on Xbox:
Post by: Ginko on May 10, 2002, 04:11:53 PM
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The most important part of that article is its also coming to PS2......can X-Box fanboys still brag about their MGS2:Substance?


I actually believe this is more important for Xbox...it\'s a very strong 3rd party who is making a game for what everyone seems to think is a dead console...and it\'s sure to have enhancements/exclusives that seem to be signature in Xbox ports.

While an exclusive MGS would be nice, I don\'t think it would impact sales of the Xbox in a significant degree.  The MGS games will just make a nice addition to the growing library of games...

It\'s quite impressive how some of you die hard PS2 fanboys are trying to make this seem like anything but good news...
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Post by: Bobs_Hardware on May 10, 2002, 11:38:51 PM
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Originally posted by QuDDus



Just let it go. Jeesh the game is coming we don\'t need a long reply from you on why you think it won\'t matter.  It\'s coming just let it go. The game is coming if ppl want it they will buy it end of story.


yeah but cloud is only 11 years old, so yunno :)
Title: NO more rumors MGS on Xbox:
Post by: PahnCrD on May 11, 2002, 12:57:24 AM
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Originally posted by Ginko


I actually believe this is more important for Xbox...it\'s a very strong 3rd party who is making a game for what everyone seems to think is a dead console...and it\'s sure to have enhancements/exclusives that seem to be signature in Xbox ports.

While an exclusive MGS would be nice, I don\'t think it would impact sales of the Xbox in a significant degree.  The MGS games will just make a nice addition to the growing library of games...

It\'s quite impressive how some of you die hard PS2 fanboys are trying to make this seem like anything but good news...



I don\'t want my Xbox to die.. freakin\' expensive paper weight.  Besides, MS seems pretty serious about giving them away if thats what it takes to get one in every home.  

Caurse\' on the other hand Sony still can\'t make PS2s fast enough... I wonder if Billy G.  is regretting his move into console gaminf yet.
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Post by: ooseven on May 11, 2002, 02:04:21 AM
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Originally posted by PahnCrD
I wonder if Billy G.  is regretting his move into console gaminf yet.


Yet ? :rolleyes:

//me thinks he already has

;)
Title: NO more rumors MGS on Xbox:
Post by: Ryu on May 11, 2002, 08:10:18 AM
THis is great news.  It\'s what I always wanted.  I think it will be hard for them to port the control scheme over to the XBox, but a few sacrifices here and there and everything will be fine, namely the pressure sensitive buttons that are not featured on the XBox controller.  Still though, this is EXCELLENT news.  THey\'ll have to revamp all the levels in Metal Gear Solid to make it tougher for players with the advantaged of the new enhancements to win.  The tank hangar would be much too easy a task with the FPV shooting mode.  Who knows WHAT they\'ll do to revampe this beauty of a game. :D
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Post by: PahnCrD on May 11, 2002, 09:53:44 AM
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Originally posted by Ryu
THis is great news.  It\'s what I always wanted.  I think it will be hard for them to port the control scheme over to the XBox, but a few sacrifices here and there and everything will be fine, namely the pressure sensitive buttons that are not featured on the XBox controller.  Still though, this is EXCELLENT news.  THey\'ll have to revamp all the levels in Metal Gear Solid to make it tougher for players with the advantaged of the new enhancements to win.  The tank hangar would be much too easy a task with the FPV shooting mode.  Who knows WHAT they\'ll do to revampe this beauty of a game. :D



Actually the Xbox controller does have preasure sensitive buttons.  So the controls shouldn\'t be a problem.  Ya know if your hands gigantic.
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Post by: seven on May 11, 2002, 10:12:29 AM
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Originally posted by PahnCrD

Actually the Xbox controller does have preasure sensitive buttons.  So the controls shouldn\'t be a problem.  Ya know if your hands gigantic.


Not all off them. Not enough for MGS2 anyway..
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Post by: fastson on May 11, 2002, 10:46:53 AM
PS2 Pressure sensitive buttons:
L1, L2, R1, R2, X, Square, Triangle, Circle, [D-pad] Up, Down, Left, Right

MGS2 uses Square for aim and fire.. If you hold it loose he doesn’t fire, hard he shoots.
L2, R2 to lean left and right.. Hard he leans more, soft he leans less. L2+R2 together and snake stretch so he can look up over obstacles.
Title: NO more rumors MGS on Xbox:
Post by: PahnCrD on May 11, 2002, 02:54:16 PM
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Originally posted by seven


Not all off them. Not enough for MGS2 anyway..



Just look it up on the web... all six buttons and shoulder buttons are analog.

heres one link

http://www.xboxgamers.com/hardware/controllers/index.shtml

and another

http://www.xbox.com/system/Xbox+Game+Controller.htm

what makes you think they aren\'t anyway.
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Post by: Ginko on May 11, 2002, 03:53:32 PM
Don\'t bother Pahn...seven lost his ability to reason when he sold his soul to Sony...

He will no doubt try to counter your reply with something he\'s heard from a reliable source (Sony) or one of their first parties:rolleyes:
Title: NO more rumors MGS on Xbox:
Post by: Ryu on May 11, 2002, 04:04:18 PM
Actually, this is the first I have heard of the X-Box having pressure sensitive buttons, other than the analog triggers.  Please, tell me more.
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Post by: seven on May 11, 2002, 04:30:59 PM
the first time I hear it too. I wonder if Microsoft changed it, because I remember a discussion on this some time ago (I think after the first rumours of MGSX). In that case, it shouldn\'t be a problem at all.
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Post by: PahnCrD on May 11, 2002, 04:38:35 PM
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Originally posted by Ryu
Actually, this is the first I have heard of the X-Box having pressure sensitive buttons, other than the analog triggers.  Please, tell me more.



Well... basically they\'re the same as PS2s controllers buttons with 256 degrees of sensitivity.  But from my experience they tend to be a little harder to push, and that begins to put little painful impressions in the tips of my fingers.


Ya know.. it probably sounds like I am a MS fanboy, but really I still like my PS2 best.  Its just I like any good gaming experience I can find.
Title: NO more rumors MGS on Xbox:
Post by: Ginko on May 11, 2002, 05:11:44 PM
Controller S buttons are a bit more easier to push and reach for that matter...
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Post by: Ryu on May 11, 2002, 08:09:30 PM
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Well... basically they\'re the same as PS2s controllers buttons with 256 degrees of sensitivity. But from my experience they tend to be a little harder to push, and that begins to put little painful impressions in the tips of my fingers.


What games use them because I have not heard of one that does.  It\'s usually a feature that is announced and utilized with a game to actually make it a feature, that\'s probably why I don\'t even know about it.
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Post by: PahnCrD on May 11, 2002, 11:34:38 PM
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Originally posted by Ryu


What games use them because I have not heard of one that does.  It\'s usually a feature that is announced and utilized with a game to actually make it a feature, that\'s probably why I don\'t even know about it.



Shoot... non ethat I know of, though that doesn\'t mean there aren\'t any.  Most games so far haven\'t had any need to require them.
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Post by: PS2_-'_'-_PS2 on May 12, 2002, 09:33:53 AM
cool :p
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Post by: pstwo on May 12, 2002, 12:58:03 PM
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Actually, this is the first I have heard of the X-Box having pressure sensitive buttons


I had no idea that the Xbox had pressure sensitive buttons too untill the day I got wreckless.  When playing the game when using the the zoom in view its pressure sensitive.  The more down the button the more zoom in view happens.
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Post by: ooseven on May 13, 2002, 02:07:43 AM
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Originally posted by Ryu


What games use them because I have not heard of one that does.  It\'s usually a feature that is announced and utilized with a game to actually make it a feature, that\'s probably why I don\'t even know about it.


errr

sorry Ryu but your wrong........  MGS2 uses it

for example it meassures the pressure on the buttons through out the game. eps in Hold ups and shooting long distance in 1st person mode.

if you hammer the button the shoot is far less accurate, but if you gently squezze the button it will land bang on target.

Also GT3 uses it

ISS uses it

and a whole host of others.

P.s.

if you want to know which ones do or don\'t then read the manual,as it usualy tells you in there if it is implimented.
Title: NO more rumors MGS on Xbox:
Post by: mm on May 13, 2002, 02:43:25 AM
real men dont use manuals
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Post by: Bobs_Hardware on May 13, 2002, 04:28:30 AM
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Originally posted by ooseven


errr

sorry Ryu but your wrong........  MGS2 uses it

for example it meassures the pressure on the buttons through out the game. eps in Hold ups and shooting long distance in 1st person mode.

if you hammer the button the shoot is far less accurate, but if you gently squezze the button it will land bang on target.

Also GT3 uses it

ISS uses it

and a whole host of others.

P.s.

if you want to know which ones do or don\'t then read the manual,as it usualy tells you in there if it is implimented.


he\'s referring to Xbox games you twit  :)
Title: NO more rumors MGS on Xbox:
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it is a game war on prices lol
:laughing: will Sony playstaytion 2 follow
Title: NO more rumors MGS on Xbox:
Post by: mm on May 13, 2002, 05:51:22 AM
they dont have to

tells ya something when a product gets marked down 33% after being around less than 6 months
Title: NO more rumors MGS on Xbox:
Post by: ooseven on May 13, 2002, 10:03:19 AM
here goes i am going to counter attack and get 2 with one post,

Hey mm real mean do need manuals ;) wimp....

and Bobs_hardware the Phrae "people in glass houses " :rolleyes:

;)

:p

j/k



*me dodges shoes thrown by mm and Bobs_hardware*
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Post by: Toxical on May 15, 2002, 12:45:38 PM
Are ye all blind? That ariticle stated they are planning more ZOE games, after playing this again one more time, (i\'m nutty that way) i have strong opinions on this game. IT IS FREAKING TOO SHORT, and leaves you empty and just scratching your head WTF just happened. :rolleyes:   The graphics were nice, but the game sucked, and the voice acting, my god !!!!! and they blame kids for going ape-sh!t after playing video games  :laughing: :eek: