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Non Gaming Discussions => Off-Topic => Topic started by: theomen on May 09, 2002, 10:08:11 PM
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What are your picks for the current series\'?
Kings vs Mavericks
Lakers vs Spurs
Nets vs Hornets
Pistons vs Celtics
I\'m gonna take the kings in 5, Lakers in 5 Nets in 6 and Celtics in 7. The Celts are my dark horse.
BTW damn that Kings Mavs series is good, it has high scoring, drama, flashy plays, it has it all. And god bless Doug Christie, and Mike Bibby, for game 3.
so far I haven\'t missed a single play during a Kings game.
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Mavs, Lakers, Nets, Celtics.
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The Utah Jazz!!
Oh, nevermind...
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Originally posted by G. A.
Mavs, Lakers, Nets, Celtics.
Same here!!!
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Mavs in 7
Lakers in 6
Pistons in 7
Nets in 6
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not sure on Mavs and Kings, but I want the Mavs
Spurs, they have shut the fans of the lakers in their home court along with that dumbass Barkly (pft! :rolleyes: )
Nets most definately
Celtics in a long series
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Mavs and Kings series is really good. I like the up tempo game. I\'m going for Mavs.. They can probably take it all the way IMO.
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GO MAVS!!!! WOOO!!!!! I HATE THE LAKERS!!! WOOO!!!!!
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Originally posted by serrano007
Mavs and Kings series is really good. I like the up tempo game. I\'m going for Mavs.. They can probably take it all the way IMO.
I am rooting for the Kings, even though they beat my favorite team. :) I truely do hate the Mavs. The Jazz used to play them like every year in the playoffs, which is probably why I don\'t like them. Oh, and I hate the owner of the Mavs and his new haircut. :D
The Kings have been playing great all year, and IMO they deserve the championship title more than any other team.
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Mavs
Lakers
hornets
pistons
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Lakers in 5 - I\'ve been a fan since pre-Jackson/Kobe/Shaq era. I got a wide collection of old jersey\'s, plus a swingman of Shaq/Kobe, and a Kobe All-Star. Seems like it\'s hard to find the true LA fans, cause people are becoming front runners:\\
Celtics in 7- They are my 2nd favorite team. I started following them last year, even through their attrocious season. It\'s going to be a war in Stackhouse can get out of his slump and starts shooting the ball well. Pierce and Walker can match his intensity. But Celtics are gonna have to somehow get to win game 7 on their home court, cause they thrive off the home crowd.
Nets in 6- No disrespect to Charlette, but that\'s a ball club with no home. I don\'t care what they say about 10,000 fans will do. They deserve better. Anyway, JKidd having a MVP season (screw Duncan), and he\'s doing such a good job being a leader. I expect him to play with vengence in Game 4.
Kings in 6/7- After that huge win in Dallas, they really showed their true game. I\'m no Sacramento fan (LA fan), but that was their prime game. They still played phenominally without Cristie and Pedraj. I still respect the Mav\'s, but Cuban can\'t rely on a lineup full of all-stars. Their game has hurt since they are the team not playing the defense that well as Sacramento is. If Mav\'s shooting if off, say good night, cause Kings can light it up in the paint and the parimeter.
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Originally posted by jm
Seems like it\'s hard to find the true LA fans, cause people are becoming front runners:\\
Damn frontrunners. Of course, being a loyal fan has its disadvantages. For example, the fact that none of the teams I really like made it past the first round.
Um...Go Knicks?
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Well, I still have a corner of my heart for the Knicks. I can\'t argue that I get 20 free tickets per season to their games (Skybox/Tower D [basically behind the basket]).
This year was too pitaful to even follow.
Oh and AI, he can burn in hell :mad:
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Originally posted by jm
This year was too pitaful to even follow.
Oh and AI, he can burn in hell :mad:
Yeah, I can agree with that completely
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Yes, AI - teh suck.
Anyways, Nets in 6. The Hornets will pull out a couple, but thats about it.
I think Boston will win in 7. Pierce will have a monster game 7. Antoine will be steady like he usually is. I hope Boston makes it to the finals, they\'re my favorite team in it. Even though they\'ll lose to whoever comes out of the West.
Lakers in 6. The Spurs can\'t keep up with them. Kobe will hit the clutch shots. As much as i hate to say it, they\'ll probably win the championship again. I HATE the Lakers.
Kings in 7. The Mavs will make it interesting just because of the big 3. They just need LaFrentz or someone to have a couple big games to go along with the other 3.
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Why I hate Allen Iverson:
- Selfish
- Un-impressive play style
- Off-court attitdue
- Only in it for the fame/money
Theres only so much you can expect from a person like Allen Iverson. I respect his competitive drive, his talent, and him as a player, but these days it\'s becoming worse and worse. I\'ll tell you something, I\'m a dedicated SportsCenter viewer (wake up every morning at 5AM) and the controversey between him and Brown is pathetic. They keep jawing back and they still wind up at the same conclusion as before, and they embarrise themselves even more.
Face it, Philly\'s offence revolves around AI. No wonder he has had the scoring title for 2 years in a row. A person whom averages more than 30+ shots should be ashamed of himself, especially since his FG percentage is attrocious. He demands the ball on almost every possession, and expects to score. I feel sorry for Dikembe, they totaly dis-mantled his successful career.
Sure, AI has revoultanized play style a bit, but it can take him only so far. He\'s 6,0\', quick PG/SG and has a respectable verticle. His passing abilities are endless, meaning finding the open man isn\'t an option for him. Whether he wants to use his talent is the question, and thing I will slam him for. Selfish... I wonder why anyone would want to put up with him.
His off-court attitdue is totaly a joke. You know those "NBA encouraging reading" promo\'s with players? I betcha he\'s prolly just posing for the camera. If it\'s one thing he\'d rather be doing is hanging out at a club rather than giving back to the community.
And his fat contract, Reebok commercials, and his huge ego really puts a giant "fool" stamp on him. He reminds me of Stevie Franchrise.
And the fact that everyone likes him because of his competitive drive and he\'s 6,0\'! What a joke! What makes him think he\'s "too good" for everyone else? Take a look at everyone else. Kobe works so much harder than he does, Reggie Miller, Michael Jordan, Isiah Thomas, Magic, Kareem.... Sir Charles! Everyone has their own personal challenges. Shaq has his at the foul line, the so called "most dominat player in the game," (which I can\'t argue) and Tracy McGrady\'s lack of his team supporting him.
AI is "just another player" in my book.
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I couldn\'t agree with you more about AI. Except the fact that he doesn\'t work as hard as Kobe. AI is tiny. 6\'0 weighs about 180 and can still score on anyone....if he doesn\'t miss like he does 60% of the time. And Kobe, he isn\'t exactly the perfect role model either. "Oh I\'m better than everyone in the league, I can\'t be guarded....and I\'m cool because i can punch my teamate in the eye." He\'s a joke, too. He\'s good, but he\'s a joke. He\'ll never be MJ, so someone better tell him that before his head doubles in size.
Oh yeah...Sir Charles - best PF ever.
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Yeah, I\'ve been telling people how overrated Iverson is for years. There are dozens of players who could score more points than he does if they took that many shots. They don\'t though, because that isn\'t good for the team. That why I like players like Jason Kidd, Kevin Garnett, and others who not only have incredible talent, but make everyone around them better. If you think Iverson does that, just look at Mutumbos numbers now compared to his numbers while on the Hawks. I think you\'ll see what moving to AI\'s team did to his career.
I almost wonder if the Sixers would react to losing Iverson similarly to how the Raptors reacted to losing Vince Carter...
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Kobe has some breathing room cause he\'s a 5-time All-Star, plus with 2 championships, and a Dunk Title. AI has 2 scoring titles, 4-time All-Star (Not sure if that\'s accurate), and a MVP. Basically all personal accomplishments.
"Your only as successful on the moment you achieve it" - Phil Jackson
I admitt it, Kobe has an ego, but he has that championship "swager," which seperates the Lakers from everyone else in the league. They are the franchrise with the most wins and have the best road record currently in the playoffs (10 game winning streak on today) and have the best overall playoff record in back-to-back championships, winning 21 of 23 overall playoff games. Now that\'s history right there ladies and gentlemen.
When I did the compairsens with Bryant vs. AI, is that AI doesn\'t physically train, cause he was never known on taking the extra step in staying in physical shape. Kobe attends his team practices, likewise Mr. AI (Insert Philly joke here). Kobe took one breath from the first championship, and he came back so determined, he went through such a huge growth process, thus learning he cannot have the team on his back and carry them himself. The media made it a worse situation that it already was. They played the "He said, she said" game.
Kobe will never be Michael Jordan. No one will. He\'ll be compared to him when his career is over, but he has a lot of learning to do. I still feel his three-point shooting is attrocious at best, and free throws could be better (as of late, he\'s been way off). I\'d like to see at least 88% from the line. He\'ll probally retire on a good note. Maybe not as memorable as Michael\'s, but it will be strong.
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AHHHHHHH. Mavs lost today again. :( Good game though. Bobby Jackson was on fire in the 4th.. Webber and Divac both fouled out and the Mavs couldn\'t finish it off. Oh well.
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well my boys are up 3-1, great game though, I dropped a pant load a couple times during that game. It\'s nice to have a little bit of breathing room now.
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You Iverson haters no nothing. Here is a guy with cracked ribs, broken cheek bone and still suited up and led his team the NBA finals last season.
Plagued bye more injuries this season iverson still came out and gave it his all for his team to win.
For those who say he is selfish. Look at his team before you run your mouth. The sixers have no team if iverson does not put up big number the sixers don\'t win. Look at there record when Iverson was out with injuries. They can\'t win unless he scores big. This is a guy that is 5\'11 he plays his ass off. No matter what his injury is he goes out and there and tries to help his team what more can you ask?
Jm to compare awards with iverson and kobe is stupid. They have two different kinds of styles. Iverson plays totally different than kobe. And Kobe has SHAQ something Iverson does not. And that gives kobe more options. And jm what was kobe last year being called? The most selfish player in the league not passing the ball. When he has a huge superstar like shaq on his team.
Fade you know nothing about basket ball. Kobe probably would not suit up if he had the injuries Iverson has played through. And shockwaves Kevin Garnette is a huge talent but he hasen\'t made anyone all that better on the wolves because basicly the wolves suck.
You said look at mutombo\'s numbers. Mutombo sucks. No matter what mutombo just won\'t score big. He gets the ball a lot of times and usually goes for that hook and jacks the shot. Mutumbo is a good clean up player at best maybe 10 years ago he was something but as of now he is how you say doo-doo. Iverson tries to make his team better. The guy works his but off he could have not come back with the broken hand but did for the sake of his give the guy he dues.
Back to topic I want the mavs to beat the kings looks like 3-1 is almost impossible against the kings unless you have shaq on your team. And p.s Kobe will be the next jordan.
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Originally posted by QuDDus
You Iverson haters no nothing. Here is a guy with cracked ribs, broken cheek bone and still suited up and led his team the NBA finals last season.
Plagued bye more injuries this season iverson still came out and gave it his all for his team to win. did they win? No. You know why they didn\'t? Because Boston has a guy names Paul Pierce, one of the best players in the league, who doesn\'t go out bragging about it
For those who say he is selfish. Look at his team before you run your mouth. The sixers have no team if iverson does not put up big number the sixers don\'t win. Look at there record when Iverson was out with injuries. They can\'t win unless he scores big. This is a guy that is 5\'11 he plays his ass off. No matter what his injury is he goes out and there and tries to help his team what more can you ask?No team? Snow is decent, McKie was almost as All-Star in 2000-2001. Mutombo is awesome, you ignorant fool. He would put in 15 a game if Iverson didn\'t shoot 40 shots a game. Who cares if he plays through injury, more power to him.
Jm to compare awards with iverson and kobe is stupid. They have two different kinds of styles. Iverson plays totally different than kobe. And Kobe has SHAQ something Iverson does not. And that gives kobe more options. And jm what was kobe last year being called? The most selfish player in the league not passing the ball. When he has a huge superstar like shaq on his team.You contradicted yourself right there. In the above paragraph you said Iverson takes all the shots. Then here you say Kobe takes all the shots. Tell me how they play different if they both take all the shots, according to you.
Fade you know nothing about basket ball. Kobe probably would not suit up if he had the injuries Iverson has played through. And shockwaves Kevin Garnette is a huge talent but he hasen\'t made anyone all that better on the wolves because basicly the wolves suck.I know nothing about basketball because Kobe wouldn\'t dress up and play with some of the injuries Iverson plays through? Ok, that makes about no sense at all. I know nothing about basketball, pfft, give me a break. Garnett hasn\'t made anyone better? He could score 35 a night if he wanted to. The Wolves suck do they? And you tell me i know nothing about basketball....
You said look at mutombo\'s numbers. Mutombo sucks. No matter what mutombo just won\'t score big. He gets the ball a lot of times and usually goes for that hook and jacks the shot. Mutumbo is a good clean up player at best maybe 10 years ago he was something but as of now he is how you say doo-doo. Iverson tries to make his team better. The guy works his but off he could have not come back with the broken hand but did for the sake of his give the guy he dues.Now Iverson tries to make his team better? Whatever happened to he has no team and he has to take all the shots?
Back to topic I want the mavs to beat the kings looks like 3-1 is almost impossible against the kings unless you have shaq on your team. And p.s Kobe will be the next jordan.
Kobe will never be the next Jordan. No way, not even possible. Jordan averaged 30 points a game through his career, Kobe hasn\'t got it once in a season. Jordan was better at defense, he was more clutch, and definately got his team involved in the game. Just look at the Wiz this season.
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Originally posted by Fayded You contradicted yourself right there. In the above paragraph you said Iverson takes all the shots. Then here you say Kobe takes all the shots. Tell me how they play different if they both take all the shots, according to you.
Shaq takes a lot of shots. Kobe takes a lot shots. Does shaq play like kobe?? No he doesn\'t does he. If you can\'t look at kobe and Iverson and tell that they don\'t play the same sucks to be you.
No team? Snow is decent, McKie was almost as All-Star in 2000-2001. Mutombo is awesome, you ignorant fool. He would put in 15 a game if Iverson didn\'t shoot 40 shots a game. Who cares if he plays through injury, more power to him.
That is why there record sucked ass when Iverson was out with and injury. Give me a break Mckie is decent. Mutombo is washed uped. And Snow is on again off again player he may give you 15 one night and 4 the next four nights.
I know nothing about basketball, pfft, give me a break. Garnett hasn\'t made anyone better? He could score 35 a night if he wanted to. The Wolves suck do they? And you tell me i know nothing about basketball
Yeah the Wolves don\'t suck huh? Thats why they haven\'t gotten passed the first round yet because they are so good.
Kobe will never be the next Jordan. No way, not even possible. Jordan averaged 30 points a game through his career, Kobe hasn\'t got it once in a season. Jordan was better at defense, he was more clutch, and definately got his team involved in the game. Just look at the Wiz this season.
Do a little research and compare Kobe numbers at 23 to Jordans numbers at 23 and you will see why I said that.
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Shaq takes a lot of shots. Kobe takes a lot shots. Does shaq play like kobe?? No he doesn\'t does he. If you can\'t look at kobe and Iverson and tell that they don\'t play the same sucks to be you.
I can see the difference. But you did a complete 180 in two paragraphs. Yeah, Shaq shoots alot and fouls a hella lot, but he shoots at about 50% Compared to Iversons 35%. Kobe is better than Iverson for one reason, he\'s taller. But i still hate both of them.
That is why there record sucked ass when Iverson was out with and injury. Give me a break Mckie is decent. Mutombo is washed uped. And Snow is on again off again player he may give you 15 one night and 4 the next four nights.
Yeah they did suck ass. And i didnt mind one bit. Mutombo isn\'t washed up, he has about two more good years. If Iverson would give him the ball.
Yeah the Wolves don\'t suck huh? Thats why they haven\'t gotten passed the first round yet because they are so good.
Your gonna say the T-Wolves suck when the 76ers just started getting to the playoffs again? The 76ers wont even been in the hunt in 2 years, like the T-Wolves will be (excluding all injuries and trades)
Do a little research and compare Kobe numbers at 23 to Jordans numbers at 23 and you will see why I said that.
Do a little research on Kobe\'s first 5 years compared to Jardan\'s first 5 and you\'ll see why i said that.
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QuDDus is a typical AI fan at best :rolleyes:
Do you know why he team isn\'t as good as they can be? It\'s because of him. He wants to be the best, the spotlight, the one all the media wants to ask questions about after games. He seems that he\'ll get better regnition if he plagued by numerous injuries but missed in the first round. You can cry all you want about how much he\'s hurtin, but it doesn\'t mean anything unless you succeeded while ingured.
AI has a solid supporting cast, QuDDus. Last year Dikembe won All-Defensive man of the year (although that was a joke, he had better stuff that one in his closet!). He averages almost a double-double a night, he has height, and he was an excellent hook shot. To say that he\'s garbage is kinda ignorant :rolleyes:
Did I mention Kobe made All-NBA team this year, QuDDus? Hmm, AI didn\'t. Oh and Kobe has injuries too. His hand is severly banged up, and ankle. Shaq has just as many injuries as AI has. His arthritic toe, his wrist, his index finger, and his left sprained ankle! And he\'s still doing his job. Maybe not those 26.6PPG 15RPG\'s like last year, but he\'s getting the job done.
You know why Kobe and AI play different? AI doesn\'t play the triangle. Philly\'s offense revolves around isolations and picks so AI can score. Phil Jackson\'s theory is "The game reveals the player. The triangle reveals the game." Phil\'s offense was always the triangle. When he first went into LA in 1999, he said their offense was simply put the ball in someone\'s hands and score, then if it didn\'t work, re-work it. Now you got an offense that ulilizes the Laker talent. Kobe to penetrate the defense, Fisher/Horry/Shaw with clutch threes, and Shaq, who is dominant in the paint.
Lakers aren\'t the Lakers unless they have the whole package. They aren\'t better without Kobe or without Shaq or Fisher. There comes a time and need for each one of those players.
Oh and about getting team envolved, did I mention Kobe is the team leader in assists? :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
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QuDDus, you come in here saying we are the ones that know nothing. I take a look at your posts, and I see more senseless jibberish, to put it lightly, than any other post in this topic.
Iverson doesn\'t have a team to work with? Well, last time I checked, Mutumbo was the best center in the East. But I guess we\'ll just ignore him. Last I checked, Coleman, who averaged nearly a double double this year, wasn\'t that bad either. I also wonder how Eric Snow got to be so bad (even though he leads the team in assists). You know where Iverson was missed when he was out? On the defensive end. He is a damn good defensive player, if you watch him. Offensively, he shot below 40%. No team is going to miss a player offensively that shoots like that.
Another thing, playing your ass off and being unselfish are two different things. No one is denying that he plays his ass off. The question is, who\'s he doing it for, the team, or himself. I think the answer is clearly himself. I also think that if you put Iverson on another team, one with either a coach with half a brain, who runs a system that gets more than one person involved, or one where Iverson has less help, the way Jordan did this year, he would fall apart.
As for Kevin Garnett, if you ask me, he is the best all around player in the game. He can do it all, score, rebound, defend, etc. The thing that makes him special though, is he is the most unselfish player in the league. He averaged over 20 points, over 10 boards, and over 5 assists a game. Unlike Iverson, he shot a decent percentage too (47%). But look for a moment at the rest of his team. They put up a fight in the first round without their starting PG, Terrell Brandon. Sure they lost, but are you telling me the Sixers wouldn\'t have lost too against the Mavs? Garnett had 24 points, 18.7 boards, and 5 assists per game in that series. You think it\'s his fault they lost?
If you want proof of how unselfish Garnett is, look for a moment at Wally Szczerbiak. Wally spent a good deal of his time demanding the ball. And why not, he shot over 50% this year. The bottom line is, Garnett didn\'t challenge him on it. He didn\'t tell Wally that he was the star on the team, and the offense would run through him. Instead, he gave Wally what he wanted, and Wally became an all star. I\'d like to see you name another player in the NBA who would do that. I know Iverson wouldn\'t.
Iverson is the most overrated player in the league. There are plenty of people with more talent than him. And oh yeah, there are plenty of players who would kill for the supporting cast he has too.
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Well, you two pretty much said everything. But i just wanna mention something....Derek Fisher is one of the most over-rated players in the league. Have you noticed that 99% of his 3 point shots are wide open ones? You know why that is? Because the opposing team puts all their attention on Shaq and Kobe, and usually double teams one of them. Leaving Fisher open for the wide open 3 pointer. And if you\'re a PG in the NBA, you better be able to make a wide open shot.
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Fisher over-rated??? Where have you been? Fisher is always under pressure when he shoots. They usually kick him the ball when his man is in front of him. Take a look at Game 2 and 3. Fisher is far from the best PG in the game, but his defense and three-point shooting is very solid and above average.
Horry is the one left open when they kick out the ball to him.
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Last year in the playoffs in was Fisher with the open shots, then the announcers went on saying how great he was and how underrated he is. I\'ve hated him since then. And yeah, against the Spurs he made a couple tough 3 pointers, but a majority of the ones he takes are open.
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See, you have to realize something Fayded. Just because you hate someone doesn\'t mean they\'re bad. Also, you\'re basing your opinion on him on only a handful of games. That just shows the ignorance you\'re posting with.
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Well since my teams basically sucked this year (Heat lol, and Pacers) I\'ve spent most of the playoffs rooting for the Kings and the Pistons. If you could only put Detroit\'s defense with the Kings offense, wow that would rule, anyway predictions...
Nets in 6
Pistons in 7
Lakers in 6
Kings in 5
About AI...he is so overrated its not even funny. Mutumbo used to shoot a lot more before being traded to the Sixers, now he has to do the grunt work and get rebounds off of Iverson\'s misses.
About Kobe being as good as MJ, please. Kobe has Shaq, who did Jordan have during his early twenties? plus Jordan didn\'t come out of highschool so Kobe had been in the league a lot longer when comparing them both at 23. Put any good player with Shaq and watch them become great.
Shaq is the glue that holds the Lakers together, without Shaq the open shots for Fisher, Bryant, Horry and Fox wouldn\'t come, Shaq commands the double team and in turn kicks it out for the wide open 3.
Im telling you, put Shaq on ANY team in the NBA with a good SG/PG and watch that team do a number in the playoffs, if not win the Championship.
shock Garnett is no doubt one of the best players in the league, but he also has good players to pass to and rely on, thats why he is unselfish. Tracy McGrady on the other hand is probably one of the most versatile players in the league, he basically carried his team to the 4th or 5th spot in the East. The East isn\'t exactly easy to get into the playoff hunt. Put another superstar that isn\'t CONSTANTLY injured on TMac\'s team and watch the W\'s come, like for example Tim Duncan after his contract is up next year.... ahh the possibilities.
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They did try to get Duncan on the Magic a few years back. Of course, if they had gotten him, they would have gotten him and Hill, not him and McGrady.
Anyway, McGrady does have Miller to kick it out to, and Miller can be a damn good shooter. Garnett really doesn\'t have much more of a supporting cast, especially with Brandon out.
There are lots of teams that could be great if they just had one more superstar. I mean, imagine if Duncan went to the T-Wolves. They\'d dominate as well.
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Originally posted by QuDDus
You Iverson haters no nothing. Here is a guy with cracked ribs, broken cheek bone and still suited up and led his team the NBA finals last season.
Cracked Ribs my ass, I\'ve had cracked ribs before and theres no way in hell he could play at all.
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I don\'t think he had cracked ribs either, they were probably bruised. Wally is a good player shock...and having two of the best PFs in the league would um rock, but Garnett and Duncan each want too much to be able to keep them both.
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Duncan would play C if that happened, but it never would. The only negative part of Garnett is his huge contract, which has unfortunately hurt the T-Wolves quite a bit.
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Garnett doesn\'t deserve the biggest contact in the NBA. You replace him with another decent PF, and the T-Wolves still make the playoffs.
And yes, Kobe can be replaced on the Lakers with another decent PG and they\'d still be in the hunt for the championship. But if you replaced Shaq for a decent center the Lakers would be fighting to get past the first round.
And shock, don\'t get me started with ignorance...
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Garnett\'s contract is a big one, but it isn\'t like he doesn\'t put up numbers to support it. He plays night in and night out bustin his ass. He needs a better supporting cast most definately.
Yes, the Lakers franchrise revolves around Shaq, it\'s so obvious. It\'s so evident that when he retires, Phil is going to also. But in terms of Lakers success today, you need all the elements they have. Shaq for paint dominance, Kobe for defense penetration, and Fisher/Horry for clutch threes.
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Well the T-Wolves can\'t sign anyone else to help because he has a monster contract. I have a feeling Garnett will be traded sometime in the next two years.
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I have a feeling that Minnesota isn\'t that stupid.
Remember, they did have Marbury too, he just couldn\'t take the idea of being 2nd best on his team. They could get another player, perhaps sometime down the road. However, Garnett is worth every penny of what he\'s paid.
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I was hopin\' for the following:
Pistons vs Hornets
Lakers vs Mavs
and a final of
Pistons vs Lakers
Lakers in 4. = World champs
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About AI...he is so overrated its not even funny. Mutumbo used to shoot a lot more before being traded to the Sixers, now he has to do the grunt work and get rebounds off of Iverson\'s misses.
Umm Iverson missed a lot of games this season and mutombo still sucked ass this year. The guy is washed up and overrated. 5-6 years ago he was something but as of now the guy is a joke.
Garnett doesn\'t deserve the biggest contact in the NBA. You replace him with another decent PF, and the T-Wolves still make the playoffs.
For that very comment I say you know **** about basketball.
Iverson doesn\'t have a team to work with? Well, last time I checked, Mutumbo was the best center in the East. But I guess we\'ll just ignore him. Last I checked, Coleman, who averaged nearly a double double this year, wasn\'t that bad either. I also wonder how Eric Snow got to be so bad (even though he leads the team in assists). You know where Iverson was missed when he was out? On the defensive end. He is a damn good defensive player, if you watch him. Offensively, he shot below 40%. No team is going to miss a player offensively that shoots like that
You sound stupid. Like I said before Mutumbo is done. The east has no other real center but Alonzo Morning and Zo at 100% will **** all over Mutombo. You sound even more dumb saying the sixers do not miss Iverson points when he is not in the game?That is why they can\'t win a playoff series without him. And they have a ****ty record when is not in the lineup. And you loose all credibility with me mentioning DC. DC is the most laziest slowerst PF in the game he just refuses to get better. Thats one reason he bounced all over the league.
Did I mention Kobe made All-NBA team this year, QuDDus? Hmm, AI didn\'t.
Man you three say stuff you would hear elementry kids saying about B-ball. Man Iverson made the team last year. He missed too many games to qualify this year duhhhhhhh!!!!!
About Kobe being as good as MJ, please. Kobe has Shaq, who did Jordan have during his early twenties? plus Jordan didn\'t come out of highschool so Kobe had been in the league a lot longer when comparing them both at 23. Put any good player with Shaq and watch them become great.
Are all of you over 10?? I swear It seems like I am talking to grade school kids. Omg what does shaq have to do with Kobe having unbelievable talent?? Shaq has nothing to do with Kobe having the talent he has. OMG you kids.
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I\'m not even gonna bother with QuDDus anymore. You just cut out all my work, no need at making you look any dumber than you are already.
I just got finished watching game 4, Kobe was MVP with the little hook and the crucial rebound. Scored more points than the entire Spurs team in the 4th quarter.
*Also notices that there isn\'t any IVERSON tonight, perhaps he\'ll put together another press conference just to make sure theres some spotlight shed on him, even tho the Sixers aren\'t in the Playoffs anymore..what a shame!*
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Originally posted by jm
I\'m not even gonna bother with QuDDus anymore. You just cut out all my work, no need at making you look any dumber than you are already.
AI doesn\'t physically train, cause he was never known on taking the extra step in staying in physical shape.
Hahaha you should look at your own statements before passing judgement.
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You say we all sound like little kids, then you come back with "You\'re so stupid." Man...
And yes, they would still make the playoffs with a decent to good PF. Like Elton Brand for example. He\'ll be awesome in a couple years, just watch. And if they got him (which I HIGHLY doubt) they would still make the playoffs. Him and Wally could become pretty good together if Wally got his head out of his ass. But since they wont get Brand, Garnett should think about lowering his contract so he can get some more talent around him. Then they might not lose in the first round....
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Originally posted by QuDDus
You sound stupid. Like I said before Mutumbo is done. The east has no other real center but Alonzo Morning and Zo at 100% will **** all over Mutombo. You sound even more dumb saying the sixers do not miss Iverson points when he is not in the game?That is why they can\'t win a playoff series without him. And they have a ****ty record when is not in the lineup. And you loose all credibility with me mentioning DC. DC is the most laziest slowerst PF in the game he just refuses to get better. Thats one reason he bounced all over the league.
In the games before Iverson rejoined the Sixers at the beginning of the season, Mutumbo averaged 12.4 points, 12.8 boards per game. Last I checked, that was pretty good. Add to that the fact that he was last years defensive MVP. And add that in that span he had one really bad game (3 points, 6 boards) which brought his numbers way down. 14.75 points and 14.5 boards per. That isn\'t bad at all. A lot of it is also the system he\'s in. I happen to think Philly\'s offensive system is horrible. And this is coming from a Knicks fan. As for not being able to win a playoff series without him in the lineup, what are you basing that on? When was the last time they had a playoff series without him?
Anyway, I guess we aren\'t gonna agree, so I\'ll just stop arguing back and forth. I guess it\'s just a matter of opinion, and I\'ll leave it at that.
And Fayded, you sound a hundred times stupider than anyone else in this thread. I gotta agree with QuDDus on this one, based on what you\'ve said, you know **** about basketball.
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Originally posted by Fayded
And yes, they would still make the playoffs with a decent to good PF. Like Elton Brand for example. He\'ll be awesome in a couple years, just watch. And if they got him (which I HIGHLY doubt) they would still make the playoffs. Him and Wally could become pretty good together if Wally got his head out of his ass. But since they wont get Brand, Garnett should think about lowering his contract so he can get some more talent around him. Then they might not lose in the first round....
Wow, you do know **** about basketball...
First of all, you can\'t lower your contract. That isn\'t something you are allowed to do. It\'s a contract, you\'re stuck in it.
Garnett is light years ahead of Brand. Brand is good, but he\'ll never be half the player Garnett is. Brand and Wally would get you nothing more than a ****ty lottery pick.
One thing you might wanna notice here Fayded. When everyone else argues, they back up their arguement. They use stats, figures, information that can be proved. You have said nothing factual yet, just off base opinions that everyone but you realises are very wrong.
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Originally posted by Fayded
You say we all sound like little kids, then you come back with "You\'re so stupid." Man...
And yes, they would still make the playoffs with a decent to good PF. Like Elton Brand for example. He\'ll be awesome in a couple years, just watch. And if they got him (which I HIGHLY doubt) they would still make the playoffs. Him and Wally could become pretty good together if Wally got his head out of his ass. But since they wont get Brand, Garnett should think about lowering his contract so he can get some more talent around him. Then they might not lose in the first round....
That has to be the most rediculas thing posted yet. Maybe sports isn\'t your thing??
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Want stats? Here you go..
Rebounds:
Garnett - 12.1 a game
Brand - 11.6 a game
Points:
Garnett - 21.2
Brand - 18.2
All of this while KG plays 3 more minutes than Brand. And in those 3 extra minutes Brand could easily score at least 2 points and grab 2 boards. There\'s your stats. *****.
Edit: All of this while Brand is in his 2nd year....he\'ll never be half the player Garnett is my ass.
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Let\'s not forget that Garnett had more than twice the assists, which was one of my major points about him. He also defends much better. Garnett is also a better talent.
And you say he\'d get 2 more points and 2 boards in another 3 minutes?
Project that over a 48 minute game, and you have 32 points and 32 boards a night. You must think pretty highly of Brand... :rolleyes:
And once again, Garnett could get a lot more than he does. He\'s just the most unselfish player in the game, so he doesn\'t.
And Garnett came out of High School. He\'s only like 1 year older than Brand.
You have no idea how much of an idiot you sound like...
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Sure, he\'s only a year older. But he\'s been pro alot longer. And if you know anything about sports, you would know that players get better faster by playing against tougher competition. Give Brand 2 or 3 more years. And yes, the Wolves would make the playoffs with Elton Brand.
And about that 2 points and 2 rebound thing. I\'m not saying he would get that every 3 minutes, I\'m saying that he COULD. Jesus.
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From the posts you\'ve made here, and from talking to you on AIM, you have proved to be incredibly ignorant on this subject Fayded. No one agrees with you, take a hint.
I\'m not even gonna argue anymore. Ignorance pisses me off too much.
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Am i supposed to care what people think? If i am supposed to care, I don\'t. Wait until Brand has 5 years expierence in the NBA like Garnett does, then we can compare them. My ignorance is making you mad? Try seeing things a different way for once, and realise that Brand is alot better than you give him credit for.
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All I\'m saying is that Brand isn\'t nearly as good as Garnett is. I\'m not giving him credit for more than that.
And you aren\'t necessarily supposed to care what others say, but when no one agrees with you, sometimes it\'s best to take a hint.
And if you say that we should wait for another few years before making comparisons, then why were you the one who started to compare them?
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Why did i compare them? Maybe to prove a point. You were saying that Brand will never be half the player Garnett is. You said i don\'t back up my opinions with facts. That\'s why i compared them.
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Um, I only said that Brand would never be half the player Garnett is, after you compared them by saying that the Wolves would make the playoffs with Brand :rolleyes:
Besides, you proved nothing. So stop acting like throwing out 2 numbers for each player is proving something.
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A championship Football team.
A championship contending basketball team.
One of the best(THE best IMO) Baseball teams in the league.
A talented up and coming Hockey Team
Damn, It feels good to be a Boston Sports fan.
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A champion who will never repeat in football
An eastern conference team in basketball
The Red Sox
The #1 seed that lost in the NHL\'s first round
...um, yeah! Go Boston ;)
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3 joke football teams
THE worst team in basketball
Goliath to the BoSox\'s David
What like 12 Hockey teams?
Ha! Go New York.
To hell that is.
Its ok though. Jealosy is a b*tch.
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Originally posted by Gohan
A championship Football team.
A championship contending basketball team.
One of the best(THE best IMO) Baseball teams in the league.
A talented up and coming Hockey Team
Damn, It feels good to be a Boston Sports fan.
It looks like Boston will beat the pistons but thats about it. They won\'t see past next round. It makes no sense for them to go to the Nba finals and get crushed bye the lakers.
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The Celtics can definately beat the nets. They are FAR from unstopable. The Lakers? They were swept by the Celts this season. They beat them with AND without Shaq.
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Spurs just can\'t last in the last quarter dammit, why does that always happen? Up by 10 3 min left, and they get beat by 10. :(
NEXT YEAR I GARUNTEE EVERYONE SPURS WILL WIN.
Mark my word. :evil:
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Originally posted by Gohan
The Celtics can definately beat the nets. They are FAR from unstopable. The Lakers? They were swept by the Celts this season. They beat them with AND without Shaq.
Ok your joking rite. The celtics can barely beat the pistons. And you think they can beat the lakers in the playoffs?? The celtics can\'t beat no team playing in the west right now. If any of those 4 western teams was in the east right now playing the celtics they would own them. OMG you really believe the celtics of all teams have a shot at beating the lakers in the playoffs??
It really does not matter if nets or celtics when none of them can stop the lakers.
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2/19 @ Lakers 109-108 Win
4/5 Lakers 99-81 Win
Do you somehow believe that only the Lakers can step up their game in the post-season? Get off of Shaq\'s nuts.
The Celts were also 3-1 against the Nets during the season. What the hell are you talking about?
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Originally posted by Gohan
2/19 @ Lakers 109-108 Win
4/5 Lakers 99-81 Win
Do you somehow believe that only the Lakers can step up their game in the post-season? Get off of Shaq\'s nuts.
The Celts were also 3-1 against the Nets during the season. What the hell are you talking about?
Your going to eat your words. And yes the lakers are the only team that step it up the level they that is why they have beated every team they have faced bye huged margins. 3-0, next 4-1, then 4-1 again.
Celtics barely beat philly, Just getting bye the pistons and soon have to face the nets.
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rofl, QuDDus, your must be joking yourself.
Did you do the math in Game 5? There was a HUGE margin of loss. "Go eat my words," blah blah blah, you sound like a broken record.
I\'m sorry the anti-Philly/AI fans knocked you and everyone else off your high horse, cause quite frankly, you and the select few ruined this topic. I was open for a good argument, til you started thinking you were some high pride of some sort.
You haven\'t changed your tone in any of your posts and you continue to push buttons on everyone, like your expecting a fight of some sort. Well, looks like I\'ll begin and end this one real fast :rolleyes: