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A link. (http://www.wwe.com/news/rossreport/)
There have been rumors flying around all week, but now it\'s been confirmed that Scott Hall and Mr. Perfect have been released from the WWE. The two were said to be big trouble makers, and more recently they caused a disturbance aboard an airliner during the Inserexion tour. There were many rumor\'s on misc. sites about this, but Jim Ross confirmed it in his "Ross report". Below are a few links for a bit more info.
Scott Hall fired. (http://www.wrestlingplanet.com/news/articles/2273.shtml)
Mr.Perfect- not so perfect. (http://www.wrestlingplanet.com/news/articles/2277.shtml)
Thoughts on the subject. (http://www.wrestlingplanet.com/news/articles/2281.shtml)
I don\'t really care so much, as I never liked either. :)
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Hey yo!
Scott Hall was funny, Mr. Perfect was stupid.
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that was Confirmed on WWE.com back on Tuesday or Wednesday. they had to change the script on monday nite due to WWE knowing they would get fired. BTW the WWE (WWF to me......darn Panda!) signed Rey Misterio JR to many sources.
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Well I wonder how this will work...anyway I guess that\'s why Nash was there.
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so now Nash is the only real nWo member? sweet, Hogan and Hall were pathetic
now they have Big Show, Nash as two unstoppable monsters.. that means XPac is gonna get the **** beaten out of him every episode..
FUKKING SWEET!
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It won\'t bother me, they are both washed- up has beens anyway.
It looks like goldust and Bradshaw are in a lot of trouble also due to the plane ride.
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heh, Goldust. Speaking of washed up has beens...
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I haven\'t heard anything "official" about Bradshaw or Goldust, but you never know. I wouldn\'t care if Goldust left, but Bradshaw was kinda cool.
So now, is Ric Flair a part of the nWo? That poor group just keeps getting worse and worse! I\'m not positive, but I think this was a last minute decision, on a part of the lay offs.
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Originally posted by Kurt Angle
It looks like goldust and Bradshaw are in a lot of trouble also due to the plane ride.
what about a plane ride? wha happened?
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Check the links, Luke ol\' pal. But keep in mind these are just rumor sites, not official WWE news. :)
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Damn, Mr. Perfect was hilarious. That damned adominal stretch/holding on to the rope makes me laugh out loud every time!
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That sux0rs! Scott Hall was good, what the hell you talkin\' about?
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Now if they could just get rid of Hogan, or at least have him drop the title, wrestling would be that much sweeter.
I\'m not sad to see Scott Hall go. Perhaps he was good in the old days (Razor Ramon), or in WCW, but since rejoining WWF, er, WWE, he hasn\'t been all that entertaining. And the way he would prance out on stage was pretty damn stupid, even if it was just an act.
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This was reported monday I believe
Only ppl in trouble is hall and perfect.
Perfect got drunk on a plane and pick a fight with lessner. And harrassed the air crew.
Hall has been a drunk for the last what 5 years and it was almost expected for him to be fired soon. Well the WWE finally got tired of his drunken ways and fired him.
The NWO was brought in stupidly anyways it was noting like the old NWO. WWE just sucks I barely watch it anymore.
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Originally posted by QuDDus
Perfect got drunk on a plane and pick a fight with lessner.
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talk about barking up the wrong tree.. whats he gonna do? throw his towel, and spit his gum at him?
and its a shame you dont like WWE anymore, personally i like it (except for the whole Hogan thing), the fights are generally much better than they have been over the past year, and because of the fact that RAW has the Hardcore title, and SmackDown has the cruiserweight, they are actually DOING something with them.. which is good
oh, and if you missed SmackDown, you missed Torrie Wilson :eek: my gawd man, too bad :D
plus its funnier than it ever has been before.. just a pitty Regal doesnt get much funny time anymore :( he was the funniest.. but Kurt Angle will have to do
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Anybody who says Mr. Perfect is no good has no idea what they are talking about. That dude still has his skills. I\'m sad to see him go.
I knew Hall wouldn\'t last; his only concern is where to find his next bottle.
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Originally posted by Bobs_Hardware
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talk about barking up the wrong tree.. whats he gonna do? throw his towel, and spit his gum at him?
and its a shame you dont like WWE anymore, personally i like it (except for the whole Hogan thing), the fights are generally much better than they have been over the past year, and because of the fact that RAW has the Hardcore title, and SmackDown has the cruiserweight, they are actually DOING something with them.. which is good
oh, and if you missed SmackDown, you missed Torrie Wilson :eek: my gawd man, too bad :D
plus its funnier than it ever has been before.. just a pitty Regal doesnt get much funny time anymore :( he was the funniest.. but Kurt Angle will have to do
Raw is definately better than Smackdown. The cruiserweight title is getting a bit more attention now, but more crusierweights need to go after it- not just Tajiri and Kidman. I was kinda disapointed with WWE lately, especially because of that Hogan storyline. But watching the last Raw was sort of rejuvenating. I hope it keeps up.
Smackdown on the otherhand, I just can\'t seem to enjoy it as much as I used to. Their wasting it\'s talent (Kurt Angle in a head shaving match? What the hell..?), and Billy & Chuck as Tag Champions is getting stale.
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Remember when the rosters were first made? I believe I was one of the few people insisting that Raw got the better roster :)
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Originally posted by shockwaves
Remember when the rosters were first made? I believe I was one of the few people insisting that Raw got the better roster :)
Oh, I totally agree with you. :)
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You actually liked that last Raw? Christ.
Raw was the better show going into the last PPV, but coming out of it and into Judgment Day, Smackdown is so much better.
Raw has been nothing but trotting out Flair, Austin, Nash, Hall, Big Show, X-Pac, and Bradshaw in one humongous uninteresting, rehashed, uninspired storyline for WEEKS. And now with the god awful Flair turn, it\'s going to continue.
I say fire them all. I\'d rather watch Stephanie McMahon trying to burst her implants with high-pitched shreaking for two hours than sit through nWo version 8, Austin/McMahon version 5, and "try unsuccessfully to push Show and X-Pac" versions 3 and 4.
Not even RVD, Guerrero, and Regal can make the show worthwhile anymore, although they do make up the highlights of it. Smackdown, on the other hand, has turned itself around. My only gripe there is that D-Von\'s angle is getting a bit too 80s, but at least its better than Flair in his 80s becoming another heel owner...
-Eik
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Sorry, it\'s a rule that every 5 or so Wrestling threads Ricky makes me bring him out to play. A rule is a rule. You don\'t want me to piss off Ricky now do you?
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Originally posted by Videoholic
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Sorry, it\'s a rule that every 5 or so Wrestling threads Ricky makes me bring him out to play. A rule is a rule. You don\'t want me to piss off Ricky now do you?
ROFL, hahaha, that is some funny ****, I used to watch wrestling till 10th grade, and then I got a life, I watch it sometimes here or there, but I only like the rock, or scsa.
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Originally posted by Videoholic
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Sorry, it\'s a rule that every 5 or so Wrestling threads Ricky makes me bring him out to play. A rule is a rule. You don\'t want me to piss off Ricky now do you?
Yuck. Well, here come the nightmares...:laughing:
Eik, do you really enjoy Smackdown better than Raw? I dunno, I guess I can\'t make myself enjoy the angles SD is trying to push. I totally agree with you about that nWo/Flair comment. I never liked it from day 1. Infact, I was probably the only one who didn\'t care when either Ric Flair or the nWo was brought over to the WWE. I\'m enjoying the feud between Eddie and RVD, as they put on some of the best matches to date. And Booker T/ Goldust is amusing, if anything. Bubba\'s new attitude is also fun to watch. And William Regal is always a worth a larf.
But smackdown, I just don\'t like anything going on there. I\'m just barely begining to enjoy watching Maven and Al Snow, but the fact that there\'s gonna be 2 more losers that can\'t wrestle after Tough Enough 2, then a Tough Enough 3! I have to say the concept is getting pretty old by now...
And what about Billy and Chuck? Seeing them in thongs really gave me nightmares (and Ricky seems to wanna torment me somemore...thanks Vid :laughing: ). Tajiri as a heel couldn\'t have happened at a worse time. I know he used to be one, but the fans were liking him more as a face. Thank god for Torrie Wilson, otherwise I would have been majorly dissapointed Thursday night.
Kurt Angle = a great heel, very entertaining. But he can only do so much with what material he\'s given, so to speak. This whole head shaving match is a really dumb idea brought over from WCW. As much as I\'d love to see Edge bald, he\'s only slowing down Kurt\'s character. I liked Edge more when he was with Christian. And yes, D\'Von as a preacher- WTF?
Perhaps the only entertaing aspect of Smackdown would have to be Triple H. A feud with Jericho- well, we\'ve seen it before, but this time it\'s HHH as the face, and Jericho as the heel. If the match is a great one at Judgement Day, then this angle could end very gracefully, perhaps with the return of Stephanie and how the whole divorce thing was a ruse (c\'mon, you know that\'s what\'s gonna happen). But I know just as well that they AREN\'T gonna do the smart thing by ending the angle, and instead are going to carry it on until it becomes stale, and we fans get bored again.
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I don\'t see how any of you could watch either show. They are just so boring. There story lines are not consistant when was the last time we had a great fued like it use to be. I mean most fued only last 1 ppv and it\'s over.
And hogan with the belt is just awful. I mean hhh vs devon on smackdown what is this world coming to. And the WWE has way too many womens matches on raw. It\'s good to see them show there ass but not wrestling all the time.
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And hogan with the belt is just awful. I mean hhh vs devon on smackdown what is this world coming to. And the WWE has way too many womens matches on raw. It\'s good to see them show there ass but not wrestling all the time.
A-men, brotha. In the words of good \'ol JR:
"Business DAMN well better pick up!" :cool:
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the Angle/edge feud has been going for a couple of months now, so ther is one feud that has gone on a little bit...same with Tajiri/Kidman.....in a smaller sense........
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How about tonight\'s Raw? Shades of goodness with RVD, Regal, Hardcore, Women, Booker T (early on), but the show was ruined with Flair & Hogan, Flair & nWo, Flair, Austin, Everyone, Booker T (ugh), and uninspired performances from everyone in both main events.
Hogan and Flair no sold everything and in the Austin main event, there was hardly anything to sell anyway.
They killed a Canadian crowd which is friggin impossible. However, Bubba, RVD, and those guys were the ones being entertaining. Raw is screwed up. They need to take the untalented, over-the-hill, unentertaining, "main eventers" and give them the boot for the younger, faster, and all-around better undercard. That\'s what the WWE used to be about...
That\'s also a big reason why I like Smackdown right now. Whereas Raw had the emphasis on RVD, Booker, and Lesnar, that\'s gone and Smackdown is the show with Randy Orton, Jericho, Angle, Edge, etc.
But its true whoever said the writing is inconsistent, for all we know, Raw will be the better show next week. It\'s always uncertain (unlike the fact that Flair/Show vs Austin and is going to absolutely suck - that is certain)
-Eik
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What? Something about Torrie Wilson, I read that much.
I haven\'t seen wrestling for 2 weeks now but I apparently haven\'t missed anything.
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Originally posted by Eiksirf
How about tonight\'s Raw? Shades of goodness with RVD, Regal, Hardcore, Women, Booker T (early on), but the show was ruined with Flair & Hogan, Flair & nWo, Flair, Austin, Everyone, Booker T (ugh), and uninspired performances from everyone in both main events.
Hogan and Flair no sold everything and in the Austin main event, there was hardly anything to sell anyway.
They killed a Canadian crowd which is friggin impossible. However, Bubba, RVD, and those guys were the ones being entertaining. Raw is screwed up. They need to take the untalented, over-the-hill, unentertaining, "main eventers" and give them the boot for the younger, faster, and all-around better undercard. That\'s what the WWE used to be about...
That\'s also a big reason why I like Smackdown right now. Whereas Raw had the emphasis on RVD, Booker, and Lesnar, that\'s gone and Smackdown is the show with Randy Orton, Jericho, Angle, Edge, etc.
But its true whoever said the writing is inconsistent, for all we know, Raw will be the better show next week. It\'s always uncertain (unlike the fact that Flair/Show vs Austin and is going to absolutely suck - that is certain)
-Eik
with all the old talent main eventing, and the young guys being held back, does this remind you of WCW 4 years ago? And we all know what happend to them.
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That "old talent" you speak of also appears on Smackdown...being the Undisputed champion and all. Except fo Flair, who is a joke, I admit.
Tonights Raw was sub-par, to say the least. Seing the Hardy\'s get some revenge was somewhat satisfying, as was Trish winning the Woman\'s championship. It\'s nice to see these women do something other than act like whores all the time...not that there\'s anything wrong with whores.
But the nWo is, and always has been, a dumb idea. And adding Flair as it\'s "leader" is only making the problem worse.
I see the problems remedied in the following ways:
- drop Hogan. Give the title to Taker for awhile, then move it to someone like, say, RVD or even Booker T. And keep Flair on the sidelines.
- enough with Tough Enough. First time was the charm, second time is pushing it, third time is a BAD idea.
- Brock Lesner would wreak havoc in a title race. Stop wasting his talent.
- while we\'re on that subject, stop wasting Kurt Angle, Big Show, etc.
- Billy and Chuck need to "straighten up". We need new Tag Champs.
- And a good cruiserweight division wouldn\'t hurt. Just Kidman, Tajiri and Hurricane aren\'t enough.
Those are just my ideas. Anybody else have something to add/change?
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god dammit eik! i saw RVD and Regal..
RAW is about to screen in a couple of hours here, so ill post in here after that
but i liked both last weeks RAW and SmackDown..
dunno, just like it
and yes, they are wasting angle trying to FORCE edge into becoming a top face.. god i hate him..
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NWO was awesome back in the day for a few months anyway. Hogan hitting the Rock in the ambulance was classic. Good Hogan sux.
We need more honest-to-God tag teams. Enough with the Big Show and some little dude teams.
I wish I could see the Guerrero/RVD match as I\'m sure that was the best one this year.
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I don\'t watch WWE that much anymore, but let me say one thing:
The day they have an RVD vs. Lesner title feud going on is the day they win me back.
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Originally posted by EmperorRob
NWO was awesome back in the day for a few months anyway. Hogan hitting the Rock in the ambulance was classic. Good Hogan sux.
WORD.
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Hogan being champion = worst mistake in WWE history.. its horrible
Hogan vs. Flair wasnt too bad IMO.. i just took it as a gimmick match (which it was really).. and Flair TOTALLY outperformed Hogan.. man its pathetic and is ruining ALL our main events having him as champion
i think its good that we are starting to see the young guys come through (except Edge, **** him off somewhere) but the old guys are still getting too much emphasis.. i know Undertaker is close to retirement (after another face turn), how long can they keep playing the SCSA vs. Owner angle?
BookerT joining the nWo? worst idea since giving Hogan the belt.. sure it sorta gives him a push, sorta, but for me, out of ALL the WCW stars that came over, BookerT was doing the best, he was funny, was a GOOD heel, great in ring performer, \'Spinnerroony\' is fantastic.. and he was just starting to get a face push, then they pull this ****
drop Edge totally.. i dont care what anyone says, they have been giving him an ENORMOUS push and he DID NOT deserve it, he has NO moves, NO serious mic skills, isnt big, isnt speedy, still has pretty boy image but tries to pull badass antics.. and is just wasting Angle. Rhyno should have definately won it last year
Cruiser Weight is going OK, but not good enough, there should be some huge 4 way matches and tripple threat title shots, have everything going off. Hardcore is definately the most entertaining of all the titles at the moment, but even there they arent doing enough with it, they have just one segment in the night, they should keep it going backstage and everything. Tag Titles suck, European Title sucks (****ing kill Spike), Intercontinental title is OK though, RVD and Latino Heat are great in ring performers.
BRING CHRIS BENOIT BACK TO WWE! AND DO IT NOW! lord knows we need him. Rhyno would be great too, but thats a ways off.
hurry up and get this damn redneck thing over with, SCSA IMO is passed his used by date, and giving bradshaw one last push (assuming hes near his end) isnt too bad, but.. eh..
i dunno.. too many things wrong, still entertaining tho
and god damn.. did Torrie ever look hot on SmackDown.. agagagagag
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What did Torrie do that I missed?
Tell me I command it. Seriously though I do command it.
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she held up a sign that said "Hi Robbie" then turned around and shaked her ass in YOUR general direction.
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Originally posted by Bobs_Hardware
Hogan being champion = worst mistake in WWE history.. its horrible
Yep, all one week of it ;)
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Originally posted by Bobs_Hardware
Hogan being champion = worst mistake in WWE history.. its horrible
Hogan vs. Flair wasnt too bad IMO.. i just took it as a gimmick match (which it was really).. and Flair TOTALLY outperformed Hogan.. man its pathetic and is ruining ALL our main events having him as champion
i think its good that we are starting to see the young guys come through (except Edge, **** him off somewhere) but the old guys are still getting too much emphasis.. i know Undertaker is close to retirement (after another face turn), how long can they keep playing the SCSA vs. Owner angle?
BookerT joining the nWo? worst idea since giving Hogan the belt.. sure it sorta gives him a push, sorta, but for me, out of ALL the WCW stars that came over, BookerT was doing the best, he was funny, was a GOOD heel, great in ring performer, \'Spinnerroony\' is fantastic.. and he was just starting to get a face push, then they pull this ****
drop Edge totally.. i dont care what anyone says, they have been giving him an ENORMOUS push and he DID NOT deserve it, he has NO moves, NO serious mic skills, isnt big, isnt speedy, still has pretty boy image but tries to pull badass antics.. and is just wasting Angle. Rhyno should have definately won it last year
Cruiser Weight is going OK, but not good enough, there should be some huge 4 way matches and tripple threat title shots, have everything going off. Hardcore is definately the most entertaining of all the titles at the moment, but even there they arent doing enough with it, they have just one segment in the night, they should keep it going backstage and everything. Tag Titles suck, European Title sucks (****ing kill Spike), Intercontinental title is OK though, RVD and Latino Heat are great in ring performers.
BRING CHRIS BENOIT BACK TO WWE! AND DO IT NOW! lord knows we need him. Rhyno would be great too, but thats a ways off.
hurry up and get this damn redneck thing over with, SCSA IMO is passed his used by date, and giving bradshaw one last push (assuming hes near his end) isnt too bad, but.. eh..
i dunno.. too many things wrong, still entertaining tho
and god damn.. did Torrie ever look hot on SmackDown.. agagagagag
William Regal is the current European Champion; Spike was definately a paper champion. And Chris Benoit is set to return from injury real soon, like June, I believe. He\'s on Smackdown, so that\'ll give me reason enough to watch it.
Ha, ha. Tonights main event: Ric Flair vs. Hulk Hogan in a senior citizen/ who needs a diaper change match! God, how pathetic. And yes, Booker T is great, and now he\'s going to go to waste. :mad:
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During Tajiri\'s match, Torrie got psised at him, got on the announce table and stripped her gisha outfit off. She stood up there in her blue undies for a while and Tajiri, irate, yelled at her until he was counted out.
It certainly beat the Hogan/Flair match as far as I\'m concerned. ;]
-Eik
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crap. Maybe she will do it again tomorrow night.
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Originally posted by EmperorRob
crap. Maybe she will do it again tomorrow night.
Almost, but not quite. But how about Trish as a substitute?:laughing:
Tonights Smackdown was a big improvment over the last few episodes. Finally we got to see a good cruiserweight match- a Triple threat-championship match! The way it should be. Hurricane is the new Crusierweight Champion, plus it seem he\'s got a mysterious arch-nemesis.
Maven still can\'t wrestle. Grrr...:mad:
Hogan was crying..? I don\'t really see the point of that, but whatever.
God, I hate Edge, please, somebody get rid of him...:mad:
The main event was FINALLY worth sticking around for. Edge & Triple H vs. Kurt Angle and Chris Jericho. Aside from Edge\'s awful performance, the other 3 were great, especially Kurt\'s suplex off the top rope.
If things continue like this, perhaps I won\'t give up on wrestling just yet. :)
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I\'m thinking Hurricanes Mystery person is Rey Mysterio JR.....he is SIgned and is in the "minors" getting the rust off......should be back in June....or earlier......
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