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		Playstation/Gaming Discussions => Gaming Discussion => Topic started by: Chrono on May 11, 2002, 02:04:57 PM
		
			
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				well, I was out for a whole week on a nice relaxing cruise.. but damn, it must have been a bad time of year (of which time I had no control over) cause there were no chicks anywhere.. buncha fat people.. if thats your taste (they look REALLY horrible when tanning on the top deck... lol)
 
 Anyway, it was the Explorer of the Seas, the biggest cruise ship out there right now for a family reuninion of 42 people :eek:
 
 But, now back to the 2nd edition of a console sales archive :)
 coming up shortly in 5 to 15 mins
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				April 29th - May 5th
 Games Sales from Dengeki
 
 1   Movement fighter cancer dam Ambition of GIREN - account of a JION war of independence -  BANDAI  SLG  \\6,800  2002  May 2  229,727  229,727
 2  World soccer winning eleven 6  KONAMI  SPG  \\6,800  2002  April 25  131,320  536,336
 3  Lock man Zero  Capcom  ACT  \\4,800  2002  April 26  47,567  105,752
 4  From TV animation ONE PEACE grand battle! 2  BANDAI  FTG  \\5,800  2002  March 20  42,729  459,750
 5 King dam HATSU  Square  RPG  \\6,800  2002  March 28  40,152  690,439
 6 Mr. Oji of tennis Genius boys academy  KONAMI  SPG  \\4,800  2002  April 25  39,269  128,063
 7  The first   2002 [ ] the FIFA World Cup  Electro NIKKU arts Square  SPG  \\5,800  2002  May 2  33,565  33,565
 8  Heat CHU! Professional baseball 2002  NAMCO  SPG  \\6,800  2002  April 18  28,799  147,544
 9 In-a-predicament city  Eye rem software engineering  A-AVG  \\6,800  2002  April 25  23,414  75,548
 10  Professional baseball between Japan and the U.S. FINAL LEAGUE  Square  SPG  \\6,800  2002  April 25  15,028  46,633
 
 
 And, the weekly xbox section
 
 29  HALO (HEIRO)  Microsoft  A-AVG  \\6,800  2002  April 25  5,604  30,766
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				April 29th - May 5th
 Console Sales from Media Create
 
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				halo at 30k?
 
 thats pathetic
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				Anything on North America and console sales?
			
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				why would anyone on this forum care about sales anyway?? Especially japan sales?? Makes no sense:confused:
			
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				Anything on North America and console sales? 
 
 When I find it I post it.. USA sales are rare :(
 
 and to Qudohosoh, the console that does well in japan normally dominates, and it has alot to do with what 3rd party games the console will see.
 
 Example, the xbox gets very little from japaneese 3rd parties, while the ps2 has. This is partly due to japaneese ps2 sales, and absolutly horrible xbox sales in japan
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				Originally posted by Chrono 
 
 
 When I find it I post it.. USA sales are rare :(
 
 and to Qudohosoh, the console that does well in japan normally dominates, and it has alot to do with what 3rd party games the console will see.
 
 Example, the xbox gets very little from japaneese 3rd parties, while the ps2 has. This is partly due to japaneese ps2 sales, and absolutly horrible xbox sales in japan
 
 
 Well since xbox is selling good in america. Maybe 3rd parties will release some games only in North America?? Which seems to be the case so far.
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				Quddus, its mainly out of curiosity.. i like to see how well games/consoles are selling..
 
 keep it coming Chrono  :)
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				I like to see how bad the PS2 is wasting the Xbo... *cough* er, nevermind.
 
 
 ;)
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				Here you are the system sales in Japan in the first May week. Download the attached file ;)
 
 PS2 rocks :)
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				Originally posted by QuDDus 
 why would anyone on this forum care about sales anyway?? Especially japan sales?? Makes no sense:confused:
 
 
 Because Japan is THE biggest Gamming market
 
 and the fact that M$$$$$ is going down as well as a fart in a spacesuit, makes it all the more funnyer.
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				New chart and numbers from japan
 
 5/5 - 5/12 Media Create
 
 1 SCE PlayStation 2 54,900 (1,586,300)
 2 Nintendo GameBoy Advance 35,500 (1,130,000)
 3 Nintendo GameCube 7,900 (554,500)
 4 SCE Playstation 3,900 (105,300)
 5 Microsoft Xbox 3,400 (185,000)
 6 Nintendo GameBoy Color 2,200 (46,900)
 7 BANDAI Wonderswan Color 1,500 (81,500)
 8 Sega Dreamcast 300 (14,800)
 9 Nintendo N64 170 (4,100)
 10 BANDAI Wonderswan 170 (3,300)
 11 Nintendo GameBoy 20 (3,600)
 12 SCE PocketStation 20 (800)
 
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 Closeup
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				Ouch.  Bad week.
			
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				Holy crap, look at that dip for the Xbox on those charts.  Ouch.
 
 I\'m interested in seeing the total console sales since they have been released, worldwide, for the three major systems (PS2, GC, and PSX... er... Xbox I guess).  I was looking for it last night, but I couldn\'t find it on a google search.  I\'m not sure what to type in.
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				[delete]:D
			
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				The next chart will be a bit different IMO. The price war in Japan will change the sales... I hope that PS2 is still the winner :)
			
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				hope?
 
 ps2 will still be outselling both GC and xbox combined
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				Consoles sales since 1993
 
 Laser Active 1993.8.20 420,000
 3DO 1994.3.20 720,000
 Sega Saturn 1994.11.22 5.60 millions
 PlayStation 1994.12.03 19.13 millions
 PC-FX 1994.12.04 400,000
 Nintendo 64 1996.6.23 5.52 millions
 Neo Geo Pocket 1998.10.28 550,000
 Dreamcast 1998.11.27 2.80 millions
 WonderSwan 1999.3.04 3.00 millions
 PlayStation 2 1999.3.04 8.95 millions
 GameBoy Advance 2001.3.21 3.82 millions
 GameCube 2001.9.14 1.40 millions
 Xbox 2002.2.22 200,000
 
 it will take the xbox 37 months to catch 3DO at the current rate
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				Originally posted by Chrono 
 
 
 it will take the xbox 37 months to catch 3DO at the current rate
 
 
 :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:
 
 
 poor M$$$$$$ ... poor M$$$$
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				BWUHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
 
 i swear thats the funniest thing i have read this month
 
 37 months to catch the 3DO?
 
 *snicker*
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				Saturn outsold N64...
			
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				saturn had better titles
 
 /me runs and hides from Eik
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				No way... 64, IMO, had better titles than the PS1. :D
			
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				Originally posted by Chrono 
 Consoles sales since 1993
 
 Laser Active 1993.8.20 420,000
 3DO 1994.3.20 720,000
 Sega Saturn 1994.11.22 5.60 millions
 PlayStation 1994.12.03 19.13 millions
 PC-FX 1994.12.04 400,000
 Nintendo 64 1996.6.23 5.52 millions
 Neo Geo Pocket 1998.10.28 550,000
 Dreamcast 1998.11.27 2.80 millions
 WonderSwan 1999.3.04 3.00 millions
 PlayStation 2 1999.3.04 8.95 millions
 GameBoy Advance 2001.3.21 3.82 millions
 GameCube 2001.9.14 1.40 millions
 Xbox 2002.2.22 200,000
 
 it will take the xbox 37 months to catch 3DO at the current rate
 
 
 64 had to sell more than that...it couldn\'t have sold the same amount as Saturn and survived.
 
 Besides, didn\'t the 64 sell over 30 million worldwide?  I know the US and UK didn\'t make up 25 million in sales...
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				I thought PlayStation sold over 80million units worldwide in it\'s lifetime.
 
 I know PS2 has over 30million out there now... at least that\'s what MSNBC says, heh.
 
 
 Are you sure those are right?
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				And those Gameboy advanced numbers can\'t be right...hasn\'t it sold like 40 million already?
 
 And those PSone numbers are weird...if the PS sold 80 million worldwide and only 19 million in Japan then the US and UK would have to make up around 60 million...if that\'s true, then why is it that the Japanese market is so important in they are the minority?
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				Those are japaneese only
			
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				Originally posted by Ginko 
 And those Gameboy advanced numbers can\'t be right...hasn\'t it sold like 40 million already?
 
 And those PSone numbers are weird...if the PS sold 80 million worldwide and only 19 million in Japan then the US and UK would have to make up around 60 million...if that\'s true, then why is it that the Japanese market is so important in they are the minority?
 
 
 Yes usa sold more consoles than japan, but the japanese market is so important because all the developers are japanese.
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				Originally posted by Ginko 
 And those Gameboy advanced numbers can\'t be right...hasn\'t it sold like 40 million already?
 
 And those PSone numbers are weird...if the PS sold 80 million worldwide and only 19 million in Japan then the US and UK would have to make up around 60 million...if that\'s true, then why is it that the Japanese market is so important in they are the minority?
 
 
 you mean.. US, UK, Europe, Asia, Australia?  :p
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				This is a funny thread...
 
 let me explain this to a certain few cause I am a statistics expert.  I\'ll put this simply.
 
 example, and I\'ll be nice...
 
 30 million PS2s
 8 million GCNs
 6 million Xbs
 
 that total number is 44 million consoles sold...
 
 that means PS2 makes up 68% of consoles in the world, GCN 18%, XB 14%.
 
 That means if you release a game on PS2, your sales will do about 82% better than if you release it on X-Box, therefore increasing the amount of third-parties wanting to develop games for that system, therefore increasing the amount of games that system recieves, therefore attracting more buyers, therefore increasing consoles sold, therefore PS2 users are getting more out of their system...
 
 that\'s
 
 sales statistics 101 for ya...
 
 but pretty much I hope that clears things up for you Quddus.   Number of consoles sold is directly poportional to it\'s value and well in this case how well it matches up against other consoles.
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				New Media Create Numbers
 13th - 19th in japan
 S C E PlayStation 2 53,500
 Nintendo Game Boy advance 26,600
 Nintendo A game cube 6,000
 S C E Playstation 4,600
 Nintendo Game Boy color 2,200
 Microsoft Xbox 1,100
 
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 This is the lowest sales performance for the xbox since launch
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				good lord, the xbox is a failure in japan
 
 i could bottle my urine and sell more units
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				*breaking news*
 
 The Xbox price drop in japan has allowed it to surpass the PSX and GCN!! Its amazing.. but sadly, its not
 
 just click the links to view the charts.
 
 Big Chart (http://www.xoing.com/member/brettw//consolecharts/20020626.gif)
 Close Up Chart (http://www.xoing.com/member/brettw//consolecharts/20020626-c.gif)
 
 (Sorry, you have to right click and copy it into another browser.. the host just changed the way it worked)
 
 Wow, what a large spike for a price cut to 24,800 (199.744 USD) :laughing:
 
 I think the japaneese just gave up and started ignoring it.
 
 Nintendo is dropping its price begining of june, which explains its sudden slack.. I wonder how high it will go?
 
 
 exact sales
 SCE PlayStation 2 65,200 1,705,300
 Nintendo GameBoy Advance 30,900 1,187,700
 Microsoft Xbox 7,400 193,600
 SCE Playstation 4,800 114,800
 Nintendo GameCube 2,500 563,200
 Nintendo GameBoy Color 1,200 50,400
 BANDAI Wonderswan Color 1,100 83,600
 BANDAI Wonderswan 500 3,900
 Sega Dreamcast 400 16,000
 Nintendo N64 160 4,400
 Nintendo GameBoy 40 3,800
 
 EDIT:
 
 The xbox was 34800 yen or 280.495USD...
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				WOW, that\'s pretty breathtaking news.. :eek: But what the hell happened to GCN sales? No games or what?
			
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				WOW, that\'s pretty breathtaking news..  But what the hell happened to GCN sales? No games or what? 
 
 Simple, they annouced a price drop in early june
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				140 N64 units sold.. wow.
 
 This system was just about dead 6 years ago.. (right after Mario 64 was finished by the average gamer)
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				Originally posted by mm 
 good lord, the xbox is a failure in japan
 
 i could bottle my urine and sell more units
 
 
 or Get Japanese business men to buy your used underwear, trust me its ture..i have a firend who went out there and she was offered hard Yen to part with her undies.
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				Originally posted by ooseven 
 
 
 or Get Japanese business men to buy your used underwear, trust me its ture..i have a firend who went out there and she was offered hard Yen to part with her undies.
 
 
 Or sell the whole set. The bottles could be used to "refresh" the smell.
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				Just for like some discussion:
 
 I know Japan just has less ppl, but the kids and even adults are much more hardcore gamers than USA and Europe.  I mean a lot of USA kids just buy the console to have, play one or two games and thats it.  In Japan, it is a culture and past time.
 
 But I realized this when noticing that Super SNES/Famicon and PSX had about 25% more games in Japan, some of which were cool games.  USA had no exclusive games whatsoever.
 
 So basically MS are morons for saying that Japan market is not important.  While I do agree that they can get a solid presence in USA due to the ridiculous gullible and stupidity factor of the average American, they can never establish a real presence with the hardcore gamers, which are the money makers for game developers.
 
 It\'s just seems like Xbox will never a real gaming machine but some stupid box that sits in ppl\'s home.
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				Originally posted by ChronicBlunt 
 I know Japan just has less ppl, but the kids and even adults are much more hardcore gamers than USA and Europe.  I mean a lot of USA kids just buy the console to have, play one or two games and thats it.  In Japan, it is a culture and past time.
 
 
 I would like to know where you got your thoughts from...the videogame industry pulls in about 20 billion a year, I would think it hard to say Japan is responsible for the bulk of it.  While I do believe Japan is very important, I think U.S. pulls in at a very close and strong second.
 
 And considering that the average age of an Xbox or PS2 owner is 16-24 would show that it\'s not just kids who are buying these consoles or supporting the market.
 
 The videogame industry is growing every year as more and more people pick it up as a pass-time.  And you also must realize that there are alot more developers in the U.S. today then there were last generation...
 
 But I realized this when noticing that Super SNES/Famicon and PSX had about 25% more games in Japan, some of which were cool games.  USA had no exclusive games whatsoever. 
 
 Most of those are like Hello Kitty, Roommania, Tokyo Bus, Horse Racing and the such.  Games that woud bomb in the U.S.
 
 So basically MS are morons for saying that Japan market is not important. 
 
 I don\'t remember them saying this...
 
 While I do agree that they can get a solid presence in USA due to the ridiculous gullible and stupidity factor of the average American, 
 
 And all the while I thought I just wanted to play games...I guess it was the stupidity factor in me:rolleyes:
 
  they can never establish a real presence with the hardcore gamers, which are the money makers for game developers. 
 
 Actually, I would think that the casual gamers far outweigh the hardcore gamers...define hardcore.
 
 It\'s just seems like Xbox will never a real gaming machine but some stupid box that sits in ppl\'s home.  
 
 Define real gaming machine and tell me how PS2 has already met this criteria...
 
 
 I hope you register, I was getting kinda bored:D
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				I\'m almost positive that N64 has sold 30 million by now.
			
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				Originally posted by Bozco 
 I\'m almost positive that N64 has sold 30 million by now.
 
 
 N64 has sold over 40million I think..