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Playstation/Gaming Discussions => PS3 Discussion => Topic started by: Bossieman on May 12, 2002, 08:53:35 AM

Title: Im not going to buy games that....
Post by: Bossieman on May 12, 2002, 08:53:35 AM
has a crappy NTSC to PAL conversion. I just tried the PAL version of FFX and decided not to get the game, almost 18% of the screen is black, LOL, Do Square think I buy that game when 18 % is black?!?
The game is very slow compared to the NTSC version.
We get the game 1 year after Japan, 6 month after US and we get the version that is worst. Why??
Sorry Square, I´m not giving my money to you.
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Post by: PS2_-'_'-_PS2 on May 12, 2002, 09:00:26 AM
good point (s):laughing:
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Post by: Heat on May 12, 2002, 09:50:09 AM
I was gonna get it till I played it, the borders suck
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Post by: Bozco on May 12, 2002, 12:16:48 PM
It couldn\'t be that bad.
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Post by: kopking on May 12, 2002, 12:41:10 PM
im very pi$$ed at this, i will stillget the game, but i really wished i had a usa ps2, and imported all my games now!!!!
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Post by: seven on May 12, 2002, 01:04:06 PM
I never saw FFX running on my screen (PAL or NTSC), but I can\'t believe that it\'s that bad. Besides, the borders shouldn\'t be a problem since most people probably have a widescreen anyway.
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Post by: Heat on May 12, 2002, 01:20:22 PM
I have a widesreen
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Post by: fastson on May 12, 2002, 02:00:14 PM
I must say this..

Square sux.. Yes they do.. When it comes to PAL games.:sleepy:
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Post by: KillaX on May 12, 2002, 02:46:06 PM
the US version has the bars too...but you get used to them after awhile........it is like widescreen movies.......





:hat:ScottyJ:hat:
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Post by: ddaryl on May 12, 2002, 03:40:48 PM
Its sucks but until the world switches to HDTV this is your bane


I agree ya have to draw a line and take a stand, but how many other gamers will join you

One man won\'t effect a thing
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Post by: kokopuphz on May 12, 2002, 04:34:59 PM
If the borders really do suck, then that\'s really too bad, but the game itself is an awesome game, and isnt that all that really should matter?
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Post by: Zolar on May 12, 2002, 06:19:33 PM
I have heard people on this forum that have complained alot about Pal conversions of games.  ATV Offroad Fury comes to mind, problems with the framerate, etc.
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Post by: on May 12, 2002, 06:28:21 PM
I\'m gonna sound like a retard. What is PAL? No, I\'m serious...
I\'ve pretended like I know what it is. So sad.... So so sad...
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Post by: Tom on May 12, 2002, 07:10:50 PM
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Originally posted by KillaX
the US version has the bars too...but you get used to them after awhile........it is like widescreen movies.......





:hat:ScottyJ:hat:


Yeah, but they\'re not as bad as pal. I\'m sorry you guys have to go through that, but don\'t let it stray you from one of the best games of all time.
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Post by: ##RaCeR## on May 12, 2002, 07:49:50 PM
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Originally posted by Bozco
It couldn\'t be that bad.


Well it is.
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Post by: ddaryl on May 12, 2002, 08:15:17 PM
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Originally posted by iNfEsT
I\'m gonna sound like a retard. What is PAL? No, I\'m serious...
I\'ve pretended like I know what it is. So sad.... So so sad...


PAL is the name of the TV format in Europe and Australia

NTSC is what we have in the states and Japan

The frequency refresh rate is different and I do believe and it forces developers to have to make serious changes to there games to get them to run on PAL machines

devsd usually don\'t bother so they end up with this nast black border that surrounds the screen reducing the viewing area

its pretty much Bull****, and it screws our European and Aussie Bretheren
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Post by: Bozco on May 12, 2002, 08:30:09 PM
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Originally posted by ##RaCeR##


Well it is.


Well that sucks ass, the European and Aussie regions have a lot of business for PS2 so I don\'t see why they **** you over.
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Post by: THE EYE on May 12, 2002, 08:59:03 PM
The mayn diff. between PAL and NTSC is the higher resolution of PAL... PAL has about 600 horizontal lines and NTSC 500 (a bit more or less). Most games are from JAP, so those must be "fixed" to fill the whole screen in PAL-Format, otherwise something is missed = black borders !

FFX PAL isn´t that bad, but if it´s the same problem with FFXI, than I´ll buy the US Vers. of that game !!!
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Post by: Bobs_Hardware on May 13, 2002, 01:49:24 AM
i saw the demo.. and if its as bad as the demo (but reports say its gotten better) then i wont have a problem at all..

nothing will stop me getting my Final Fantasy fix  :)
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Post by: fastson on May 13, 2002, 05:23:56 AM
PAL is actually better than NTSC.. Why cant you yanks change over to our system? :)
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Post by: Ashford on May 13, 2002, 09:26:35 AM
Thumbs Up! to Sega for making their games auto-adjust to PAL and NTSC.

:fro:
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Post by: ddaryl on May 13, 2002, 02:24:42 PM
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Originally posted by fastson
PAL is actually better than NTSC.. Why cant you yanks change over to our system? :)



Its all moot now

in about 3 - 5 years or by the time of the PS3 there will be a HDTV format options on all games

and in about 5 -10 years the world should all be on the same format
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Post by: fastson on May 13, 2002, 02:49:37 PM
I hope they can develop the OLED tech fast enough.. Seems to be the next biggest thing.
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Post by: EmperorRob on May 13, 2002, 09:01:05 PM
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Originally posted by ddaryl
Its sucks but until the world switches to HDTV this is your bane


I agree ya have to draw a line and take a stand, but how many other gamers will join you

One man won\'t effect a thing
Unless he has a big donger.  Unfortunately I don\'t live in Europe