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Title: I am dissapointed in the GC\'s controller
Post by: CS2x on May 18, 2002, 11:35:19 AM: I cannot personally understand how some people say that the GC controller is better than the PS2\'s...yes, the anologue sticks on the PS2 are SLIGHTLY too low, and it IS unoriginal, but it is perfect apart from that. However, the Z-Button on the GC is ridiculous, the D-Pad is utterly useless, and the C-joystick is much too small for my liking and slips out of grip very easily. I agree it does fit into the hand nicely, but the D-Pad, C-joystick, and the Z-button are badly placed.....so third party games would suffer,imo. It works a treat on games specially made for GC (which are normally great anyway) but games like Timesplitters2, which would have to use the Z-Button AND the twin joysticks, would really suffer...I couldn\'t imagine aiming with that C analogue stick.
Title: I am dissapointed in the GC\'s controller
Post by: Ashford on May 18, 2002, 11:42:19 AM: After firing up my new GC last night, I got pretty comfortable with the controller and had little problems with Resident Evil.

Still ridiculously designed.

Whats with the different sized buttons arranged in some silly pattern?

Best controller is still Japanese Saturn.
Title: I am dissapointed in the GC\'s controller
Post by: clowd on May 18, 2002, 12:10:50 PM: the controller gets a 3.5 out of 5 imo

expecially the shoulder buttons - - way to spongy and the d pad hasnt improved much over the 8 bit nintendo controller

i dont i think i remember this correctly but only 1 R1 button?

yeah and all the buttons are put in some mess order with different sizes

simply put the Play station two controller is the best controller ever imo that is why it stayed the same for the new system why fix it if it isnt broke?

as for play station three i hope they keep the same controller
Title: I am dissapointed in the GC\'s controller
Post by: Living-In-Clip on May 18, 2002, 12:44:12 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Clowd
the controller gets a 3.5 out of 5 imo

expecially the shoulder buttons - - way to spongy and the d pad hasnt improved much over the 8 bit nintendo controller

i dont i think i remember this correctly but only 1 R1 button?

yeah and all the buttons are put in some mess order with different sizes

simply put the Play station two controller is the best controller ever imo that is why it stayed the same for the new system why fix it if it isnt broke?

as for play station three i hope they keep the same controller

Spongy?

D-pad hasn\'t improved over the 8bit Nintendo? Nor has any other D-pad. Things like that just don\'t improve. Though it is abit too small.

And it isn\'t an "R1" button. It is the Z button. Agree\'d it is placed in an odd position though.
Title: I am dissapointed in the GC\'s controller
Post by: CS2x on May 18, 2002, 12:56:35 PM: How can you control Resident Evil, out of interest? Because, I couldn\'t ever imagine using that oddly placed D-pad (my hands are very big) or the analogue stick (because, I think, the controls of RE are more suiter to a D-pad since you rotate around with left and right, if you get what I mean....)
Title: I am dissapointed in the GC\'s controller
Post by: clowd on May 18, 2002, 01:10:19 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Living-In-Clip

Spongy?

D-pad hasn\'t improved over the 8bit Nintendo? Nor has any other D-pad. Things like that just don\'t improve. Though it is abit too small.

what i mean by spongy is that the button can be pressed down like an inch too much if you ask me

how can you improve the d pad? make the direction pointers seperate and make them pressure sensitive
Title: I am dissapointed in the GC\'s controller
Post by: shockwaves on May 18, 2002, 01:27:29 PM: I still like that controller the most. Much better than the PS2 controller IMO.
Title: I am dissapointed in the GC\'s controller
Post by: mm on May 18, 2002, 04:34:09 PM: that is why i use one of these, and my GC controller is somewhere in a box dying a horrible dusty death

(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimage.lik-sang.com%2Fimages%2F%2F170%2Fgc-joybox.jpg&hash=b2b113c6fd8c4531916df5d6fc7b89d6fbfcf33b)

dualshock > GC controller
Title: I am dissapointed in the GC\'s controller
Post by: Chrono on May 18, 2002, 04:53:35 PM: you can find that and more at
http://www.levelsix.com

(and no, I don\'t work there... but I did order and had no problems)
Title: I am dissapointed in the GC\'s controller
Post by: jm on May 18, 2002, 06:21:31 PM: mm = so f*ckin cool.

MM > ALL
Title: I am dissapointed in the GC\'s controller
Post by: Blade on May 18, 2002, 06:33:17 PM: The PS2 controller is essentially a perfected SNES controller.. thus it\'s better for some genres.

However, some games (like Pikmin) show the uses of the GCN pad. Playing Pikmin with th\' PS2 adapter.. bleh.

I\'m probably wrong, but I think Miyamoto and company designed the controller after that game.
Title: I am dissapointed in the GC\'s controller
Post by: mm on May 18, 2002, 06:38:21 PM: muh dual shock works so well to drown them damn pikmin

and the RE control? pffffffffft! just like it should be
Title: I am dissapointed in the GC\'s controller
Post by: clowd on May 18, 2002, 07:38:44 PM: Quote
Originally posted by jm
mm = so f*ckin cool.

MM > ALL

mm is the only reason why I come to these boards.
Title: I am dissapointed in the GC\'s controller
Post by: shockwaves on May 18, 2002, 07:40:00 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Clowd

mm is the only reason why I come to these boards.

Actually, he\'s part of the reason I decided to come here in the first place.
Title: I am dissapointed in the GC\'s controller
Post by: mm on May 18, 2002, 07:48:53 PM: good lord guys

dont give me so many compliments all at once, my head will swell

all in all, the GC controller is a hell of a lot more comfortable than the N64 controller
Title: I am dissapointed in the GC\'s controller
Post by: Eiksirf on May 18, 2002, 07:53:47 PM: Oh yeah?! Well... Well, I\'m gonna marry him!!!

Really, the shoulder buttons are my favorite part of the GCN controller, but the other complaints seem pretty valid.

I\'ll tell you what I dislike about the dualshock is how the back either hits my middle fingers, or if I put both fingers on all the shoulder triggers, how the controller wants to fall out of my hands.

Plus the joysticks on it aren\'t as good as the GCN, imo.

I agree with the C-stick, Z trigger, and D-Pad, though.

Still, I do like the button layout much better. Christ, playing Playstation the other day I couldn\'t even find the start button to pause it. Twice I just pressed the hard plastic in the middle of the controller. The second time my little ATV guy crashed! ;]

-Eik
Title: I am dissapointed in the GC\'s controller
Post by: clowd on May 18, 2002, 08:02:29 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Eiksirf

if I put both fingers on all the shoulder triggers, how the controller wants to fall out of my hands.

Still, I do like the button layout much better. Christ, playing Playstation the other day I couldn\'t even find the start button to pause it. Twice I just pressed the hard plastic in the middle of the controller. The second time my little ATV guy crashed! ;]

-Eik

Why do you need to put both fingers on the should buttons? I always just use both my index fingers.

You had probelms hitting the start button? Your probably alone on that one.

You like the Gamecube button layout? Better then the DS2?!?!

:alien:
Title: I am dissapointed in the GC\'s controller
Post by: shockwaves on May 18, 2002, 08:04:55 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Eiksirf
Still, I do like the button layout much better. Christ, playing Playstation the other day I couldn\'t even find the start button to pause it. Twice I just pressed the hard plastic in the middle of the controller. The second time my little ATV guy crashed! ;]

-Eik

Smart man right there. Go GC Controller!

Actually, he\'s another reason why I came here in the first place. I came here simply cause there were a few familiar faces I remembered from the n64cc forums.
Title: I am dissapointed in the GC\'s controller
Post by: mm on May 18, 2002, 08:17:56 PM: yeah, Eik\'s an old school legacy in the online console realm

its always been an honor to know him and read his opinions

/me removes lips from Eik\'s arse

:)
Title: I am dissapointed in the GC\'s controller
Post by: clowd on May 18, 2002, 08:19:37 PM: mm > Eiksirf
Title: I am dissapointed in the GC\'s controller
Post by: Blade on May 18, 2002, 08:43:11 PM: CLOWD: ps2 > gaemcube WORD :clown: :clown:
Title: I am dissapointed in the GC\'s controller
Post by: cloud345 on May 18, 2002, 09:57:25 PM: I was very satisfied with the GC controller and I do think its better than ps2\'s. Although the Z button is in a weird place I barely use it so I have no problem.

Im definently getting wavebird when it comes out.
Title: I am dissapointed in the GC\'s controller
Post by: GmanJoe on May 18, 2002, 10:28:17 PM: That\'s why I got the converter for the PS2 so i can play RE on Gamecube. That d-pad on the GC controller is ridiculously tiny! And using the analog stick makes Jill run like a drunk! Always zigzaging!

With the PS2 D-pad, Jill runs straight as an arrow and can easily dodge even the Hunters at close quarters!
Title: I am dissapointed in the GC\'s controller
Post by: clowd on May 19, 2002, 02:42:37 PM: It\'s amazing how many faults can be found with the GameCube controller but none with the DS2 but somehow the GC controller is considered better. :rolleyes:
Title: I am dissapointed in the GC\'s controller
Post by: shockwaves on May 19, 2002, 02:52:52 PM: None with the dual shock 2? Well, the control sticks are in a much more awkward position. The controller itself doesn\'t fit into your hand as well. Overall, the Gamecube one seems much more natural to me.
Title: I am dissapointed in the GC\'s controller
Post by: clowd on May 19, 2002, 02:57:13 PM: I\'ll put it down to this. Which controller do you want to play RE with? GT3? FPS?
Title: I am dissapointed in the GC\'s controller
Post by: shockwaves on May 19, 2002, 03:27:19 PM: The gamecube one, hands down :p

That might just be me though...
Title: I am dissapointed in the GC\'s controller
Post by: PS2_-'_'-_PS2 on May 19, 2002, 03:41:59 PM: Quite simply i love the ps2 controller - "if it ain\'t broke don\'t fix it!"
Title: I am dissapointed in the GC\'s controller
Post by: SwifDi on May 19, 2002, 03:53:38 PM: Studies actually showed that people who have complaints about specific controllers or acquire injuries through the use of them are excessive masturbators.
Title: I am dissapointed in the GC\'s controller
Post by: shockwaves on May 19, 2002, 03:57:28 PM: Well...

No arguing there :D
Title: I am dissapointed in the GC\'s controller
Post by: QuDDus on May 19, 2002, 05:02:29 PM: Everyone loves something different. I myself hate the Gcn controller I find it too be way to small and I hate that huge fat button in the middle. On the other hand I simply love the xbox controller.

I want a gamecube real bad, but man do I hate the pad.
Title: I am dissapointed in the GC\'s controller
Post by: Bozco on May 19, 2002, 06:13:12 PM: After time I realised that I like the xbox controller so much more than the GC controller.
Title: I am dissapointed in the GC\'s controller
Post by: clowd on May 19, 2002, 06:24:42 PM: MS couldnt even copy the DS2 right $%#$^* fools!

And what was the GC guys smoking when they designed that crap!
Title: I am dissapointed in the GC\'s controller
Post by: Eiksirf on May 19, 2002, 07:14:09 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Clowd
MS couldnt even copy the DS2 right $%#$^* fools!

And what was the GC guys smoking when they designed that crap!

Oh please.

You could take the GCN and PS2 controllers, put them on top of one another and the other would disappear. It\'s the same controller. (Only the GCN one is much more supple and sexy. :))

Supple.

-Eik
Title: I am dissapointed in the GC\'s controller
Post by: Blade on May 19, 2002, 07:47:06 PM: Until you sit down and plays the games for 10+ hours with the Xbox/GCN controllers.. you can\'t say a thing.

Each system has games (like Pikmin and Halo) that play to the strengths of their controllers.

Just because the PS2 controller design is awesome.. doesn\'t mean it\'s the only way to play.
Title: I am dissapointed in the GC\'s controller
Post by: PS2_-'_'-_PS2 on May 20, 2002, 01:41:08 PM: Quote
Originally posted by \\/apor Snake
Studies actually showed that people who have complaints about specific controllers or acquire injuries through the use of them are excessive masturbators.

hehe
Title: I am dissapointed in the GC\'s controller
Post by: SwifDi on May 20, 2002, 03:51:25 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Clowd
MS couldnt even copy the DS2 right $%#$^* fools!

And what was the GC guys smoking when they designed that crap!

Dude, you are such a PS2 fanboy..... It\'s a ****ing controller for god\'s sake...

And K-pax sucked donkey ass.

Just adding my two cents...
Title: I am dissapointed in the GC\'s controller
Post by: clowd on May 20, 2002, 08:23:24 PM: You obvilously dont have class... :rolleyes:
Title: I am dissapointed in the GC\'s controller
Post by: SwifDi on May 20, 2002, 10:00:05 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Clowd
You obvilously dont have class... :rolleyes:

I "obliviously" don\'t have class, or "obviously"...?

And you obviously lack any sort of wide-range opinion. Come on, you are so biased it\'s sickening. You don\'t even attempt to not appear as a fanboy.

You have yet to say one good thing about any Non-PS2 system, because your too biased. Plain and simple. Fanboy.
Title: I am dissapointed in the GC\'s controller
Post by: mm on May 21, 2002, 01:58:38 AM: lol, i love how people think the waord "fanboy" automatically becomes the most insulting word outside of calling him some perhaps more vulgar

:)
Title: I am dissapointed in the GC\'s controller
Post by: SwifDi on May 21, 2002, 08:47:58 AM: Depends how you take it. Doesn\'t have to be insulting if it doesn\'t bother you. IMO, fanboys are narrow minded and 80% of the time their opinions are useless because it\'s so biased.