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Title: Metal Gear Solic SUBSTANCE goes to the box ...but here up its comming to the PS2.to
Post by: ooseven on May 21, 2002, 07:52:50 AM: no date for the PS2 version but here is the details

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The rumors are true. Hideo Kojima and his team of designers at Konami Computer Entertainment of Japan are hard at work on a follow-up to last year\'s critically acclaimed and wildly successful

Metal Gear Solid 2 for the Xbox, and it\'s not Metal Gear Solid X. Called Metal Gear Solid 2 Substance, the game will be shown at E3, almost two years to the day since Sons of Liberty was unveiled, and its name is telling.

Like the Japanese release of Integral for the original Metal Gear Solid, Substance will build on the Metal Gear Solid 2 experience by adding literally hundreds of new VR missions and noteworthy bonus material.

But there\'s more to Substance than just a series of new mini-missions. Among other things, Substance will remedy Kojima\'s controversial introduction of Raiden by letting you assume the role of Solid Snake throughout the entire course of Metal Gear Solid 2.

The game will also let you play as several other characters, including Pliskin and the cyborg ninja. There are even five new episodes completely unrelated to Sons of Liberty that will take you on entirely new adventures with Solid Snake.

Substance is so big, in fact, it\'ll take up an entire double-density DVD disk when it releases for Microsoft\'s console this November. PlayStation 2 and PC fans shouldn\'t be disheartened, however, as Konami is concurrently developing Substance for those other platforms as well.
Title: Metal Gear Solid Substance goes to the X box, but its also comming to the PS2
Post by: ooseven on May 21, 2002, 07:54:43 AM: hey mm if you read this could you edit the title of the thread

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Metal Gear Solic SUBSTANCE goes to the box ...but here up its comming to the PS2.to

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Metal Gear Solid Substance goes to the X box, but its also comming to the PS2.
Title: Metal Gear Solid Substance goes to the X box, but its also comming to the PS2
Post by: Bobs_Hardware on May 21, 2002, 08:35:39 AM: son of a B1TCH!

now i have to buy this to play as Snake and Pliskin n\' all dat :(
Title: Metal Gear Solid Substance goes to the X box, but its also comming to the PS2
Post by: nataku on May 21, 2002, 09:00:25 AM: muah

I\'m glad I didn\'t buy MGS2 now. :D
Title: Metal Gear Solid Substance goes to the X box, but its also comming to the PS2
Post by: Tyrant on May 21, 2002, 09:21:13 AM: cool another MGS :)
cant wait to play the game completley as solid snake
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muah
I\'m glad I didn\'t buy MGS2 now.

why do u say that, u do realise that when MGS2 was announced it took nearly 2 years for it to be released.
i doubt the new MGS will be released any time soon.
Title: Metal Gear Solid Substance goes to the X box, but its also comming to the PS2
Post by: nataku on May 21, 2002, 09:29:51 AM: Personally I think MGS2 was a waste, buying it for $50. If I would buy it right now, I\'d go out and buy it used... it\'s not worth $50, IMO. Very few games released now a days are. They\'re too short, and they have little to no replay value. Why waste $50 on them, only to never play them again... it\'s pretty pointless, if you ask me.

I try to buy all my games used. But with Sony\'s new recommended price of $39.99 who knows, I might buy new games again.
Title: Metal Gear Solid Substance goes to the X box, but its also comming to the PS2
Post by: Bladez on May 21, 2002, 10:33:52 AM: Play as the Ninja and Snake? Metal Gear Solid 2: Substance is as good as mine. Along with GTA: Vice City.:D
Title: Metal Gear Solid Substance goes to the X box, but its also comming to the PS2
Post by: kopking on May 21, 2002, 12:56:19 PM: bt how can i play as snake and pliskin???? sounds good though, but why didnt they put all of this in the originl one... also will this be a add on like intergrlly???
Title: Metal Gear Solid Substance goes to the X box, but its also comming to the PS2
Post by: clowd on May 21, 2002, 12:58:48 PM: MGS2 will be $20 any day now
Title: Metal Gear Solid Substance goes to the X box, but its also comming to the PS2
Post by: Psycomantis101 on May 21, 2002, 01:55:32 PM: You beat me to it. I was just looking to make sure noone posted it already. But here r some screens.

pic 1 (http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2002/playstation2/mgs2s/mgs2s_screen001.jpg)

pic 2 (http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2002/playstation2/mgs2s/mgs2s_screen002.jpg)

pic3 (http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2002/playstation2/mgs2s/mgs2s_screen003.jpg)

pic 4 (http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2002/playstation2/mgs2s/mgs2s_screen004.jpg)

pic 5 (http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2002/playstation2/mgs2s/mgs2s_screen005.jpg)

pic 6 (http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2002/playstation2/mgs2s/mgs2s_screen006.jpg)
Title: Metal Gear Solid Substance goes to the X box, but its also comming to the PS2
Post by: PS2_-'_'-_PS2 on May 21, 2002, 01:59:57 PM: that looks quite cool
Title: Metal Gear Solid Substance goes to the X box, but its also comming to the PS2
Post by: SwifDi on May 21, 2002, 05:16:49 PM: Why would Raiden be on the Tanker? That makes no sense...
Title: Metal Gear Solid Substance goes to the X box, but its also comming to the PS2
Post by: clowd on May 21, 2002, 05:33:31 PM: Raiden = Jar Jar Binks < Solid Snake
Title: Metal Gear Solid Substance goes to the X box, but its also comming to the PS2
Post by: SwifDi on May 21, 2002, 05:48:35 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Clowd
Raiden = Jar Jar Binks > Solid Snake

Uh.. You just said that Raiden and Jar Jar Binks are better (greater) than Solid Snake.
Title: Metal Gear Solid Substance goes to the X box, but its also comming to the PS2
Post by: clowd on May 21, 2002, 05:58:51 PM: There its all better thanks for the heads up
Title: Metal Gear Solid Substance goes to the X box, but its also comming to the PS2
Post by: SwifDi on May 21, 2002, 07:50:19 PM: Anything for a fellow K-paxian.... :laughing:

;)
Title: Metal Gear Solid Substance goes to the X box, but its also comming to the PS2
Post by: Solid Snake 88 on May 22, 2002, 06:08:40 AM: :D:D:D:D:D
I already knew about MGS2:S, but this is more good news.
Thanks ooseven, thanks for all the E3 news.
Title: Metal Gear Solid Substance goes to the X box, but its also comming to the PS2
Post by: Ethan_Hunt on May 22, 2002, 06:43:26 AM: WOW this could be very intresting, i really wish i could have played as snake the whole way through metal gear.
But i can\'t wait to see what they can do with the xbox hardware, hopefully they will change the graphics engine to add better textures and things like that.
But i can\'t wait to see what the other bits are that they are adding, hopefully we will get to fight Arsenal at the end this time(BUT AS SNAKE!!)
Title: Metal Gear Solid Substance goes to the X box, but its also comming to the PS2
Post by: clowd on May 23, 2002, 10:27:34 AM: I wonder what happened to the x box exclusive MGS2 X?

Looks like its just getting a port now. :D
Title: Oh My GOD!!!!!!!!!! o_0
Post by: ManKiller on May 26, 2002, 01:47:33 PM: I was just thinking of something when I was looking at the preview pics of Metal Gear Solid 2: Substance. :rolleyes: Anyway, what I was thinking of was this...
WARNING: SPOILERS AHEAD!!!:
At the end of the game, when you are playing as Raiden, and he\'s naked, they insinuate that the entire thing was set up, and that everything was a test to produce another Solid Snake. (Not physically, but you know what I mean.) ;) What I\'m getting at is this; What if the game we\'ve been playing isn\'t how the story went? What if their roles were reversed in the original game? We\'d all be seeing what really happened, but through the wrong eyes, so to speak. :surprised: That would be a very cool twist. That would also explain the role-reversal that they show in those pics, like how Raiden is in every scene that we used Snake in, and so on. Sorry if I ruined anything by posting this. :confused:
Title: Metal Gear Solid Substance goes to the X box, but its also comming to the PS2
Post by: clowd on May 26, 2002, 01:55:19 PM: So your saying in this version snake will appear nude?
Title: Re: Oh My GOD!!!!!!!!!! o_0
Post by: Knotter8 on May 26, 2002, 11:39:05 PM: Quote
Originally posted by ManKiller
At the end of the game, when you are playing as Raiden, and he\'s naked, they insinuate that the entire thing was set up, and that everything was a test to produce another Solid Snake. (Not physically, but you know what I mean.) ;) What I\'m getting at is this; What if the game we\'ve been playing isn\'t how the story went? What if their roles were reversed in the original game? We\'d all be seeing what really happened, but through the wrong eyes, so to speak. :surprised: That would be a very cool twist. That would also explain the role-reversal that they show in those pics, like how Raiden is in every scene that we used Snake in, and so on. Sorry if I ruined anything by posting this. :confused:

So, you\'re saying that either we were NOT actually playing Solid Snake in MGS1 ; thus concluding that MGS1 was a simulation itself all the time and that Solid Snake is a made up character by the Patriots who are in fact in our reality just Hideo Kojima and his staff ? (So the real player character in MGS1 was some rookie like Raiden playing the Solid Snake VR character)
Or... , you\'re saying that when the Big Shell level commenced in MGS2, that somehow they brainwashed the real Solid Snake and that they led him to believe he\'s the rookie Raiden ? Now that would be an awesome twist - kinda like in the Matrix. I guess then, that in MGS3 he "awakens" from that brainwash and takes on the Patriots/Matrix. The only downside to all this is that we\'ll have to pay the full whack again for that game.
The stuff in MGS2 that makes me think that the 2nd theory is true, is when "Campbell" tells Raiden he\'s gonna change his codename to Raiden and that Raiden objects at first ; "What\'s wrong with Snake ? I feel like some legendary mercanary..."
Then "Campbell" tells him the real Solid Snake is dead which would be false according to the 2nd theory.
But there\'s one thing that could dismiss the 2nd theory ; why wouldn\'t "they" (whoever did brainwash Snake) didn\'t kill him then ? Then the must have thought that his chances as "Raiden" would make him fail - why then not kill him, then his chances would be zero...
Knotter8:eek:
Title: Metal Gear Solid Substance goes to the X box, but its also comming to the PS2
Post by: Ginko on May 27, 2002, 10:33:35 AM: Quote
Originally posted by Clowd
I wonder what happened to the x box exclusive MGS2 X?

Looks like its just getting a port now. :D

That\'s what is was going to be all along...an enhanced port.
Title: Metal Gear Solid Substance goes to the X box, but its also comming to the PS2
Post by: mm on May 27, 2002, 11:37:51 AM: yeah, like onimusha genma and silent hill 2 restless dreams

hope this "enhanced port" gets some sales
Title: Metal Gear Solid Substance goes to the X box, but its also comming to the PS2
Post by: Titan on May 28, 2002, 01:36:23 PM: It looks cool but I won\'t buy it immediatly.
Title: Metal Gear Solid Substance goes to the X box, but its also comming to the PS2
Post by: Simchoy on May 29, 2002, 03:07:53 AM: I too won\'t buy this game right away. Given the fact that I currently own the previous version. Not dissappointed on my previous purchase (MGS2 is a great game). Just wish this was the previous version before.

I might buy it once this version is in the bargin bin, or Greatest Hits.