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Title: Time for some Doom3
Post by: nO-One on May 22, 2002, 11:19:14 AM
Gosh darnit, it looks pretty darn good

http://www.gamespy.com/e32002/pc/doom3b/screenshots.shtml
Title: Time for some Doom3
Post by: BizioEE on May 22, 2002, 01:22:13 PM
Thanks nO-One for the pics...they\'re amazing!

(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.gamespy.com%2Fe32002%2Fpc%2Fdoom3b%2F9.jpg&hash=b92bc36a085fd5387119839a71c6650cb184ac73)
(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.gamespy.com%2Fe32002%2Fpc%2Fdoom3b%2F10.jpg&hash=8732e2c0d4f898a97ae9d86f268cf6fd98c8150c) (https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.gamespy.com%2Fe32002%2Fpc%2Fdoom3b%2F11.jpg&hash=16cb9f6ace584d3edebdc75704369572c53a3d46) (https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.gamespy.com%2Fe32002%2Fpc%2Fdoom3b%2F12.jpg&hash=f6f527ee47973ddf06ee6ffcfb6c74c14cc5a945)

 
:eek:  !!!

Can\'t wait for this game on the XBox!
Title: Time for some Doom3
Post by: ooseven on May 22, 2002, 01:26:09 PM
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Originally posted by BizioEE

Can\'t wait for this game on the XBox!



LMAO:laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:


 sorry BizioEE but something tells me that the X box couldn\'t handle this bad boy

me thinks its a PC exclusive and should STAY that WAY !
Title: Time for some Doom3
Post by: kopking on May 22, 2002, 01:26:39 PM
looks gd, but too clean for me
Title: Time for some Doom3
Post by: Terry Bogard on May 22, 2002, 01:33:22 PM
Bio whats up buddy:D :p


Anyways, Umm, graphically this game would not be as nice looking on Xbox, due to the HEAVY graphical flair it has behind it. So, supposedly with the requirments to run it, you need a 1ghz pc, with a GEforce4(which is better then Xbox anyways) to run this game in its beautiful goodness.


I doubt the Xbox version will look anything like that.
Title: Time for some Doom3
Post by: BizioEE on May 22, 2002, 01:48:51 PM
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Originally posted by Terry Bogard
Bio whats up buddy:D :p


Anyways, Umm, graphically this game would not be as nice looking on Xbox, due to the HEAVY graphical flair it has behind it. So, supposedly with the requirments to run it, you need a 1ghz pc, with a GEforce4(which is better then Xbox anyways) to run this game in its beautiful goodness.


I doubt the Xbox version will look anything like that.


naah...but I\'m sure you\'re joking...do you think Doom3 won\'t look like this on a GF3 ?  ID said XBox can easy handle Doom3...and who does care if I won\'t play it at 1600x1200...
Title: Time for some Doom3
Post by: BizioEE on May 22, 2002, 01:52:51 PM
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Originally posted by ooseven



LMAO:laughing:


 sorry BizioEE but something tells me that the X box couldn\'t handle this bad boy

me thinks its a PC exclusive and should STAY that WAY !


Hey! you\'re laughing at me:mad: ....:)

did I say XBox will handle this kind of resolution?:)  though I truly think it would look amazing on the XBox...

I hope it will be released on the XBox...can\'t I hope?:p

ps: now we\'re good friends and I allow you to laugh at me!
Title: Time for some Doom3
Post by: ooseven on May 22, 2002, 01:56:42 PM
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Originally posted by BizioEE


naah...but I\'m sure you\'re joking...do you think Doom3 won\'t look like this on a GF3 ?  ID said XBox can easy handle Doom3...and who does care if I won\'t play it at 1600x1200...


No hes not joking

i mean look at it this way

HALO Runs at 30 FPS..if your lucky


So WTF do you think DOOM 3 will run on the X box or indeed any console ?

sorry but i don\'t think a 12 FPS DOOM 3 on the Xbox will convert many of us PS2 onwers to (like the X$$$$ top brass have been doing recently) and "jump ship".





:laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:
Title: Time for some Doom3
Post by: BizioEE on May 22, 2002, 02:02:40 PM
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Originally posted by ooseven


No hes not joking

i mean look at it this way

HALO Runs at 30 FPS..if your lucky


So WTF do you think DOOM 3 will run on the X box or indeed any console ?

sorry but i don\'t think a 12 FPS DOOM 3 on the Xbox will convert many of us PS2 onwers to (like the X$$$$ top brass have been doing recently) and "jump ship".



ID said XBox can easy handle Doom3...I believe only talented and skilled guys who know what they\'re talking about:D

ps: Halo is a launch game...and we don\'t expect a launch game pushing a new console...right?
Title: Time for some Doom3
Post by: Bozco on May 22, 2002, 02:08:38 PM
Doom 3 is coming to Xbox so we\'ll see now leave it at that.
Title: Time for some Doom3
Post by: Riku on May 22, 2002, 02:35:42 PM
I\'m with Bozco...I thought it was announced some time ago that it was going to Xbox and PC??

And ooseven, I don\'t know who is more the lamer of comparing what Xbox can/will do because of Halo (a launch game) and how many times you repeat yourself.  You or mm??
Title: Time for some Doom3
Post by: Mr. Kennedy on May 22, 2002, 08:24:43 PM
I don\'t want to hear any X-box fanboy speak of graphics, I have GF4 Ti 4600.

don\'t tell me that X-box can out power my system cause it can\'t, period.
Title: Time for some Doom3
Post by: Watchdog on May 22, 2002, 08:56:53 PM
id did say the xbox could do D3 without graphical sacrifices.  I\'m not sure I believe it either, but that\'s what they say.
Title: Time for some Doom3
Post by: PahnCrD on May 22, 2002, 09:05:06 PM
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Originally posted by "The One" Billy Gunn
I don\'t want to hear any X-box fanboy speak of graphics, I have GF4 Ti 4600.

don\'t tell me that X-box can out power my system cause it can\'t, period.



Hmm.. there are a few things that you overlook with that statement.  

Memory bandwidth, Bus bandwidth... large Windows footprint on the CPU.  Besides... no games are specifically made for your system.  Developers are interested in selling a lot of games.  Sure it will be scalable, but you\'ll never see your systems full potential.

Just look at PSX.. it took a little while for main stream computers to catch up.  Not becuase they weren\'t more powerful, but becuase developers could eek every ounce of power out of the little old machine.

I truly think the x-box will run this game, not at HD but I think it\'ll look pretty damned close to the PC.

As far as judging everything on Halo... give it up.  That game was a very rushed game on limited dev hardware.  It didn\'t use the shaders or many of the GPU tricks that would have made thinks faster.  And frankly even at 30fps.. I see little that rivals it to this day.  at least stuff thats already out anyway.
Title: Time for some Doom3
Post by: Peltopukki on May 22, 2002, 11:18:56 PM
The graphics hardware of X-Box should be able to handle the Doom, but i doubt it can be ported to 64MB of ram and to run all AI physics and stuff with a 733Mhz CPU.

the demonstration at E3 was shown with 2.2Ghz P4 and somesort of Ati graphics card.
Title: Time for some Doom3
Post by: pablo32 on May 22, 2002, 11:46:15 PM
Well considering john carmack has said that the minimum specs for doom3 will be a geforce1 or gf2 mx, there is no reason it wouldn\'t run on an xbox. Also considering that the xgpu has the ability to use pixel and vertex shaders, and multiple textures, and runs at 640x480, there is no reason why it shouldn\'t run at least as well as a computer with a gf3. Now on the other hand, he has outright stated that it would not run on the ps2 without *serious* modifications.
Title: Time for some Doom3
Post by: ooseven on May 23, 2002, 02:21:26 AM
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Originally posted by pablo32
Well considering john carmack has said that the minimum specs for doom3 will be a geforce1 or gf2 .


now let me see

what other game on the X box was desinged to run on a Ge Force 1 or 2 .....


ah yes... HALO :rolleyes:
Title: Time for some Doom3
Post by: Bobs_Hardware on May 23, 2002, 04:04:24 AM
ooseven.. give it a ****ing rest..
Title: Time for some Doom3
Post by: Living-In-Clip on May 23, 2002, 06:26:15 AM
Jesus, the game does look great, there is no denying that.

As for this whole "debate" (it can hardly be called that), Carmack did go on record saying the Xbox would be handle to Doom 3 but I personally don\'t see it being a PC port. If anything, I think we will see the whole game being finely tuned to take advantage of every ounce of power in the Xbox so the game looks close to the PC (aka "very damn good") but not quite up to the PC version (aka "holy friggin\' amazing"). That\'s just my two cents.

Oh yea and can someone please shut up Bio and Rast?
;)

Oh and one other thing. Can we please quit bringing up Halo being 30fps? I mean, sure TimeSplitters was a launch game and ran at 60fps, but it didn\'t exactly push the textures that Halo pushed, now did it?
Title: Time for some Doom3
Post by: fastson on May 23, 2002, 08:06:03 AM
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Originally posted by BizioEE
Thanks nO-One for the pics...they\'re amazing!

:eek:  !!!

Can\'t wait for this game on the XBox!


Sorry friend, no Doom3 on Xbox..


Quote
Some other interesting tidbits that Willits revealed were that Nine Inch Nails\' Trent Reznor did the music and sound for the E3 demo and that he and id Software are currently in negotiations to do the music for the final game. Willits also said that id has no current plans to do an Xbox port of Doom III, though the game could hypothetically run on Microsoft\'s hardware."
Title: Time for some Doom3
Post by: ooseven on May 23, 2002, 08:11:43 AM
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Originally posted by Peltopukki
The graphics hardware of X-Box should be able to handle the Doom, but i doubt it can be ported to 64MB of ram and to run all AI physics and stuff with a 733Mhz CPU.

the demonstration at E3 was shown with 2.2Ghz P4 and somesort of Ati graphics card.


ture

 that was one of the BIG stumbling block to a X box version... i mean they are planning to return to the shear weight of number in the enemy Depertment that Doom 1 and 2 had.

Remember DOOM 3 is not another QUAKE 1 & 2 with only a hand full of Enemys, its going to be all out WAR.

well so i heard....
Title: Time for some Doom3
Post by: Tyrant on May 23, 2002, 08:27:20 AM
are those pics ingame coz if they r then *WOW*
Title: Time for some Doom3
Post by: Watchdog on May 23, 2002, 09:04:14 AM
ooseven, you must have nightly hot sex with your ps2--can you please shut up.  You have to be one of the most useless posters here.

D3 will come to xbox--it\'s just too easy to do for them not to--not to mention the money MS would give them and the sales it would generate.  So I think we can safely assume that it is coming.  id themselves probably won\'t do it, but someone will port it under their supervision.

And who are any of us to say it can\'t be done, when Carmack himself says it can be done faithfully with little to no sacrifices, I\'m inclined to believe him, but that\'s just me and I don\'t screw my ps2; opinions may vary.
Title: Time for some Doom3
Post by: fastson on May 23, 2002, 09:06:04 AM
Watchy:

Willits also said that id has no current plans to do an Xbox port of Doom III, though the game could hypothetically run on Microsoft\'s hardware."
From GameSpot
Title: Time for some Doom3
Post by: seven on May 23, 2002, 09:15:01 AM
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Oh and one other thing. Can we please quit bringing up Halo being 30fps? I mean, sure TimeSplitters was a launch game and ran at 60fps, but it didn\'t exactly push the textures that Halo pushed, now did it?


L-I-C, I believe no one in here was comparing Halo to TimeSplitters. But I do wonder how much the texture quality would have improved, if TimeSplitters were to run at 30 as well...

Anyway, those screens are very impressive indeed...
Title: Time for some Doom3
Post by: Watchdog on May 23, 2002, 09:26:10 AM
I know that faston, id NEVER does ports, they give it to other devs to do.  So id has no plans for a port, and it is coming to xbox can be true at the same time.
Title: Time for some Doom3
Post by: Ashford on May 23, 2002, 10:09:32 AM
Nice to see you back, Watch...

And those screens remind me more of Resident Evil than Doom...

:fro:
Title: Time for some Doom3
Post by: ooseven on May 23, 2002, 10:54:36 AM
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Originally posted by Bobs_Hardware
ooseven.. give it a ****ing rest..


don\'t worry people of PSX2central... we havent fallen out. infact we are still lov,,,, errrmmm GOOD FREINDS ;)

in fact  Bobby is just off to bed.......i should know becuase i tucked him in ;)
Title: Time for some Doom3
Post by: nataku on May 23, 2002, 11:09:36 AM
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Originally posted by ooseven


don\'t worry people of PSX2central... we havent fallen out. infact we are still lov,,,, errrmmm GOOD FREINDS ;)

in fact  Bobby is just off to bed.......i should know becuase i tucked him in ;)


:laughing:
Title: Time for some Doom3
Post by: ooseven on May 23, 2002, 11:13:58 AM
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Originally posted by nataku


:laughing:


It was juat a peace offering to smoothing things over..i am sorry :( :crying:


OK lets make this a PEACE offering to the X box fans


DOOM 3 WILL be on the PC some time soon

with a VERY /EXTREMLY HIGHLY likely Apperiance on ye Trusty X box !

now please for the love of god some one delete this post before DirectXbox see\'s it ;) !
Title: Time for some Doom3
Post by: SonyFan on May 23, 2002, 12:51:39 PM
Impressive isn\'t even close to words I\'d use to describe DOOMIII. In a game like Silent Hill, Resident Evil, or such.. yeah.. I\'d say impressive. But this is a FPS shooter we\'re talking about.. Ton\'s of onscreen enemies and superfast action.. it\'s just.. well mind blowing. I can\'t wait to play it.

One thing bother\'s me tho. The name... Doom III. How much will it really have in common with the Doom brand? I mean.. Doom\'s simplicity was it\'s elegance. It was simple, fast, furious demon killing fun.. and it still is considered one of the best FPS\'s around to this day. With the amount of graphics that Doom III is pushing, it makes me wonder how much they had to sacrifice (if they had to sacrifice at all) from the gameplay. Will it live up to it\'s predecessors?

Oh.. and I could give a fukk less what platform it\'ll appear on. I\'ll have them all anyhow. :D
Title: Time for some Doom3
Post by: rastalant on May 23, 2002, 09:35:58 PM
Doom 3 is looking amazing.......very impressives.............:eek: :eek: Doom 3 what?
Title: Time for some Doom3
Post by: Peltopukki on May 23, 2002, 11:39:46 PM
Here\'s Url: for the high FPS version of the History of doom video with interview and some Doom3 content.


http://195.145.119.170/download3/games/e3/doom_iii_legacy_high.zip
Title: Time for some Doom3
Post by: ooseven on May 24, 2002, 12:18:44 AM
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Originally posted by rastalant
: Doom 3 what?



rastalant  IS STONE COLD STEVE AUSTIN ;)
Title: Time for some Doom3
Post by: BizioEE on May 24, 2002, 05:05:37 AM
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Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
Oh yea and can someone please shut up Bio and Rast?
;)



I AM A HUGE NERD!
Title: Time for some Doom3
Post by: Bobs_Hardware on May 24, 2002, 06:24:09 AM
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Originally posted by ooseven



rastalant  IS STONE COLD STEVE AUSTIN ;)


and its ****ing annoying..
Title: Time for some Doom3
Post by: Peltopukki on May 24, 2002, 08:05:41 AM
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LOS ANGELES--(BUSINESS WIRE)--May 24, 2002-- Id Software(TM) has chosen ATI\'s next generation graphics architecture as the platform for previewing their unbelievably realistic and much anticipated DOOM III(TM) at this year\'s E3 Expo.

Nice.. looks like its time for upgrade.

http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/020524/242087_1.html
Title: Time for some Doom3
Post by: ooseven on May 24, 2002, 11:59:35 PM
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Originally posted by Bobs_Hardware


and its ****ing annoying..


Bobby Watch that mouth

Do you kiss Racers mom with that Tounge ..? ;)
Title: Time for some Doom3
Post by: Bjorn on June 03, 2002, 06:17:10 AM
was going to buy a GF4 4200 for UT2003 and coming games, then I saw DOOM3 and well.... if you want to run that game with sweet frame rate and high detail a gf4 won\'t cut it...
Ordered a cheap Gf3 now, will get a new card when D3 comes out :)

here\'s a qoute from the man himself:

"Our "full impact" platform from the beginning has been targeted at GF3/Xbox level hardware. Slower hardware can disable features, and faster hardware gets higher frame rates and rendering quality. Even at this target, designers need to be more cognizant of performance than they were with Q3, and we expect some licensee to take an even more aggressive performance stance for games shipping in following years."

another one:

"I told everyone that I was going to demonstrate Doom III on the best hardware, and there has been no collusion or kickbacks or anything like that going on. Our objective is the technical merit The new ATI card was clearly superior. I don’t want to ding NVidia for anything because NVidia has done everything they possibly could; but in every test we ran, ATI was faster."

Sounds like an interesting card, it\'s coming this fall I think :)
Title: Time for some Doom3
Post by: GmanJoe on June 03, 2002, 06:30:25 AM
TechTV, the other night, said that the Xbox wouldn\'t have the same graphical qualities that the PC could deliver for Doom3.

I saw the footage. Amazing. And though it will come to Xbox, don\'t expect the same smooth resolution.
Title: Time for some Doom3
Post by: Samwise on June 03, 2002, 09:08:21 AM
I couldn\'t be arsed to read the whole thread, but wasn\'t Doom III shown @ E3? The Xbox version didn\'t run on full detail graphics wise because of tech difficulties, AFAIR ("as far as I remember", I just made that up ;)). Besides, it would most likely run at 640 x 480 anyway.
Title: Time for some Doom3
Post by: nO-One on June 03, 2002, 11:00:10 AM
Personally I\'ll couple this game with a Matrox Parhelia, I want the uber 2d quality, and it should be an excellent 3d performer aswell. It does have 4 vertex units whereas the gf4 has two. And twice the memory bandwidth of the gf4 4600.

However I\'ll still hold on to see how the initial reviews will be.
Title: Time for some Doom3
Post by: Watchdog on June 03, 2002, 12:43:43 PM
No the xbox version wasn\'t shown at E3.
Title: Time for some Doom3
Post by: mm on June 03, 2002, 12:51:10 PM
no-one, are you willing to pay 600$+ for the Parhelia

what about when matrox crawls back into the closet after wasting millions in venture capitol?
Title: Time for some Doom3
Post by: Toxical on June 03, 2002, 07:37:58 PM
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Originally posted by Peltopukki

Nice.. looks like its time for upgrade.

http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/020524/242087_1.html


Upgrade, i\'m getting a new rig as we speak,
P4-2.53 +Asus P4T533-C motherboard. 512MB RDram + Ti4200
might as well get the party started right, and i will upgrade my Vidcard as soon as there is something to upgrade to lol in the mean time Ti4200 should be alright.
Title: Time for some Doom3
Post by: nataku on June 03, 2002, 07:42:30 PM
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Originally posted by Toxical


Upgrade, i\'m getting a new rig as we speak,
P4-2.53 +Asus P4T533-C motherboard. 512MB RDram + Ti4200
might as well get the party started right, and i will upgrade my Vidcard as soon as there is something to upgrade to lol in the mean time Ti4200 should be alright.


You can OC that Ti4200 really well... to Ti4600 speeds with the stock HSF from what I hear.  Good choice. :D
Title: Time for some Doom3
Post by: nO-One on June 04, 2002, 09:19:22 AM
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Originally posted by mm
no-one, are you willing to pay 600$+ for the Parhelia

what about when matrox crawls back into the closet after wasting millions in venture capitol?

I won\'t get the top of the line version, I have no need for all the extra stuff on it, like TV out and video editing stuff, all that extra hoo haa that costs a whole lot of hoo haa\'s.

I\'m actually willing to spend a little more on a Matrox card than a card from rival companies, simply because Matrox spends a whole lot of time making sure I\'m getting the proper image quality on my screen. Read some of the tech articles on sites like firingsquad (http://www.firingsquad.com) take a look at the steps they took to make one get the best image quality available.

However, if the Parhelia\'s end up being extremely expensive and underperformers I\'ll get an ATi or nVidia card instead.
Title: Time for some Doom3
Post by: Ryu on June 04, 2002, 09:24:47 AM
(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.penny-arcade.com%2Fimages%2F2002%2F20020524l.gif&hash=1b840af5038cb358d04f3d1d598dc54580df3857)

tee-hee. :)
Title: Time for some Doom3
Post by: EmperorRob on June 04, 2002, 02:00:11 PM
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Originally posted by BizioEE


ID said XBox can easy handle Doom3...I believe only talented and skilled guys who know what they\'re talking about:D

ps: Halo is a launch game...and we don\'t expect a launch game pushing a new console...right?
I read somewhere Carmack said u need a GF4 or higher.