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Non Gaming Discussions => Off-Topic => Topic started by: videoholic on May 25, 2002, 06:28:54 PM
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Stupid smokers. That looks nothing like the Malboros from the Final Fantasys.
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wtf.. Someone got bored.
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That\'s one of the funniest things I\'ve ever seen!
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hehehe..thats interesting yet disturbing all at once.
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Deathsticks...I dont want them
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Originally posted by Clowd
Deathsticks...I dont want them
same here, I prefer life
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Originally posted by "The One" Billy Gunn
same here, I prefer life
so you prefer in prolonging the inevitable? Some people who smoke never face detrimental effects.
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:laughing: Funny...
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The root page has some pretty funny pictures!
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Originally posted by luckee
so you prefer in prolonging the inevitable? Some people who smoke never face detrimental effects.
Maybe you should rethink your life.
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Originally posted by Clowd
Maybe you should rethink your life.
why should I rethink my life? I live to the fullest. So again I ask, why should I rethink my life?
maybe you should..ahh..nevermind...
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Personally, I don\'t like em anyway. I don\'t really see how using them helps you live to the fullest anyway. Oh well, I\'ll take my anti smoking ass elsewhere...
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Originally posted by shockwaves
Oh well, I\'ll take my anti smoking ass elsewhere...
oh yes... please do.
couldn\'t resist.. But who cares if people wanna smoke and waste money, gain risk of lung cancer, and all those other things that can ruin a person.. It\'s their life.
But I\'m not gonna smoke anyways.. Or so I don\'t think I will. lol
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Smoking is just like drinking. Some do, dome don\'t. I personally don\'t do either (Nelson:"Ha ha!"), but I don\'t fell any resentment towards those that do.
"It\'s yer life, do what ya want! I\'m not yer mama!"
Cool beans. :thepimp:
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Originally posted by shockwaves
Personally, I don\'t like em anyway. I don\'t really see how using them helps you live to the fullest anyway. Oh well, I\'ll take my anti smoking ass elsewhere...
Since you used some choice words of mine....why are you ASSuming I\'m saying smoking is living to the fullest? I didn\'t once say that. I don\'t even smoke..well cigs any..but thats another thread....
So I hope you are feeling fine ASSuming
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Yeah, well, at least I\'m not smoking crack cocaine.
*Looks around nerviously... twitches*
Sides, who cares if it takes the last 10-15 years offa yer life. Those years are crappy anyhow. Yeah.. like I\'m really gonna miss not having the oppertunity to wake up in the morning in excrutiating pain as my joints sieze up... changing my diaper cause I can\'t make it to the bathroom anymore... and having to take a full course breakfast worth of medication (bout 600 to 1200 dollars worth) every day just to keep my heart, liver, kidneys, pancreas, intestines, anus, eyes, ears, lungs, prostate, gaul bladder, and whatever else from shutting down and killing me within 24 hours.
Ya know what? Old age is highly over-rated.
*Lights up another cigarette and blows the smoke in Clowd\'s direction*
F... U...
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You go girl! Lol, you\'re cool SonyFan.
*applauds you*
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Originally posted by SonyFan
*Lights up another cigarette and blows the smoke in Clowd\'s direction*
F... U...
I also love you sonyfan!!!!!!!!
I quite smoking cigs a few months ago..I cheat every now and again..usually when drinkin...
Anywho..I love how non-smokers wanna do so much...just for smokers..only to live a few years longer.
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My assistant and her husband smoke. We herass her about it a little bit sometimes. I was saying how much I missed having a maid to clean up my house and how I can\'t wait for Lona to get back to work. She was like, "You had a maid?" She and her husband smoke a total of over 2 packs a day. Say about 60 packs a month. That\'s a couple hundred bucks. Oh and they drink too. Tack on at least a 6 pack a day to that. so there is another 100 bucks.
What I wouldn\'t do to have another 300 bucks a month.
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2 packs a day? ouch
i have a smoke every few days or so, when i leave work frustrated
and the VERY occasional *cough*, ummmmmmmm, THC fix
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Originally posted by SonyFan
Yeah, well, at least I\'m not smoking crack cocaine.
*Looks around nerviously... twitches*
Sides, who cares if it takes the last 10-15 years offa yer life. Those years are crappy anyhow. Yeah.. like I\'m really gonna miss not having the oppertunity to wake up in the morning in excrutiating pain as my joints sieze up... changing my diaper cause I can\'t make it to the bathroom anymore... and having to take a full course breakfast worth of medication (bout 600 to 1200 dollars worth) every day just to keep my heart, liver, kidneys, pancreas, intestines, anus, eyes, ears, lungs, prostate, gaul bladder, and whatever else from shutting down and killing me within 24 hours.
Ya know what? Old age is highly over-rated.
*Lights up another cigarette and blows the smoke in Clowd\'s direction*
F... U...
:laughing:
but!!! if you survive to old age the effects of smoking can be VERY.. frightening to youngsters..
i dont think ive ever met a man over the age of 70, who is also a strong smoker, that didnt scare the **** out of me. ever.
plus, your older years are transferred BACK onto your young years in some cases
plus you waste lots of money
plus there is a likelihood that you wont see past your 30th birthday
plus it has been proven that everybody that smokes on a regular basis has a 100% chance that their penis will fall off
if you smoke you are more likely to grow wooden legs
if you smoke while wearing your pants on your head your pants will catch on fire
anyone who smokes while giving oral sex gives their partner a nasty burn
anyone who smokes while receiving oral sex is just wishing the situaton was reversed
samwise has a shaggy penis with all sorts of skin flaps hanging off all over the place
shaggy from scooby doo smokes and he is a complete dork.
scooby doo guest starred in an episode of lassy where lassy smoked and lassy\'s penis fell off and scooby doo took it and dunked it in a glass of milk
Pakistani people
if you catch a bus naked they will throw you off and spit on your mother
MOO MOO!!!!!!
mamma makesa mah pasta witha larve
rockets go up
its unbelievable i cant wait for next week
(_))::::::confused: <<<--- Racers penis
im chewing on various caramel treats
people who smoke generally smell and have bad breath
SonyFan smells and has bad breath
Clowd spams, yet i cannot look away
please.. please....................yayayayayayayayLOL!!!1111111111
OMFG taht is so teh funy!LOL!!!1```~``~~~~!LO!L omgLOL yo uare such a faget LOL OMG j/k soryr j/k LOL yoo have teh tinny bloo pen1s LMAO!! OLOLOLOL~~11``~~``` :D ehehe im j/k u no i luv u kay??
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i rest my case..
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Originally posted by SonyFan
Yeah, well, at least I\'m not smoking crack cocaine.
*Looks around nerviously... twitches*
Sides, who cares if it takes the last 10-15 years offa yer life. Those years are crappy anyhow. Yeah.. like I\'m really gonna miss not having the oppertunity to wake up in the morning in excrutiating pain as my joints sieze up... changing my diaper cause I can\'t make it to the bathroom anymore... and having to take a full course breakfast worth of medication (bout 600 to 1200 dollars worth) every day just to keep my heart, liver, kidneys, pancreas, intestines, anus, eyes, ears, lungs, prostate, gaul bladder, and whatever else from shutting down and killing me within 24 hours.
Ya know what? Old age is highly over-rated.
*Lights up another cigarette and blows the smoke in Clowd\'s direction*
F... U...
I agree with all of what you said about old age. Sad but it think it sums it up perfectly. How many senior citizens are in good heath mentally and phsyically? Very few.
Stands in front of Clowd and inhales all the smoke because I am a smoker. (Oh yea and Clowd seems like a nice guy).
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Smoking is the most retarded thing you could do.
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"Deathsticks", "I don\'t want them", and "Maybe you should rethink your life" are all lines from Star Wars Ep2.
lol
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Yeah, well, at least I\'m not smoking crack cocaine.
*Looks around nerviously... twitches*
Sides, who cares if it takes the last 10-15 years offa yer life. Those years are crappy anyhow. Yeah.. like I\'m really gonna miss not having the oppertunity to wake up in the morning in excrutiating pain as my joints sieze up... changing my diaper cause I can\'t make it to the bathroom anymore... and having to take a full course breakfast worth of medication (bout 600 to 1200 dollars worth) every day just to keep my heart, liver, kidneys, pancreas, intestines, anus, eyes, ears, lungs, prostate, gaul bladder, and whatever else from shutting down and killing me within 24 hours.
Ya know what? Old age is highly over-rated.
*Lights up another cigarette and blows the smoke in Clowd\'s direction*
F... U...
Haha.. Hilarious.. I love it.:laughing:
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Originally posted by Tom G
Smoking is just like drinking. Some do, dome don\'t. I personally don\'t do either (Nelson:"Ha ha!"), but I don\'t fell any resentment towards those that do.
"It\'s yer life, do what ya want! I\'m not yer mama!"
Cool beans. :thepimp:
well id say smoking is not like drinking... i mean stand next to fag smoke stinks ( as a non-smoker) also smoke comes across, and stuff..... while someone may drink a drink next to you and it doesnt make you cough etc.... i know some drinks may smell strong, but stand a few feet away and you dont smell it, while you can smell fags when standing a distanc away....
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Yeah, smokers don\'t just hurt themselves, they hurt others. How lame is that.
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hehe:laughing:
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Originally posted by luckee
Since you used some choice words of mine....why are you ASSuming I\'m saying smoking is living to the fullest? I didn\'t once say that. I don\'t even smoke..well cigs any..but thats another thread....
So I hope you are feeling fine ASSuming
I\'m sorry for my ASSumptions. That was just the feeling I got from the string of posts before mine.
Anyway, I think smoking and drinking are very different in a lot of ways, as kopking said. I\'m sure smoking\'s worse for you...
So, yeah. I\'ll show myself out again.
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Pain and Suffering...
I\'d rather be suffering in pain at the age of 80, than at the age of 40.
Not to mention how horrible and painful lung cancer is, but that\'s beside the point.
Oh well I\'m not the one spending $11,000 a year poisoning myself, with $11,000 you could buy a car, plus lots of other cool stuff.
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Yeah, smokers don\'t just hurt themselves, they hurt others. How lame is that. - Bozco
*Punches Bozco in the face as hard as he can*
Hmmm.. yer right. Smokers do hurt others. Now go cry to mommy about how the big bad smoker is hurting you. Really, you\'d be amazed at how much stuff people do that adversely affect the people and enviroment around them. Smoking is just one of them. If you\'re going to demonize cigarettes like that, then you\'d best be prepared full on all out war on the cause and effects of living in human civilzation or be prepared to have your double standards exposed.
i mean stand next to fag smoke stinks - kopking
Heheh... gotta love British slang. Hey Bobby H... got a fag I can smoke. :D :P
Smoking is the most retarded thing you could do. - Bozco
I actually agree with that. I don\'t reccommend smoking, I just don\'t like people poking their nose into my buisness and whining like little b*tches about how I\'m "hurting" them when they have no idea the amount of harmful pollutants, carcinogens, and isotopes that are floating around them.
Oh well I\'m not the one spending $11,000 a year poisoning myself, with $11,000 you could buy a car, plus lots of other cool stuff. - 1 Billy Gun
Woah there buddy.. hold the fu*king trolley. Who\'s been feeding you those wacked numbers? Truth.com? 11,000 a YEAR?? Are critically stoopid or something.. who spends that much on smokes a year? If you\'re smoking THAT much then you\'d long dead before your new "car" ever reaches it\'s first oil change. Lets see.. I spend 25 bucks a week on smokes. That\'s 25 x 52 = 1,300 a year. Even if I was smoking 3 packs a day, that\'d only be around 4,000 dollars.
Please dood, 1,300 a year is nothing when broken into 25 dollar segments. I\'d end up spending that at the vending machines at work through the week... and then die of a heart attack at the age of 40 because of all the junkfood I ate.
I would like to shake the hand of the man who smokes 25 packs of cigarettes a day. (According to 1BG\'s 11,000 a year number)
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Originally posted by SonyFan
Woah there buddy.. hold the fu*king trolley. Who\'s been feeding you those wacked numbers? Truth.com? 11,000 a YEAR?? Are critically stoopid or something.. who spends that much on smokes a year? If you\'re smoking THAT much then you\'d long dead before your new "car" ever reaches it\'s first oil change. Lets see.. I spend 25 bucks a week on smokes. That\'s 25 x 52 = 1,300 a year. Even if I was smoking 3 packs a day, that\'d only be around 4,000 dollars.
Please dood, 1,300 a year is nothing when broken into 25 dollar segments. I\'d end up spending that at the vending machines at work through the week... and then die of a heart attack at the age of 40 because of all the junkfood I ate.
I would like to shake the hand of the man who smokes 25 packs of cigarettes a day. (According to 1BG\'s 11,000 a year number)
Bozco is now officially OWN3D by SonyFan!!!!!!
Did I mention I love you sony?(in a non-homosexual way :) )
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Originally posted by luckee
Did I mention I love you sony?(in a non-homosexual way :) )
Me too, in a completely homosexual way of course. ;)
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Originally posted by luckee
Bozco is now officially OWN3D by SonyFan!!!!!!
No, not really. All he did was say "Don\'t ***** because I\'m an ignorant bastard."
Oh, and Sonyfan 2nd hand smoke is worse than you think. My friend\'s dad smokes and my friend could have been the best cross country runner in the state but the 2nd hand smoke has ruined him. 2nd hand smoke is worse than you think so don\'t act like it is some little small thing. If you wanna kill yourself atleast keep it to yourself.
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Originally posted by Bozco
No, not really. All he did was say "Don\'t ***** because I\'m an ignorant bastard."
Oh, and Sonyfan 2nd hand smoke is worse than you think. My friend\'s dad smokes and my friend could have been the best cross country runner in the state but the 2nd hand smoke has ruined him. 2nd hand smoke is worse than you think so don\'t act like it is some little small thing. If you wanna kill yourself atleast keep it to yourself.
No..he did own you..and still does....
Secondly..what makes you so positive yer friends dad\'s smoking ruined his xcountry hopes???? Is yer friend handcuffed to his old man???
Life is about choices my friend...
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God, it hurts, Bobo\'s on fire! :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:
(must\'ve smoked with his pants over his head)
I love you Bob... :)
And that pic was kinda... err.. I examined i t enough so if someone has a couple of empty boxes I can do dat too. Fun! Me, never smoked, never will, waste of money and health :)
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Down here in ole NJ, we have a new tax on cigs, and boy people were pissed, oh well, don\'t care, I\'m not killing myself.:rolleyes:
Anyway, 14 bucks per pack. So someone who smokes 2-3 packs a day, on a daily basis. (365 days a year for you knuckleheads)
that comes to oh 10,220. Sorry, that\'s still a lot of money.
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All he did was say "Don\'t ***** because I\'m an ignorant bastard. - Bozco
Not quite. See, ignorace comes from not knowing or by keeping yourself blind to the truth. I, however, do know the effects of smoking.. both first and second hand. It\'s not Ignorance Bozco, it\'s apathy. I don\'t give a f*ck, and I take offence to anyone who decides that it\'s their place to judge me or to try and change me. What is this the crusades? Kill the hethens, before they infect our young\'uns with their detestable smoke! ?
Don\'t you guys just hate how people from big cities, (EXPECIALLY LA) ***** about second hand smoke? Don\'t want us polluting all your nice healthy smog now do they? There are so many pollutants and chemicals in the air given off by car exhausts, foundries, chemical factories,... human civilization, that you\'re going to get contaminated anyhow.
Honestly, and I\'m not trying to use this as a scapegote or to "lessen" the effects of smoking in any way, but I believe a big reason why you\'re seeing a lot of lung cancer increases in the last half of the 20th century is because of all the nuclear testing we did. Do any of you have any idea just how many nuclear and hydrogen bombs we set off in the atmosphere for our tests. Those isotopes don\'t die out for.. hmm.. how many thousands of years and are still floating around in our atmosphere? Anyone have records from 1900 to 2002 on the amount of recorded Lung Cancer cases crossed with the increase in population?
Not to try to take the focus away from the dangers of cigarettes, as they are streight up poison chocked full of carcinogens, but it wouldn\'t surprise me in the least if they weren\'t the only reason for the increase in lung cancer. And it just goes to show that smoke isn\'t the only dangerous cancer causing substance out there you have to worry about.
Anyhow, 1BG, I\'d like to see a link to a news artical explaining the new tax on smokes in NJ. I haven\'t heard it.. and if it\'s true, it can\'t be used as any kind of a strong argument because 98% of smokers don\'t live in NJ. Even so, NJ\'s a small state, and it\'s not really going to drecrease the amount of smokers in that state. What it will do, is decrease the amount of cigarette sales in that state.. meanwhile sales of cigarettes ALLLLLLL around the border of NJ will increase exponencially.
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14$ a pack? no way
they can get chiba for less than that
you dont like second hand smoke?
move. simple as that
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All I have to say is that just because other pollutants are in the air doesn\'t make it right for you to add more. Being a smoker is about as selfish as you could be. Oh, and you can spew **** out to me all you want Sonyfan, I know I\'m getting the better end of this deal. It\'s just funny that you spend 1,300$ on something that is killing you.
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The best thing about arguing with a smoker is that the non smoker will always win. Just keep on arguing and the smoker will eventually die. You can then go on living the other half of your life.
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do you guys eat mcdonalds?
do you drink alcohol?
yer slowing killing yerselves, and yer paying for it, no?
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I only eat vegetables that I grow myself and eat chickens that I raise in a henhouse out back. I have a purified air filtration system in my house and I never leave home without my own oxygen bottle. I apply 180 sunblock on my skin and moisturize every hour on the hour.
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Originally posted by mm
do you guys eat mcdonalds?
do you drink alcohol?
yer slowing killing yerselves, and yer paying for it, no?
I eat very little fast food and I don\'t drink. Oh, and eating fast food is different considering your stilling filling yourself up while smoking is pointless and hurts you and others more.
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Actually eating fast food can be dangerous to others as well. What if a fatass sits on your hand? Or makes it impossible to see in a theatre?
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I know I\'m getting the better end of this deal. It\'s just funny that you spend 1,300$ on something that is killing you. - Bozco
Yeah, I\'m killing myself, and the funny thing is.. you\'re more upset about it than I am. Awww.. Boz.. I didn\'t know you cared so much. :D *Big ole wet sloppy kiss* It\'s my decision, and I don\'t need you making it for me. Why are you so focused on my adding pollutants to the air, when you have probably (1 in a million chance or more.. litterally) have never done a single thing to stop people from driving without mufflers, protested a new chemical factory from opening up shop in town, or even took a serious look at the EPA standards and weither or not your area meets them. Why am I singled out? Simple.. Easy.. Target. You\'re just on a witchhunt.
Fu*k man.. I bet you don\'t even recycle. How can you judge me for doing harm to the enviroment and hurting other people when you do the same thing in a not-so-direct manner??
BTW: When was the last time you checked USDA standards? I work in a poultry plant.. and lemmie tell ya.. there\'s some NASTY NASTY shyt that could kill you much faster than cigarettes that is about a hair away from going into the food you eat. It\'s USDA approved tho. Did you know that the next time you eat anything with duck product in it, there\'s a one in 5 chance it came out of my plant... cooked in an oven that\'s bottom consistes of a concrete slab sitting on bare earth. When a rack gets pushed in.. 5 years worth of caustic acid, duck grease, bits of floor patch, industrial cleaners, and a whole host of other nasty shyt wells up around the edges and cooks in there with the duck.
Now, that\'s just my plant. We\'re what Frankie considers a "USDA officer\'s dream"... can you imagine what goes into all the other food you eat every day? Man.. you just have no idea...
Cigarettes are dangerous yes.. but there\'s a WHOLE host of other shyt out there thats just as - if not more - dangerous than Ciggys. Unless you\'re willing to pick up the banner for a healthier tomorrow and fight the cause to your fullest.. then please get off my back about how I\'m "Killing myself".
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Well of course there is other **** out in the world but I can\'t just go and ***** at them. Yes, your an easier target. Oh, and smoking has no plus side to it. It doesn\'t produce something like a factory does. Not saying that any factory is allowed to produce all that pollution. And I don\'t mind if you kill yourself.
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Well... in a round-about way.. smoking does produce something. The money garnered on cigarettes goes to giant corperations who then filter that money down into it\'s subsidiaries for R & D on new projects and testing products. Much of that money also goes out to charities and research funds. It\'s called a tax write off.. MS does the same thing.. and it benefits both parties. That\'s why there\'s a tax write off.. to encourage big buisnesses to give away their money to non-profit organizations and to help fund research programs. The taxes the state garnishes off of cigarettes (which is quite a bundle) also go to help build safer roads, more productive schools, put more cops on the streets, and build more efficent hospitals.
So personally, I\'m not helping myself by smoking.. but in an offbeat way every cigarette I smoke helps pay to make someone else\'s life a little better. Not to mention that Tobacco is a billion dollar buisness.. and that money going back into the economy is far greater than what is spent on medical bills for the uninsured.
And you\'ve also basically conceded that the only reason that you\'re complaining is because you have an easy target to complain to. Thanks.. that clears alot of stuff up. You could go after any number of thousands of sources for toxic chemicals in our atmosphere and condem them.. but no.. you complain about me because it requires little to no effort on your end. Congrats man, you\'re really a savior you know that. :rolleyes:
And if you don\'t care weither I\'m killing myself or not, then why do you keep brining up the point that I am? You obviously care to some digree.. even if it\'s just to make a point in your favor. However, that point is only won if I cared and was concerned about my health. I don\'t care. So who comes out ahead in this argument? Not you....
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dizamn!!!!!
SonyFan-4
Bozco-0
BTW..yer still OWN3D bozco
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Originally posted by luckee
dizamn!!!!!
SonyFan-4
Bozco-0
BTW..yer still OWN3D bozco
Yeah your close. Score
Boz-1
Sonyfan-0
He smokes I don\'t, I live longer life and can actually run. I\'d like to see Sonyfan run a 5k.
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Originally posted by Bozco
I\'d like to see Sonyfan run a 5k.
Hell, I don\'t smoke and I prolly couldn\'t do that (even though I don\'t know how long that is - I\'m not the running type :D).
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5k= roughly 3.1 miles A true test on how well in shape you really are.
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i can see it now
bozco gets run over by bus while running his 5k
sonyfan walks by smoking a camel, shakes his head at bozco, and walks to 7-11 for another pack of camels
ask jim fixx how good running is for you
sorry about that heart attack from running jim, here have a smoke
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oh the irony of it all
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Originally posted by Bozco
5k= roughly 3.1 miles A true test on how well in shape you really are.
Oh, you could just have said km. ;)
I would collapse after 3 km.
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The wierd thing about that picture is that guy died on my birthday.
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thats fate trying to tell ya something bro
:)
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Originally posted by Bozco
The wierd thing about that picture is that guy died on my birthday.
There, you see - running = teh evil!!
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Sh*t dood, but you gotta ask the question... why would I want to run the 5k?????? I hate sports, and I hate running. We would go to the quarter-mile track in Middle school (back before I was smoking) and I don\'t think I ever ran that SOB even one. The mile in HS? Forget it.. I don\'t need cigarettes to cause me to be out of shape.. just plenty of Mountain Dew, Recies Peanut Butter Cups, and lots of good videogames to play.
Oh.. it\'s not like I could run the 5k anyhow even if I didn\'t smoke and was in fairly decent shape. Did I mention the fact I\'m Athesmatic?
BTW mm: Camels? Ugh.. those things will kill ya. I smoke Basic Menthol 100\'s. Not as good as Newports or Marlboro Menthol.. but they\'re cheap and I\'m flexable.
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I didn\'t say you would ever want to run a 5k but being able to would sure show how long you might live considering it shows the shape you are in. If you couldn\'t control something like being born with athesma why would you want bring more problems to your life on purpose.
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Originally posted by Bozco
why would you want bring more problems to your life on purpose.
Why wont you give up trying to be someones crusader? Something I just thought about, I saw a piece on George Burns a few years ago. He was asked he he had any tips on living so long. Guess what he said, smoking 3 cigars and 4 martini\'s a day? He made it to over 100 years old.
Just food for thought.
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Hey, fine I don\'t care if he kills himself. Just get his 2nd hand smoke out of my way. And Sonyfan I don\'t want to hear about all the other pollutants in the air.
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If you couldn\'t control something like being born with athesma why would you want bring more problems to your life on purpose. - Bozco
Because my smoking has never caused problems with my Athesma. In fact, in the 22 years I\'ve had this disease I\'ve actually grown mostly out of it. Attacks come much less frequently and with less severity than they had when I was younger. I.E. Also before I started smoking. The only time my lungs DO constrict is when strech them out consistantly.. like.. when you\'re breathing heavily while doing excersizes. And I don\'t think you understand what I said above either... my LIFESTYLE is one that completely contradicts physical fitness. I\'m not a fat slob, but I don\'t excersise regularly. Mostly I just do my job at work, and come home to sleep & play videogames. That\'s it. A simple life.. but it keeps me content.
And Sonyfan I don\'t want to hear about all the other pollutants in the air. - Bozco
Because you cannot debate against that. You want to keep this a simple witch-hunt and I\'m not allowing you to.
Just get his 2nd hand smoke out of my way. - Bozco
There\'s a lot of air between Warsaw Indiana and Pinkerton, Ohio. Sure the internet connects us all and makes the world a smaller place.. but I really doubt my cigarette smoke is traveling that far and forming that cancerous lump in your lungs right now...
I\'m not trying to force you to see my point of view.. and I\'m not trying to say you should just STFU and suck it up.. act like a man. I\'m not saying you have to like my decision.. You need to respect my decision for what it is.. MY decision. I don\'t jump into non-smoker\'s cars and light up without first asking them if they mind. I don\'t blow my smoke in the resturant to the non-smoking section on purpose. I try to respect a non-smoker\'s decision and accomodate them. I wish that attitude was shared by non-smokers alike.. but hey.. if you feel you have to go on a personal crusade to make you feel better about your life, then I guess we can drag this out for a few more posts.
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Hey, thats cool I see where your coming from, its just smoking in general just really drives me nuts if you couldn\'t tell.
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Makes me horny.
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did you guys know, because my father smoked I have chronic asthma. I have to take 2 inhalers, Albuterol and Serevent, twice daily, not to mention a pill called singular just so I can breathe. At that, it prevents me from excelling in sports. Asthma is a scary thing, smokers don\'t realize it, but I have to suffer a worse fate than them. If you want your children to have asthma, go ahead and smoke. I have to deal with CHRONIC asthma, and there is nothing I can do now. That\'s ok, it\'s "their" choice.
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Tidbits...
http://healthyliving.hapcorp.org/asthma/a_smoking.htm
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Sucks to be you 1BG. Really tho, as someone with the same disease and having heard plenty from my doctors about it throughout the years.. smoking is only one out of a marid of different factors which can cause athesma. There are quite a few (roughly 40% last time I heard) athesmatics who live in non-smoking families and had not been exposed to large ammounts of cigarette smoke. Can you ~PROVE~ that it was your father\'s smoking which caused your condition?
BTW: I take singulair too. In fact, I was one of the first human recipients of the drug after it was approved by the FDA waaayy back in 1995. Of course, I only have one inhaler which I use on average of about MAYBE once or twice a week. Depends on if something good is on Comedy Central or not. :D Granted, my Athesma now is not on par with what you\'re dealing with.. but it was at one time.
Don\'t try to lay a pitty trip on me.. I know full well what it is to be a child laying in bed wondering why you can\'t just breath normally like other kids and wondering if you fall asleep, will you wake up in the morning or suffocate to death. I\'m not so arrogant and self-pittying to try and blame my father (who also smoked) when I have no idea weither or not he had anything to do with my contracting the disease.
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Heheh.. nice try 1BG.. really informative site there. It lists that secondhand smoke can trigger athesma ATTACKS, but nowhere does it mention second-hand smoke triggering the disease. Then it goes off on a rant about how to quit smoking. I would hardly call those "tidbits". Here, try this site out for size.
http://www.forces.org/evidence/evid/asthma.htm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/health/newsid_839000/839448.stm
http://www.burgerme.co.uk/pages/info.html
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/health/newsid_1562000/1562147.stm
Now THESE are tid-bits. If you\'ll notice, there\'s a lot of conflicting information between the above four links. My point in posting this is NOT to try to absolve cigarette smoking from being a cause of Athesma.. but to illustrate to you a sample of many - MANY - different causes of Athesma. Everything from Dust mites, household cleaners, chemical pollutants (found in the air), to even poor diets.
Before you lay your cards down, be sure you have a hand worth playing. Maybe you should just fold now...
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Hey, thats cool I see where your coming from, its just smoking in general just really drives me nuts if you couldn\'t tell. - Bozco
Yeah, it\'s cool. I see where you\'re comming from too. It\'s just that people who try to tell me what I can and cannot do with my own body really drives me nuts if you couldn\'t tell. :D
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Granted, I accept your opinion. But may I ask one question, and only one.
Why do you smoke?
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3 Reasons.
1. I enjoy it.
2. I\'m addicted.
3. I\'m addicted.
Does that answer your question? I\'d try to quit.. but I enjoy them too much at the present time. When I cease to enjoy them, then I\'ll look into methods to help me break my addicition.
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I just wanna throw something in here, both of my parents smoke regularly, and i can run a 6 minute mile. 2nd hand smoke hasn\'t affected me in the 14 years I\'ve been living with it, but hey, i might be lucky.
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enjoy it how, a feeling?
chew gum
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im an ex smoker so i know how it goes
i havent had one in several months, but before then i would have one a day. why would i do this? cause i enjoyed it. there\'s nothing like a ciggarette after sex or a big meal.
boz, yer not any better than any smoker out there, so i dont see why you find it so offensive. im sure yer chronic masterbating could be deemed offensive to others
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Originally posted by "The One" Billy Gunn
enjoy it how, a feeling?
chew gum
like mm said..when when I was smoking(clean for 5 months now) great after nice meals..good sex..hell even after a great self inflicted handjob :D If I were working on the car and got pissed of..Id take a moment..smoke..go back a little more calm.
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Both my parents smoke. In the 20 years I lived with them I haven\'t had any noticeable sideeffects of their smoking - but perhaps I was just lucky, dunno. Anyways I don\'t take it all that seriously. They can decide for themselves if they want to smoke. And if second hand smoking will kill me some 5 years before I normally would, then what... it\'s not like I knew I would live to be 95 instead of just 90. Life it short, and believe me, there are worse things out there than cigarettes.
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1BG, chewing gum is nothing like smoking a cigarette. Actually, you can smoke and chew gum at the same time.. so why don\'t I just do that? :rolleyes: That was weak man.. you can do better than that. Is it so hard to believe that some people actually like smoking? Some people like the feeling of warm smoke filling their lungs, the taste and flavor, and calming of nerves durring or after a strenious activity?
So anyhow, what kinda gum do you recommend 1BG? Gotta have sugar free, cause the good stuff rots your teeth.. and my teeth are about as weak as they get due to all the speeders I used to take and bad genes. *Picks up a pack of Extra SugarFree gum and looks at it* OOohhhh what\'s this? It contains Sacrin as a sugar substitute.... may cause cancer in some cases.
Geeze.. that was helpful. :rolleyes:
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Originally posted by mm
boz, yer not any better than any smoker out there, so i dont see why you find it so offensive. im sure yer chronic masterbating could be deemed offensive to others
Actually I would say I\'m better in some ways. Like the fact that I am in better shape. Also remember that I never said I was better than any smoker, I just said its very ignorant to smoke. But like Sonyfan said its your choice. Its just a shame that innocent people get sick from all the second hand smoke.
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Originally posted by Bozco
Actually I would say I\'m better in some ways. Like the fact that I am in better shape.
you dont know that for a fact. For example, do you have any idea how many pro athletes smoke and still compete with the best of them with little to no problem keeping up.
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Originally posted by luckee
you dont know that for a fact. For example, do you have any idea how many pro athletes smoke and still compete with the best of them with little to no problem keeping up.
I\'m sure a lot of pro athletes smoke a pack a day.:rolleyes: And just because they are able to preform well in a certain sport doesn\'t mean they are actually in great shape. They could just be built right but not be in so great shape.
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Gosh, all this started after a pornographic pictre of two cigarette packs doing it dog style.
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Originally posted by Videoholic
Gosh, all this started after a pornographic pictre of two cigarette packs doing it dog style.
yea, in this place..go figure :D
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i guess we should stop driving cars, mowing our lawns and farting to protect yer delicate lungs boz
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you know when it comes to smoking id rather suck on cars exhaust pipe:crap:than inhale second hand smoke from cigs.
and that\'s how much i hate smoking.
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i swear you guys would live in a frickin bubble if you could
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Originally posted by mm
i swear you guys would live in a frickin bubble if you could
seriously... I wonder what they would do if they knew what was being used to help grow the fruit and veggies they eat, or what the animals they eat are injected with. How about space trash that can come crashing down.
There are so many things in life much more offensive and dangerous than smoking, yet people always want to attack smoking.
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All I have to say is I hate those godamn "Truth" commercials...
They make me want a cigarette.
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Originally posted by LUKE
All I have to say is I hate those godamn "Truth" commercials...
They make me want a cigarette.
not me...
anyway, I accept there are plenty worse things than smoking, but it is in no way shape or form, a good thing. On another note, that feeling of smoke filling your lungs is the deterioration of your lungs, so more or less a poison. None the less, it\'s each person\'s decision whether or not they do it, I\'m not here to judge anyone. However, doesn\'t the foul stench it leaves behind bother you?
Anyway, if you do want to try to stop, if your strong enough that is, there\'s nicorete(sp?), and I believe they make patches as well.
Oh well, that\'s it for my two cents.
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well thank you billy... for telling me the same things ive heard 100,000 times.
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a know lots of people that only smoke socially
do they do it for nicoteen?
i certainly dont, i used to do it cause i enjoy the tranquil head rush it gives me. i would limit myself to one or two ciggarettes a day. is that detrimental to my health? am i gonna die of lung cancer?
you know that gratifying feeling you get after you eat a giant thanksgiving feast? thats yer arteries hardening.
suddenly, i think of you anti-smokers and i think of "soylent green" how odd
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well i aint run in a while, but last time i di, about 6 months ago, i ran 3.5 miles in 22 mins..... and thatwas when i was 19.. and i hadnt done any/much sports since i left school.. so that about 3 years
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anyway, I accept there are plenty worse things than smoking, but it is in no way shape or form, a good thing. - 1BG
And ya know what... I\'ve been agreeing with you on that point. We all have pretty much. You\'re just starting to sound like a broken record now. If you wanna continue to debate, it would probably be a wise idea to get a new point.
On another note, that feeling of smoke filling your lungs is the deterioration of your lungs, so more or less a poison. - 1BG
Well DUH.
However, doesn\'t the foul stench it leaves behind bother you? - 1BG
Not at all.
And as for nicorette, I don\'t need it. I\'ve already "tried" to quit smoking a few times just to see what it\'s like to go without a cigarette for longer than a day & a half. I don\'t feel it\'s anything that even remotely impossible for me to accomplish.. even if it\'s going to completely suck ass until my body adjusts to not having nicotine again.
Besides, you\'re talking to a guy who\'s been doing Cocaine casually on and off for the past 7 years. Anyone who has any experience with this drug knows that if you do it right, you\'re pretty much addicted instantly. Well, yer not quite hooked that fast... but pretty fukking -FAST- none-the-less. And there is no Nicorette patch for it. So I\'ve got a bit of experience in testing my limits and breaking addiction already. When you do Coke, you HAVE to know your limits.. and you HAVE to learn to keep within those limits. Period. There is no alternitive aside from sucking c*ck for pocketchange.
Heh, I gotta laugh cause everyone is so focused on how I\'m "hurting my body" by smoking.. when none of you have even the slightest idea the amount of chemicals and drugs I ingest each year which are far - far more expensive and damaging than tobacco. Kinda ironic.. jus a few of those many things that are "far worse than cigarettes".
Oh, and luckee... I do know what kind of pesticides, chemicals, and stereroid compounds go into the food we eat. I work in the food industry. And it\'s true what they say... you don\'t wanna know.
you know when it comes to smoking id rather suck on cars exhaust pipe - Tyrant_246
Gee, that\'s not cliched. :rolleyes: Where\'d you get that line from? A "Just say No" Tee-Shirt from the 80\'s?
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Originally posted by mm
i guess we should stop driving cars, mowing our lawns and farting to protect yer delicate lungs boz
Yes, you should:D :evil:
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*Farts in Bozco\'s general direction*
:D
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"now go away before i am forced to taunt you a second time, english pig-dog!"
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Sort of reminds me of how racecar drivers say if they werent racing they would be doing something else dangerous...
think about it
dont say anything
just think about it
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Originally posted by Clowd
Sort of reminds me of how racecar drivers say if they werent racing they would be doing something else dangerous...
think about it
dont say anything
just think about it
Hehe. I get it.
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:laughing: been smoking for 33 years got more miles and gear than the earth is round in circumfrence :laughing: and i am in good shape could probly walk to store for another carton of marlboro but i would rather drive :laughing:
lites up and blows smoke like an old 49 ford lol
:thepimp:
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Just wait until emphazeema comes up and bites you in the ass.
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Originally posted by Titan
Just wait until emphazeema comes up and bites you in the ass.
or not
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Originally posted by luckee
or not
Or yes.
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Originally posted by Titan
Or yes.
no..it is not a given that if one smokes they get cancer and the rest of that nasty chit.
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I know. But they can\'t taste, hardly smell and have trouble running and can develop asthma, heart disease and lung cancer. Depending on the type of tobacco (chewing, smoking), you could get certain cancers. I am very anti-tobacco.
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Originally posted by Titan
I know. But they can\'t taste, hardly smell and have trouble running and can develop asthma, heart disease and lung cancer. Depending on the type of tobacco (chewing, smoking), you could get certain cancers. I am very anti-tobacco.
So mind yer business and continue not to smoke. Also, everything you just said is also not a given to a smoker, just likely.
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I wasn\'t saying that only smokers got cancer, heart disease and emphasema. I was just saying that they are more likely to get it.
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any pollutants (weed or tobacco smoke) going into yer lungs WILL give you problems
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But we were talking about tobacco (or atleast that\'s what I was talking about).
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ok then, tobacco smoke = evil
thats why i quit
but smokers know this, and dont care
so why should anyone try to play saint and re-tell them over and over again about the hazards on smoking?
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Originally posted by mm
ok then, tobacco smoke = evil
thats why i quit
but smokers know this, and dont care
so why should anyone try to play saint and re-tell them over and over again about the hazards on smoking?
exactly, no better than some police officer telling you to wear yer seatbelt. People should me more concerning with saving themselves in this world, rather than everyone else.
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if I went and drank ammonia would anyone have a problem with that?
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Originally posted by "The One" Billy Gunn
if I went and drank ammonia would anyone have a problem with that?
not at all b/c it doesnt affect me. Sure youo would be missed on these boards, but other than that..drink up :D
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Wow. I\'d hate to ever debate SonyFan about anything. I used to think that I was a pretty good debater, but I don\'t think i would\'ve been able to debate a point better than SonyFan did.
Anyhoo.. I smoke. I race down the freeway going over 100mph in traffic. I fart in crowded trains. I piss in the shower. I pick my nose. Will I eventually kill myself? More than likely. Do I like it when people try to stop me from doing things that I do? Absolutely not. The reason being that telling someone that something that they\'re doing, or something that they believe in is wrong is like simply denouncing their existance. What one does and what one believes in is part of their identity. Unfortunately everyone does things for their own reason, and most of it is selfish and self-centered. But that\'s life. deal with it. No one wants anyone else sitting there telling them not to do something, cuz its something that they\'re doing from their own liking, and that\'s simply that. If it\'s adversly affecting you, then do something to protect yourself, but don\'t go around denouncing other people\'s existance.
But then again, I probably denounced someone\'s existance by putting up this post.. Oh well, forgot about it.. moving on.
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I once got a BJ from an albino midget.
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Originally posted by mm
but smokers know this, and dont care
so why should anyone try to play saint and re-tell them over and over again about the hazards on smoking?
See you don\'t cover everything when saying that. Smokers also hurt other people with 2nd hand smoke so it should be brought up to them. Yes, I know what your going to say Luckee. BUT NO.
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I doubt its "I dont care I\'m killing myself"
More like "I\'m addicted and I cant stop"
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Isn\'t making a smoking section in a restaurant like making a peeing section in a swimming pool?