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Playstation/Gaming Discussions => Gaming Discussion => Topic started by: Chrono on May 28, 2002, 12:53:54 PM
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"Matt: Metroid Prime gameplay: Roughly seven hours, I\'m told. A short, but sweet game. "
When I read this I about cried.. the game looked so good at e3.. and now to find out it may be only 7 hours!?
What do you think?
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Another great game that might be ruined by short gameplay. :(
Lets just hope it has a lot of replay options.
What\'s wrong with developers lately? MAKE GAMES LONGER YOU MORONS!
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Actually, 7 hours is just about the perfect lenght IMO for this type of game. Unless it\'s an RPG, I tend to lose interest in a game after 8-10 hours, and a FPS adventure game with 7 hours of stuff is perfect.
Some of my favorite games of this type are much, much shorter:
Bionic Commando
Metroid I and II
Super Mario 3
Goldeneye
ZOE (a bit too short)
GTA3
You should also double their estimate:
FFX "can" be finished in 30 hours. It takes most people 60-90 with secrets/char leveling
Goldeneye "can" be finished in a couple of hours, again, it takes people 8-10 with most secrets... and much much longer with all.
GTA3 "can" be finished in a few hours, but most people played it through for 10-20 hours.
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Let\'s see how long the game is for ourselves.. 7 hours could mean anything. I mean, you can technically beat a game like RE:R in 2 hours but it took me 18 the first time through because I didn\'t rush.
Pikmin took me 5-7 hours to beat the first complete time through.. but the replay value had me playing at least an additional 20 hours after that.
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No one doubts the greatness of Super Metroid, and yet the game could easily be beaten within a few hours. I believe you even got a special ending if you beat the game in 45mins or so. You all forget, as long as it plays great it will be great.
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i will still buy it :)
looks like great fun.. 7 hours isnt that short..
*goes and plays Altered Beast*
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It\'s all about multiplayer. Does it have any?
If not, I can\'t say I\'m interested.
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Originally posted by Watchdog
It\'s all about multiplayer. Does it have any?
If not, I can\'t say I\'m interested.
From what I hear, no.
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7 hours isn\'t that bad compared to The Bouncer\'s 35 minutes.
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Originally posted by Watchdog
It\'s all about multiplayer. Does it have any?
If not, I can\'t say I\'m interested.
since when has metroid ever been multiplayer? so that said, doesnt bother me if it isnt.
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Originally posted by luckee
since when has metroid ever been multiplayer? so that said, doesnt bother me if it isnt.
Well when you think of a console FPS you think of mulitplayer. Well atleast I do.
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RE in 2 hours????
I still can\'t beat 5 hours.
:surprised
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Heh, it would probably take me about 3 months to complete. In fact I can\'t even remember me ever completing a game. Wait, that\'s not true - I did finish Metal Gear Solid, because it was so truely awesome.
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Am I the only one is the world that thinks that graphically this game looks weak, and I have never played a metroid game so i cant comment on the gameplay
I would still buy it if its good, ZOE and Onimush were short but very sweet and I bought them
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ANY FPS gets boring if you don\'t have good multiplayer. I don\'t care how good those "7 hours" are, it won\'t be worth it at the end of the day without being able to frag a friend or three.
That "7 hours" is also highly dubious. I almost alway finish a game well before the advertised time--especially FPS.
This is a rental for me. MGR, I have to disagree, the graphics look quite nice.
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I think the graphics are pretty nice, nothing special, but nice. Everything is well modeled, but lacks something to make them look realistic, i can\'t put my finger on it.
That said, I will rent this game. I never got into any Metroid, especially Super Metroid, #1 game of all time by EGM. I can\'t see myself beating an FPS more than a few times through by myself. This game needs multiplayer, could be the next Halo, if it does.
Eric Jacob
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I beat Super Metroid in about 7. I guess it isn\'t that bad. I\'ve played through Super Metroid about 3 times and I\'m going to do it again soon.
It won\'t have multi-player since it\'s more an adventure game than an FPS.
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yeah, but it is still "shoot this, flip this, kill this, open this" etc.
I still question why they put it into FP viewpoint anyway.
Eric Jacob
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Sorry, Altered, but if you\'re going by EGM\'s 100 Greatest Games Of All Time list, then Super Metroid was not #1. I don\'t think it even placed anywhere on the list.
#1 game of all time was Tetris, which I\'m sure most will agree.
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It was Super Metroid.
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Super Metroid did get #1.
I disagree with that call.. but it\'s what EGM gave it.
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Super Metroid was awesome. Original was much harder though.
Sounds like Metroid Prime might only be worth a rental but who knows.
FPS multiplayer is mad old anyway. SO played out. Need games like Red Faction, Renegade and Castle Wolfenstein to keep that genre interesting
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Super Metroid got #1 greatest game of all time.
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Originally posted by AlteredBeast
yeah, but it is still "shoot this, flip this, kill this, open this" etc.
I still question why they put it into FP viewpoint anyway.
Eric Jacob
I think they did since its the growing trend.
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They claim FP was chosen because so the traditional narrow pathways and corridors could be navigated. Something like that. Also the team has plenty of experience with first person.
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Originally posted by Bozco
I think they did since its the growing trend.
then im surprised its not Cell-Shaded..
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Well i think thats long enough. Sure it could be longer but thats sounds fine to me.:fro:
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Originally posted by Bobs_Hardware
then im surprised its not Cell-Shaded..
What makes you think they won\'t pull a Zelda:D
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We must be thinking of different lists or different mags because I know for a fact that SM was NOT #1.
My list was from the 100th issue of EGM, the one with the most famous characters in gaming all over the cover. (Sonic, Mario, Crash, Link, DK, etc.)
If SM did place somewhere on the list, I know it was definitely NOT #1. That honor went to Tetris, which makes perfect sense.
A simple, addictive puzzler, 2 players, almost infinite replay value, available on almost every gaming device out there, several versions, how could it not be #1?
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I am getting sick of short games too....I used to buy games and enjoy them for weeks, but now I finish games in less than 10 hours and I don\'t tend to replay them for the sake of it...
The last long-ish game I played was Super Monkey Ball. Now, that was fun!
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We are all talking about EGM\'s 100 Best Games Ever, featured in issue 150. Tetris placed #2 Super Metroid #1.
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7 hours to play?
:rolleyes:
100 best games ever? But only 7 hours of gameplay
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I think you are freaking out alittle early, Chrono. Almost every game can be beat in under five hours, including the supposely great MGS2. Even Resident Evil : Rebirth can be beat in under two hours if you know what you are doing (my best time is 2 hours and 25 mintues. ). A game like this, (FPS) has to be short, otherwise the player will lose interest....
As for Clowd (:rolleyes: ) you can be sarcastic about it, but it only shows your lack of knowledge. Super Metriod is considered one of the greatest games because of gameplay, the game was almost completely non-linear. Everyone could play it different and it had what seemed to be endless amounts of depth. It could last a long time if you wanted, or it could be gone through as quick as you wanted. That is the true test of a good game.
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Well, it will be a great experience, hopefully it gives me a reason to play it through multiple times :D
It has been in development for a long time, and this is nintendo :)
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and this is nintendo
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That doesn\'t mean anything anymore.
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That doesn\'t mean anything anymore.
Wow, why do you say that? Other than their tremendous lack of originality when it comes to new characters, I think they are doing just fine re-introducing their franchise characters with every console. What exactly did you mean by your statement? Or did I just sum that up already? ;)
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Games are meant to be fun, and the new nintendo games are looking to be a blast!
So what if they use the same characters?
They are doing new things, and exploring differnt places..
I watched some videos of mario and it looked ok, but what made me excited is how much fun it looked like it would be to play..
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Pretty much. N ran out of ideas years ago. They\'ve been recycling for so long that it\'s lucky their primary audience is kids, because they don\'t know what N did with the Nes or Snes.
N\'s games aren\'t bankable anymore, aren\'t blockbusters and when they are they are so few and far between that I\'ve given up caring.
If the public had half the patience and forgiveness for Sega that they inexplicably have for N, Sega\'d still be in the hardware business, making boat-loads of cash with the Dreamcast.
N is the darling of the video game industry, everyone bows down at their feet and sucks their @*$%!.
The N64 had no business surviving the console war, but they did largely on the backs of two titles. Sega bends over backwards only to be ****ed in the ass and cast aside. It\'s a shame because N isn\'t what they were when they released the SNES. Back then they were hungry and innovative and the best in the world.
Now they\'re complacent, resting on their laurels, feeding the public their cocain. No one wants innovation anymore, Sega has proven that succinctly over the past 5-7 years. The public want fat plumbers, killer vegetables, primary colors, and talking animals.
I want to be challenged once in a while both in design and content. N hasn\'t done that for years and when they have/do it\'s too late or\'s been too long.
That\'s my rant, I don\'t know, it\'s probably because I\'m tired.
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N\'s games aren\'t bankable anymore, aren\'t blockbusters and when they are they are so few and far between that I\'ve given up caring.
Sure.. :rolleyes:
Lets see how they sell this fall..
They only won many E3 awards, these uninspired and recyclyed games..
Face it, the GCN rules and will rule even more this fall
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That\'s funny, because I didn\'t say it wouldn\'t sell and I wasn\'t predicting a catastrophy.
Reading comprehension is a wonderful thing.
I can\'t say you are a smart person Chrono. I can say you are very very stupid though.
Have a great day. :)
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Originally posted by Watchdog
That\'s funny, because I didn\'t say it wouldn\'t sell and I wasn\'t predicting a catastrophy.
Reading comprehension is a wonderful thing.
I can\'t say you are a smart person Chrono. I can say you are very very stupid though.
Have a great day. :)
Dude listen you sound like a moron. Please get your facts straight and learn why Nintendo appeals to kids.
First of all, the older gamers like in their 20s grew up on Nintendo. The old franchise games were great and very good. The new ones are just as good. Now would you even deny that even today, the younger kids are amazing at video games and will give any "mature" gamer an asswhooping? So what makes a "kiddy" game necessarily not good, not deep, not challenging and not full of some serious gameplay?
Second of all, Nintendo is a genius company that controls kid gaming market which is most profitable. Us, grown folk spend money wisely (well most of us, at least when it comes to video games). Kids, however, rely on spoiled mommy and daddy. Here in US, kids and teeny boppers spend so much fuking money that you would be a fool not to try to get a share. Just look at the crap that Nintendo can make and SELL to kids like that retarded GCN cart.
I don\'t care how kiddy Zelda and Mario are. Mario 64 was an awesome game and so was Zelda. Zelda was easily one of the best games I ever played.
Even look at Pokemon. That is a great RPG concept with capturing monsters and developing their abilities. If it didn\'t have the kiddy appeal, Nintendo would have never got out of the N64 mess. With the kiddy appeal, Nintendo made a killing with that franchise. And people that are not closeminded, played the Gameboy games anyway. In fact, when I was selling my PS and Gameboy, the Gameboy was worth more money. This was like 2-3 years ago.
In short Watchdog, you need to stop judging a book by its cover.
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In short Liteitup, you need to learn how to read.
I never said it wouldn\'t sell. I never said kids don\'t eat it up. I never suggested the N should change it\'s business practises (although I wish they would).
I said I don\'t like it. I said it\'s not for me. You\'re new around here and you\'ve been preaching to a lot of people, but a piece of advice, STFU and learn to read because you\'re an awful waste of bandwidth as is.
I\'m sorry if I sound like a moron, but it\'s the best imitation I could do of you.
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Originally posted by Watchdog
In short Liteitup, you need to learn how to read.
I never said it wouldn\'t sell.
Yes you did. You said the blockbusters are few and far between.
The problem isn\'t with his reading comprehension, it\'s with the fact that you don\'t know what a blockbuster is. That\'s the hot, big selling (usually movie) item. Usually a blockbuster is of high quality because that tends to be what sells.
That and slick marketing.
"The big summer blockbuster" = the movie that made the money. Not the movie that had a great supporting cast...
-Eik
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I think the stat is about 10% illiteracy in the US...I think all of those people post here.
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Yes you did. You said the blockbusters are few and far between.
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You don\'t know what a blockbuster is, but I\'ll get into that later...
And is that wrong? How long did we have to wait for "blockbusters" to come out for the N64? How many were there? And how many years was the N64 around? You do the math. How many Blockbusters have we seen for the GC? In contrast, how many great games did Sega release for its Dreamcast?
And, I\'ll be an ass; the term blockbuster derives from the art community where a featured great piece of art would draw large crowds (nothing to do with money or sales). It\'s also a realestate term, I hope I don\'t have to get into the edimology of that any further.
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Usually a blockbuster is of high quality because that tends to be what sells.
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Again, you are terrible wrong. Quality has nothing to do with it, especially going from your knowledge base and definition (movies). Most Hollywood blockbusters are utter crap (last year we had Tomb Raider, Perl Harbour and Jurrassic Park 3 to name a few).
But the term blockbuster, when used correctly, actually has nothing to do with sales figures (although it probably has been appropriated into a colloquialism now--the english language is being destroyed). It has to do with ingenuity, and creativity. And N has been using all their old ideas and recycling them.
Sega does some real fine work, it goes largely unnoticed, but at least they\'ve attempted to maintain some forward thinking. N hasn\'t.
I\'ll restate: I never said N wouldn\'t make money. I never said it wouldn\'t sell. I never said kids don\'t eat it up. I never suggested the N should change it\'s business practises (although I wish they would). I said I don\'t like it. I said it\'s not for me and their blockbusters are few and far between.
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Sorry, I didn\'t realize you were comparing video games to... real estate. That makes much more sense now. :rolleyes:
But yeah, how about that Metroid Prime?
-Eik
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Sorry I didn\'t realize your vocabulary had just reached double digits. :rolleyes: Everything makes much more sense now.
But yeah, how about that Metroid Prime?