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Playstation/Gaming Discussions => Gaming Discussion => Topic started by: NPYYZ on June 02, 2002, 11:54:57 AM
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Being the owner of the Sega Dreamcast, Nintendo Game Cube, Playstation 2 , and of course the Xbox, the Xbox being my favorite. I am glad to see that game developers are beginning to realize that the Xbox is the most powerfull console of the group, and they are starting to develop for the Xbox first ,and then port to the others.
Word has it that James Bond 007 Night fire will be made for the 3 top systems but the Xbox version will be made for the Xbox and not ported from the PS2 like agent under fire was. This means a much better looking and playing game. Also Deus EX2 is being developed for the Xbox first and then ported to the other 2 consoles. Finally they are starting to see the light. I new it was just a matter of time. There is good new out there for the Xbox, it just seems no one here wants to admit it. It will only get better.
PS: I am not slamming the other consoles here, I am just posting some good news about the Xbox.
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Yeah, yeah.
Word has it that James Bond 007 Night fire will be made for the 3 top systems but the Xbox version will be made for the Xbox and not ported from the PS2 like agent under fire was.
And chances are this game will be crap!
Wow! What a deal MS has got!
Also Deus EX2 is being developed for the Xbox first and then ported to the other 2 consoles.
No.. Its being developed for PC first then ported to the other systems..
PC -> Xbox, GC, PS2
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Listen to what Fast says. ;)
Most games should be portet from PC to Xbox (or wise versa) since both us DirectX. Performance isn\'t the issue here - obviously you can\'t just take a game from PS2 and put it on Xbox with the same effort as doing the same from the PC counterpart.
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Performance isn\'t the issue here
then what happened with Morrowwind?
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But which versions of a ported game will have the added features, levels, etc.? True, it\'s nice to get a game a couple months before those who own some other console, but I wouldn\'t be very pleased to get every game first, while the others get the bonuses that make the game more worth its price.
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But which versions of a ported game will have the added features, levels, etc.? True, it\'s nice to get a game a couple months before those who own some other console, but I wouldn\'t be very pleased to get every game first, while the others get the bonuses that make the game more worth its price.
How many games on the xbox actually have extras that are worth a damn?
and its more then a couple months most of the time..
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Originally posted by Chrono
then what happened with Morrowwind?
That game couldnt even run on a 20 GHz 6000MB DDR RAM GF5 coputer ;)
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My questions were directed towards NPYYZ, Chrono. I was referring to games being ported from the Xbox, not to it.
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ahh.. ok
whatever :D
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I\'m still not convinced that the Xbox is head-and-shoulders above the GCN/PS2 in overall power.
Like its competition, it specializes in several operations.
However, developers have called the GCN more well-rounded.. leading me to believe that the small gap of overall performance between GCN and Xbox might be smaller than expected. A lot of algorithms are being put to use on GCN now that people thought only Xbox could pull.. like the grass/fur shaders in the new Star Fox.. not to mention the awesome Metroid Prime which runs at twice the framerate of Halo. (in comparatively smaller areas, though)
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And chances are this game will be crap!
Wow! What a deal MS has got!
You\'re basing this off what? The other games have at least been decent, I would say far from crap...
No.. Its being developed for PC first then ported to the other systems..
PC -> Xbox, GC, PS2
Regarding Deus Ex 2, I thought I had read that DE2 will come out for Xbox first, PC following, then the other consoles somewhere down the road...?
But which versions of a ported game will have the added features, levels, etc.? True, it\'s nice to get a game a couple months before those who own some other console, but I wouldn\'t be very pleased to get every game first, while the others get the bonuses that make the game more worth its price.
You know, whenever something came out on PS2 first, then to XBox or GC...all PS2 owners would flaunt how everyone else has to wait and they\'ll be playing something else while everyone else is catching up on yesterday\'s games...typical.
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Some of you need to stop with your mindless bashing. Especially Fastson. And IMO it doesn\'t make sense to program for XBOX first considering PS2 is the dominant system in this generation. But you will see xbox\'s power start to be tapped better.
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Originally posted by Bozco
Some of you need to stop with your mindless bashing. Especially Fastson. And IMO it doesn\'t make sense to program for XBOX first considering PS2 is the dominant system in this generation. But you will see xbox\'s power start to be tapped better.
Seeing as how Xbox is developer friendly and powerful, they can code the game for Xbox then easily port it to GC. PS2 would take the most work to port to or from...but it will eventually get there and sell...
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You\'re basing this off what? The other games have at least been decent, I would say far from crap...
I did not like AuF.. But your right. I should have added IMO..
Regarding Deus Ex 2, I thought I had read that DE2 will come out for Xbox first, PC following, then the other consoles somewhere down the road...?
Hmm. I thought it was coming to PC first.. Thats what I heard anyways.
Maybe MS got a time exclusive contract so they are making it for PC/Xbox (same code) then porting it?
Some of you need to stop with your mindless bashing. Especially Fastson.
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What did I bash now?
Just in general. Your a PS2 zealot to the extreme.
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xbox came out almost two years after the PS2, no?
:rolleyes:
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Originally posted by Bozco
Just in general. Your a PS2 zealot to the extreme.
I want some examples.. :)
Yes.. Everyone knows Im a PS2 fanboy.. Im not trying to hide it like some others in here (no names).. ;)
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Originally posted by fastson
I want some examples.. :)
Yes.. Everyone knows Im a PS2 fanboy.. Im not trying to hide it like some others in here (no names).. ;)
WOW your a $199.99 fanboy:laughing: Reminds me of pre-school:p
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Deus Ex 2 is xbox first.
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WTF, does it even matter anymore, both XB and GCN have no chance of catching up with PS2. If a developer is wants a crap load of $$$ they will put it on the system with the largest userbase... PS2.
Anyway, X-Box screwed up Morrowind, it was a waste of time, should have been PC only.
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Christ who cares anyway. If the game comes out for both PC and Xbox, whoever gets it first, is it really worth buying an Xbox at all? Hell no, unless you completely PC illiterate.
I bought PS2 for PS2 games not PC games. Im probably gonna get GC just for Zelda, Metroid and Smash Brost (and whatever top of the line first party games they may release).
That is Xbox\'s problem. You can\'t compete with PC gaming on their turf. And if you\'re gonna try to, at least do it right.
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Originally posted by "The One" Billy Gunn
Anyway, X-Box screwed up Morrowind, it was a waste of time, should have been PC only.
The developers screwed up Morrowind...not the Xbox.
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/me thinks its a combination of both
xbox = easiest console to dev for, remember?
that celeron processor staring to show its age i guess
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Originally posted by LiteItUp
Christ who cares anyway. If the game comes out for both PC and Xbox, whoever gets it first, is it really worth buying an Xbox at all? Hell no, unless you completely PC illiterate.
or you don\'t have a monster rig capable of playing the game or think playing games on PC is lame...
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Originally posted by mm
/me thinks its a combination of both
xbox = easiest console to dev for, remember?
that celeron processor staring to show its age i guess
I blame the developers, they bit off more than they could chew...not xbox\'s fault.
From what I hear the game requires a **** load of performance that consoles just don\'t have...
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ageed, no console could run morrowind very well
it was an attempt in vain
i just feel that m$ is hurting for any title and they\'ll shove anything they can onto the xbox, which in the long run can hurt them
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Originally posted by mm
i just feel that m$ is hurting for any title and they\'ll shove anything they can onto the xbox, which in the long run can hurt them
I think it\'s still to early for people to make true impressions of the console and what it will be...I think that\'s usually something you could conclude by year 2...that\'s just me though.
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Originally posted by mm
ageed, no console could run morrowind very well
it was an attempt in vain
i just feel that m$ is hurting for any title and they\'ll shove anything they can onto the xbox, which in the long run can hurt them
Everyone system has a tons of games shoved onto it. Ps2 has tons of titles that are just shoved on it. And Ms didn\'t make the game blame the dev\'s.
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Originally posted by NPYYZ
Being the owner of the Sega Dreamcast, Nintendo Game Cube, Playstation 2 , and of course the Xbox, the Xbox being my favorite. I am glad to see that game developers are beginning to realize that the Xbox is the most powerfull console of the group, and they are starting to develop for the Xbox first ,and then port to the others.
Word has it that James Bond 007 Night fire will be made for the 3 top systems but the Xbox version will be made for the Xbox and not ported from the PS2 like agent under fire was. This means a much better looking and playing game. Also Deus EX2 is being developed for the Xbox first and then ported to the other 2 consoles. Finally they are starting to see the light. I new it was just a matter of time. There is good new out there for the Xbox, it just seems no one here wants to admit it. It will only get better.
PS: I am not slamming the other consoles here, I am just posting some good news about the Xbox.
Good news about the X flops ?
/me checks to see which dimension I am in.... X box only sels 800 odd units in japan, 2 top brass jump ship, joe public won\'t touch it with a bardge poll
Ha yeah looks like i am in the right one after all
:laughing::laughing::laughing::laughing:
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Originally posted by mm
/me thinks its a combination of both
xbox = easiest console to dev for, remember?
that celeron processor staring to show its age i guess
100% agree. The first games (and good ones) have been ported directly from PC to XBOX or developed by pre-done motors of PC games. When XBOX has 2 years and companies work with other processors... bye Bill.
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Originally posted by ooseven
Good news about the X flops ?
/me checks to see which dimension I am in.... X box only sels 800 odd units in japan, 2 top brass jump ship, joe public won\'t touch it with a bardge poll
Ha yeah looks like i am in the right one after all
:laughing::laughing::laughing::laughing:
And the next week it sold nearly 8000...
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And the next week it sold nearly 8000...
Cause of the pricedrop.. then the next week it will probably sell back down to 2k
nothing new, a US equvilate price drop of $80 gave the xbox 7k more users in a week, so impressive
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Originally posted by Chrono
Cause of the pricedrop.. then the next week it will probably sell back down to 2k
nothing new, a US equvilate price drop of $80 gave the xbox 7k more users in a week, so impressive
Lets hope that\'s not going to happen. We all want good things to all consoles so gaming will get better and better.
I\'m sure everyone agrees with me. :)
Ace
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Originally posted by Chrono
Cause of the pricedrop.. then the next week it will probably sell back down to 2k
nothing new, a US equvilate price drop of $80 gave the xbox 7k more users in a week, so impressive
That could be applied to all consoles after a price drop...so what?
and being that DOA3 is the only game propelling the Xbox in Japan, I would say that\'s damn impressive.
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look at me, I\'m 18 and I can blow bubbles off my tongue, now that\'s impressive!
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yeah, its called "gleeking"
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Your "things are starting to change" is nothing big.
Its that simple.
Nothing big.
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Originally posted by mm
/me thinks its a combination of both
xbox = easiest console to dev for, remember?
that celeron processor staring to show its age i guess
You\'re dumber than I give you credit for.
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Oh dear, someone is going to have poop flung at them...
Once again, it\'s more X-Box\'s fault then Bethesda\'s. The game was intended for PC, but $$$ got the best of Bethesda, so they changed it slightly so it would port to XB.
The PC version was great, very stable, addicting(especially for RPG lovers), and beatiful. The X-Box turned it into a floppy, chugging, lower resolution game, it\'s sad, X-Box isn\'t state of the art, nor was it ever.
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Originally posted by "The One" Billy Gunn
Oh dear, someone is going to have poop flung at them...
Once again, it\'s more X-Box\'s fault then Bethesda\'s. The game was intended for PC, but $$$ got the best of Bethesda, so they changed it slightly so it would port to XB.
The PC version was great, very stable, addicting(especially for RPG lovers), and beatiful. The X-Box turned it into a floppy, chugging, lower resolution game, it\'s sad, X-Box isn\'t state of the art, nor was it ever.
I disagree like earlier...It was Bethesda\'s will to put the game on Xbox. They coded the game, they ported it, and the final result could be from lazy programming or the Xbox just couldn\'t handle it. Would you blame the PS2 for a sloppy version of Doom III (you know it wouldn\'t be the same as PC), or the developers?
And what is State of the Art, Billy?
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sigh, dbx
why do you insist on polluting my forums?
sometimes, i wonder why i dont ban you and save the members here the sight of pure ignorance
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Originally posted by Ginko
And what is State of the Art, Billy?
X-Box might ne the most powerful console of this system, but it\'s just not the powerhouse it was cracked up to be. The fact that it uses mostly computer components is the reason it\'s starting to show it\'s age.
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Originally posted by "The One" Billy Gunn
X-Box might ne the most powerful console of this system, but it\'s just not the powerhouse it was cracked up to be.
You own a PS2, correct? Was the PS2 showing its\' potential within it\'s first year on the market? I think it\'s just getting started...
I\'m giving the Xbox the same leanway...you disagree?
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again, this is a handicap and saving pennies will bite m$ in the ass later
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off topic:
Ginko... Invader Zim rocks! :D
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Yes, yes it does!!
I love Gir...
too bad about it though, nickolodeon(sp?) canceled it at one time. Petitions started up and good results followed, the show was back on, but John Vasquez was pissed. He made 27 episodes and after that there most likely won\'t be any more...
My favorite episode would have to be the one were Gir becomes the house..."I just love the little tacos, I love them goood!"