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Playstation/Gaming Discussions => Gaming Discussion => Topic started by: pstwo on June 05, 2002, 12:33:51 PM
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On July 30, MS will unlock this texture monster! I can\'t wait!! :D
http://xbox.ign.com/articles/361/361337p1.html
With heavy phrases like Counter-Strike and Team Fortress being thrown around to describe Enclave early in its speculation life cycle, we have to admit we were surprised how unique and unlike any FPS the game actually is when you have the controller in your hands. Starbreeze Studios tantalized many an Xbox owner with high resolution screenshots showing off extremely detailed textures and impressive lighting.
Not only does the real thing look as good as the screens suggest, but Enclave has its own style of play that\'s worth an objective look.
You can play the entire game from a first person perspective, but the game is balanced and tuned and works best using the third person view. You can use the first person camera when you want some help lining up a target for a ranged attack, but other than that you\'ll need to be able to see all around your main character to do battle.
You hack and slash your way out of prison in the very first level of the game finding a basic sword and crummy shield along the way. After this early introduction you\'ll get to select your character and whatever equipment you can afford before the start of subsequent missions. You have slots where you\'ll assign weapons and ammunition, but you\'ll be limited by the gear your class of character can use. The Huntress for example is proficient with ranged weapons and is extremely accurate with them. Therefore she can carry a conventional bow and a crossbow, and multiple types of each weapon will be available to her. But her melee skills are fairly weak, so you won\'t be using too much more than a dagger when you select her. You then have specific ammo slots that are unique to each weapon. You can buy flaming arrows for your bow and exploding arrows for you crossbow for example, but the two weapons can\'t share ammo.
This is as opposed to the Knight who will have a lot more melee weapons and shield types available to him (the Huntress has no shield options, but both can wear armor). When you actually take a character into a game, you will have melee and ranged attack options available but the strength of those attacks will be limited by the quality of the weapons your character has access too and the strengths and weaknesses of the class using them. The Knight can be carrying the same crossbow and arrows as the Huntress, but he\'ll be nowhere near as effective. Likewise, he can do a lot more damage with a dagger than she can.
Movement is very similar to the scheme set up in Max Payne for the Xbox. Left analog stick moves the character in every direction while the right analog stick controls the camera, which stays locked behind the character\'s head. So moving left and right on the left stick strafes while leaning left/right on the right stick turns the character and the camera. Right trigger is your attack, firing arrows and swinging weapons. The left trigger is for raising your shield to protect yourself and for interacting with the environment, aka the "use" button. The A button cycles through your weapons. If you pull out a melee weapon, you\'ll automatically pull out your shield if you have one. In some cases, you actually have more than two weapons sets like when the Huntress has her bow, crossbow and dagger.
The Y button is used to drink the potions you collect, including the all important health bottle.
Enclave looks like a typical third person action-adventure, but it does end up playing and feeling like a FPS in some respects. The control is fluid and paced in a way that aiming for crossbow shots is nice and intuitive. It\'s almost as if the third person view was emphasized to facilitate the melee combat in the game. There\'s plenty of both types of gameplay in Enclave.
There was no multiplayer component in the version of Enclave that we\'ve played, so those comparisons to Counter-Strike will have to wait. But we did get a chance to check out some of the pre-scripted events (walls exploding, bridges falling) that you can trigger in the same way you set stuff off in Halo.
Enclave is shaping up to be yet another impressive looking title on Xbox, even if it is heading in a different direction than we initially thought. With no disrespect intended to the development team or their efforts, it\'s not too far off the mark to describe Enclave as a Baldur\'s Gate: Dark Alliance with a third person Max Payne-style of camera and control. Those names seem heavy enough to us.
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what am I supposed to spunk, it dont really look all that.
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:laughing:
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The game sure looks good.
Or if I want the majority of people around here to agree with me I could say: Look how blurry it is, the texture quality is horrendous, where\'s the lighting and partical effects? Bet it runs 30 fps.
Stupid flopbox, crapbox, suxbox, ****box.
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July 30th, looks like summer won\'t be an entire wasteland for videogames afterall...
It looks really good, probably looks even better in motion. Sounds like fun too!!
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This game looks and sounds great! I can\'t wait to try it when it hits GameCube.. probably a rent\'er though.
My funds are going to be a little zapped this year..
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Originally posted by Watchdog
The game sure looks good.
Or if I want the majority of people around here to agree with me I could say: Look how blurry it is, the texture quality is horrendous, where\'s the lighting and partical effects? Bet it runs 30 fps.
Stupid flopbox, crapbox, suxbox, ****box.
The funny thing is, you don\'t realize half of what you said is true. I\'ll put it in bold so you know what part I\'m talking about.
Silly Fanboy, when will realize that the X-Box is not your almighty god.
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Originally posted by "The One" Billy Gunn
The funny thing is, you don\'t realize half of what you said is true. I\'ll put it in bold so you know what part I\'m talking about.
Silly Fanboy, when will realize that the X-Box is not your almighty god.
LOL, did you even look at the pics??? No blur, high quality textures, lighting looks amazing...
Silly Billy, when will you realize you don\'t know what you\'re talking about?
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Sweet graphics for the most part.
That lead character model in the pic with the "Gnome Engineer" enemy looks really cool.
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Looks good and sounds good. Now add multi-player and I am ready to go:D
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Originally posted by "The One" Billy Gunn
Silly Fanboy, when will realize that the X-Box is not your almighty god.
While I\'m at it...what makes him the fanboy? Why would Xbox be our almighty god? I thought I was just playing games...
scared of Xbox now
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Ginko, I just got word from a executive producer Dan Jevons at Conspiracy Entertainment and he said the Enclave is done and runs at consistent 30 frames per sec. and the game hasn\'t been submitted to MS QA in the US yet. They better do it fast!! :D
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Originally posted by pstwo
Ginko, I just got word from a executive producer Dan Jevons at Conspiracy Entertainment and he said the Enclave is done and runs at consistent 30 frames per sec. and the game hasn\'t been submitted to MS QA in the US yet. They better do it fast!! :D
Looks like mm has something new to talk about...
What is MS QA?
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Well mm said that only driving games and FPS require 60 fps, so I guess we\'ll see.
Billy, you are truly a piece of work. Go hug your PS2 and watch wrestling.
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What is MS QA?
You know this puzzle me too but from what I\'ve read this is MS testing stage where the quality control is done like Morrowind was going through. I think now Morrowind is amost bug free.
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Originally posted by pstwo
You know this puzzle me too but from what I\'ve read this is MS testing stage where the quality control is done like Morrowind was going through. I think now Morrowind is amost bug free.
That\'s cool...don\'t they (developers) do most of that themselves though?
wonders when billy\'s gonna get here, I\'m so anxious to see his replies
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That is one cool shot. My favorite out of all of them. I think the rest of them look too similar. Hopefully this game won\'t turn out to be just another hack and slash game, but I have my doubts... it looks to be one. :(
Off topic, but I thought this game was also coming to PS2. I thought I remember seeing some PS2 shots awhile back.
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Looks looking awesome and from the sounds of it. Its sounds like it plays awesome as well. :thepimp:
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Off topic, but I thought this game was also coming to PS2. I thought I remember seeing some PS2 shots awhile back.
yes it is
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enclave better be more fun than the snore-fest that is hunter: the reckoning
i\'ve waited too damn long for some A+ xbox games
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Hunter is fun, I don\'t know what you are smoking.
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i guess its just me (and Billy B1tch-Cakes) but those shots really arent that good. Especially taken into account that it runs at 30fps. XBox has done way better.
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watch, if they made a game for xbox that all you would do is run around and smear poop on the walls, as long as it ran at 60 FPS and possessed bump mapping, you would praise it
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Look at my history, I\'ve said more negative things about xbox games than I have PS2. You have never say anything positive about any xbox game. Ever.
I say Halo is great.
You say it runs at 30 fps and makes you go blind.
I say RC is a beautiful and fun game.
You say it\'s blurry as hell.
I could go on.
I say I dislike GUNVALKYRIE, MotoGp, Silent Hill, Blood Wake, I could go on and on.
I say I dislike GT, FF, GTA3--that\'s pretty much it. I say I love Baulder\'s, Maximo, MGS, J&D, VF4, Burnout.
I don\'t need to trash PS2, you don\'t either. I don\'t need to trash xbox, you ALWAYS do, in every other thread; you and 00seven seem like some sort of immature team.
Hunter, BTW, got 8.7 from IGN and 8.0 from Gamespot--both great scores. My opinion isn\'t in the minority here.
I\'ve got a history to back me up. Just recently I said Ninja Gaiden doesn\'t impress me, Crazy Taxi (a series I love) looks like crap, and Blinx is a gimmick.
The only time I go on about an xbox game (besdies Halo) is when it is getting trashed unfairly by the goonsquad around here. I never just stick in a comment in an otherwise happy thread to incite PS2 lovers. All I ever say is if you trash the xbox, you must use the same criteria for PS2 and GC. So long as you\'re consistent I don\'t say a word, that\'s not the case, so I speak out.
Your last comment is baseless, people around here that have paid attention know that.
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Originally posted by mm
watch, if they made a game for xbox that all you would do is run around and smear poop on the walls, as long as it ran at 60 FPS and possessed bump mapping, you would praise it
If it had good gameplay and was fun(you know it would be), I would praise it too!!
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munch\'s oddysee
now there\'s an A+ xbox game
i post my gripes about xbox games, watch
what should i do, sacrifice my standards?
history to back you up?
we are posting our OPINIONS here
yers stinks just like mine do
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Well everyone is not going to like the same type of games. MM dislikes Hunter for his own personnal reasons. Just like you dislike GT. Only things is Gt is a triple A game hunter is not.
Now Munch I see no point in that game it was just real boring and not fun too me.
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which is exactly how i feel about hunter
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I have no probem with that. I\'ve said that GT is a great game in these forums, but I don\'t like it. I can see how people like that game. But when every game is crap if it\'s on xbox how can we take your comments seriously? If you stated every PS2 game that comes out was crap, we wouldn\'t be having this conversation. But you don\'t. I can see why people wouldn\'t like Hunter, but we weren\'t talking about Hunter, never have, and probably never would have.
But you brought it up, out of context, and for what? I don\'t know. All I\'m saying is that you never bring up a PS2 game out of the blue and tell everyone how much you dislike it. Nor do you bring up an xbox game out of context and profess your love for it.
That\'s a double standard and that\'s why I\'m calling you on it.
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then yer wrong
i never said every xbox game is crap
i loved oddworld, i bought my xbox for that game
hunter is an xbox game so i WILL COMPARE IT TO FRICKIN XBOX GAMES! whats so hard to grasp here?
again, hunter was supposed to be this great xbox exclusive, but in the end, its another Gunvalkrye
it wouldnt be fair for me to compare it to PS2 or GC games, right?
thats why i dont do it
PS2 games follow a different format
i didnt compare DC titles to PS2 titles 6 months after PS2 launched did i? oh, you wouldnt know. god forbid you were around for my anti-nintendo days. ask Eik about that.
you sense the pattern yet, watch?
:p
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Originally posted by mm
then yer wrong
i never said every xbox game is crap
i loved oddworld, i bought my xbox for that game
hunter is an xbox game so i WILL COMPARE IT TO FRICKIN XBOX GAMES! whats so hard to grasp here?
again, hunter was supposed to be this great xbox exclusive, but in the end, its another Gunvalkrye
it wouldnt be fair for me to compare it to PS2 or GC games, right?
thats why i dont do it
PS2 games follow a different format
i didnt compare DC titles to PS2 titles 6 months after PS2 launched did i? oh, you wouldnt know. god forbid you were around for my anti-nintendo days. ask Eik about that.
you sense the pattern yet, watch?
:p
Yeah MM comes and goes. He changes systems like the wheather seasons. I thought he would never get off Nintendo:D I guarantee they will be back in dog house again.
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Why wouldn\'t it be fair? A game is a game. You are paying the same price for them. Sony has no trouble denying that they are in a war with the xbox, neither does MS with the PS2.
But even looking at your logic, there are hundreds of PS2 games that look like crap, play like crap and are complete crap when comapred to other PS2 games, yet they don\'t see mention on these forums. Why is that? Why do "bad" PS2 games excape your scrutiny? Why don\'t you announce your loathing of bad PS2 exclusives?
So, considering the above, yes I do see a pattern.
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MM: Wait a second.. your anti-Nintendo days are over? I didn\'t notice.. ;)
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watch, yer not making sense to me
why shouls i bring up bad PS2 games? let alone ANY PS2 games.
do i have to draw you a picture so youll understand?
i dont compare xbox games to PS2 games.
I EXPECT MORE FROM XBOX GAMES
and so should you
yes blade, i\'ve decided to not harp on nintendo for a bit
i\'ll wait till after celda and mario shortcake come out this xmas, and resume
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You should bring up bad PS2 games for the same reason you bring up bad xbox games. I dont\' know why you do it either, but you do, all the time.
You say you don\'t compare PS2 games to xbox ones. Okay, I\'ll buy that. But within PS2 games, there are terrible titles, but those don\'t get mention from you.
There is a graphical bottom line for xbox games for you. I presume there is a graphical bottom line for PS2 games as well.
When an xbox games falls below that line you let everyone here know about it.
However, when a PS2 game falls below that graphical bottom line, you don\'t mention it.
I wonder why.
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sigh watchdog
the real shame of this entire situation is that you dont even realize im on yer side
i dont know whether to laugh or feel pity