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Playstation/Gaming Discussions => Gaming Discussion => Topic started by: mm on June 06, 2002, 09:44:58 AM
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ok, i\'ll set aside my kommunist ways for this thread and let popular belief rule
we all agree this part of the forum needs a change
should we just change the name to "console discussion" and tighten the reigns af whats tolerated?
OR
should we split the current forum into "console discussion" and "console debating"
console discussion - more rational
console debate - more violent
granted it will be more work on the mods moving posts from discussion to debate when people get worked up, but thats fine
doesnt matter to me either way, the choice is yers
oh, and this is all Ryu\'s idea
:P
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Indeed it is my suggestion, but it\'s a request that has been put forth for awhile. People need space without ridicule to discuss other consoles. I\'m sick and tired of threads turning into XBox roast fests all because it\'s based on an XBox game. It\'s time we changed all that. :)
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damnit, who voted for choice #1 ?!?!?!
i swear i\'ll send clyde after j00!
no, im kidding :)
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It wasnt me!
Although I\'m not here to often, I think splitting the forum is the way to go
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Just crack down on offenders. Come on, whats changing the name gonna do? Start handing out temporary bans. Debating isint bad, infact i think its healthy. But "STFU my console kicks your mother ****ing console\'s ass" Is not debating, thats where you ban someone.
As for the split, disscusion and debating...hmmmm eventually discussion will turn into debate and then you will have yourself two "IGN quality" forums.
Leave forums as they are. INFORCE RULES.
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Why don\'t we just call it the war room?
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I\'ve long rallied for a split, and I hope it comes to pass. I hope never to see another sales report, screenshot comparison or "flopbox suxors" thread again.
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nor do I have to look at misleading thread titles like "mind-blowing (x-box title here) screen shots" along those lines. It\'s win-win.
I just hope this doesn\'t turn into civil war.
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I hope never to see another sales report
nor do I have to look at misleading thread titles like "mind-blowing (x-box title here) screen shots" along those lines
both of those could be considered in discussions or debate...it depends how you approach it.
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I think the split is the best option. If you just change the name, I doubt much will change. Just make two forums, and enforce the rules very tightly in the discussion forum. You have to leave a debating forum though. People enjoy doing their share of bashing at times, and if there\'s no other place to do it, it will just appear in the discussion forum.
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I think they both suck, and things are fine the way they are, regardless what you call it there will be flaming.
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Originally posted by \\/apor Snake
I think they both suck, and things are fine the way they are, regardless what you call it there will be flaming.
The flaming will be left for debating, hopefully to a lesser extent though.
As long as the mods take it seriously, I don\'t see why it wouldn\'t work.
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Regardless, when you have people talking about "consoles" in general, your gonna get discussions which turn into arguments which eventually turn into flaming. Constant as the Northern Star. ;)
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Originally posted by \\/apor Snake
Regardless, when you have people talking about "consoles" in general, your gonna get discussions which turn into arguments which eventually turn into flaming. Constant as the Northern Star. ;)
they\'re not going to be talking about Xbox vs. PS2 for example. I believe discussion would be for things like "Look at these Starfox pics". PS2 or XBox wouldn\'t/shouldn\'t be brought into the discussion...
Now if you would like to discuss consoles, go into debating...
If I\'m thinking wrong, Ryu or Bob, help me out...
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Originally posted by Ginko
"Look at these Starfox pics"
"Those pics aren\'t that great, have you seen The Getaways pics?"
The thread can easily slide in one direction. Even a subject as simple as that can be percieved as Gamecube boosting, which alot of PS2/X-box fanboys will be defended by.
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Originally posted by \\/apor Snake
"Those pics aren\'t that great, have you seen The Getaways pics?"
The thread can easily slide in one direction. Even a subject as simple as that can be percieved as Gamecube boosting, which alot of PS2/X-box fanboys will be defended by.
That quote there sounds like a debate, not a discussion.
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Ginko is absolutely correct about everything. There will be a forum for a discussion, and a forum for trash. The trash will obviously be popular, but I\'m guessing the more intelligent posters will know how to handle themselves in each board.
Yes Vapor, you can turn every thread in this whole goddamn message board into to some sniveling whining debate as you have shown us here, but that doesn\'t mean that these boards will not be cleaned and enforced as necessary. When sh*t hits the fan in this board, there\'s nothing to do with it except close it. Now, we can move it to the part of the board where that crap is totaly accepted and is classified as "the norm."
If you want intelligent discussion about multiple consoles, you\'ll stay in console discussion.
If you want trash talking moronic behavior, visit the console war room or some crap like that.
I don\'t see what\'s so hard about this.
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Originally posted by Ryu
Ginko is absolutely correct about everything.
Read sig:nerd:
visit the console war room or some crap like that.
I so hope it\'s called that...DOOM for everybody!!
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You\'re amazing only because you like Gir. :)
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Originally posted by Ryu
You\'re amazing only because you like Gir. :)
I am Gir...Tacos, tacos, tacos
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So we\'ve just lost all hope in the CD forums?
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Originally posted by Ginko
As long as the mods take it seriously, I don\'t see why it wouldn\'t work.
I\'m about ready to just start erasing threads and posts... closing things leaves it there which is ugly. We\'ll see how it goes, I\'d hate to have to do that, though...
-Eik
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Eh... go for the split thing.
It\'s not really going to help cure anything around here in regards to fanboyism and flaming. It\'ll simply give the mods and admins a more justified reason to edit posts and deal with certain blind, stubborn members. But dividing the multi-console portion of the forum will be like a breath of fresh air to those who don\'t want to put up with such things, so I\'m all for it.
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I think we should make a new forum called "DA" where we send all the dumbasses. And make me the moderator so I can stir them up to fight for my amusement.
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I voted #1 because I think you should just enforce all the rules, in all the forums. There\'s no point in making exceptions for people/forums, because people are just going to keep pushing the bounds of acceptabliity.
Personally, I\'ve seen with great success, forums labeled the SPAM/FLAME forum, where posts don\'t count. It sickens me to see two or three people flame each other 5-6 times in thread after thread, and have that contributing to their post count, which makes an initial impression of someones value and dedication to the board.
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I voted for splitting the forums. I\'ve seen the Mod\'s try to "tighten" the rules before, and it never worked. People still got away with flamming, swearing, etc.
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Originally posted by Tom G
I voted for splitting the forums. I\'ve seen the Mod\'s try to "tighten" the rules before, and it never worked. People still got away with flamming, swearing, etc.
That\'s it. You\'re banned.
j/k
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Hey Ginko.. i think this should be your new signature
Originally posted by Ryu
Ginko is absolutely correct about everything
buh.. even if you donyt use it as your sig, i can see that quote coming back to bite everyone on the ass ;)
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Originally posted by Bobs_Hardware
Hey Ginko.. i think this should be your new signature
buh.. even if you donyt use it as your sig, i can see that quote coming back to bite everyone on the ass ;)
What would these forums be without a little drama...besides, I\'m still trying to figure out why I\'m so amazing?!:bounce:
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A split seems the way to go. I propose we call one "Mister Rogers multi-console neighborhood" and the other "Console Smack Down!" or something along those lines. We could even continue calling it Console Debating seeing as how not much will change unless guidelines already in place are enforced.
It would be better though if a certain pompous hypocritical moderator had no say in what goes on in the CD forum. I won\'t name any names but his initials are RYU. I mean seriously, which one should be less tolerated, bashing consoles or bashing people?
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Oh yes, boo hoo Heretic, boo hoo. After a mere 300 posts since you registered, your opinion is valued above all others. For someone who visits so casually, what do you care what we do to the forums anyways? Oh well, you stick around, we must be doing SOMETHING right. Ya know, it\'s amazing how you can have any opinion at all especially since it was based on a thread that has since been CLOSED long ago. You wren\'t even here for the week that it was open though. Your opinion is just that, but don\'t think that I won\'t give my opinion accordingly just the same. You think me being a mod means I should post at some god like standard? I was a member first and I posted the same way then and I will continue to do so in that way now. Being a mod comes second unless it\'s porn, gratuitous spam, or complete vulgarity in the worst sense.
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Originally posted by Samwise
That\'s it. You\'re banned.
j/k
Ahhh! :)
Just saying, is all. I know it\'s a hard job, and you all are doing a great job. It\'s just that there are some bozo\'s that don\'t seem to wanna follow the rules. With seperate forums, perhaps they\'ll bother the more mature people a lot less.
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Ryu, in one post you\'ve managed to present several false assumptions. One glaring example is your behavior towards Vapor Snake in this thread alone was reason enough for me to react here and label you as pompous. I won\'t bother explaining how far off you are elsewhere because frankly it would take too many words and I don\'t see where it\'d be of any real value to you or any possible onlookers.
I will say though one of the major gulfs between us is this; you think the problem with this forum is members freely bash consoles and games due to bias/whatever, while I see the basic problem with this forum, and the human condition in general, is that we (and I have to include me) too often feel free to bash each other as long as we feel secure in the knowledge we are better, for whatever reason, than those we bash.
Originally posted by Ryu
You think me being a mod means I should post at some god like standard?
No, human like. As in one decent human being to another, whether you consider them one or not
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Ask \\/apor if he minded before you bash someone in his defense. I don\'t see how you can possibly reason from what you have posted in this thread that you are in any way better for this discussion, or this forum for that matter, than Ryu is. Notice how no one else has jumped out to join you in your position here. Think that might say something?
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Originally posted by shockwaves
Ask \\/apor if he minded before you bash someone in his defense.
Mind, I do not.
(Gives Heretic a cookie)
(Gives shockwaves a cookie)
(Flies away on a broom)
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Vapor, thanks for the cookie
How a particular individual feels about being insulted or whether they even felt insulted, in this thread as well as other much worse examples, has no bearing on my reply.
shockwaves, you don\'t see how I can reason my being better for this discussion/forum simply because that was in no way what I was trying to say. I\'d rather not see someone in charge of enforcing rules who doesn\'t feel compelled to abide by them, especially on a forum created for those who want to argue. I would rather see us all treat each other with more respect. Everybody, everywhere. Am I always good at it? No
A cunning madman finds plenty of backing at the institute. So, might makes right?
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There needs to be a split. People dont like hearing the truth about their favorite consoles here, example: GC is targeted to 7-14
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Haha, yea we need to split so Clowd can leave comments like that in the Console Flaming board and us informed people can talk somewhere else.
:D
-Eik
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Originally posted by Eiksirf
Haha, yea we need to split so Clowd can leave comments like that in the Console Flaming board and us informed people can talk somewhere else.
:D
-Eik
Are you denying what I said?
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Yeah, Eternal Darkness and RE is for those damn seven year olds......:rolleyes:
I vote for the split, only if it is enforced. What I mean is, if the moronic behavior spills over there should be consequences, not just the thread being moved. The "console discussion" forum should be a sacred place for people who own multi-consoles and enjoy them. The "war room" should be for mindless bashing such as "xbox flops", "GC is k1dd1e" and "PS2 Jaggie-machine". The problem with spliting the forums is it is going to require more work for the mods, which will probably mean more mods will be needed for those two areas.
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Originally posted by Clowd
There needs to be a split. People dont like hearing the truth about their favorite consoles here, example: GC is targeted to 7-14
That\'s why we need a debate board and a discussion board. He could only say things like that on the debate board, and on the debate board, I could reply "and yet, it\'s still far and away the best console :p"
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Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
I vote for the split, only if it is enforced.
Don\'t worry man, I know guys like Ryu are going to be all over it, but I\'m going to edit the piss out of anything thats immature. Who needs a close option when there\'s a delete one right next to it, ya know what I mean?
That forum will be kept clean.
It\'s my opinion that "clean" forums are much better, and that\'s what this one was when I signed up.
-Eik
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I make a prediction that Clowd is going to be the first person excluded from the forums due to comments in the Discussion area.
We all realised what you meant by
People dont like hearing the truth about their favorite consoles here
saying..
example: GC is targeted to 7-14
was just you being a complete ass who cant keep his opinion to himself. That is NOT the sort of talk we want in the new board and it will not be tolerated.
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Good, Eik.
I think this new "discussion" board should also allow people to ask what games are better for each system, or post reviews of games from other systems. I\'m sure you all have already covered this, but I didn\'t have time to read through two pages . ;)
Oh and Agree\'d Bob. I can see certain members being booted from that forum, though I don\'t think that would be a bad thing. Quality over quanity.
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That is why there is two debate boards, for my kind and the \'informed\' kind
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Did he just admit he wasn\'t informed?
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Stop replying to threads as if you were in a chat room. -Ryu
Aye. -Clowd