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Playstation/Gaming Discussions => Gaming Discussion => Topic started by: Chrono on June 11, 2002, 10:30:44 PM
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Here is a list (from IGN) of games sega is making for each console excluding sports games:
GameCube
Beach Spikers
Derby Owners Club
Home Run King
Phantasy Star Online Episode 1 & 2
Sega Soccer Slam
Skies of Arcadia
Sonic Adventure 2: Battle
Super Monkey Ball
Super Monkey Ball 2
Virtua Fighter Quest
Virtua Striker 2002
World Series Baseball 2K3
Playstation2
Aero Dancing 4
Culdcept Second
Ferrari F355 Challenge
Gungrave
Hundred Swords
Rez
Sega Bass Fishing Duel
Sega Soccer Slam
Sega Sports Tennis
Shin Roommania
Shinobi
Space Channel 5, Part 2
Virtua Fighter 4
Xbox
Crazy Taxi 3: High Roller
GUNVALKYRIE
House of the Dead 3
Jet Set Radio Future
Outrun 2
Panzer Dragoon Orta
Phantasy Star Online Episode 1 & 2
Sega GT 2002
Sega Soccer Slam
ToeJam & Earl III: All Funked Up
World Series Baseball
Spike Out X-treme
Now lets remove multiplatform games, sports have already been removed
GameCube
Beach Spikers
Derby Owners Club
Home Run King
Phantasy Star Online Episode 1 & 2
Skies of Arcadia
Sonic Adventure 2: Battle
Super Monkey Ball
Super Monkey Ball 2
Virtua Fighter Quest
Virtua Striker 2002
Playstation2
Aero Dancing 4
Culdcept Second
Ferrari F355 Challenge
Gungrave
Hundred Swords
Rez
Sega Bass Fishing Duel
Shin Roommania
Shinobi
Space Channel 5, Part 2
Virtua Fighter 4
Xbox
Crazy Taxi 3: High Roller
GUNVALKYRIE
House of the Dead 3
Jet Set Radio Future
Outrun 2
Panzer Dragoon Orta
Phantasy Star Online Episode 1 & 2
Sega GT 2002
ToeJam & Earl III: All Funked Up
World Series Baseball
Spike Out X-treme
Shenmue 2x
Thought it was bad for the ps2,
Lets add this to the xbox
“Sega and Cool Net Entertainment will be converting an as-yet unspecified range of older games to Xbox, with the first titles set to be released in Japan this summer. The games, of varying vintage, will include Mega Drive and Saturn hits, as well as the more obvious Dreamcast ports.”
I’m.... not done yet.
"Sega displayed a graphic highlighting the four architectures that it will be supporting. Included in the list were the Dreamcast-based Naomi family (this includes Naomi 2), the GameCube based Triforce hardware, the Xbox-based, tentatively titled Chiriro hardware, and the so-called System X. This latter hardware was announced a couple of weeks back as being developed in cooperation with Sammy, publisher of the Guilty Gear series.
One area that surprises us is the lack of support for the PS2-friendly System 246 hardware. Sega, Namco and Sony Computer Entertainment announced long ago that they were working on something along that lines, again as part of Sega\'s arcade networking plans. They companies even showed what looked like prototype hardware. We haven\'t a clue what became of that."
So, lots of arcade games the ps2 won’t see..
Can it be any worse? Yes it can
While sega plans to support the ps2 online with its sports titles, other then that the ps2 has no other only sega games, while even the GCN has at least one other non sports title.
Certainly looks like the ps2 is their primary platform… :rolleyes:
Why does Sega ignore the ps2?
I guess ps2 owners only have Shinobi to look forward too.. there is nothing else. VF4 is already out, and expected to be released on the xbox soon anyway..
Good thing every other company is doing the opposite... (edit: oops, except tecmo)
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SEGA=Overrated.. ---> IMO
I own... uh? what’s that? ZERO SEGA titles.. :eek:
The only SEGA game Im interested in is Sega Rally 3.
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Atleast the PS2 got Rez. Very addictive game.
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yet another bad business decision for sega
i swear to try to limit thier sales potential with everything they do
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I bet Sega got a boatload of cash from MS. I\'m pretty sure it was a good decision.
Sega is not overrated.
Buy an xbox and quit whining.
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Originally posted by Watchdog
Buy an xbox and quit whining.
You mean....buy and Xbox and start whining. :p
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lol, nice comeback
gmanjoe - 1
watchdog - 0
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why does sega ignore ps2? ms and sega are in it to win, pizza place spin it, yeah
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SEGA=Overrated.. ---> IMO
Yeah, I know it. Rez sucked, so did Super Monkey Ball, VF4 and that damn Gun Valkirye...
:rolleyes:
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I never noticed how most of Sega\'s top quality titles are going to Xbox only/first. I like this move considering that they\'ll probably be in their top form...
and the System 246 is PS2 friendly...but that\'s it. It would take more effort to put it on the other two consoles. I know PS2 outsells Xbox and GC combined but remember that software sells systems...
Does anyone know if Sega was satisfied with thier VF4 port to PS2? I remember way back when they were saying it will be arcade perfect and such...obviously it did not. This was also from AM2, one of the more talented and highly skilled developers from Sega.
why does sega ignore ps2?
Could it be because of capabilities, or lack thereof?
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I\'ll have all three consoles this generation, so I\'m not really concerned about all this. If you want a Sega fix tho, go buy a frickin Dreamcast. Christ, they cost about as much as a PS2 game and the games themselves are dirt cheap, most of the time costing about as much as a supervalue meal at McDonalds.
Sides, don\'t bytch. It\'s not like many of you were too interested in Sega before the switch to 3rd party.. why are you complaining now??
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As long as the new Shinobi isnt a disgrace.. all is well with me and Sega :)
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Err, the PS2\'s lineup from Sega doesn\'t look half-bad to me. As good as the GCN one, at least!
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Originally posted by Ginko
Could it be because of capabilities, or lack thereof?
no no no no no no sega and ms are together, ms funded dc, now ms is up against ps2, so ms encourages dc to not help ps2 more then them
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true
/me looks over at DC and sees windows logo on it *shudder*
that same logo caused the most widespread pirating of any console to date
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Originally posted by Watchdog
Buy an xbox and quit whining.
I dont want one :)
Could it be because of capabilities, or lack thereof?
:laughing:
Ill give ya a hint..
(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.passport.und.edu%2Fmoneybag.jpg&hash=320fa4e97a8eb0a7d52206f12b7938e111dddedd)
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As they say, money talks and bull**** walks. Well I think that\'s what they say.
Ace
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Originally posted by Clowd
no no no no no no sega and ms are together, ms funded dc, now ms is up against ps2, so ms encourages dc to not help ps2 more then them
CSK funded Sega for the Dreamcast...
so ms encourages dc to not help ps2 more then them
Unless it\'s just boatloads of money, I really don\'t see why Sega would agree to this.
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Originally posted by SonyFan
I\'ll have all three consoles this generation, so I\'m not really concerned about all this. If you want a Sega fix tho, go buy a frickin Dreamcast. Christ, they cost about as much as a PS2 game and the games themselves are dirt cheap, most of the time costing about as much as a supervalue meal at McDonalds.
Sides, don\'t bytch. It\'s not like many of you were too interested in Sega before the switch to 3rd party.. why are you complaining now??
You tell them, SF.
"Waaaaa, Sega isn\'t supporting MY console so I think they suck!!!"
Shut up and buy the other consoles.
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Shut up and buy the other consoles.
I don\'t think I was whining in my post, I was just pointing something out. There is more then enough gaming on the ps2 and GCN for me, and frankly, anyone else in the universe. If you need more games you need a life and a job. I\'ve always said sega makes bad descisions, this just prooves my point.
The xbox is still pretty useless, If I bought one all it would do is collect dust.. why do I need to buy one?
If it goes the way of every other american console, it won\'t be around much past 2003.. this season is crucial, and most of the big name titles don\'t come out till 2003..
With the exception of Tecmo and Sega, every other japaneese developer has virtually ignored the xbox, that must tell you something..
Hey, btw, where are all the RPGs?
OHH! thats right.. on the PS2!
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i dont think anyone is saying sega sucks to that extent
they are remarkable in thier bad business decisions of time thats all
and chrono\'s right, RPG\'s run the show
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If Sega is supporting the XBox so well...
And you started this whole thread just to inform us all...
You must really want those Sega games...
So why would buying an Xbox be for collecting dust?
And you say you\'re not whining?
How many times have you moaned and groaned about how Sega is "ignoring" the PS2?
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You must really want those Sega games...
First of all, I played most of them on my Dreamcast
Second, with the exception of Sonic and Phantasy Star (not the online crap) i\'ve never really loved sega games..
Thus far only VF4 has been a AAA game (using the average 90% of better ranking), and I don\'t really care for fighting games.
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Originally posted by Chrono
There is more then enough gaming on the ps2 and GCN for me, and frankly, anyone else in the universe.
I have yet to get a GC and I only have 3 games on PS2...I have 9 on Xbox...there goes that comment.
If you need more games you need a life and a job.
Yes, I need more than 3 games...
If it goes the way of every other american console, it won\'t be around much past 2003.. this season is crucial, and most of the big name titles don\'t come out till 2003..
I thought most of them were coming out this fall?
With the exception of Tecmo and Sega, every other japaneese developer has virtually ignored the xbox, that must tell you something..
I\'m assuming you mean with games already on the market...because there are quite a few games in developement as we type:nerd:
Hey, btw, where are all the RPGs?
OHH! thats right.. on the PS2!
Yes, if you settle for sub-par quality in story telling, graphics, and overall execution...yes they are on PS2.
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Then what do you care if Sega supports PS2 or not?
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Then what do you care if Sega supports PS2 or not?
The same reason why I bother to post here, cause I can
Additionaly, cause I invest in gaming companies, so obviously its a good idea for me to care.
Perhaps someone other then you also cares.
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I\'ll ignore the rest of your moronic post and focus on one part
Yes, if you settle for sub-par quality in story telling, graphics, and overall execution...yes they are on PS2.
So, let me get this straight,
Your calling litterly millions of people stupid?
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Originally posted by Chrono
I\'ll ignore the rest of your moronic post and focus on one part
Because you can\'t argue it...
So, let me get this straight,
Your calling litterly millions of people stupid?
No silly, I didn\'t mention stupid in my posts. Just that they have to settle for what\'s available...
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For some reason I decided to reply to the rest. *slaps self on face*
I have yet to get a GC and I only have 3 games on PS2...I have 9 on Xbox...there goes that comment.
Thats your problem that you can\'t find a game you like on the ps2.. or rather choose not to, or in reality, don\'t actually own a ps2.
Millions upon millions of others can, thats 100% your fault.
I thought most of them were coming out this fall?
If your thinking Panzer Dragoon will do much, your kidding yourself.
Ninja Gaiden may.. but its a 2003 title, Project Ego probably won\'t even make this year either..
What other big name titles are coming out this year?
I\'m assuming you mean with games already on the market...because there are quite a few games in developement as we type
Like what, every other company has 2 to 3 times more ps2 games in developent. Those numbers don\'t lie.
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No silly, I didn\'t mention stupid in my posts. Just that they have to settle for what\'s available...
Settle for whats avaible?
There are MANY titles to choose from
Star Ocean,Breath of Fire, Sukioden and the very famous Final Fantasy, including the super popular in japan Dragon Quest..
Settle for what\'s avaible, full your head from a certain area please and wake up.
Just cause the xbox has none of these, does not mean you discredit them like you obviously have
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Thats your problem that you can\'t find a game you like on the ps2.. or rather choose not to, or in reality, don\'t actually own a ps2.
Millions upon millions of others can, thats 100% your fault.
LOL, I bought a PS2 a little after FFX came out...regretfully. Fortunatley Jak & Daxter and FFIX were available otherwise I would have returned it. I\'ve tried all the "big" titles, nothing more than rentals, IMO.
Liking a certain game comes down to opinion which you\'re not going to be able to argue...I like my Xbox more than my PS2, what\'s it to you?
If your thinking Panzer Dragoon will do much, your kidding yourself.
I don\'t know what you mean here. Are you talking in sales? Why would I care how much it sells? I just wanna play it...
Ninja Gaiden may.. but its a 2003 title, Project Ego probably won\'t even make this year either..
What other big name titles are coming out this year?
I, myself am looking forward to Brute Force, Totaled, Chase, Sega GT, Unreal, Toejam and Earl among some others...
Like what, every other company has 2 to 3 times more ps2 games in developent. Those numbers don\'t lie.
Konami, Namco, Sega, Capcom, etc. all have titles in devleopment...what\'s the point in bringing up quantity?
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Originally posted by Chrono
Settle for whats avaible?
There are MANY titles to choose from
Star Ocean,Breath of Fire, Sukioden and the very famous Final Fantasy, including the super popular in japan Dragon Quest..
Settle for what\'s avaible, full your head from a certain area please and wake up.
Just cause the xbox has none of these, does not mean you discredit them like you obviously have
Yes, only one of those titles are available at the moment...if those had all been out, FFX probably would have been met with much more criticism...assuming any of the above turn out to be as good.
I have played just about every RPG available for PS2, they are all crap IMO. I had to settle for FFX being that there is nothing else worth playing at this time...EDIT:IMO
smiles @ mm:)
bets Chrono has a fit and puts me back on his Ignore list
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IMO would be the key phrase of that last sentence, my friend
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Same can be said about Xbox.. ;)
I had to settle for Halo being that there is nothing else worth playing at this time...EDIT:IMO
:)
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Originally posted by Ginko
I have yet to get a GC and I only have 3 games on PS2...I have 9 on Xbox...there goes that comment.
I would just like to tell you that you are in an extreme minority, if you want to talk numbers we\'re talking 1%
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Ginko
so you have 1 good xbox game, 7 mediochre ones, and one terrible one?
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This is a pointless debate--even for me, but I found this quite funny:
Chrono:
"Just cause the xbox has none of these, does not mean you discredit them like you obviously have"
A smart ass would reply to Chrono with:
"Just cause the PS2 has none of these, does not mean you discredit them like you obviously have [refering to xbox]"
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This is a pointless debate, one that chrono thinks of quite often, who cares if sega makes 4 less games for the ps2
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OMG, all of you missed the point...well, fastson and Clowd did. Not suprising...
There is more then enough gaming on the ps2 and GCN for me, and frankly, anyone else in the universe.
The xbox is still pretty useless,
I was just putting Chrono in his place, letting him know he\'s not speaking for everybody...
Ginko
so you have 1 good xbox game, 7 mediochre ones, and one terrible one?
???
I would just like to tell you that you are in an extreme minority, if you want to talk numbers we\'re talking 1%
How\'d you come up with that?
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Originally posted by Clowd
This is a pointless debate, one that chrono thinks of quite often, who cares if sega makes 4 less games for the ps2
At least Chrono puts up a fight...you have no room to talk down on anyone here.
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Originally posted by Ginko
How\'d you come up with that?
x box accounts for 1% of software sales
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Originally posted by Clowd
x box accounts for 1% of software sales
In which territory? In Japan...I would believe it.
Where are you pulling the numbers from?
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Originally posted by Ginko
At least Chrono puts up a fight...you have no room to talk down on anyone here.
C\'Mon the guy posts what a retired nintendo employee thinks about the sales of ffx1
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Originally posted by Ginko
In which territory? In Japan...I would believe it.
Where are you pulling the numbers from?
I would go find the link but your not worth it
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C\'Mon the guy posts what a retired nintendo employee thinks about the sales of ffx1
While true, that\'s not my point...you don\'t back up anything you say, if someone questions your statements, you run and hide.
I would go find the link but your not worth it
You don\'t have to find a link, I just asked where you got them from...
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Originally posted by Ginko
While true, that\'s not my point...you don\'t back up anything you say, if someone questions your statements, you run and hide.
You don\'t have to find a link, I just asked where you got them from...
When did I run from someone questioning my statement?
I got the 1% number from a sales chart at this very forum
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Try the entire "Square comments on comments made by Nintendo" thread...it took forever to finally get something out of you. You dodge questions which leads me to believe you are making false statements...much like just now.
And those charts are from Japan...
It might do you some good to think before you post from now on...maybe you can pull your respectability out of the gutter.
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that post in square comments on comments made by nintendo that i made was a theory, that is why i said \'it looks like\' which means theory
My respectability may not be high with you, but it is with most of the other members of this forum
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Originally posted by Clowd
that post in square comments on comments made by nintendo that i made was a theory, that is why i said \'it looks like\' which means theory
Which you backed up with babble...
My respectability may not be high with you, but it is with most of the other members of this forum
Is denial fun?
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Originally posted by Ginko
Which you backed up with babble...
I\'m having a hard time seeing what you consider \'babble\'
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should i change the title to "ginko vs clowd"
come on guys
at least watchdog and I do it with class
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nobody could make sense of what your post said or meant=babble
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Originally posted by mm
should i change the title to "ginko vs clowd"
come on guys
at least watchdog and I do it with class
That\'s not my style...
I\'m done with the thread anyways...
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v. bab·bled, bab·bling, bab·bles
v. intr.
To utter a meaningless confusion of words or sounds: Babies babble before they can talk.
My post made sense, had meaning, but you call it babble
Please explain in detail your reasoning
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Originally posted by Clowd
v. bab·bled, bab·bling, bab·bles
v. intr.
To utter a meaningless confusion of words or sounds: Babies babble before they can talk.
My post made sense, had meaning,
To you it did make sense, notice how nobody else replied or they flamed you.
Why don\'t you gather your thoughts, coherently type them up, and start a new thread. I would be happy to debate this with you...
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Chrono...
Quit your whining and "PS2 Is God; XBox Is Crap" sermon.
You say the only Sega games you like are Sonic and Phantasy Star, but not the online version.
Guess what? Sonic is available on GC, which you own. PS isn\'t going to any platform as it doesn\'t exist.
So give it a rest and just enjoy the game.
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waaaaa!!!! Sega isn\'t making tons of games for PS2, that must mean they are getting paid by MS and Nintendo!!
Why do you care, Chrono?
XBox has Morrowind, more ambitious than anything conceived or in development on PS2 in terms of RPGs besides FFXI, which happens to not be out anywhere but Japan until 2003.
Most of the PS2 RPGs I have played are stagnant. They use old story formulas and even older gameplay elements. I don\'t know how you can consider many of these "fun".
Konami has MGS: S coming out first on XBox
Namco is coming out with Soul Calibur 2 on all platforms
Atlus is making Shin Megami Tensei online for XBox
Sega is making several American and Japan style games for XBox
Tecmo is making Ninja Gaiden (which will be big) and DOA:volleyball :)
Capcom is making Steel Batallion and Dino Crisis 3
and etc. Don\'t give me that bullcrap about Sega being the only Japanese developer working on XBox games. And what about the great American devs working on XBox? Sega (VC and etc.), EA, Activision, Lionhead, Sierra, etc. Euro devs. - Ubi Soft, Infogrames, etc.
XBox is NOT starved for content, nor quality of content, it appears. There are over 200 games that will be available by Christmas 2002, yet idiots like you will still proclaim that Halo is the only game worth playing :rolleyes: Why don\'t you get off that gig, ok?
Eric Jacob
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yeah, but TODAY halo is the only game worth playing
i dont wanna have to wait 6 months to blow the dust off my xbox
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so go play Morrowind, or invite 3 friends over and play Hunter, play the spiritual successor to WSB\'98 and get WSB. Buy the fantastic Moto GP, and if you got balls, play it over GameSpy! Outlaw Golf has been getting praise from everyone (especially if you like HSG3), or pick up some great old games like JSRF, GUNVALKYRIE, Blood Omen 2, Rallisport Challenge, and Tony Hawk 3.
Point is, you are either enjoying inferior versions of some of those games on PS2, or you are trying to dislike XBox without actually playing the games. Morrowind is my latest game and it is truly excellent! It has been getting high 8\'s and 9\'s from reviewers. Even G-Spot gave it an 8.5.
If you can enjoy Frontline on PS2, you can certainly enjoy any of those titles, especially when Frontline contains much of the same from the past 2 MOH games, but without the multiplayer.
Eric Jacob
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And so Altered brutally ripped the words from my mouth.
Edit: Twice!
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all those games (except outlaw golf, cause i havent played it yet) you listed are mediochre or more of the same
so what if the ports have a few less slowdowns (blood omen2, tony hawk3), the degredation in xbox control would promote the PS2 version for me
hunter was boring as poop, wsb2003 made me feel like i was watching more than i was playing, gunvalkrye was like a balloon in the hot sun (yeah, not a good thing), and everyone knows damn well how i feel about blurry rallisport
so there you see, it makes no difference to me really what console the games are on. i want content, not graphics
most of the xbox games are like a picasso
pretty to look at, for a little while, than you move quickly onto the next one
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I know you feel like responding again Altered, but don\'t--I know, I\'ve been there.
IMO, you\'re wrong mm.
And that is as far as you\'ll ever get.
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and there you have it folks.
Eric Jacob
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and my OPINIONS are wrong how?
you guys think cause its got a little green x on it thats its the be all, end all of gaming
morrowind on the xbox is a joke of a game. it doesnt matter if its the dev\'s fault or the xbox\'s limitations.
the rest of my point about the games are valid
especially my analogy to picasso
:)
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your opinions are valid?!?!? You obviously haven\'t even played Morrowind yet. You are just relying on fanboy comments made in the topic further down on the page. The game runs steady at 30fps except for large crowds and heavy atmosphere, much like GASP Shenmue!!! The scope actually matches Shenmue, and beats it it size easily. This game is literally the biggest I have ever seen and I can understand why it took years to develop.
Go PLAY the ****ing games and quit *****ing about things you don\'t know about. All those games (with the exception of GV, which is much loved or much hated) have been getting much better than average scores.
You seem to enjoy Frontline with it\'s standard amount of slowdown, blur, average gameplay, etc.
I can admit I love to play Frontline, but I also love games on XBox that are much improved over the rinse and repeat formula that EA has given it\'s games, it makes me sick to buy Fronline because it seems I am encouraging them to keep on making the same games.
Eric Jacob
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thanks for yet again supporting my theory that xbox zealots are so hostile
anyways, do you forget where i work?
i played morrowind last week
its a piece of ****e, the only difference between the PC version is that the pc version runs smoother
the battle system is totally wack
how dare you knock shenmue! shenmue has action, drama, and *gasp* atmosphere!
morrowind has lots of mofo\'s standing around pissed off to be talking to you, and too much to say
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you\'ve seen me hostile mm, and that was NOT it. That was me telling you to stop bitching and actually play games.
You have never said where you work, btw.
I compared it only to Shenmue in size, Shenmue and Shenmue II are obviously better games, but Morrowind is truly excellent.
Eric Jacob
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yeah, i apologize *ouch that hurt*
i work at a blockbuster video aside from school, so i get games very quickly, often before street date
PC morrowind is a very pretty game that has some SEVERE gameplay issues
thats about all i can give it
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Well, this looks like someone\'s getting a head start on the big "war".
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You\'re wrong in my opinion, that\'s all.
They have less slowdowns and better graphics/sound. And I don\'t care what you say, slowdown affects the game, and my enjoyment of it--esp TH3, the slowdown on the PS2 is crazy sometimes.
I think Hunter is a very fine game. WSB is also a very fine game--both are getting great reviews too.
I was let down by Gunvalkrye, it was ok, but it could have been better. I wouldn\'t put it anywhere on my list.
Ralisport is a very good game, and lots of fun with friends.
Morrowind gave me a headache to play--I\'ve never experienced that before, but I think it probably was the small but frequent interruptions to cache parts of the level. I liked the gameplay for the couple hours I played, but I can\'t say I enjoyed it for what it did to me. The combat is crap. mm is right about the NPCs who are grumpy, but then talk for ages. I hated that they built this bad ass game, let you do all this detailed stuff to your character, then pitted you off against crabs, rats and bugs. Ugh. I can see why people would like this game. It\'s quite an accomplishment (disregarding graphically), but I\'ll never play it again, PC or xbox.
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so there you see, it makes no difference to me really what console the games are on. i want content, not graphics
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And yet your biggest complaint about Ralisport is that it is blurry? That Halo runs at 30fps? hm. Yet you will live with slowdown and every other graphical shortcoming on PS2?
I know, I know--you expect more--but at the end of the day does it matter which box is spinning that disc? If you are getting a better complete game who cares if it\'s the xbox?
About the controller: pick up the PS2 pad converter and you can stop that problem too. I would think someone so offended by the xbox pad, would have done that by now.
And again, in the last couple months there has not been a great come for PS2.
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there\'s no point to bring up my other quirks with halo and rallisport, they\'re well known to everyone
content before graphics? halo and rallisport are two prime examples of the opposite. hunter and gunvalkrye are two more
like i said, they\'re pretty to look at for a bit, but they\'re duds in the long run (for me). i\'ll never, ever play halo again. after beating it on legendary, i have zero interest in going back thru and seeing the same tired levels.
look at something like circus maximus, *shudder*
you say nothin good has come out on PS2 (you forgot moh:f), well i can say the same thing for xbox, and the GC is even worse
of course i overlook a few more graphical shortcomings on PS2 games, they run on two year old hardware and with a machine hard as nails to dev for.
early summer is always a slow time for the industry
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like i said, they\'re pretty to look at for a bit, but they\'re duds in the long run (for me). i\'ll never, ever play halo again. after beating it on legendary, i have zero interest in going back thru and seeing the same tired levels.
What about the multiplayer. I play 2 vs. 2 Halo like 2 or 3 days a week with some guys I know. Its so much fun. 2 vs. 2 to 50 on Hang Em High.
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nah, my friends dont have xbox\'s so if when play multi (mostly coop), we were restricted to 2 player split screen
split screen sucks for just about any game
i\'ll wait for the PC version and do it right
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Despite what you say, LAN parties with 8 guys is the most fun I\'ve ever had with a console (and that\'s no exageration).
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nah,
me + 3 friends + mario Kart 64 + case of sam adams beats that
:)
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Originally posted by mm
nah,
me + 3 friends + mario Kart 64 + case of sam adams beats that
:)
Nothing beats playing Mario Kart on a buzz...alcohol tends to push aside the hostility that game brings all to often.
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yeah, especially when all my friends could make the "over the wall" shortcut on wario\'s stadium and i couldnt
GRRRR!
:mad:
thats ok tho, i mastered the rainbow road shortcut and cut my laptimes down to under 30 secs
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Originally posted by mm
yeah, especially when all my friends could make the "over the wall" shortcut on wario\'s stadium and i couldnt
GRRRR!
:mad:
that or being a pro with green shells...I owned battle mode.
I pulled off the Wario Stadium shortcut like two times...I could usually catch up with boost and if I happen to be near them with shells it was all over.
The Rainbow Road shortcut was always 50/50 when trying to execute it...extremely frustrating.
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Sorry, Mario Kart has nothing on 8 player Halo.
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I suppose nobody played or knew of a little game called Death Tank...
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Six player gt3 i link rules all
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For one thing, just the logistics of setting that up are an enourmous burden. Plus, it\'s still just a racing game.
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I know this is very random, but I think all of you should buy Rez. Its fabulous.
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I thought VF4 was arcade perfect and that Sega said they found no difficulty on developing on PS2 and that if PS2 can handle VF4 then it can also handle DOA3.
WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED NOW???
I also thought Skies of Arcadia was coming on PS2 too.
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Originally posted by Unicron!
I thought VF4 was arcade perfect
They said it would be...obviously you haven\'t played or seen it on PS2. It\'s not arcade perfect, but it\'s not a bad port either.
and that Sega said they found no difficulty on developing on PS2 and that if PS2 can handle VF4 then it can also handle DOA3.
I almost forgot about this...they had stated this about 3-6 months prior to finishing up VF4. I bet it\'s a different story now...
Can PS2 handel DOA3...I believe if they were to port it, you would see a slight graphical degrade...Slight, but noticeable.
I also thought Skies of Arcadia was coming on PS2 too.
Late 2003 or 2004!!! GC will be getting it first...my bets are they are tweaking the graphics and giving it a bit more engaging battle system...I hope they are anyway.
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Originally posted by Ginko
They said it would be...obviously you haven\'t played or seen it on PS2. It\'s not arcade perfect, but it\'s not a bad port either.
Whats the difference in graphical quality between the PS2 and the arcade version?I ve read that the only difference is that there are very very few parts of the backround on the PS2 that are not 3D.
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That\'s one of the differences...another is there are some jaggies. They aren\'t like stick\'em in your eyes apparent, but noticeable. That and some of the stages and characters seem to have lost a little bit of graphical flair found in the arcade version.
Like I said, it\'s not a bad port. The problems are very minor and nothing to ***** about. However, it is not arcade perfect...
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Oh yeah and the jaggies.S**t the jaggies anyways.They arent that much of a problem.
...and characters seem to have lost a little bit of graphical flair found in the arcade version.
On characters too?
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Originally posted by Unicron!
Oh yeah and the jaggies.S**t the jaggies anyways.They arent that much of a problem.
On characters too?
As with the rest of the game, the PS2 port isn\'t quite as polished. Once again, I will say that it\'s not that big of a deal. I suggest playing the game for yourself, and you be the judge...
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worse textures, MUCH worse lighting, much shimmering and jaggies, etc. Gameplay = intact!
Eric Jacob
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i wont bother reading the 5-7 posts above this one, but to add onto altered post
gameplay = king and all that really matters
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I love VF4, but the graphics do leave much to be desired.
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Originally posted by mm
i wont bother reading the 5-7 posts above this one, but to add onto altered post
gameplay = king and all that really matters
Amen to that.
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w00t! Gameplay makes a game. Graphics are superficial!
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Graphics are important to me; they\'re almost as important as gameplay.
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cause yer a graphics tart [© mm 1999]
:)
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Originally posted by AlteredBeast
worse textures, MUCH worse lighting, much shimmering and jaggies, etc. Gameplay = intact!
Eric Jacob
Huh?!!Is it THAT much inferior compared to the arcade???
I have a DVD with the arcade trailer and a demo disk from OPM which shows some PS2 footage of the game and I really havent noticed much difference.The first and most noticable thing are the jaggies from what I saw.I really havent noticed any major difference except from the jaggies.
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Unicron, I suggest you play VF4 for yourself and come up with your own assessments of the game.
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play the helicopter level (Jacky\'s), particularly with Lei Fei and Lau Chan and you will notice big discrepancies in the lighting, shimmering, flow of characters clothing, etc. PS2 Hardware could never recreate a game which uses NAOMI 2 to it\'s fullest, tons of texture memory, 6 (I think) light sources, etc. all at 10 million polys fully lit and textured! I say PS2 did a pretty damn good job doing it, though.
Eric Jacob
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Yeah, it\'s pretty much what Altered says.
mm, you use graphics tart as if it\'s somehow a bad thing. Graphics are very important in terms of atmosphere, immersion and overall enjoyment. Graphical problems take me out of the game, remind me that I am playing a game, and sometimes impede progress/fun factor.
You say you have high expectations, why not insist on the whole package? Great story, great gameplay and great graphics ALL go together to make a great game.
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Originally posted by AlteredBeast
play the helicopter level (Jacky\'s), particularly with Lei Fei and Lau Chan and you will notice big discrepancies in the lighting, shimmering, flow of characters clothing, etc. PS2 Hardware could never recreate a game which uses NAOMI 2 to it\'s fullest, tons of texture memory, 6 (I think) light sources, etc. all at 10 million polys fully lit and textured! I say PS2 did a pretty damn good job doing it, though.
Eric Jacob
I am dissapointed then:(
Ofcourse I ll have to play both versions as Ginko says.BUT THERE IS NO VF4 IN THE ARCADES IN MY COUNTRY!!!!DAMN!!!!I HATE MY COUNTRY!!!!
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On the subject of VF4 I guess I can sum it up like this: The PS2 version was done as well as it could be and Sega was pretty good at hiding the differences between the Arcade version and the PS2 version. But of course, a train eye will see that the Arcade version is massively superior on a technical basis.
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In VF sites seems they dont have a trained eye when they said its an arcade perfect port.Oh well.I was fooled:(.Better trust my eyes than theirs.
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they mean in gameplay, my friend. I don\'t think you would care, anyway, an SPoD looks good even in flat-shaded polys :)
Eric Jacob
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well my thing is [and many will share my opinion]
arcade port or no port, it is always going to be gameplay over graphics.
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Seriously...people who keep nitpicking on minor flaws on slightly less than perfect ports should stop playing games so that their lives won\'t be so miserable ...moaning all day and night about a few jaggies and missing pixels instead of enjoying a perfect game.
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VF4 seems like a good port. Granted I never played the arcade version but the graphics seemed beautiful to me and the gameplay was superb. Me and my brother had 100 matches in a row one night just because we kept getting tied, he eventually won, that bastard! :)