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Title: New Computer On The Way!
Post by: Ace on June 12, 2002, 10:28:18 AM
Hi,

This is what I just had my company order so I can do some video editing and 3D graphic work at home.
I am using a Dell 333MGHZ now so this should be a real improvment.

I am not much of a PC gamer, maybe a demo download here and there, but with this new system I might give it a try.
What do you think? Do I have enough here to play some of the new and more system demanding games?


Dell 8200
DIM 8200 SERIES,P4,2.26AGHZ,533,NTWD,PRS
256MB PC800 RDRAM
19(17.9 IN VIS,.26DP)
64MB GEFORCE4 MX 420 W/TV OUT VIDEO
80GB 7200 RPM ULTRA ATA,43/8200
WIN XP PRO,ENG,DIM,TIED
10/100 PCI FAST ETHERNET NIC
48X MAX VARIABLE CD-ROM DRIVE
SOUNDBLASTER LIVE 1024 VOICES

Thanks!

Ace
Title: New Computer On The Way!
Post by: videoholic on June 12, 2002, 11:07:22 AM
DOUBLE THE RAM......
Title: New Computer On The Way!
Post by: Samwise on June 12, 2002, 11:09:06 AM
Overall it\'s a very nice machine. Perhaps a little more RAM would be great, as Video pointed out. The gfx card isn\'t the fastest, but it isn\'t bad either - especially if you\'re not a big PC gamer. But to be honest I\'m not sure how \'bad\' it is compared to the bigger GF4 cards. :)
Title: New Computer On The Way!
Post by: Ace on June 12, 2002, 01:08:36 PM
Thanks!

More RAM is already on the list. I almost ordered the 128 GEFORCE4.

You think this will be much of a problem?

Ace
Title: New Computer On The Way!
Post by: videoholic on June 12, 2002, 01:53:15 PM
If you aren\'t using it for gaming then the video card was fine.  You doing DV?
Title: New Computer On The Way!
Post by: Ace on June 12, 2002, 01:57:48 PM
Yup. Almost all of our work is done on mini DV.  I have a lot of projects that I could work on at home after hours so I decided to upgrade and get something that will fill my video and 3D needs.

Ace
Title: New Computer On The Way!
Post by: mm on June 12, 2002, 01:59:07 PM
can you guys recommend a good minidv recorder

my old vhs-c is gonna bite the dust soon and im looking to go digital
Title: New Computer On The Way!
Post by: videoholic on June 12, 2002, 02:09:59 PM
How much you looking to spend?  

I have this one (http://bpgprod.sel.sony.com/bpcnav/app/99999/16/113/58442.99999.product.BPC.html?reload=1)

Don\'t look at list.  You can get it for quite a bit less.
Title: New Computer On The Way!
Post by: mm on June 12, 2002, 02:12:51 PM
damnit vid, are ya trying to give me a heart attack?
:)

i gotta stand somewhere under 1000$
anything in my cheap-o range?

perhaps i miscommunciated what i meant
i thought we were talking about dv camera\'s
:nerd:
Title: New Computer On The Way!
Post by: videoholic on June 12, 2002, 02:13:55 PM
Just put it on a credit card.  Or better yet, Racer\'s credit card.

This one isn\'t DV, but it can do 24P.   Very nice. (http://bssc.sel.sony.com/Professional/webapp/ModelInfo?p=16&sp=114&hid=22452&id=55889)

Here is my camcorder. (http://bssc.sel.sony.com/Professional/webapp/ModelInfo?p=2&sp=11&hid=22337&id=63285)
Title: New Computer On The Way!
Post by: Ace on June 12, 2002, 02:23:22 PM
That\'s a nice little unit. I\'ve rented it a couple of times. Does anyone make a consumer level DV unit?

Ace
Title: New Computer On The Way!
Post by: Samwise on June 12, 2002, 11:31:34 PM
mm, I\'m a Canon whore myself, so I\'d recommed that. The GL1 is nice. The Sony VX2000 is very popular too. But these cams are 3CCD and might not fit in your cheap-o range. ;) I\'m not too familiar with the cheaper cams, but Sony and Canon are nice brands. Perhaps JVC as well. :D

Oh, and I have to mention this cam.... A Panasonic prosumer DV cam with 24P, 30P and 60i switchable. For a list price of $3500. :eek: http://www.panasonic.com/PBDS/subcat/Products/cams_ccorders/f_ag-dvx100.html
Title: New Computer On The Way!
Post by: Ryu on June 12, 2002, 11:32:25 PM
Quote
More RAM is already on the list. I almost ordered the 128 GEFORCE4.


I\'ll say this, if you can, ditch the MX GF4 card and go with a GF3 Ti card instead.  If that\'s not offerend, then go with a GF4 Ti card.  Just understand this, when it comes to the GF line, MX cards are crap and Ti is great.  Last I read, the GF3 Ti model stood toe to toe with the GF4 MX line.  Just food for thought.
Title: New Computer On The Way!
Post by: Tyrant on June 13, 2002, 01:36:45 AM
Ryu is absolutely right go with the Ti series, also incresing the ram was a wise choice.
Title: New Computer On The Way!
Post by: Ace on June 13, 2002, 03:30:46 AM
Thanks for the info.

Can you guys give a good source on the web to catch up on all the new boards.

As I said, I am using this system for 3D and video work but I would like to get into some PC gaming. Doom III anyone?

Thanks!

Ace
Title: New Computer On The Way!
Post by: Samwise on June 13, 2002, 03:38:29 AM
Ace, try PC sites like:

http://www.anandtech.com (the forums are great too)
http://www.sharkyextreme.com
http://www.tomshardware.com (although a bit messy and not as good as it used to be)

And a ton of others. I\'m sure nO-One can add some to that list. ;)

Here\'s a comparison of different gfx cards in Quake 3:

http://www6.tomshardware.com/graphic/02q2/020418/vgacharts-03.html
Title: New Computer On The Way!
Post by: WakeRider04 on June 13, 2002, 05:39:48 AM
I know this is lil\' late for a reply, but meh.

I have exact same thing..I mean exact, and I\'m also going what to do vidoe editing, but to it best I\'m goin\' to have to get close to 1 gig or 2 on memory.  A 2.2 prossesory and a 160g harddrive...sounds like of like over kill, but thats what you truly would want if you got big time into editing and 3d creations.

Also, I\'m thinkin\' of buying a GeForce4 Ti 200 4600 titanium...just for ****s and giggles...only costs about 400 bucks....HA


PS. I didn\'t bother reading everyones posts so if ya said that already, I\'m sorry.
Title: New Computer On The Way!
Post by: Esco on June 13, 2002, 08:12:42 AM
I would get duel 2gig processors (amd)
a gig of ram
the badest Vodoo
two 80gig HD
a lan card
zip drive
dvd burner
cd burner
dvd drive
one huge ass board
nice sound card
its own Air Conditioning unit
oh yeah!
Title: New Computer On The Way!
Post by: videoholic on June 13, 2002, 08:51:58 AM
Oh yeah, the hard drives..

You really need to run the drives in an array to get the speed up.  You will have tons of dropped frames editing anything taxing on a single drive system.  I tried for about a week and went out and bought 3 firewire external drives.  Not a dropped frame since.  Much better.
Title: New Computer On The Way!
Post by: nO-One on June 13, 2002, 10:12:38 AM
As Ryu said get a upper level GF3 instead of the GF4 MX, the MX doesn\'t have the vertex shaders which are the magic in todays cards, and the memory bandwidth is also much lower.

Also the soundblaster is outdated, hell it\'s been outdated for a long time, Creative finally got off their fat asses and released the Audigy, while a nice card their driver support still and most likely will always be bad.
Title: New Computer On The Way!
Post by: Mr. Kennedy on June 13, 2002, 10:24:52 AM
trust RYU, he hooked me up real nice...  look at the system I have now.  Got it late April...

key things

Dell 8200

2.44 Ghz
512 Ram
128 GF Ti 4600
40x CDRW drive
Monsoon Speakers
Flat Screen FD monitor

Soon to get, top o the line sound card :)
Title: New Computer On The Way!
Post by: Jar O Pickles on June 13, 2002, 10:26:07 AM
ive said it once ive said before stay away from rdram its fast and all but ddr ram is pretty good and much cheaper
rambus really figured out how to screw you with that stuff
hey heres some really fast ram but....
its really expensive and...
you can only upgrade in pairs and...
you can only buy one stick at a time
gee thanks
Title: New Computer On The Way!
Post by: videoholic on June 13, 2002, 11:07:59 AM
rdram came down in price quite a bit.  It\'s still more expensive than other ram, but I would be hard pressed to say any of the Rams are expensive any more.  It\'s amazing hoe cheap Ram is now.
Title: New Computer On The Way!
Post by: Ace on June 13, 2002, 02:07:48 PM
Thanks guys for all the input.

Videoholic, I\'ve been looking into which Fire Wire drives I want to buy for the past week or so. Any recommendations? I want to be able to bring the drive home to work on projects and then transport my work back to my office.

nO-One, I only got that board because it was so cheap. I have a really nice Delta 2044 board I use for recording my guitar. It doubles as an awesome sound card.

Ryu, It\'s already done. I wish I asked you guys before I ordered the system. I might upgrade in the future if it doesn\'t fit my needs.

Thanks for the links Samwise.

Ace
Title: New Computer On The Way!
Post by: videoholic on June 13, 2002, 04:25:33 PM
I have 3 lacie drives, but they are kind of loud.  I\'m not sure if they are all loud or if these are just louder than normal.  Actually now that USBII is out it\'s actually faster than firewire.  I have 2 drives for video and one drive for audio.  Works very very well.  Did not work at all with one drive though.  couldn\'t scrub on the time line.  Just still frames and crap.  It sucked.  Now with multiple drives there is enough speed to scrub video on the time line.  Definite must.