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Title: mEXICO O - USA 2!!!! YEAH!!! U-S-A! U-S-A! U-S-A!
Post by: GmanJoe on June 17, 2002, 04:42:10 AM
I\'m sleepy now. Garsch darn time zones!

Anyway...that was a great game. Ironically, Mexico dominated but couldn\'t score. The US relied heavily on couter attacks - hence the two goals! :D
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Post by: mjps21983 on June 17, 2002, 06:44:10 AM
Hell to the muthafukin yeah, now watch out germany here we come, yeah we still havent forgot about wwII, its on.
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Post by: Samwise on June 17, 2002, 07:05:43 AM
Lol... I\'m sorry, but I think my money\'s going on zee Nazi\'s for this one. ;)
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Post by: ROL Jamas on June 17, 2002, 07:09:03 AM
Yeah well...a lot of people said the Nazi\'s would win and stuff, yeah! If we can beat Mexico, we got one hell of a chance against Germany.

Oh yeah, and Mexico, what a bunch of asses....6 yellow cards and a Red Card, and only one of the yellow cards wasn\'t in the 2nd half.

Round of Eight, baby, nothin\'s goona stop us from takin\' it :) See Yuz.
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Post by: mjps21983 on June 17, 2002, 07:14:41 AM
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Originally posted by Samwise
Lol... I\'m sorry, but I think my money\'s going on zee Nazi\'s for this one. ;)


You sure no a good way to burst a young dreamful mans bubble, damnit samwise for this, I say where the hell is your team, oops thats right sitting at home drinking there sorrows away, hahahahahahaha.
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Post by: mm on June 17, 2002, 07:16:43 AM
yeah, it must be cool to call the germans nazi\'s
enthnocentricity runs deep

:rolleyes:
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Post by: Samwise on June 17, 2002, 07:36:40 AM
Bah, it\'s not like I meant it. I was J-O-K-I-N-G. Geez, people are so oversensitive these days.
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Post by: clowd on June 17, 2002, 08:20:53 AM
if america wins the cup, it would be horrendous for the world,  americans dont even like soccer, most dont watch it, play, they think its boring, but they win "the worlds sport" what a slap in the face to the world if they win
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Post by: mjps21983 on June 17, 2002, 08:29:34 AM
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Originally posted by Clowd
if america wins the cup, it would be horrendous for the world,  americans dont even like soccer, most dont watch it, play, they think its boring, but they win "the worlds sport" what a slap in the face to the world if they win


You\'d be surprised how many people actually go to soccer games, just because the majority of america doesnt care, doesnt mean there are alot of people that like it, we have what like 250 million people in our country so say 30% of americans enjoy soccer that would be 7500000 people, so thats still alot, even if 30 percent is a high number.
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Post by: GmanJoe on June 17, 2002, 08:29:39 AM
That\'s probably true...as our "potentially" best athletes for soccer are playing football or baseball or basketball. Many of those athletes are actually very good all-around-athletes but just happen to go to the sport that either 1) pays more and 2)they played most.

If soccer was more popular in the States, I\'m quite sure our soccer program would be as illustrious as football/basketball/baseball.

One Mexican fan said it best, "America is the land of basketball. We are the land of soccer. How could we lose? It\'s not right."

Heheh....!
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Post by: videoholic on June 17, 2002, 08:30:53 AM
I have always felt that USA had it in them to go all the way.
Title: mEXICO O - USA 2!!!! YEAH!!! U-S-A! U-S-A! U-S-A!
Post by: Bozco on June 17, 2002, 10:35:58 AM
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Originally posted by Samwise
Bah, it\'s not like I meant it. I was J-O-K-I-N-G. Geez, people are so oversensitive these days.



So true!!!!  Oh, and I think the Mexicans got all those cards because they\'re still mad because we won\'t let them in our country.:D
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Post by: videoholic on June 17, 2002, 10:38:18 AM
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Originally posted by Bozco



So true!!!!  Oh, and I think the Mexicans got all those cards because they\'re still mad because we won\'t let them in our country.:D


I didn\'t watch the match..  What\'s this?  Did we give all the mexicans green cards?
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Post by: Bozco on June 17, 2002, 10:40:04 AM
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Originally posted by Videoholic


I didn\'t watch the match..  What\'s this?  Did we give all the mexicans green cards?


Haha, from what I hear the Mexicans got a bunch of yellow cards and one red card all in the 2nd half.
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Post by: shockwaves on June 17, 2002, 11:07:15 AM
I\'m watching the rebroadcast now.  They did some pretty bad things.  Kicking a guy while he\'s down to provoke him.  Just stupid.

Go USA!  How you think it would be such a bad thing for us to win I don\'t know.  I thought the underdogs are supposed to be sentimental favorites :)
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Post by: Bozco on June 17, 2002, 11:13:40 AM
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Originally posted by shockwaves
I\'m watching the rebroadcast now.  They did some pretty bad things.  Kicking a guy while he\'s down to provoke him.  Just stupid.

Go USA!  How you think it would be such a bad thing for us to win I don\'t know.  I thought the underdogs are supposed to be sentimental favorites :)


Remember the underdogs are always a favorite unless its USA.
Title: mEXICO O - USA 2!!!! YEAH!!! U-S-A! U-S-A! U-S-A!
Post by: ROL Jamas on June 17, 2002, 11:54:50 AM
Yes, everybody hates us, not like we\'re not used to it or anything :)

But yes, Mexico was quite flustered. Headbutts to the head while sticking your cleats into somebody isn\'t exactly fair. I just got done watching the rebroadcast...I could have very easily been 3 to 0, ya never know. We 0wn Mexico!

And who knows, with all of the yellow cards they were getting, then they got the red...maybe they were trying to combine the two INTO Green Cards! Yes, that was it!

See Yuz.
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Post by: clowd on June 17, 2002, 12:02:31 PM
i dont know why all this about not wanting mexicans in usa,  they work in the us for little,  usually under bad work conditions, and do the dirty works most americans dont want to do,

y does everyone hate you americans?  look how you talk about them in your posts
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Post by: ROL Jamas on June 17, 2002, 12:08:55 PM
Would you shut up, seriously?

Most of us are kidding, damnit. Why can\'t you take a god damn hint that everything that we say is NOT serious, Clowd?

*takes mm\'s "Open mouth, insert foot award" and gives it to Clowd*

Cherish it. See Yuz.
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Post by: clowd on June 17, 2002, 12:12:31 PM
be quite you arrogant american, i guess its ok for you \'superior\' americans to talk about the rest of the world, oh we\'re just joking when we call aribs rag heads, etc

the world hates you because you think your better then everyone, you think you democracy is so much better

look at hiroshima and nagasaki, you killed 200,000+ CIVILIANS but when 3000 of your civilians die,  its the worst thing ever
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Post by: ROL Jamas on June 17, 2002, 12:21:11 PM
Ah, so now this is an argument over my ethics, great.

So now you\'re attacking the fact that I\'m "arrogant"? Where the hell was I arrogant? Or, to rephrase, where were we arrogant? Last I checked on all of those World Cup topics, everyone was just as arrogant about their country as we were. You got a problem with how we act, take it up with someone else. I don\'t want to hear your nonsensical jabbering, it\'s a waste of my time.

Go on and ***** all you want, I really don\'t give a **** how you feel about me, or the USA for that matter, "Clowd".

See Yuz.
Title: mEXICO O - USA 2!!!! YEAH!!! U-S-A! U-S-A! U-S-A!
Post by: videoholic on June 17, 2002, 12:27:34 PM
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Originally posted by Clowd
be quite you arrogant american, i guess its ok for you \'superior\' americans to talk about the rest of the world, oh we\'re just joking when we call aribs rag heads, etc

the world hates you because you think your better then everyone, you think you democracy is so much better

look at hiroshima and nagasaki, you killed 200,000+ CIVILIANS but when 3000 of your civilians die,  its the worst thing ever



I can\'t even figure out if you are worth replying to.  The ignorance in comparing the dropping of the nukes to the terrorist act of the WTC is ridiculous.
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Post by: shockwaves on June 17, 2002, 12:28:20 PM
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Originally posted by Clowd
be quite you arrogant american, i guess its ok for you \'superior\' americans to talk about the rest of the world, oh we\'re just joking when we call aribs rag heads, etc

the world hates you because you think your better then everyone, you think you democracy is so much better

look at hiroshima and nagasaki, you killed 200,000+ CIVILIANS but when 3000 of your civilians die,  its the worst thing ever


The funny thing, this is more of an ignorant generalization than anything anyone else said.

Personally, I think our government is the worst in the world.  I\'m probably alone in that view on this board, but not all Americans think the way you are characterizing us.  I love this country though.  It\'s unconditional love, it\'s where I was born, and where I always have lived.  Do I think I\'m better than everyone?  No, just you.

And how is talking about Hiroshima any different from us calling Germans Nazis or characterizing Russians by the actions of Stalin?  That was a long time ago, and that was during a time of war.  Was it bad?  Yes.  But just because millions died 50 years ago doesn\'t mean thousands dying today isn\'t tragic.  If you think that way, then I will gladly look down on you, and anyone else that thinks that way.
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Post by: Coredweller on June 17, 2002, 12:36:57 PM
I think that everyone who wants to have one of these serious "us and them" discussions should change the location field of their user profile so that is shows where they actually are.  It\'s sort of difficult to tell how to compose your reply to a person who\'s from "sector 7"
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Post by: Bozco on June 17, 2002, 12:46:42 PM
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Originally posted by Clowd
be quite you arrogant american, i guess its ok for you \'superior\' americans to talk about the rest of the world, oh we\'re just joking when we call aribs rag heads, etc

the world hates you because you think your better then everyone, you think you democracy is so much better



He wasn\'t arrogant anywhere in his post.  All I see is you calling him an arrogent AMERICAN just for the sole reason he is from america.  Now stop with your over generalizing, your just going to make a fool of yourself.  How would you like it if I thought all people from Sector 7 were fools just because you are.;)   Yea, you get the point.

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look at hiroshima and nagasaki, you killed 200,000+ CIVILIANS but when 3000 of your civilians die,  its the worst thing ever


Thats different in so many ways its sad.  For one we were directly in war with Japan and we did what we needed to end the war before more american lives were lost.  Theres no love in war.  While the attack on the WTC was unprovoked as far as I\'m concernced.  It was just a bunch of terrorist that have been brainwashed to hate america.
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Post by: kopking on June 17, 2002, 01:04:03 PM
well good on the usa.... beat germany ( i think thats who they got)




its good to see all countries getting better, and no clear cut favourites......if you know what i mean....



we got brazil next... come on you england
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Post by: Luke on June 17, 2002, 01:19:14 PM
i listen to sports talk radio all day at work, and i got there at 7am and got all excited when i heard. the people i work with thought i was weird.


although i think the krauts are gonna kill us (pun intended)
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Post by: videoholic on June 17, 2002, 02:29:15 PM
Kopking and Luke, shame on you for bringing the topic back to soccer.  We were just about to have a lovely discussion about why Hiroshima is totally different and how we warned them repeatedly before dropping those bombs, but they refused to back down.  So in essence they dropped the bomb on themselves.

Yawn.  Nevermind.  Let\'s talk about soccer.

I have always felt USA had it in them to go all the way.
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Post by: ROL Jamas on June 17, 2002, 02:34:40 PM
*goes into Samwise mode* Shaddup, you felt nothing *end Samwise mode*

:D

See Yuz.
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Post by: clowd on June 17, 2002, 02:36:38 PM
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Originally posted by Videoholic
Kopking and Luke, shame on you for bringing the topic back to soccer.  We were just about to have a lovely discussion about why Hiroshima is totally different and how we warned them repeatedly before dropping those bombs, but they refused to back down.  So in essence they dropped the bomb on themselves.
 


Lets reverse everything.

If Japan had a bomb, and they warned the us, would the us back down?

ask the pilots, the ones who dropped the bomb on hiroshima if they would do it again?
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Post by: mjps21983 on June 17, 2002, 02:42:49 PM
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Originally posted by Clowd


Lets reverse everything.

If Japan had a bomb, and they warned the us, would the us back down?

ask the pilots, the ones who dropped the bomb on hiroshima if they would do it again?


How old are u? Cuz by the way your acting you seem a little childish to be on your parents computer, your thoughts and arguments are uneducated and foolish, we used that bomb on them to save our asses, war is war, there are rules, but very few, i\'m sorry i feel bad we did what we did but its not gonna change anything now, everyone hates us cuz they are jealous they wanna have what we have, well guess what lifes not fair clowd 9 or what ever the f*ck ur name is, three final words, just grow up!!!
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Post by: videoholic on June 17, 2002, 02:45:55 PM
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Originally posted by Clowd


Lets reverse everything.

If Japan had a bomb, and they warned the us, would the us back down?

ask the pilots, the ones who dropped the bomb on hiroshima if they would do it again?


I have become weak by your ignorance.  I must go to sleep.  I\'m a mere mortal.  I can not compete with such power.:yawn:
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Post by: Coredweller on June 17, 2002, 02:55:10 PM
I\'m not with Clowd on every point (I still don\'t understand this "sector 7" thing) but I think you should all be a little more willing to challenge the conventional wisdom.

The fact is that Truman could have ordered one of the atomic bombs to be demonstrated on a sparsely populated area of Japan, and then waited to see whether they were willing to negotiate.  There would have still been one bomb remaining to use on a city if needed.  We were not certain either weapon would work, but that\'s not really important.  A dud dropped over Hiroshima would have been just as worthless as a dud dropped over an agricultural area.  

You must acknowledge that the decision to kill civilians was made with the goal of posturing ourselves against the Russians; it had nothing to do with ending the war quickly.  The Japanese leadership was looking for a face-saving way of surrendering at that point, and a less deadly demonstration would have brought the war to a close just as rapidly.
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Post by: videoholic on June 17, 2002, 02:59:07 PM
Very true, but you can\'t say we didn\'t give warning.  It could have very easily been prevented, but as you stated (Kinda) I\'m not sure if they really wanted them to heed the warning.  I think the US wanted to show the power.  

But hey, why did it take two bombs to stop the war?
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Post by: clowd on June 17, 2002, 03:08:21 PM
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Originally posted by mjps21983

everyone hates us cuz they are jealous they wanna have what we have, well guess what lifes not fair


i want what you have...badly
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Post by: GmanJoe on June 17, 2002, 03:30:31 PM
Okay...you thread hijackers! I want my SOCCER THREAD BACK! What the hell is this damn conversation about atomic bombs, eh? EH? EH?
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Post by: Coredweller on June 17, 2002, 03:32:12 PM
OK back to Soccer

If Germany beats us, I think we should nuke \'em.  What do ya say?
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Post by: videoholic on June 17, 2002, 03:43:33 PM
If we warn them first then I think it\'s ok.

So here it is.

"If you beat us we will nuke you," promised Bush at a press conference in the beloved rose garden.
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Post by: Luke on June 17, 2002, 03:44:33 PM
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Originally posted by Coredweller
OK back to Soccer

If Germany beats us, I think we should nuke \'em.  What do ya say?


I like the way you think buddy.
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Post by: cloud345 on June 17, 2002, 05:14:23 PM
See by the USA beating Mexico it made thousands of angry people lose ALOT of money.......also its one  first signs of the apocolypse! For it says when the free people who fought for there lives defeat the ones who wear the sombreroes on there heads shall force lava rain on the earth but if the free people also defeat the drunk people the world will be forced into war destroying evrything! RUN EVERYONE!
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Post by: Fayded on June 17, 2002, 05:33:44 PM
Quiet, you.


And i think we had every right to bomb Japan. The bastards got us at Pearl Harbor without warning. At least we warned them first....
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Post by: shockwaves on June 17, 2002, 05:55:09 PM
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Originally posted by Fayded
Quiet, you.


And i think we had every right to bomb Japan. The bastards got us at Pearl Harbor without warning. At least we warned them first....


I disagree.  We should not have bombed them, especially not twice.  Why not just set it off in the ocean, but close enough so they can see it?  No one is hurt, and they get the point.  Or at least select a military target, instead of attacking a largely civilian area like Hiroshima.  Still, they were warned, and it was during war, so that sets it apart from terrorist action.  It was bad, but not as bad.

And dropping the bombs, as was already mentioned, really had nothing to do with Japan.  It was to send a message to Russia.

And Cloud, grow up.  You sound like a moron.
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Post by: videoholic on June 17, 2002, 06:00:16 PM
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Originally posted by shockwaves


I disagree.  We should not have bombed them, especially not twice.  Why not just set it off in the ocean, but close enough so they can see it?  No one is hurt, and they get the point.  Or at least select a military target, instead of attacking a largely civilian area like Hiroshima.  Still, they were warned, and it was during war, so that sets it apart from terrorist action.  It was bad, but not as bad.

And dropping the bombs, as was already mentioned, really had nothing to do with Japan.  It was to send a message to Russia.

And Cloud, grow up.  You sound like a moron.


Dropping the first one into the ocean, at least they could see it?  Um, we dropped it right on them and they needed a second one to stop the war.  Dropping one in the ocean would only have gotten it wet.
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Post by: shockwaves on June 17, 2002, 06:08:17 PM
They would have surrendered before a second bomb if we gave them more time.  They were still scrambling to figure out what happened and how.  We only gave them a couple days.  That\'s horrible.
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Post by: Bozco on June 17, 2002, 06:31:44 PM
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Originally posted by shockwaves
They would have surrendered before a second bomb if we gave them more time.  They were still scrambling to figure out what happened and how.  We only gave them a couple days.  That\'s horrible.


No love in war. They started the war with us and they gave us no choice.
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Post by: shockwaves on June 17, 2002, 06:33:34 PM
I disagree with that, but even if that is true, why Hiroshima?  No military targets, no major industry.  Why not choose a military target?  They at least had the decency to do that.
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Post by: Bozco on June 17, 2002, 06:44:43 PM
The direct reason they chose those cities was because of industry.  They figured if they took out industry the Japanese would be forced to surrender.
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Post by: shockwaves on June 17, 2002, 06:45:52 PM
But that\'s the thing.  Hiroshima had no major war related industry.
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Post by: Bozco on June 17, 2002, 06:47:03 PM
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Originally posted by shockwaves
But that\'s the thing.  Hiroshima had no major war related industry.


I\'ve read that they both did.
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Post by: shockwaves on June 17, 2002, 06:51:12 PM
Nagasaki had industry.  That target had some military purpose.

Hiroshima didn\'t have military industry, at least not in the area that was destroyed.  I\'m almost one hundred percent sure there was no major target in that city.
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Post by: SwifDi on June 17, 2002, 07:26:17 PM
I am not going to be visiting any local taco shops for awhile.... They might wipe their ass with a piece of tortilla bread or something, you must always be on your feet....

(Cartwheels away)
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Post by: mjps21983 on June 17, 2002, 08:58:36 PM
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Originally posted by Clowd


i want what you have...badly


I know, you must be canadian, or something, i really dont care, i think the fact is that the terrorist groups that hate us hate us out of pure jealousy, they see us being a rich sovereign country, so if they dont want what we have, then why does everyone come to our country for schools, and to own a business?
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Post by: SwifDi on June 17, 2002, 09:37:17 PM
Speaking of, why haven\'t we nuked Canada yet? I mean, come on, talk about a worthless and meaningless country!

;)
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Post by: videoholic on June 18, 2002, 03:31:56 AM
I have a quick honest question.  We have many people from other countries and I was just wondering if they have problems with people trying to come there?  Like does Norway have problems with immigrants coming in and trying to live there?
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Post by: shockwaves on June 18, 2002, 04:38:02 AM
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Originally posted by mjps21983


I know, you must be canadian, or something, i really dont care, i think the fact is that the terrorist groups that hate us hate us out of pure jealousy, they see us being a rich sovereign country, so if they dont want what we have, then why does everyone come to our country for schools, and to own a business?


The terrorist don\'t necessarily want what they have, they just have a problem with how we get it.
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Post by: macabre on June 18, 2002, 05:14:09 AM
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Originally posted by Coredweller
OK back to Soccer

If Germany beats us, I think we should nuke \'em.  What do ya say?


That´s o.k. We rather get nuked than loose a football game ( oh, soccer I`m sorry).
Bring the bombs.
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Post by: Samwise on June 18, 2002, 06:32:49 AM
I\'d just like to say that Clowd in no way represents more than himself.... I figure you already knew that, but just to make sure... just because he might think every non-American hates America doesn\'t make it so.
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Post by: clowd on June 18, 2002, 07:30:28 AM
I find it entertaining watching people defend the slaughter of 80,000 civilians in 5 seconds.
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Post by: shockwaves on June 18, 2002, 07:32:27 AM
I find it amazing that you see it solely in that way.  It was provoked, warning was given.  Comparing it to terrorist action is insane.

Clowd, when everyone in the thread is against you, you should take a hint.
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Post by: mjps21983 on June 18, 2002, 07:33:01 AM
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Originally posted by shockwaves


The terrorist don\'t necessarily want what they have, they just have a problem with how we get it.


true.
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Post by: Fayded on June 18, 2002, 07:34:44 AM
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Originally posted by Clowd
I find it entertaining watching people defend the slaughter of 80,000 civilians in 5 seconds.



I find it entertaining watching you make an ass of yourself, now carry on.
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Post by: shockwaves on June 18, 2002, 07:38:48 AM
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Originally posted by Fayded



I find it entertaining watching you make an ass of yourself, now carry on.


The funny thing...the only other person I\'ve used the "everyone\'s against you, take a hint" arguement on is...Fayded!
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Post by: Fayded on June 18, 2002, 07:41:02 AM
But i was right, clowd is wrong. :D
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Post by: ROL Jamas on June 18, 2002, 07:41:04 AM
I\'ve also found it entertaining to watch you parade around with a name that has absolutely no meaning and act like you\'re worth something. It\'s priceless, I must say.

Futbol - GO SOUTH KOREA! THE MEXICO ITALY GROUP SUCKS!

*cough* Anyway, Clowd, you compared two totally different things and tried to act like they were the exact same thing, and that was pretty damn dumb. So basically, shut up before you hurt yourself, Clowd. You Suck.

See Yuz.
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Post by: clowd on June 18, 2002, 07:44:38 AM
What is ROL Jamas?  Right outside line backer?
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Post by: shockwaves on June 18, 2002, 07:45:24 AM
Renegade OnLine
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Post by: ROL Jamas on June 18, 2002, 07:47:45 AM
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Originally posted by Clowd
What is ROL Jamas?  Right outside line backer?


No, ****head, that\'s ROLB. You should pay more attention to your American Football. And yes, apperantly, I\'m still the ignorant one *sigh*

See Yuz.
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Post by: clowd on June 18, 2002, 07:51:20 AM
foot ball sucks, i only like the game.  actually both foot balls suck

your still the ignorant one?  who called you ignorant?  sorry if my posts offended your yankee government loving butt
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Post by: mjps21983 on June 18, 2002, 07:52:44 AM
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Originally posted by Clowd
foot ball sucks, i only like the game.  actually both foot balls suck

your still the ignorant one?  who called you ignorant?  sorry if my posts offended your yankee government loving butt



You gotta be canadian!!! either that or an american with hate for his country!!!
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Post by: shockwaves on June 18, 2002, 07:56:09 AM
Clowd, what country are you actually from?
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Post by: ROL Jamas on June 18, 2002, 07:57:08 AM
Either that or somebody too ignorant to see straight.

Oh, and if you don\'t like both Footballs, then why do you insist on replying to Football Topics?

Simply amazing. See Yuz.
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Post by: clowd on June 18, 2002, 08:15:00 AM
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Originally posted by ROL Jamas

Oh, and if you don\'t like both Footballs, then why do you insist on replying to Football Topics?
 


Post count


I am from here 39 N 22 E

Why does it matter?  I dont like any government, if I could have it my way there would be one King ruling over all 6 billion
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Post by: ROL Jamas on June 18, 2002, 08:17:26 AM
1st. That\'s pathetic.
2nd. Totalitarianism IS a form of government, it\'s called a Dictatorship.

See Yuz.
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Post by: shockwaves on June 18, 2002, 08:19:52 AM
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Originally posted by Clowd


Post count


I am from here 39 N 22 E

Why does it matter?  I dont like any government, if I could have it my way there would be one King ruling over all 6 billion


How would that be good?  Can you imagine the amount of civil rights abuses?  God, ignorance at its finest.  Dictatorships have been tried.  When the power is in one person, and not in the people, there are ALWAYS problems.
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Post by: clowd on June 18, 2002, 08:20:26 AM
So you rather have nations at war constantly?  If every one was under one government there wouldnt be any World wars

you dont want that, do you, you like it the way it is, thats fine lots of people do too
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Post by: shockwaves on June 18, 2002, 08:21:55 AM
One nation?  One dictator?  No

No nations?  That would be ideal.
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Post by: clowd on June 18, 2002, 08:24:18 AM
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Originally posted by shockwaves


Can you imagine the amount of civil rights abuses?  When the power is in one person, and not in the people, there are ALWAYS problems.


Not if someone like me was the king
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Post by: shockwaves on June 18, 2002, 08:25:27 AM
Especially if someone like you were king.
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Post by: ROL Jamas on June 18, 2002, 08:52:37 AM
No Checks and Balances. One man rules the world...it\'s like a James Bond movie or something.

Worldwide revolution would occur, and there would be nobody else to check on it, it would be chaos. But that\'s what you want, Clowd, isn\'t it? Christ.

See Yuz.
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Post by: clowd on June 18, 2002, 08:58:39 AM
one king, one government = peace
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Post by: shockwaves on June 18, 2002, 09:00:08 AM
One king, one government=oppression and chaos.  One man ruling 6 billion can\'t have time to deal with them all fairly.  There would be revolutions, abuses, chaos.  And that\'s if the ruler were trying to do a good job...
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Post by: ROL Jamas on June 18, 2002, 09:03:32 AM
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Originally posted by Clowd
one king, one government = peace


Heyyyy, remember when this was a Football thread? Hah, look what happend when your sorry ass stepped in.

I\'m officially convinced that you\'re talking out of your ass and trying to get a rise out of people. What you\'re saying is borderline insane, basically. I have no need to heed your ignorance anymore, it\'s not worth my time, and believe me, my time right now is dealing with listening to music. That\'s it.

See Yuz.
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Post by: clowd on June 18, 2002, 09:04:08 AM
revolution and chaos is what you get with democracy,  communism is the best form of government

the one king will just give his laws to others under him in the government, and they will take care of the parts of the earth.
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Post by: shockwaves on June 18, 2002, 09:12:04 AM
One man with all power will always lead to corruption.  Even if there were to be one just king, what would happen when he died?  Nothing good could come from such a system.  If you think differently, that is foolish.

Democracy leads to revolutions and chaos?  Oh, I forgot, about all those revolutions we\'ve had over here :rolleyes:

And what are you basing your ideas on communism from?  True communism has never been practiced.  True communism also strives for a system without a dictator.  Amazing little contradiction in your ideal government structure there.
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Post by: clowd on June 18, 2002, 09:16:54 AM
Revolutions and chaos, yes, how many times do i see on the news people protesting in front of you white house?  

what happens if he dies?  the way the king in the uk does it

btw, i like the way Fidel Castro runs his country, the earth needs 1 king,  and voting for the president?  absurd
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Post by: shockwaves on June 18, 2002, 09:21:00 AM
You realize the amount of civil rights abuses in England when the King had the power, right?  When the elected Parliament took power, things got better and more stable.

Protests are part of democracy.  They aren\'t chaotic most times, and they certainly aren\'t revolutions.  Protesting is a key part of the democratic system.

How is it absurd for the people do decide for themselves who should have power over them?
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Post by: clowd on June 18, 2002, 09:26:19 AM
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Originally posted by shockwaves

How is it absurd for the people do decide for themselves who should have power over them?


citizens usually vote with not much intellegence, for example, some people didnt vote for gore because of the clinton scandal, pu-lez clinton doesnt even have anything to do with gores predency hopes

you cant put the power in the hands of citizens
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Post by: ROL Jamas on June 18, 2002, 09:28:19 AM
Which is why the United States has been so entirely unsucessful in it\'s 226 years of existance. *sigh*.

See Yuz.
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Post by: shockwaves on June 18, 2002, 09:30:43 AM
People have the right to vote for the person they think should represent them.  Deciding it any other way is absurd.  The people know best what is good for them.

If you think that is such a problem, why not just provide voter education services.  They could better inform the voters of the issues.

The bottom line is, how can you say anyone should decide who rules a group of people besides the group of people being ruled?  That is what leads to revolutions.  We have peace here because if people don\'t like something, they can always vote for someone who is against it.  If the people have no say, revolutions are inevitable.
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Post by: Jar O Pickles on June 18, 2002, 10:15:01 AM
ok ill be the first one to say i wish i had my own country which i would rule with an iron fist but thats because im a power hungry narcisist and my country would suck real bad
but to say that thats a good way to rule a country is insanity i dont understand your stance on anything clowd 1 minute youre all peace love everyone\'s equal the next your sounding like a facist
hitler wanted peace too, only after he killed all who opposed him and ruled all of europe
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Post by: The Stapler on June 18, 2002, 10:29:35 AM
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Originally posted by Clowd
btw, i like the way Fidel Castro runs his country, the earth needs 1 king,  and voting for the president?  absurd


And how many people flee Cuba every year (to come where? not to another communist country, to the US)?
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Post by: Bozco on June 18, 2002, 12:40:39 PM
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Originally posted by Clowd
foot ball sucks, i only like the game.  actually both foot balls suck

your still the ignorant one?  who called you ignorant?  sorry if my posts offended your yankee government loving butt



I don\'t know if you\'ve noticed but you\'ve made a fool of yourself thoughout this thread and everybody knows it.  Your just some american hater and you don\'t even back it up.  Keep on bashing us and actually being jealous.  And the whole king thing.  Good one, like that actually would work.  Your just some un-educated fool.
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Post by: SwifDi on June 18, 2002, 01:51:25 PM
Clowd is from K-PAX.
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Post by: PSXXX on June 18, 2002, 03:37:27 PM
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Originally posted by ROL Jamas
Yes, everybody hates us, not like we\'re not used to it or anything :)

But yes, Mexico was quite flustered. Headbutts to the head while sticking your cleats into somebody isn\'t exactly fair. I just got done watching the rebroadcast...I could have very easily been 3 to 0, ya never know. We 0wn Mexico!

And who knows, with all of the yellow cards they were getting, then they got the red...maybe they were trying to combine the two INTO Green Cards! Yes, that was it!

See Yuz.


You\'ll pay 4 winning us!! (I\'m from Mexico). Now all the mexican soccer players will go to the US looking 4 a job to learn how to play soccer better. In a couple of moths instead of 20 millions mexicans in the US you will have 120:D

Congratulations! I just hope that with this victory you americans will start loving soccer and start calling it the right way:
FOOTBALL!!!!!:bounce:
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Post by: Bozco on June 18, 2002, 03:41:21 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Clowd
revolution and chaos is what you get with democracy,  communism is the best form of government

the one king will just give his laws to others under him in the government, and they will take care of the parts of the earth.


Yea, and it all works inside the head of an ignorant man.
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Post by: Faithdies on June 18, 2002, 05:47:06 PM
True uncorrupted communism IS the best form of government. Do some research instead of just following blindly what youve been told by politicians for 50 years. Unfortunately humans are too immature for a communist government, therefore it will never work.
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Post by: shockwaves on June 18, 2002, 05:50:08 PM
I agree.  Communism isn\'t the best form because people are too greedy for it to work properly.  It is the ideal form of government, but I don\'t think it could ever be implemented.

And yes, once again, true communism does not ultimately involve a dictator.
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Post by: ROL Jamas on June 18, 2002, 05:54:03 PM
Wait what? What happened to your Socialistic Ideals there, Tony? Last time I heard, you were all for a Social government, not the True Communism ideal. Last I checked, they weren\'t the same thing.

See Yuz.
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Post by: shockwaves on June 18, 2002, 05:57:33 PM
Like I said, communism is ideal, but I don\'t believe it can be implemented.  That\'s why I\'m not a communist.  Socialism is more realistic.

and on a seperate note...

POST #1000!
WOO!
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Post by: ROL Jamas on June 18, 2002, 05:59:43 PM
Meh, so much for our huge ass argument a while back.

And lord knows I\'ve had more than 1000 posts at a certain other message board, so, meh.

See Yuz.
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Post by: shockwaves on June 18, 2002, 06:01:14 PM
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Originally posted by ROL Jamas
And lord knows I\'ve had more than 1000 posts at a certain other message board, so, meh.

See Yuz.


So have I, so have I.  Man I miss it.
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Post by: videoholic on June 18, 2002, 06:25:13 PM
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Originally posted by PSXXX


You\'ll pay 4 winning us!! (I\'m from Mexico). Now all the mexican soccer players will go to the US looking 4 a job to learn how to play soccer better. In a couple of moths instead of 20 millions mexicans in the US you will have 120:D

Congratulations! I just hope that with this victory you americans will start loving soccer and start calling it the right way:
FOOTBALL!!!!!:bounce:


USA could win the whole thing and in one week not one person will give a rats patooty.
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Post by: Bozco on June 18, 2002, 06:34:18 PM
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Originally posted by Faithdies
True uncorrupted communism IS the best form of government. Do some research instead of just following blindly what youve been told by politicians for 50 years. Unfortunately humans are too immature for a communist government, therefore it will never work.



To bad with power like that it will never ever work.  Power always corrupts.
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Post by: mjps21983 on June 18, 2002, 06:48:36 PM
Socialism SUX BIG HAIRY NUT SAX, mainly because, that would not allow the cream to rise to the top it would try to even the money out, and give more to the less fortunate, which isn\'t always fair to the rich.
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Post by: shockwaves on June 18, 2002, 06:52:36 PM
I disagree.  I think what\'s unfair is less talented rich kids have a world of opportunity, where as more talented poor kids most of the time are unable to use their talents.  It is more important in this country to have money than talent, and that is sad.

A perfect example of that: Our president.  Because it was his talent that got him into Yale after having a C average in high school :rolleyes:
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Post by: Samwise on June 18, 2002, 11:45:16 PM
Quote
Originally posted by shockwaves
I disagree.  I think what\'s unfair is less talented rich kids have a world of opportunity, where as more talented poor kids most of the time are unable to use their talents.  It is more important in this country to have money than talent, and that is sad.

A perfect example of that: Our president.  Because it was his talent that got him into Yale after having a C average in high school :rolleyes:
Word dude, word. :)

I think it\'s sad when money matters more than anything else.
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Post by: Tom on June 19, 2002, 12:02:40 AM
39 N 22E? Forgive my lazyness, but could someone point out where that is?
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Post by: fastson on June 19, 2002, 12:05:52 AM
Clowd: You are from  Albania?

Yes, I took out a old map :p
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Post by: SwifDi on June 19, 2002, 12:14:20 AM
Dude, I\'ve already said, he\'s from K-PAX.
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Post by: fastson on June 19, 2002, 12:18:01 AM
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Originally posted by \\/apor Snake
Dude, I\'ve already said, he\'s from K-PAX.


K-PAX is where?
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Post by: Samwise on June 19, 2002, 12:24:15 AM
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Originally posted by fastson


K-PAX is where?
Outer Space (it\'s from the movie of the same title :)).
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Post by: fastson on June 19, 2002, 12:29:18 AM
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Originally posted by Samwise
Outer Space (it\'s from the movie of the same title :)).


Never seen or heard of it.. :sleepy:

But, the point is I managed to pin-point Clowds position.
It will be much easier for the SAS team to take him out! (Navy Seals not welcome)

Aint I 1337?
:nerd:
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Post by: Tyrant on June 19, 2002, 12:39:56 AM
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Originally posted by fastson

But, the point is I managed to pin-point Clowds position.

no you didnt you got close;), the coordinates are actually that of greece.
see now im the nerd:nerd:
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Post by: fastson on June 19, 2002, 12:46:41 AM
DOH!

Right you are.. *damn stupid map*

:crying:
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Post by: Tyrant on June 19, 2002, 01:00:33 AM
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Originally posted by fastson
DOH!

Right you are.. *damn stupid map*

:crying:

well either way the SAS team is still on its way to clowds position only difference is that they\'ll be a few minutes late.:D
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Post by: Samwise on June 19, 2002, 01:01:28 AM
Lol @ Fast!

Poor guy *gives you a piece of my cookie*

Now send those nukes to Greece!
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Post by: GmanJoe on June 19, 2002, 04:19:03 AM
Clowd reminds me of Sega Kid. But Sega Kid hated FF7 so I doubt he\'d pick a mis-spelled character\'s name. :p
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Post by: mjps21983 on June 19, 2002, 07:35:42 AM
Quote
Originally posted by shockwaves
I disagree.  I think what\'s unfair is less talented rich kids have a world of opportunity, where as more talented poor kids most of the time are unable to use their talents.  It is more important in this country to have money than talent, and that is sad.

A perfect example of that: Our president.  Because it was his talent that got him into Yale after having a C average in high school :rolleyes:


Thats not 100 percent true, the example of Bush happens in every part of the world, people who have the talent find a way to get to where they want thats the beauty of it all, if you want something bad enough it can be yours, you don\'t need lots of money to get into mit, you just have to have, mathematical equations coming out your a$$.
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Post by: GmanJoe on June 19, 2002, 07:45:37 AM
Yet....Bush Jr. got a better GPA than Al Gore\'s in their college days.

Remember.....it\'s not just the GPA that gets you into Ivy League colleges....
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Post by: shockwaves on June 19, 2002, 08:01:00 AM
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Originally posted by mjps21983


Thats not 100 percent true, the example of Bush happens in every part of the world, people who have the talent find a way to get to where they want thats the beauty of it all, if you want something bad enough it can be yours, you don\'t need lots of money to get into mit, you just have to have, mathematical equations coming out your a$$.


But let\'s say you live in an urban community with a poor schooling system, and have to work a job on top of that to help support your family, while a rich kid goes to some well known prep school and has all the free time in the world to work on things.  Is that fair?

Quote
Originally posted by GmanJoe
Yet....Bush Jr. got a better GPA than Al Gore\'s in their college days.

Remember.....it\'s not just the GPA that gets you into Ivy League colleges....


Hey, I\'m not saying that Al Gore isn\'t another example.  There are plenty of them out there.  I\'m sure being the son of a senator is worth something.
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Post by: GmanJoe on June 19, 2002, 08:57:40 AM
Back to soccer....please.

I can\'t fathom how some of you could connect the atomic bomb with World Cup Soccer!
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Post by: Tyrant on June 19, 2002, 09:07:57 AM
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Originally posted by GmanJoe
Back to soccer....please.
I can\'t fathom how some of you could connect the atomic bomb with World Cup Soccer!  
i couldnt figure it out either.

back to FOOTBALL;), the U.S team have done exceptionally well this worldcup, I cant wait to see their match with germany.
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Post by: PSXXX on June 19, 2002, 09:14:48 AM
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Originally posted by Videoholic


USA could win the whole thing and in one week not one person will give a rats patooty.


Maybe, but I was looking news from ESPN and they were really happy about it. I watch that same show every night and they only talk about Baseball, Basketball and Football, never about soccer. And now have been 3 nights in a row where they talk about USA national soccer team and they even have been inviting experts to the show to talk about USA soccer history.
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Post by: shockwaves on June 19, 2002, 09:29:38 AM
The thing about the USA is that soccer is really a once every four years sport.  We are paying attention to the world cup, and doing pretty well in it too.  We never really pay much attention to our own soccer leagues though, and never hear about them.  We\'ll get excited about this World Cup, enjoy it while it\'s happening, then forget about soccer for another four years.
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Post by: mjps21983 on June 19, 2002, 09:52:17 AM
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Originally posted by shockwaves
The thing about the USA is that soccer is really a once every four years sport.  We are paying attention to the world cup, and doing pretty well in it too.  We never really pay much attention to our own soccer leagues though, and never hear about them.  We\'ll get excited about this World Cup, enjoy it while it\'s happening, then forget about soccer for another four years.


But if we do well and beat the germans, we as a country might be a little more apt to put little jimmy in soccer league instead of basketball or football americano.
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Post by: STROKE on June 19, 2002, 10:12:05 AM
So the nazis will win against the redskins killers.
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Post by: GmanJoe on June 19, 2002, 10:16:48 AM
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Originally posted by shockwaves
The thing about the USA is that soccer is really a once every four years sport.  We are paying attention to the world cup, and doing pretty well in it too.  We never really pay much attention to our own soccer leagues though, and never hear about them.  We\'ll get excited about this World Cup, enjoy it while it\'s happening, then forget about soccer for another four years.


Here in the WashDC area, soccer is quite popular. After all, DCUnited are the two time US National Champions! :D
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Post by: PSXXX on June 19, 2002, 11:31:33 AM
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Originally posted by shockwaves
The thing about the USA is that soccer is really a once every four years sport.  We are paying attention to the world cup, and doing pretty well in it too.  We never really pay much attention to our own soccer leagues though, and never hear about them.  We\'ll get excited about this World Cup, enjoy it while it\'s happening, then forget about soccer for another four years.


The real problem with soccer in the US is that your networks doesn\'t like it. Because soccer only has one half break and doesn\'t have time outs breaks like all your sports they can put commercial breaks and because of that they don\'t make enough money as a Baseball game will do. Because of that most people doesn\'t know what soccer really is. Because once you seen it you can\'t get rid of it! I\'M SICK!!! I\'M NEED SOCCER TO LIVE!!!:D
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Post by: shockwaves on June 19, 2002, 01:23:14 PM
Actually, most kids in this country play soccer.  I think more kids than any other sport actually.  We like playing it at a young age, but we get bored watching it, and the best athletes go into other sports where they can make more money.
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Post by: square_marker on June 19, 2002, 01:28:29 PM
I played football (soccer) and still do with friends.  It can be some good fun.  Soccer is so appealing to most of the world because there is a sense of stragey invovled, it\'s just not all out attack.  I guess we (americans) just like a lot of action in our sports.
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Post by: clowd on June 20, 2002, 08:58:58 PM
I am from Greece, yeah, and the americans have a easy time noticing that at the airports,  i get pulled to the side everytime before i board a plane,  thats why i want to go back,  somewhere where im not profiled constantly,

i visit my grand mother in greece every year so, if something happens to her, i probably wont return again to greece,  im pretty much settled in the us
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Post by: Bladez on June 20, 2002, 09:15:19 PM
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Originally posted by Clowd
I am from Greece, yeah, and the americans have a easy time noticing that at the airports,  i get pulled to the side everytime before i board a plane,  thats why i want to go back,  somewhere where im not profiled constantly,

i visit my grand mother in greece every year so, if something happens to her, i probably wont return again to greece,  im pretty much settled in the us


Umm.  Okay.:sconf:

Does he smoke weed?:confused:
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Post by: Tom on June 20, 2002, 11:44:59 PM
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Originally posted by Clowd
I am from Greece, yeah, and the americans have a easy time noticing that at the airports,  i get pulled to the side everytime before i board a plane,  thats why i want to go back,  somewhere where im not profiled constantly,

i visit my grand mother in greece every year so, if something happens to her, i probably wont return again to greece,  im pretty much settled in the us


So you LIVE in the U.S., right? If you went to Greece to visit your grandmother? :confused:
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Post by: shockwaves on June 21, 2002, 04:49:29 AM
You know, I\'ve been pulled aside in airports multiple times myself.  It isn\'t like it\'s just you.
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Post by: clowd on June 21, 2002, 07:17:04 AM
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Originally posted by Tom G


So you LIVE in the U.S., right? If you went to Greece to visit your grandmother? :confused:


Yes, I live in the U.S.
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Post by: videoholic on June 21, 2002, 07:19:41 AM
I\'m glad you are profiled constantly.  I saw numerous people getting pulled aside last time I flew to LA.  Good.  I\'m glad.  If you don\'t like it then by all means go live in Greece where everything is much better.

Do they still poop in a hole on the floor in Greece?
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Post by: clowd on June 21, 2002, 07:39:13 AM
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Originally posted by Videoholic
I\'m glad you are profiled constantly.  I saw numerous people getting pulled aside last time I flew to LA.  Good.  I\'m glad.  


If pulling aside all the foreign looking people makes you feel better, safer, remember 1995, murrah federal building,  everyone was saying it was someone from an arib country, until they showed him, it was like the anglo americans they were looking into a mirror
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Post by: mjps21983 on June 21, 2002, 08:15:20 AM
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Originally posted by shockwaves
You know, I\'ve been pulled aside in airports multiple times myself.  It isn\'t like it\'s just you.


same here, so clowd if you dont like our country get the f*ck out, things are done for your safety so if you don\'t like going on the airplane cuz u get checked get a f*cking boat and row your happy ass over there.
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Post by: clowd on June 21, 2002, 08:19:21 AM
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Originally posted by mjps21983


same here, so clowd if you dont like our country get the f*ck out, things are done for your safety so if you don\'t like going on the airplane cuz u get checked get a f*cking boat and row your happy ass over there.


I dont like being checked not because its an incovience, but they check me because of how I look, how my name is spelled etc, and they do it at every airport
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Post by: shockwaves on June 21, 2002, 09:38:48 AM
Either that, or you have some sort of irrational belief that everyone is out to discriminate against you.

The fact is, I have flown 4 times since 9/11, and been pulled over 3 times.  This despite the fact that I\'m as white as they come.  Ever consider the idea that maybe it\'s random?  Did they tell you they were checking you because of your race?  If not, then how is it any different for you to assume that they\'re racist than it is for them to assume you\'re dangerous?
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Post by: clowd on June 21, 2002, 09:48:49 AM
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Originally posted by shockwaves


Ever consider the idea that maybe it\'s random?  Did they tell you they were checking you because of your race?  


There were 150 anglo americans on the plane and 8 minorities.

3 anglo americans get pulled aside along with 5 minorities.

Think about that.

That happened at both airports
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Post by: shockwaves on June 21, 2002, 09:54:00 AM
Coincidence.  And only two flights?  Even more likely that it was coincidence.  I was pulled aside on my first three.  Besides, I have seen nothing in my experience that would seem at all like what you\'re accusing them of.  That means, even if you are correct about what was happening, it was the fault of the workers, not the system.  You can\'t blame our country for a subconciously racist person soon after something like what happened on 9/11.
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Post by: nO-One on June 21, 2002, 12:13:11 PM
Here\'s something for you guys to read
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/sports/134478373_kell20.html
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Post by: PSXXX on June 21, 2002, 03:44:50 PM
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Originally posted by nO-One
Here\'s something for you guys to read
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/sports/134478373_kell20.html


I love this article. There\'s not better sports than soccer thanks to the World Cup!

By the way. How a 2-0 victory of the US over Mexico turns into be pulling aside in an airport? ANOTHER AMAZING THING SOCCER CAN DO!!:D.
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Post by: Mr. Kennedy on June 21, 2002, 08:17:07 PM
ugg looks like USA\'s luck ran out against the damn germans.