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Playstation/Gaming Discussions => Gaming Discussion => Topic started by: rage_42 on June 22, 2002, 03:16:10 AM
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why is it when i go to any retail store they pushing x box down my throat I was in best buy cashier trying to sella customer a xbox saying things like see the graphics see how pretty it looks
the customers ask about the ps 2 the cashier says oh that thing is not really that good lol i had to say well its a choice thingx box has great potential but no games yet ps 2 is inferior hardware wise but has a huge library the cashier was pissed lol she booted up the x box again and the dam thing crashed so tell me are the stores pushing x box because its better or is bill trying to get a bigger user base before that dam thing crashes i would buy one if they had some good software and made a decent controller electronic boutiques employees are doinf the same thing hmmm bill what you doing you tring to ram that black box down our throats lol
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i dont know im not sure it could be because bill gates is rich and he personally goes to every store and bribes every cashier to sell the xbox but im not sure about that because bill gates is a nice guy and he might just want to sell the xbox without cheating so maybe you wont see as much bribery now that the xbox has a lot of games worth buying that will sell the system and my butt is itchy lol
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they\'re trying to make up thier profit margins they\'ve been losing on xbox, especially after the price drop
everytime i go into the best buy in my area, they have a huge stack of them as soon as you walk in [wonder why its a huge perfectly formed stack with none missing :rolleyes:]
but yet i see people will NGC\'s and PS2\'s under thier arms or in thier carts at checkout
and like i said last week, there was NO mention of anything xbox in last weeks sunday paper ads (best buy, circuit city, toys r us). im curious if there will be any this week. i\'ll find out in a few hours when the paperboy gets his lazy arse out of bed
EB employee\'s [the ignorant goats that they are] will push what they are told to, cause thier reps get rewards
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Originally posted by rage_42
why is it when i go to any retail store they pushing x box down my throat I was in best buy cashier trying to sella customer a xbox saying things like see the graphics see how pretty it looks
the customers ask about the ps 2 the cashier says oh that thing is not really that good lol i had to say well its a choice thingx box has great potential but no games yet ps 2 is inferior hardware wise but has a huge library the cashier was pissed lol she booted up the x box again and the dam thing crashed so tell me are the stores pushing x box because its better or is bill trying to get a bigger user base before that dam thing crashes i would buy one if they had some good software and made a decent controller electronic boutiques employees are doinf the same thing hmmm bill what you doing you tring to ram that black box down our throats lol
ever heard of sentence structure?
I haven\'t really experienced an extreme either way. Sometimes I hear Xbox, sometimes PS2...never GC*snickers.
Anyway, what\'s this about Xbox crashing? I haven\'t experienced anything or heard about any problems...
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For some reason the store i go to has a design using about a 100 XBoxes, yet that design hasn\'t changed in two weeks, maybe on gone or something.
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Hmm...
That is a shame, I would really hate it to die so early. It has an ass load of potential. It would be the first time a reasonably priced system with more power just died, becuase of lack of games. What a shame, this better not effect the release of Deus Ex 2 er I start da killings.
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We have stacks of XBox and PS2 at my store, but with PS2, we only get shipments about once a month. XBox we get them about once a week, keeping the stack around the same. PS2 will kill the stack, come back in and be stacked again.
Gamecubes we hardly ever get in (perhaps because we hardly sell them) and we always have just enough to fit on the shelf.
In sales it usually is PS2, XBox with about 2/5\'2 of PS2 and GC with about 2/5\'s of Xbox.
Eric Jacob
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THE REAL PROBLEM IS THE GAMING INDUSTRY THINKS THERE IN A HIGHLANDER MOVIE THERE CAN ONLY BE ONE LOL
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Anecdotal evidence means nothing.
I was in a Toys R Us today and no one was there buying a system. I guess it\'s the end of gaming this time around. :rolleyes:
Ace
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Well put Ace.
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I just want to say that MS sent about every store that sells x box this \'manual\' on how to sell x box.
Maybe its the source of the pushing?
Anyways its not helping them because like the one billy gun said. I myself have seen this. 1 week after the x box launch and all the ps2\'s are sold out, but the store is bunched with x boxes
and to this day i see the same thing with x box, even the gc (yes they resupplied ps2s)
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Nothing wrong with teaching the stores that will sell your product how to do it the right way.
Ace
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Originally posted by Ace
Nothing wrong with teaching the stores that will sell your product how to do it the right way.
Ace
right way = pushing?
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Hmm. lets see, I have a product that I want to sell in a number of stores. Do I want my product pushed? Yes, I want my product pushed out the door.
Now if we are saying that I want the stores not tell the truth about my product to make sales, then I would have a problem. My product will be returned and sales will be lost.
It happens in all departments. I work in video and I sometimes hear the most ridiculous information being spewed by sales people.
Buyer beware!
Ace
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No little \'manual\' was sent to Best Buy, where do you get this stuff clowd? Remember, great arguments are built on facts, not lies.
I don\'t push any console at my store, but after finishing describing what comes with each of the systems, customers unwittingly will buy XBox because it is most powerful, you don\'t need memory cards, you don\'t need a multitap, and you can watch DVDs on it if you wanna spend 30 bucks on it. If it was always about the games, PS2 would be the only thing to leave the store. We sell alot of XBoxs to people who have played Halo or Project Gotham at a friends house. Word of Mouth is a better selling force than any "brainwashing" that MS could do.
XBox seems to be pushed by all the non-media employees in my store. It seems like everyday one of the CarFi or Audio guys tell me they sold an XBox for me. These guys LOVE WSB, Halo, and Moto GP. All they ever talk about when talking about XBox is those games. You get employees on peoples\' positive sides by providing great experiences and they will sell more of your systems, it is a natural process :)
Eric Jacob
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I dunno, Ive seen a manual at Toys r us and wal mart. Im sure if they got a manual everyone else does.
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hahahaha, you mean that 50 reasons to own XBox thing? For such a secretive manual, you would think they would be foolish to give them out to customers! hahahaha.
If you actually looked in that flyer you would realise it is highly untrivial. Basically they tell of the hardware, developers, etc. In a highly joking manner (I actually had a Nintendo fan get MAD by the flyer, LOL!) and they sum it up by saying that the games is all that matters.
Everything isn\'t all black and white, you know. If MS was paying retailers and everyone else to buy their console, wouldn\'t XBox be selling more systems instead of selling LESS than Nintendo last month?
Eric Jacob
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yeah, Ps2 sells more than gamecube + xbox, and gamecube sells more than xbox
i dont understand why a dev would want to be xbox exclusive anymore
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Is 50 reasons to own a x box the same as this spiral type manual that has written on it: How to sell the x box.
Are these the same things? I just want to confirm
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If this "black book" does exist it\'s not uncommon for a company to send out info on how to sell their products.
Ace
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X-Box crashing??? Never heard of it, but real evidence of PS2 refusing to read disc are as common as McDonald. And I have one of them lousy burgers.
As for the games, the PS2 is currently churning out more junk then PS1 in it\'s heyday.
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paul, you missed the memo about the japanese MAJOR retailers flat out [/b]refusing to sell xbox\'s cause of faulty hardware?
no wonder they were down to 800 units sold in a week
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yes, mm, but that was a launch problem, and even then could be attributed to user error (as MS was never able to assess the reason for XBoxs scratching disks. And that was also in a country where none of us live. If there was a problem, MS took the time to fix it. Sony just keeps sending out those shoddy PS2s. Pretty soon they are gonna have to start making "Upside-Down Horizontal Stands" LOL!!
Eric Jacob
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yeah, theyre gonna have to make 35 million of em
*snicker*
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Hell..I seriously doubt I\'ll be buying another SONY console after the all the problems I\'ve faced. There\'s no point in buying a console that refuse to work properly!!
anyway, I think SEGA makes the BEST console in the business(in terms of manufacturing quality). My saturn only has a problem once which I\'ve fixed easily by tuning the machine. The DC never gives problem...(but then, it never get much usage before it died).
Maybe SEGA should stop making software and instead license as a manufacturer for SONY and MS and the whole freaking world will be a much better place with less dodgy consoles.
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Originally posted by Paul
Hell..I seriously doubt I\'ll be buying another SONY console after the all the problems I\'ve faced. There\'s no point in buying a console that refuse to work properly!!
anyway, I think SEGA makes the BEST console in the business(in terms of manufacturing quality). My saturn only has a problem once which I\'ve fixed easily by tuning the machine. The DC never gives problem...(but then, it never get much usage before it died).
Maybe SEGA should stop making software and instead license as a manufacturer for SONY and MS and the whole freaking world will be a much better place with less dodgy consoles.
My system works perfectly. I must admit that sometimes my PS2 just suddenly refuses to work but, after a few love pokes, it works just fine. :)
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SR: ur lucky. But don\'t worry...the time will come soon when your PS2 absolutely refuse to work!! Muaahaaaaahaaaaahaaaaa!!!!
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owned an original PSX, yes, the boxy grey one, never had to send it back.
owned an original PS2, yes, the black one w/ PS2 written on the base of it, never had to send it back.
Sony reliability = good = me supporting them
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Originally posted by Paul
SR: ur lucky. But don\'t worry...the time will come soon when your PS2 absolutely refuse to work!! Muaahaaaaahaaaaahaaaaa!!!!
Yea, that\'s like, what, in 5 -6 years? :)
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SR: don\'t get too cocky, pal. You just might be NEXT on SONY\'s list of 35million potential victims...sooner than u think. Hee-hee.
After all, that\'s how they sell millions of it. LOL.
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What goes around, comes around...especially dodgy SONY consoles.
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My cousin got an X-Box pushed on him whilst buying a PS2 this weekend. The seller was very very pushy and has nothing good at all to say about PS2. We got out of there pretty quick but I still find it annoying. Not that I dont appreciate advice but she was so one sided it isn\'t even funny!
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Its ok they are doing it over here in the UK too....
What with the PEE PEE POOR European Performance and the Piss Poor Japanese Performance, i wont be suprised if the X box will soon be selling its "stuff" like some Cheap $2 Hooker.
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Originally posted by Speed Demon
My cousin got an X-Box pushed on him whilst buying a PS2 this weekend. The seller was very very pushy and has nothing good at all to say about PS2. We got out of there pretty quick but I still find it annoying. Not that I dont appreciate advice but she was so one sided it isn\'t even funny!
They\'re trying to sell the 49,999 XBOXES that were left from the 50,000 they ordered for launch. OUCH.
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well ive never had a problem with my ps2, and sega sucks man, i dont like it at all but you do have a point they should stop makin software
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im with the one billy gunn on this one
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well ive never had a problem with my ps2, and sega sucks man, i dont like it at all but you do have a point they should stop makin software
Who? Sega?! Nobody said they should stop making software...
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Originally posted by Paul
SR: don\'t get too cocky, pal. You just might be NEXT on SONY\'s list of 35million potential victims...sooner than u think. Hee-hee.
After all, that\'s how they sell millions of it. LOL.
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What goes around, comes around...especially dodgy SONY consoles.
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Did you ever consider the fact that more PS2 than xbox users reporting problems with their consoles is due to the fact that there are more PS2s than xboxs out there. Let\'s say 10% of all users of both consoles report problems with their console,(Perhaps a bit high, but just for the sake of argument) what does that give us?
3 million xbox=300,000 faulty consoles
30 million PS2=3,000,000 faulty consoles
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Paul never compared it to Xboxs problems (at least not in his post.)
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Originally posted by Paul
X-Box crashing??? Never heard of it, but real evidence of PS2 refusing to read disc are as common as McDonald. And I have one of them lousy burgers.
As for the games, the PS2 is currently churning out more junk then PS1 in it\'s heyday.
Um... Yes he did.
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Just quoted the wrong post.
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Okay.
BTW, theres an edit button.
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Oh.... stupid me.
(Does the word duh fit here?)
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we\'ve got two newbie spammers on the loose.
one writes about anythign, while other just agrees w/ everyone
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and we\'ve got one superhero spammer on the loose. But back to the topic, i\'ve never been pressured to buy the xbox. Guess cause I don\'t ask any questions and just tell them what game I want. I guess it matters what store you do your purchasing at (mostly Wal-Mart for me, those people really don\'t give a f**k what they sell).
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and we\'ve got one superhero spammer on the loose.
waiting for someone to point that out :D
Babbages is the only place I\'ve seen pushy salesmen...EB, Gamestop, and Game Fellas are pretty laid back.
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Why is the PS2 so poorly constructed. It\'s of cheap quality, and don\'t get me started on the DVD player, It stinks!:( Don\'t get me wrong, I love my PS2, it\'s got a great library of games, but it\'s got alot of mediocre, and crap as well.
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As opposed to..?
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Originally posted by Zolar
Why is the PS2 so poorly constructed. It\'s of cheap quality, and don\'t get me started on the DVD player, It stinks!:( Don\'t get me wrong, I love my PS2, it\'s got a great library of games, but it\'s got alot of mediocre, and crap as well.
I agree, but I think all these systems are made cheaply. I\'ve always wanted a system that was made more like my A/V equipment. I guess that\'s just not going to happen. I would be more than willing to pay a little extra.
Ace
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AS far as Best Buy pushing the Xbox. BBY pays less for each Xbox console than they do for a PS2. Not much of a difference; but its still cheaper nonetheless. Therefore if you buy more accessories with an Xbox BBY makes more money as opposed to a PS2.
Thats why if you try to buy a printer 9 times out of 10 they will tell you to get a Lexmark.
I have worked at BBY off and on for 2 years so I am not speculating here either.
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My PS1 still works fine, and I got it on the systems launch. My PS2 works perfect, but I hear all the horror stories on this forum about problems. One dude even said he put his system in his freezer hoping his games would play!
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Paul you simply wrong
I had a Sega Dreamcast, bought store extended warranty (thank god). The thing stopped reading games about 3 months into it. I never did anything stupid to it, it just sat there. So Sega reliability is questionable.
Xbox has as many problems if not more than PS2. I know one person who went through 2 PS2 in like a year but then he dont tream them too well. I have a used PS2 bought 2 months ago, it\'s fine. I know ppl whose Xbox gave no problems and I know some with horror stories like the thing breaking completely right after 3 months. My friend\'s starting being wacky with game/DVD discs within a week and is labeled Crap Box by him.
GameCube has a 1 year warranty. Nuff said.
BTW Xbox chip is a piece of crap. Do some research on it and see how much of a BS marketing scheme that is.
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Originally posted by smoke\'emtrees
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BTW Xbox chip is a piece of crap. Do some research on it and see how much of a BS marketing scheme that is.
Well, if you know so much, why not enlighten us on the subject?
(Tom feels ill for defending the X-Box) :crap:
EDIT: I read your other post in "Flaws of the PS2" , so there\'s no need to explain it again. :snore:
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Good thing you read. BTW the same marketing scheme is used all the time as most ppl just look at the "big" numbers without considering what they mean.
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Cant the PS2 do something like 2 x more floating point calculations then the x box?
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I don\'t feel like reading through the pages but maybe someone else has said this.
THEY ARE TRYING TO GET RID OF THE SURPLUS X-BOXES.