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Non Gaming Discussions => Off-Topic => Topic started by: Bossieman on June 23, 2002, 12:00:18 PM

Title: Here it is!! Part II
Post by: Bossieman on June 23, 2002, 12:00:18 PM
I start.

First I want to know, what kind of proof is there that there is no evolution?
what proof is there that there is a God?
What is it that makes people hate the thought that we are close to apes and monkeys?

I find more.
Title: Here it is!! Part II
Post by: Samwise on June 23, 2002, 12:03:48 PM
Just want to point something out. Some times people mistaken say/think that we come from the apes. That is not true. We just share a common ancestor (sp).
Title: Here it is!! Part II
Post by: Heat on June 23, 2002, 12:05:47 PM
Fact1:


My crap smells of beef. What?, it\'s a fact, a little off topic I guess.
Title: Here it is!! Part II
Post by: clowd on June 23, 2002, 12:06:16 PM
The first of many

Lightning in the primitive atmosphere was constant. If Miller left lightning on the amino acids they would have been killed, but he turned it off. Evolution states the aminio acids were created in the clouds, and fell to the ocean and formed in the primitive ocean, (which favors DEpolymerization)
Title: Here it is!! Part II
Post by: Heat on June 23, 2002, 12:07:24 PM
Examples of God\'s supernatural intervention are such as: Parting the Red Sea, allowing a virgin to conceive, saying that he will flood the whole earth, then doing it; predicting events in the future with 100% accuracy; incarnating himself as a man, allowing his body to be killed and buried, then raising himself up from the dead after three days. Multiple witnesses have seen these things happen and heard the Creator speak and have written them down as reliable testimony which we can now refer back to. Such events are not considered natural phenomena, and so by definition fall outside the realm of scientific inquiry.
Title: Here it is!! Part II
Post by: clowd on June 23, 2002, 12:08:59 PM
Archeaoligists have found the remains of chairots and chariot wheels in the red sea.
Title: Here it is!! Part II
Post by: clowd on June 23, 2002, 12:10:58 PM
The earth hangs upon nothing - Job 26:7

The earth is a circle - Isaiah 40:22
Title: Here it is!! Part II
Post by: Heat on June 23, 2002, 12:15:57 PM
This has got really boring really fast................. so who like pie?
Title: Here it is!! Part II
Post by: luckee on June 23, 2002, 12:16:34 PM
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Originally posted by Clowd
Archeaoligists have found the remains of chairots and chariot wheels in the red sea.


That doesnt mean jack. They could have been on some sort of sea farring vessel which sank.

Also as I stated before, back then, they could have associated low tide with the parting. No one knows how low the low tide would be. Maybe those soldiers thought they could get through b/c it was only 2 feet deep..hence the chariots tried and got stuck in the mud..high tide came and killed them all.
Title: Here it is!! Part II
Post by: clowd on June 23, 2002, 12:18:36 PM
Remember everything I am posting is fact.

No incomplete skeletons have been found.
Title: Re: Here it is!! Part II
Post by: clowd on June 23, 2002, 12:21:41 PM
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Originally posted by Bossieman



 Lefthanded/righthanded.

When we create aminoacid in laboratory we get 50% left and 50 % right handed. The thing is that nature almost all the time uses lefthanded aminoacid instead of righthanded. This is a bit of a mystery why nature choose left before righthanded.
There is several theories about why it is like this. The one I belive is the most correct one is that life (aminoacid) came to earth from space. when we have study meteors that have hit Earth we find on them that there is more lefthanded Aminoacid than righthanded. this "could prove" that life came to earth from space.
If life came to earth from a meteor there is even more interesting theories, like pulsars "killing" righthanded aminoacides. Well Samwise you have to study it more closelly to understand it but it is damn interesting.
i hope I have help you out.
Title: Here it is!! Part II
Post by: Bossieman on June 23, 2002, 12:21:44 PM
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Originally posted by Clowd
The earth hangs upon nothing - Job 26:7

 


That is not proof! That is comon sence, no one have ever thought that earth is hanging in a rope or something.

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The earth is a circle - Isaiah 40:22


I have checked this up and some people translate it to sphere some to circle but what it was initially meant is not proven yet.

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Lightning in the primitive atmosphere was constant


That is something you must have missunderstood, lighting is not constant and have never been. Maybe its something we are missunderstanding here but I am quit sure that if we create aminoacid and then hit it with light it could break, but it is very unlikely that the lightning hits the very same spot on the planet.


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Just want to point something out. Some times people mistaken say/think that we come from the apes. That is
not true. We just share a common ancestor (sp).


I do belive that everyone knows that but its good that you point it out, you should never take anything for granted.
Title: Here it is!! Part II
Post by: Fayded on June 23, 2002, 12:22:15 PM
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Originally posted by Clowd
Remember everything I am posting is fact.

No incomplete skeletons have been found.



God, I\'ve had enough of you and your "facts." Were you around back then to know everything is a fact?


I am beginning to wonder if you are doing this just to get a rise out of people...
Title: Here it is!! Part II
Post by: clowd on June 23, 2002, 12:23:57 PM
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Originally posted by Fayded



God, I\'ve had enough of you and your "facts." Were you around back then to know everything is a fact?


I am beginning to wonder if you are doing this just to get a rise out of people...


Fayeded do us all a favor and dont post in this thread.
Title: Here it is!! Part II
Post by: clowd on June 23, 2002, 12:26:09 PM
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Originally posted by Bossieman
I have checked this up and some people translate it to sphere some to circle but what it was initially meant is not proven yet.

That is something you must have missunderstood, lighting is not constant and have never been. Maybe its something we are missunderstanding here but I am quit sure that if we create aminoacid and then hit it with light it could break, but it is very unlikely that the lightning hits the very same spot on the planet.

 


sphere and circle imo are the same thing.  The scripture says God is seated above the circle of the earth.

Im talking about lightning in the primitive atmosphere,  from what I heard it was constant
Title: Here it is!! Part II
Post by: Fayded on June 23, 2002, 12:27:03 PM
I\'m not gonna get into the argument, being as I don\'t care how we got here, we\'re here, why worry about why we are. But, I am going to read it.

Why is it that everytime i say something to you, you respond with something along the lines of "Don\'t annoy me" or "don\'t get involved"?
Title: Here it is!! Part II
Post by: clowd on June 23, 2002, 12:31:14 PM
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Originally posted by Fayded
I\'m not gonna get into the argument, being as I don\'t care how we got here, we\'re here, why worry about why we are. But, I am going to read it.

Why is it that everytime i say something to you, you respond with something along the lines of "Don\'t annoy me" or "don\'t get involved"?


Because your comments are meaningless and spam.  You are doing nothing to help the topic.
Title: Here it is!! Part II
Post by: luckee on June 23, 2002, 12:31:14 PM
Here is something for you clowd. If god created all, how come he only created life on earth..why not mercury,venus, or mars.


Science guys..please dont say anything just yet..I wanna see how he weasils out of this one.
Title: Here it is!! Part II
Post by: Heat on June 23, 2002, 12:32:30 PM
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Originally posted by Fayded
I\'m not gonna get into the argument, being as I don\'t care how we got here, we\'re here, why worry about why we are. But, I am going to read it.

Why is it that everytime i say something to you, you respond with something along the lines of "Don\'t annoy me" or "don\'t get involved"?


Best post in this thread, you should be proud
Title: Here it is!! Part II
Post by: luckee on June 23, 2002, 12:32:44 PM
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Originally posted by Clowd
Remember everything I am posting is fact.

No incomplete skeletons have been found.


Someone else already said otherwise..try again. You have posted 1 fact that doesnt necessarily support an argument against creation..try again.
Title: Here it is!! Part II
Post by: Fayded on June 23, 2002, 12:36:27 PM
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Originally posted by Clowd


Because your comments are meaningless and spam.  You are doing nothing to help the topic.


Spam? Last time i checked spam meant someone was posting something that had no meaning. Mine had a meaning. They both pointed out something. Just because it was directed towards you doesn\'t mean it\'s "meaningless and spam."


And Heat, I am proud :D
Title: Here it is!! Part II
Post by: clowd on June 23, 2002, 12:37:31 PM
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Originally posted by luckee
Here is something for you clowd. If god created all, how come he only created life on earth..why not mercury,venus, or mars.


Science guys..please dont say anything just yet..I wanna see how he weasils out of this one.


Please dont post questions like this,  they just make for argument.  Post facts like most of you said you would.  

Keep in mind God isnt a human.  Once you start thinking that he is one,  you get confused.


To show you his power.  If you were just on earth and looked up in the sky,  you wouldnt be humble.  If you look up in the sky and see a universe containing quadrillions of stars,  you see the power of your creator, which humbles you.

If there werent animals larger then humans on earth,  the human ego would  be even bigger.
Title: Here it is!! Part II
Post by: clowd on June 23, 2002, 12:39:10 PM
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Originally posted by luckee


Someone else already said otherwise..try again.


Post the fact that says otherwise, please.  That is what this topic is for.
Title: Here it is!! Part II
Post by: Kimahri on June 23, 2002, 12:43:04 PM
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Originally posted by Clowd
Remember everything I am posting is fact.

No incomplete skeletons have been found.


How about living ones?

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this is a prime example of a fish that is in the middle of its evolution into a water animal to a land animal.
Title: Here it is!! Part II
Post by: Samwise on June 23, 2002, 12:43:28 PM
I have an idea. I\'ll close this thread.

BUT before anyone starts whining - you can make a new thread on _one_ condition. EVERYTHING you say has to be backed up by some source - which would most probably be an URL to a website in this case. I think this is a fair request, that all \'evidence\' is supported by someone else but yourself.

Thank you.

PS. I\'ll delete any post in the new thread that states something without anything to back it up. Have a nice day.