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Non Gaming Discussions => Off-Topic => Topic started by: GmanJoe on June 24, 2002, 04:35:35 AM
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http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/soccer/world/2002/world_cup/news/2002/06/22/marcotti_22/
:D
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SHAMEFUL
PS: I don\'t know who is the journalist, but he should learn a little more about players before writing an article.
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Adan, it\'s what they do here...they don\'t know 90% of what they\'re talking about...they\'ll watch one soccer match and feel the right to write an article about how they feel about it, and somehow try to explain how they\'re smarter than everybody.
Happens in all sports, writers trying to spew their mouths about Hockey when they don\'t even know 70% of the rules of the game. It\'s pretty pathetic, so I usually avoid SI, ESPN the Magazine basically kicks SI\'s ass :)
See Yuz.
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Adan, I know you are pissed about this and all but let it die.
It\'s a waste of time. I prefer to talk about videogames now that is all finished.
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Originally posted by Falgarok
I know someone that will love this thread...
/me waits until Adan appears :)
Look up.
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Originally posted by Falgarok
I know someone that will love this thread...
/me waits until Adan appears :)
Falgarok, what do you smoke? I posted before you :D
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I wasn\'t paying attention.
Edited now :)
PS: Look up, Adan.
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Yes I know, my cantabrian friend :D But if I see this thread and I don\'t reply... I might would die.
The referee: "I\'m proud of what I did". CARADURA.
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Originally posted by Adan
SHAMEFUL
PS: I don\'t know who is the journalist, but he should learn a little more about players before writing an article.
Don\'t worry Adan! Everybody that saw the game know\'s what really happened. You must understand that if money can make decide who will win a game in can also make a journalist to write whatever a person want\'s :(
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Originally posted by PSXXX
Don\'t worry Adan! Everybody that saw the game know\'s what really happened. You must understand that if money can make decide who will win a game in can also make a journalist to write whatever a person want\'s :(
"Sad but true". Metallica
Although I think that journalist wasn\'t paid, he\'s an ignorant indeed.
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I thought the author was more sympathetic towards the Spanish team. But anyway....Korea....who would have guessed?
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Originally posted by GmanJoe
I thought the author was more sympathetic towards the Spanish team. But anyway....Korea....who would have guessed?
That wouldn\'t be the correct question, it would be: who did know? OK, Korean Federation for sure... they may have been spent so much money for referees and FIFA.
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Haha, you are really hell-bent on this, Adan, aren\'t you? Man, you guys did get robbed bigtime, but all the more reason for Spain to beat the hell out of SK in any chance that it gets in any friendly\'s or 2006, eh? :)
Anyway, Go Germany! See Yuz.
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Originally posted by Adan
Yes I know, my cantabrian friend :D
You know you\'re gonna DIE now.
Now that\'s a shame, isn\'t it? :D
And go South Korea!! ;)
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Yes, I am mate.
We don\'t have to prove anything ROL Jamas. We\'ve came back to Spain without loosing a match. We haven\'t been eliminated by Korea, the money did. Of course, the next match must be won by Germany, for sure.
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And if it isn\'t, and the refs "screw up" yet again...somebody\'s goona die, Rah!
See Yuz.
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Originally posted by Falgarok
And go South Korea!! ;)
You\'ve smocked something, Falga. Why I don\'t know, but you did for sure.
ROL Jamas, if Germany looses with another referee scandal... Blatter will have to resign.
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Refs don\'t decide games, players do :rolleyes:
Man, I\'m starting to get sick of this world cup thing. More whining about the Refs than the NBA. And that\'s really saying something. :o
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Sorry shockwaves, but my anger can\'t be easily forgotten. Understand me...
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Yeah, I know. I\'ve been there, trust me. That\'s basically just my way of looking at things...during cooler times.
It\'s nothing personal or anything. I just see how clubs are going to court over blown calls...that\'s taking it way too far. Reffing is a lot harder than it looks sometimes.
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Originally posted by shockwaves
Reffing is a lot harder than it looks sometimes.
I agree absolutely buddy. But many clear mistakes, in many matches, and in favour of the same team... it smells bad... isn\'t it?
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Let\'s put it this way: If I didn\'t defend Sacramento after game 6 of the western conference finals this year, I\'m not going to defend Italy or Spain against South Korea. There were far more horrible calls in that game. The plays were close that were called incorrectly. Something like a soccer match is hard for the Refs to fix. Oh well, whatever. I still think it was just coincidence. I\'ve seen much worse (once again, Ray Jones Jr. in the \'88 Olympics)
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I didn\'t see that basketball match... I don\'t realy follow basketball, but I heard something about the referee...
I also thought with the first mistakes that it was only coincidence... but after finishing the match... nobody could accept that.
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Yeah, I know you prolly wouldn\'t have followed basketball. Just an example. Anyway, I saw the Spain-South Korea match. I thought that both calls were actually kind of close. Sure, when you look at replays, from good angles, often in slow motion, it is easy to make a call. When you are the actual ref though, making call after call in real time, with no replays, from all sorts of angles, you\'re bound to miss a few. This was just the way things fell in this match I guess. I could see how someone could make the mistakes the refs did on all the blown calls in that game.
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You sure friend? Ok, I respect you.
They should use movie players to see replays. I believe that there\'s something like this in any sport in USA, I heard about it, bot not sure, am I right?
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Yeah, they recently added in an instant replay in our football league (american football...woo!). Each team can challenge calls that they feel were made incorrectly, and the refs review the plays on a television screen. It has actually worked well so far. Perhaps something like this should be used in soccer too.
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Yeah, and aren\'t they thinking about adding it to the NBA. For buzzer beater shots or something. I heard they were talking about it, haven\'t heard anything about it since.
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That\'s absolutelly great. I wonder when the hell FIFA will let us to implement a system like that. COOL!
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They were discussing it for the last play of a quarter. They also do have limited instant replay for hockey.
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But shockwaves... in your football, can the referees watch the replay all the time? Or have the teams a number of chances?
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They have something like 2 or 3 chances a game. If they challenge a play, and the call made on the field stands, the team that challenged it loses a timeout. They do this to keep the flow of the game going, and to limit the breaks in the game that replay cause.
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I dunno, every sports channel, writer says spain was robbed.
I do agree soccer needs instant replay.
In a low scoring game like soccer, 1 and in this case 2 goals can make a big difference.
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Originally posted by Clowd
I dunno, every sports channel, writer says spain was robbed.
I do agree soccer needs instant replay.
In a low scoring game like soccer, 1 and in this case 2 goals can make a big difference.
I\'m actually not sure that either would have definitely been a goal...
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Originally posted by Clowd
I dunno, every sports channel, writer says spain was robbed.
I do agree soccer needs instant replay.
In a low scoring game like soccer, 1 and in this case 2 goals can make a big difference.
Incredible! I agree with you Clowd!! :D
Thanx for the info shockwaves ;)
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Originally posted by shockwaves
They have something like 2 or 3 chances a game. If they challenge a play, and the call made on the field stands, the team that challenged it loses a timeout. They do this to keep the flow of the game going, and to limit the breaks in the game that replay cause.
And the refs still **** up the calls half the time even WITH Instant Replay in the NFL, it gets kind of pathetic after a while. *cough* Patriots Raiders *cough*. Yes, I think my point has been established.
Instant Replay in Soccer might not be bad, but being that the clock never stops, and say you had 2 or 3 challenges in a half, that would be in upwards of about 15 minutes of stopage time, which would be pretty insane.
See Yuz.
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Originally posted by ROL Jamas
And the refs still **** up the calls half the time even WITH Instant Replay in the NFL, it gets kind of pathetic after a while. *cough* Patriots Raiders *cough*. Yes, I think my point has been established.
Instant Replay in Soccer might not be bad, but being that the clock never stops, and say you had 2 or 3 challenges in a half, that would be in upwards of about 15 minutes of stopage time, which would be pretty insane.
See Yuz.
The Pats Raiders call was the right one. It was a bad rule, not a bad call. Overall, instant replay has been very effective, and done much more good than harm.
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Originally posted by Adan
That\'s absolutelly great. I wonder when the hell FIFA will let us to implement a system like that. COOL!
Doubt it, Sepp Blatter\'s an arsehole.
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Yes, becuase everybody knows the call during the Browns Jags game in which the refs and players were pelted with half full beer bottles was the "right call". Riots indeed are effective.
See Yuz.
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One example of them getting it wrong. Almost all of the replay calls are right, unless it is too close to call anyway.
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Refs are just human beings. They make mistakes. That\'s the reason they don\'t show replays of such incidents on the big screens on stadiums, as not to start a riot if the referee makes a mistake. At least that\'s what I\'ve heard. ;)