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Non Gaming Discussions => Off-Topic => Topic started by: square_marker on June 24, 2002, 08:09:56 AM
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Man, i was watching Sightings...a show about the paranormal and all that junk and they had stuff on alien abductions n stuff.....i was freakin out....it was kinda cool though.
You think you\'ve ever been abducted?
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No, because its never been proven that they exist, and there is no evidence. They are sheer imagination.
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O god, dont start with me narrow minded one.
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no proof? get into area 51.......there oughta be proof around that area.......plus i was looking through a telescope once and I saw a orange light moving back and forth and than it sped off.....scary.......
I dont think ive ever been abducted mainly because.........i never have.....
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Yea...what is our gov\'t hiding in Area 51...i mean they have to be hiding something, they would let us in other wise.
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No, because its never been proven that they exist, and there is no evidence. They are sheer imagination.
Has it ever been proven that they DON\'T exist?
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No square_marker, they don\'t exist. They don\'t appear in BIBLE, so they can\'t exist, right Clowd?
:D
Let\'s see how many pages reach this thread.
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Aw come on guys :laughing: I was serious to, now somehow this has turned into another religion thread.
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:laughing: :laughing:
No no, stop Clowd. I didn\'t say anything, ok?
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Originally posted by Clowd
No, because its never been proven that they exist, and there is no evidence. They are sheer imagination.
I have to agree with him. However, there is a possibility of Aliens existing, it\'s just that there\'s no proof.
All I\'m saying is just don\'t jump into conclusions just because you saw a brightly colored balloon at night and suddenly lost track of it. Besides, Area 51, I believe, has many prototype planes in development that they won\'t want anyone to know about at the moment.
(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F209.41.125.134%2FSightings%2FArt%2FB-2Head.jpg&hash=b84237f2c634264df6eacd84f3d3eadadad839a1)
Alien!?!?!
(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.airforce-technology.com%2Fprojects%2Fb2%2Fimages%2Fb2_6.jpg&hash=ce01b6d5590c201e85f8ce92e6638d545a0daf90)
B-2 Spirit Bomber (A plane that has been in development, secretly, for many years)
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Even if we found life somewhere else, the gov\'t wouldnt tell us. Some people would go crazy and the gov\'t may feel that they will lost control over the people. It is kind of like MGS2 - Patriots thing. Where there is a secret organiztion controlling this....of course this is only a stipulation.
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Originally posted by Square_Marker
Even if we found life somewhere else, the gov\'t wouldnt tell us. Some people would go crazy and the gov\'t may feel that they will lost control over the people. It is kind of like MGS2 - Patriots thing. Where there is a secret organiztion controlling this....of course this is only a stipulation.
BTW, I don\'t believe in Aliens that have a human figure and very high intellect, but I do believe in Bacteria that are found in Asteroids because it is very possible.
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Speaking of the B-2 bomber, I personally believe that the "UFO" that crashed into Roswell was just a prototype of that plane. It makes sense: Minutes after it happened, government personnel rushed to the scene and took away the craft. The entire "alien" end of it was conjured up by a farmer\'s imagination.
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nope, aliens are not real
(fires up new argument)
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Originally posted by square_marker
Man, i was watching Sightings...a show about the paranormal and all that junk and they had stuff on alien abductions n stuff.....i was freakin out....it was kinda cool though.
You think you\'ve ever been abducted?
I see lots of aliens. They mow the grass, they wash dishes and paint yer house! ;) Seem harmless to me. :p
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Originally posted by GmanJoe
I see lots of aliens. They mow the grass, they wash dishes and paint yer house! ;) Seem harmless to me. :p
Hah! This should have been in the "Immigrants" thread.
:)
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Originally posted by Clowd
No, because its never been proven that they exist, and there is no evidence. They are sheer imagination.
It also hasn\'t been proven that God exists. You don\'t necessarily need proof to believe in something.
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Originally posted by shockwaves
It also hasn\'t been proven that God exists. You don\'t necessarily need proof to believe in something.
Theres evidence that points to God, none whatsoever that point to aliens.
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Originally posted by Clowd
Theres evidence that points to God, none whatsoever that point to aliens.
Wow guy, let\'s talk about double standards
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Originally posted by Clowd
Theres evidence that points to God, none whatsoever that point to aliens.
Well, there are many things that point to aliens. At least as much as what points to God. Most scientists do believe that there is intelligent life in other places in the Universe. There\'s a reason for it.
Besides, you don\'t have to know for sure that something exists to be afraid of it, do you? If there is even a chance of something existing, that could be enough sometimes.
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Clowd, do us all a favor and not post in here. You say there is evidence saying there is God (which there might be) then you say there\'s no evidence saying there\'s aliens. There\'s only been somewhere around 1000 sightings (thats a guess). Plus, the universe in almost endless, so you\'d think there\'s another life form somewhere.
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Don\'t get so mad Fayded. Following someone around and hounding them for what they did in other threads is pointless. He\'s going to continue to post here, so what good does saying something like that do? It only gets people angry.
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Do I believe in aliens? I can\'t really say yes or no, just that its very possible. Why wouldn\'t it be possible? Our universe is so huge, anything could be out there.
The one thing I simply cannot accept are psychics. Damn Sylvia Brown...:mad:
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Originally posted by Clowd
Theres evidence that points to God, none whatsoever that point to aliens.
How dumb are you. Ever heard of roswell or Area 51. Gov\'t cover ups. If you want me to get the opinions of everyone at this site then put it in a book i will.
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Originally posted by square_marker
Yea...what is our gov\'t hiding in Area 51...i mean they have to be hiding something, they would let us in other wise.
I\'m not hiding anything in my house; but I\'m still not going to let some random people walk around here.
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Theres evidence that points to God, none whatsoever that point to aliens.
Could you give us some specifics on this evidence pointing to God?
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These threads are all becoming dumb, Clowd is officially the most tactless member on the face of the earth.
What happened to the time when we could actually discuss these things?
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Originally posted by "The One" Billy Gunn
These threads are all becoming dumb, Clowd is officially the most Factless member on the face of the earth.
That\'s better.
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I don\'t doubt that there are aliens visiting this planet, but I tend to turn a blind eye to them. I prefer that they don\'t exist, even if my common sence tells me that yeah, there probably is something out there visiting us. (More like tagging and baggin us like scientists on the Animal Planet do to critters)
I jus don\'t think they have anything to say that\'s worth hearing, and if they\'re dumb enough to assume we\'re responsible enough to impart their technology on us to make our lives better.. well.. god help us. We can barely handle our own technology, let alone some super-advanced shyt that we didn\'t even come unto on our own.
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I don\'t think aliens exist. They just keep this dumb phenomenon alive because of its marketing appeal. We can make tv shows of them, books, movies, apparel, you name it... All so we can earn money. :D
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Originally posted by serrano007
I don\'t think aliens exist. They just keep this dumb phenomenon alive because of its marketing appeal. We can make tv shows of them, books, movies, apparel, you name it... All so we can earn money. :D
Worst. Argument against ET Life. Ever.
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Originally posted by Gohan
Worst. Argument against ET Life. Ever.
Yea, that\'s why ET the movie is so popular.. How about Independence Day? Men In Black? The upcoming Signs?
Oh yea, what about X-Files? Constant alien abductions in South Park?
What about that store in the mall dedicated to glowy crap that mostly is associated with alien crap?
How about video games.....?
Yea, worst agrument ever. Sure. :rolleyes:
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Following that logic.
Crime doesn\'t exist. Its a marketing tool.
Sex doesn\'t exist. Its a marketing tool.
Drugs don\'t exist. They are a marketing tool.
Yeah I\'m sure Viacom is hard at work faking ET sightings.
BTW, Before anyone quotes me. I don\'t necessarily believe in Aliens. I just think serranos logic / reasoning is ridiculously flawed typical of your average MTV Rebel.
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Now, well that you say you don\'t necessarily believe in aliens...
That\'s really what I think. And your logic is flawed too, because you\'re comparing this alien subject with things that are tangible, totally different, and happen to be marketable as well.
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Well even though there really isn\'t any hard evidence that proves the existence of extra terrestrial beings, wouldn\'t it be kind of arrogant of us to say that there are no beings with eqaul intellgience and/or higher intelligence out there in the vastness of space.
I mean come on. Lets get real here. The earth is just a minascule speck in the Universe. I\'m sure there are thousands if not millions, of other species out in space that are thriving and doing just as good, if not better, then us.
And on that note, I bid you adieu
*taps com badge* Enterprise, one to beam up *beaming noise* :)
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It\'s kind of hard to believe in that there are other species smarter than us.. Maybe it\'s human nature, us wanting to be the superiors. But, I do believe there is a higher being out there.. *hopes this doesn\'t turn into a religion thread* :laughing:
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If we do encounter life, knowing the human race, we will want to take their land and resources. I believe that we would be the hostile ones....they just have the probes. :laughing:
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The only thing that scares me is thier insistent attempts to locate my "G" spot, despite my efforts to convince them otherwise.
So my answer would be yes.
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I believe in "aliens". But i dont believe they are in the matter that hollywood has imposed on us. Im sure that there is another inhabital planet with intelegent or not so intelegent life. There has to be. How could earth be the only inhabital planet.
Oh wait maybe its the work of GOD.:rolleyes:
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Also, there are many different versions of aliens...wither they look like humans or little trolls.
The ones that most scare me are the "Greys" Huge black eyes, shorter, skinny, big head
:eek:
I wet myself.......
and again....
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There is no proof, point over. Sightings arent proof. If they were big foot would be real, and all the people who have seen angels would have really seen them.
No evidence.
Over.
Fulltilt, the evidence will be in my post coming soon, I find all the members of the board will find it interesting. It is all hard facts, no doubt. Both creationist and evolutionist agree on the facts I will post tommorow
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Nice pic Clowd!! :laughing:
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Dangit... I\'ve lost my notes...
[Mojojojo mode] Curses! [/Mojojojo]
Anyways, I\'m sure some of you are familiar with... err... that... one... equation, with which one scientics claims that you can estimate the number of planets capable of sustaining life within a galaxy? Right? Anyways, the numbers are quite large (though only estimates). And with the universe being as big as it is, I see it hard to believe that there aren\'t any other civilisations out there. Of course, reality might might be that there\'s just the "great silence", with just us here mangling one innocent, happless planet. The thing is; you can\'t know for sure...
I\'m not afraid of aliens, because if they\'re smart enough to make it here, I\'m sure they\'re smart enough to get the hell outta here once they see how stupid the human race really is. And it doesn\'t take too long to notice that :p
And yes, sightings aren\'t proof, they could be just to improve tourism, boost people\'s belief in the unkown and to form clubs and other crazy stuff (very popular among religions too!).
God can\'t be proven, aliens can\'t be proven, for all we know, God could be an alien!
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Which brings me to my favourite threory concerning the beginning of human life :
A bunch of aliens were travelling around the galaxy, in search of a planet they could use for... something (amusement park, "car" park, aquarium), arrived on earth in the past. They noticed that some of the local animals were quite intelligent, and could be used to help them, with slight modifications. So, they combined their own DNA with the monkees\', and vóila; u got humans.
One of the aliens then thought (they communicated through thoughts); "Hey, Bob, these are quite the amusing little cretins don\'t you agree?" To which Hardware replied, through his mind; "Yah, let\'s leave \'em here and see what becomes of them, could be amusing!"
So there.
This theory would explain why they keep on coming back! To monitor our progress!
I think their final report went something like; "Oh sod the little idiots, they\'re getting dumber by the day..." "Who wants to go get a GalaxyBurger?" "Oooh, ooh, let\'s go by Beta Quadrant in Jamestown, that one waitress there has the sexiest antennae EVER!"
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I think the problem with humans is that we are too smart not that we are too dumb.
We are so intelligent that we make technological advancements way too fast and then we\'re not able to fully adapt to them. By the time we get used to a certain technology and have the opportunity to put it to good use, a new technology comes out that we use to make the same old stuff "new and improved".
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According to drakes equation
N = R* • fp • ne • fl • fi • fc • L
N = The number of civilizations in The Milky Way Galaxy whose electromagnetic emissions are detectable.
R* =The rate of formation of stars suitable for the development of intelligent life.
fp = The fraction of those stars with planetary systems. more info
ne = The number of planets, per solar system, with an environment suitable for life. more info
fl = The fraction of suitable planets on which life actually appears.
fi = The fraction of life bearing planets on which intelligent life emerges. For more information, please visit Dr. William Calvin\'s "The Drake Equation\'s fi"
fc = The fraction of civilizations that develop a technology that releases detectable signs of their existence into space.
L = The length of time such civilizations release detectable signals into space
of all these factors i think L is the most important because if L was say 100 million(i\'m being optimistic here:p) years that would raise the number of civilizations to 4million(this is an estimate) and this is only in the milkyway let alone the universe.
with such numbers i dont think anyone can refute the possibility that aliens exsist(excluding clowd offcourse).
:)
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Originally posted by FullTilt
Could you give us some specifics on this evidence pointing to God?
Here (http://www.psx2central.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=22481)
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Oooh, Tyrant, my hero! *hugs* Now I\'m gonna write that one down for good... :p
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Many individuals who have had conversations with aliens during abduction or visitation experiences have said the aliens admitted to being involved in placing our species and all other life on this planet. That would neatly tie up everyone\'s arguments over the other religion and creation threads that have been floating around here. Only problem is, if the Greys or the Trancendentals placed us here, does that make them our Gods? What\'s the difference?
Also, there is good evidence of alien visitation available to everyone. The evidence is supressed by the leadership of our planet when necessary, and illogically discredited in other cases. For example the entire discussion of two particular phenomena, (crop circle formations and cattle mutilations) have been discredited when individuals came forward claiming to have perpetrated these as hoaxes. The public memory recalls "weren\'t those things disproven a few years back?" When in fact the alleged hoaxters never adequately proved their ability to create crop circles in the necessary complexity, speed, or quantity to explain the real documented phenomena. The same thing occured with the cattle mutilations, which are in fact heavily documented.
You don\'t have to rely on individual\'s accounts of memories of contact with aliens to arrive at a reasonable conclusion that these phenomena could not have been performed by humans using any known technology. The evidence is there, but it\'s not reported in the media. This makes it easy for people who don\'t WANT to believe to ignore the evidence, and assume that if it were real, "Dan Rather would have told me so." The evidence is supressed and discredited, often with active disinformation. Perhaps it\'s better that way because there are in fact a great number of us who would not react well to the certain knowledge that much of their previous view of their lives and the universe is completely wrong.
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Originally posted by Clowd
There is no proof, point over. Sightings arent proof. If they were big foot would be real, and all the people who have seen angels would have really seen them.
No evidence.
That doesnt mean we cant believe.
If sightings and abductions arent proof then the bible isnt proof that there is a god.
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Originally posted by Clowd
No, because its never been proven that they exist, and there is no evidence. They are sheer imagination.
How do you explain UFO\'s? You always post facts so lets hear it.
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Originally posted by Titan
How do you explain UFO\'s? You always post facts so lets hear it.
How do you explain bigfoot?
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Originally posted by Clowd
How do you explain bigfoot?
sitings, and documentation, isn\'t that what the bible is documentation, at least thats the basic prinicple, clowd you must think before u post sh!t like this.
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What makes you think that I believe in Big Foot? Maybe I don\'t believe in big foot. Or maybe I just don\'t give a flying sh!t.
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Originally posted by Clowd
There is no proof, point over. Sightings arent proof. If they were big foot would be real, and all the people who have seen angels would have really seen them.
No evidence.
Over.
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Don\'t forget pictures. They did a DNA test on some hair from the creature. I never did hear the results. But last I heard, big foot is an apelike creature like Australopithesis (but might not be that species exactly). That\'s what they believe the yetti is. An apelike creature. Somehow, big foot and yettis are connected. I saw a show on this a month or two ago. Very interesting that History Channel is.
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There is no proof, point over. Sightings arent proof. If they were big foot would be real, and all the people who have seen angels would have really seen them.
I don\'t think it\'s over. Howcome then thousands saw UFO\'s, hundreds saw a yetti and big foot. All of those people couldn\'t have then hallucenated. Also, those people that saw angels were highly religious like you. So when I see a burglar in my house but caught him just intime before stealing, I can\'t call the police and say what I saw? Would they just say that seeing the burglar is no proof whatso ever? Seeing is perfect proof. So, seeing this stupid post by you isn\'t proof that you wrote it? Do you ever think?
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If you\'re so interested in intelligent discussion Clowd, you should read my post and reply to that.
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I realy wish you would explain yourself clowd instead of posting the same thing over and over.
Fulltilt, the evidence will be in my post coming soon, I find all the members of the board will find it interesting. It is all hard facts, no doubt. Both creationist and evolutionist agree on the facts I will post tommorow
We are all still waiting.:yawn: :snore:
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so clowd...tell me...what does god look like...i mean people see ufo\'s but since you didnt they are not real. So what does he look like?