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Title: America\'s Government!
Post by: square_marker on June 25, 2002, 09:54:16 PM
Seriously...our gov\'t is so corrupt....faking a moon landing...and for those of you who dont believe it...explain the flag blowing in all that wind in space.

Their are probably hundreds of gov\'t cover-ups we dont know about.
Title: America\'s Government!
Post by: Mr. Kennedy on June 25, 2002, 09:57:02 PM
Ok... stop now, this is going to be another prove me righnt, prove me wrong thread!  It will spur 20 other threads on government!
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Post by: Kimahri on June 25, 2002, 09:59:28 PM
k, for the last time.  There is very little gravity on the moon, the flag on its own would appear to almost just float, but when it\'s under the influence of the astronaut holding it, it apears to flap in the "wind"
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Post by: shockwaves on June 25, 2002, 09:59:34 PM
I guarantee that there are hundreds of illegal actions performed and covered up by the government...every year.
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Post by: square_marker on June 25, 2002, 10:01:43 PM
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Originally posted by "The One" Billy Gunn
Ok... stop now, this is going to be another prove me righnt, prove me wrong thread!  It will spur 20 other threads on government!


it isnt like i planned that....:rolleyes:


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k, for the last time. There is very little gravity on the moon, the flag on its own would appear to almost just float, but when it\'s under the influence of the astronaut holding it, it apears to flap in the "wind"


explain crossing shadows from one light source, letters on the props...i mean space rocks...

this is fun :D
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Post by: shockwaves on June 25, 2002, 10:03:45 PM
So, what, there was no flash on the camera?  I mean, wouldn\'t you think there would be low light in space?  And there were no lights on the space shuttle landing thing?
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Post by: ##RaCeR## on June 25, 2002, 10:05:02 PM
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Originally posted by square_marker
Seriously...our gov\'t is so corrupt....faking a moon landing...and for those of you who dont believe it...explain the flag blowing in all that wind in space.


Err, suppose it was a cardboard flag?

It may not have been made outta cotton you know.
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Post by: Kimahri on June 25, 2002, 10:08:04 PM
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Originally posted by square_marker


explain crossing shadows from one light source, letters on the props...i mean space rocks...

this is fun :D


http://www.redzero.demon.co.uk/moonhoax/
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Post by: luckee on June 25, 2002, 10:08:44 PM
I dont think the moon landing was faked..but I certainly think and KNOW they are as crooked as mountain road.

There are even reports that wer hidden fromt he public that were at first denied..but then some how when made public, the govt. admitted to. All governments do this. No big surprise here. They all lie, and toy with things.
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Post by: square_marker on June 25, 2002, 10:11:01 PM
I mean, why would they deny the existence of Area 51 when we had photographic evidence of it too!?
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Post by: luckee on June 25, 2002, 10:13:15 PM
Cuz thats how they do things. The attempt to make you believe you arent seeing what you are seeing..IE..brainwashing.

If someone tells you something enough times...eventuall the average peron will start to believe it or at the least think it.
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Post by: square_marker on June 25, 2002, 10:15:36 PM
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Originally posted by luckee

If someone tells you something enough times...eventuall the average peron will start to believe it or at the least think it.



yes i know, but why would they deny it\'s existence.  Then moved it to a new site....and finally said..yes it is there.
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Post by: Bozco on June 25, 2002, 10:16:38 PM
You can\'t listen to a Michigan fan.
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Post by: square_marker on June 25, 2002, 10:18:11 PM
...tell me your not from ohio...with your buckeyes n crap.


EDIT:  Sorry didnt read your location thing.

GO BLUE
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Post by: Kimahri on June 25, 2002, 10:18:46 PM
Square......dont back yourslef into "Clowd\'s Corner"
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Post by: square_marker on June 25, 2002, 10:19:21 PM
:eek: .......im sorry...ill stop aruging...i dont wanna be clowd.
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Post by: Bozco on June 25, 2002, 10:23:05 PM
Damn right I\'m a buckeyes fan.:D
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Post by: Tom on June 25, 2002, 11:44:48 PM
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Originally posted by square_marker
:eek: .......im sorry...ill stop aruging...i dont wanna be clowd.


Theres nothing wrong with arguing. Its how you actually represent yourself that determines how you fare in a debate. Just refrain from what he usually does (ie, post meaningless "facts" and ignore posts/questions).
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Post by: SER on June 26, 2002, 12:55:30 AM
I think all governments have coverups, that\'s just how it is.
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Post by: square_marker on June 26, 2002, 10:41:37 AM
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Originally posted by Tom G


Theres nothing wrong with arguing. Its how you actually represent yourself that determines how you fare in a debate. Just refrain from what he usually does (ie, post meaningless "facts" and ignore posts/questions).


Well i am not saying that our gov\'t is corrupt...i just think that there may be a possiblity of it you know.
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Post by: luckee on June 26, 2002, 11:43:00 AM
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Originally posted by square_marker


Well i am not saying that our gov\'t is corrupt...i just think that there may be a possiblity of it you know.


puhleeezz...Id sooner put m0ney on the govt. being corrupt b4 I would bet saying they arent..lol
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Post by: unfocused on June 26, 2002, 11:58:13 AM
I\'d like to hear you tell an astronaut that the moon landing is fake.  We wouldn\'t spend millions and millions of dollars not to land on the moon, that would be extremely stupid.
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Post by: Mr. Kennedy on June 26, 2002, 12:00:45 PM
I warned you...

luckily clowd hasn\'t found his way into this discussion, actually, he probably did, but I wouldn\'t know, bwahahahahahahah!!  :laughing: :evil: :laughing:
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Post by: luckee on June 26, 2002, 12:01:53 PM
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Originally posted by unfocused
I\'d like to hear you tell an astronaut that the moon landing is fake.  We wouldn\'t spend millions and millions of dollars not to land on the moon, that would be extremely stupid.


Not doubting the 1st moon landing..but it wouldnt be the 1st time the govt. wasted millions and millions on something with no results. The "war" on drugs is a prime example.
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Post by: slick on June 26, 2002, 01:47:49 PM
the moon landing must be real, other countries also explore space, i doubt they  would lie also.
but i think that the government hides things from the public to protect us.  for instance, if the whole roswell thing is true(whether it is or not, lets not get into it), but say that it was, and the government told the public that an alien crash landed on earth, i would bet that the public would freak out.  remember "Y2K", that scared the crap out of a lot of people(i just hoped my HD wouldn\'t crash), but imagine an "alien" on earth.  whatever, just my opinion.
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Post by: luckee on June 26, 2002, 02:00:44 PM
I dont buy that protect us BS. Just as bad as a mandatory seatbelt law. I don\'t need protection in that sense. Thats just insulting our intelligence IMO.
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Post by: SER on June 26, 2002, 02:30:06 PM
Some people are just stupid and to stubborn to buckle up. Even though there is a law, people still don\'t do it...
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Post by: luckee on June 26, 2002, 02:43:14 PM
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Originally posted by serrano007
Some people are just stupid and to stubborn to buckle up. Even though there is a law, people still don\'t do it...


Thats another opinion..seatblets save and kill

Just like airbags do

I personsally prefer a quick release harness and a roll cage
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Post by: clowd on June 26, 2002, 03:57:12 PM
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Originally posted by luckee


Thats another opinion..seatblets save and kill

Just like airbags do

I personsally prefer a quick release harness and a roll cage


I prefer to wear a seatbelt,  considering something like 90% of auto fatalities werent wearing one.
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Post by: Halberto on June 26, 2002, 04:13:01 PM
Did you ever think they did it for the good of the public?
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Post by: Titan on June 26, 2002, 04:31:13 PM
Geez. Something on that show. They said on FOX that a crater at Area 51 is just like a crater on the moon. How did they get the satelite photo from Area 51? There is no way that something like that can get released. We can\'t even really prove that Area 51 actually exists. If you hear anything about Area 51, don\'t believe it because the stuff in there is HIGHLY classified. There is no way that there is a leak.
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Post by: luckee on June 26, 2002, 05:37:31 PM
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Originally posted by Titan
Geez. Something on that show. They said on FOX that a crater at Area 51 is just like a crater on the moon. How did they get the satelite photo from Area 51? There is no way that something like that can get released. We can\'t even really prove that Area 51 actually exists. If you hear anything about Area 51, don\'t believe it because the stuff in there is HIGHLY classified. There is no way that there is a leak.



:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:  Yea..no way something can leak out from the govt.:rolleyes:
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Post by: luckee on June 26, 2002, 05:38:42 PM
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Originally posted by ViVi
Did you ever think they did it for the good of the public?


More than likely that is the case..but yet isnt the point. Do you really need someone to tell you whats good for you and what isnt? Whats worse..punishable by law even when you dont listen. That is just plain retarded.
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Post by: Coredweller on June 26, 2002, 05:39:52 PM
The moon landings were not faked entirely, but some of the photographs, video, and samples returned from the moon were faked.  They just didn\'t tell us about everything they found there, so a few things had to be "erased" from the photographs.  Back in the late 60\'s photographic editing wasn\'t as advanced as it is today, so many modified images were released to the public that can now be easily identified as being tampered with.  You can still download these images from NASA\'s website and see for yourself, you just have to know what you\'re looking for because there are thousands of still images posted there.

So what were they worried about revealing?  Some hold that the US Government knew about alien observation bases on the moon, and the Apollo missions were set up to investigate.  We found more than we wanted, and humans were quickly "warned off" of the moon in no uncertain terms.  The Apollo missions were continued through mission 17 to maintain a semblence of normality for the US public, but the following flights were cancelled because of alien intervention.

There is quite a bit of evidence to indiate that our interest in the Moon has never been entirely scientific.  Have you ever heard of a Dept of Defense-sponsored satellite program called Clementine, which sent modern high technology imaging equipment to lunar orbit?  Why would the military be interested in photographing the moon?  The images posted on the Clementine site http://www.nrl.navy.mil/clementine/ don\'t come anywhere close to representing the image resolution capabilities of the hardware carried on that spacecraft.  Also, the site doesn\'t give any sense of what the true mission was behind this expensive project.
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Post by: luckee on June 26, 2002, 05:45:25 PM
Core, that kind of makes sense. When is the last time we went to the moon? All other space missions have involved the international space station or just some orbiting experiments..satellite launches and the likes.
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Post by: Titan on June 26, 2002, 05:45:49 PM
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Originally posted by luckee



:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:  Yea..no way something can leak out from the govt.:rolleyes:


You know what I meant. Some screw ball may leak something out but........
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Post by: luckee on June 26, 2002, 05:55:46 PM
but nothing..every 10-15 years it comes out that many people were found to be leaking very sensitive top secret info. It always happens in any govt...specially ours.
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Post by: Titan on June 26, 2002, 05:59:14 PM
Whatever, I don\'t care much about our government.
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Post by: mm on June 26, 2002, 06:22:53 PM
we landed on the moon

its quite ignorant to think otherwise
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Post by: luckee on June 26, 2002, 06:40:01 PM
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Originally posted by mm
we landed on the moon

its quite ignorant to think otherwise


Not true...it would be ignorant to just accept we did without leaving all options open.
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Post by: square_marker on June 26, 2002, 07:07:54 PM
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Originally posted by luckee


Not true...it would be ignorant to just accept we did without leaving all options open.


take that mm :laughing:
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Post by: §ôµÏG®ïñD on June 26, 2002, 09:01:41 PM
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Originally posted by mm
we landed on the moon

its quite ignorant to think otherwise


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Post by: Titan on June 27, 2002, 10:12:51 AM
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Originally posted by §ôµÏG®ïñD


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:laughing: Take that mm :D