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Title: Star Wars Episode 3.. How do you see it playing out?
Post by: videoholic on July 02, 2002, 08:04:32 AM
Can\'t really say there are spoilers since I have no clue what I am talking about..

I went and saw Star Wars the other day finally and I had some thoughts on episode 3.  I’m not a fanatic so I don’t know if there is tons of info out there already about episode 3, but here is my take on what might happen.

I think they may start episode 3 with Princess Laya already born (a baby).  She is a princess because she follows in her mothers footsteps.  I think they have Luke midway through the movie.  Somewhere in here the Senator dies.  Her death is what pushes Anakin over the edge.  He freaked out over his mom, I\'m sure he\'d wig out over Natalie Portman.  (Hubba hubba) I can’t figure out whether Anakin takes Luke to his father in-law’s place or if someone else does though.  

Anyone else have any thoughts on how it could go?  If there is info on the web I’d like to give a read so put up a link biatch.
Title: Star Wars Episode 3.. How do you see it playing out?
Post by: Mr. Kennedy on July 02, 2002, 09:07:18 AM
probably obi-wan does it after his fight w/ Anakin to protect them from (MAJOR SPOILER)........




















Anakin who becomes darth vader.:laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

You thought I actually had new news?
Title: Star Wars Episode 3.. How do you see it playing out?
Post by: videoholic on July 02, 2002, 09:17:36 AM
Oh yeah, I forgot about Obi-Wan..  But why would he take the boy to a place where Anakin knows?
Title: Star Wars Episode 3.. How do you see it playing out?
Post by: Mr. Kennedy on July 02, 2002, 09:26:59 AM
Anakin has no idea what anyone did with his kids, remember luke and leia were seperated.

Also remember, Obi-wan aka Ben Kenobi becomes a hermit not oo far from where luke lives...
Title: Star Wars Episode 3.. How do you see it playing out?
Post by: nO-One on July 02, 2002, 09:42:46 AM
*spoiler*
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The story will continue where Darth Sidious/Counselor Palpatine will manipulate Anakin to join the dark side. (well duh). Padmé will be or get pregnant with the twins (Luke and leya), however Anakin will join the dark side and hunt down the jedi, then Padmé will go hide on Aldeeran, and is raised by Bail Organa. Young Luke is hidden on Tattoine with Lars Owen.

The Republic will fall and the Empire will rise, thus Palpatine\'s plans will....well..go as he planned.

And Obi Wan and Anakin will have a big fight, Obi Wan wins and Anakin falls into a lava pit or something, that\'s why as Darth Vader he needs his suit to survive. And because his body is so badly damaged his midichlorian count becomes lower so he won\'t be the super force user he was, allthough he\'s still amongst the strongest.
Title: Star Wars Episode 3.. How do you see it playing out?
Post by: Mr. Kennedy on July 02, 2002, 09:48:53 AM
Cool info on characters...

read here (http://cgi.theforce.net/theforce/tfn.cgi?storyID=17242)
Title: Star Wars Episode 3.. How do you see it playing out?
Post by: videoholic on July 02, 2002, 09:54:05 AM
I was talking about Luke and Leya as twins the other day with someone and they didn\'t think they were twins.  I wasn\'t sure at all and leya seemed older so I just assumed.

Episode 3 should be pretty darn good with how things are shaping up.
Title: Star Wars Episode 3.. How do you see it playing out?
Post by: Coredweller on July 02, 2002, 10:58:03 AM
I think:


But then you know it\'ll suck because Lucas has ruined the last two films.  You know he\'ll find some way to sneak some idiotic Ewok battle or a Gungan battle, or another Donkey Kong style conveyor belt chase into it.  I may not even watch it.
Title: Star Wars Episode 3.. How do you see it playing out?
Post by: videoholic on July 02, 2002, 11:08:35 AM
You know that lucas throws things like that converyor built sequence into these movies because they would make for good video games.  I sat there watching it just wondering where the game is.  Actually it may already be out for all I know.
Title: Star Wars Episode 3.. How do you see it playing out?
Post by: Titan on July 02, 2002, 12:13:48 PM
I could probably tell you what\'s going to happen because I\'m a Star Wars fanatic (just look at the TIE Avenger under my name). Luke and Leia are going to be born. Anakin will be seduced to the dark side and the Empire will be formed from the Old Republic. Anakin will become Darth Vader and Vader will fight Obi and fall into a molten pit and has to wear his black suit.
Title: Star Wars Episode 3.. How do you see it playing out?
Post by: videoholic on July 02, 2002, 12:18:43 PM
You have just stated all the obvious stuff.

I was kind of going for do you think we\'ll see the birth of Luke and Leya or will they already be around?  How do they get seperated?  Why does Yoda end up in the swamp?
Title: Star Wars Episode 3.. How do you see it playing out?
Post by: Titan on July 02, 2002, 12:21:56 PM
Yoda goes into an unknown planet system where the Emperor wouldn\'t be able to find him. Even Luke was having trouble finding Degobah. Luke and Leia get separated for a couple reasons. The emperor knows that they will one day become powerful so he and Vader want to turn them to the Dark Side either that or they would have hunted them down and killed them. I still am yet to find out how Leia becomes the princess of Alderaan.
Title: Star Wars Episode 3.. How do you see it playing out?
Post by: nO-One on July 02, 2002, 12:29:50 PM
It\'s not known if they are already born or if they will be born in the movie.

They are seperated to protect them from Vader, Luke is sent to Tatooine because Vader won\'t go there, too many bad memories and such, and he doesn\'t even know about Leya being his daughter.

Only 2 Jedi make it through this, Yoda and Obi Wan (Perhaps more I\'m not sure), they go into hiding so the empire won\'t hunt them down, Obi Wan goes to Tatooine to protect Luke incase Vader comes.
Title: Star Wars Episode 3.. How do you see it playing out?
Post by: Titan on July 02, 2002, 12:36:25 PM
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Originally posted by nO-One
It\'s not known if they are already born or if they will be born in the movie.

They are seperated to protect them from Vader, Luke is sent to Tatooine because Vader won\'t go there, too many bad memories and such, and he doesn\'t even know about Leya being his daughter.

Only 2 Jedi make it through this, Yoda and Obi Wan (Perhaps more I\'m not sure), they go into hiding so the empire won\'t hunt them down, Obi Wan goes to Tatooine to protect Luke incase Vader comes.


Vader knows about Leia. "Yes, a sister. You have a twin sister. If you don\'t turn to the dark side, then perhaps she will."

Luke goes to Obi\'s brother (or half brother. don\'t remember exactly).

Alot more Jedi make it through. Off the top of my head, I also know about Rahn. He also escapes and gives Morgan Katarn his lightsaber trusting that it will make it to Kyle Katarn\'s hands and he too becomes a jedi. There are a few more jedi but have to go back into my books to find them.
Title: Star Wars Episode 3.. How do you see it playing out?
Post by: Coredweller on July 02, 2002, 03:24:42 PM
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Originally posted by Titan
Vader knows about Leia. "Yes, a sister. You have a twin sister. If you don\'t turn to the dark side, then perhaps she will."

Luke goes to Obi\'s brother (or half brother. don\'t remember exactly).

Alot more Jedi make it through. Off the top of my head, I also know about Rahn. He also escapes and gives Morgan Katarn his lightsaber trusting that it will make it to Kyle Katarn\'s hands and he too becomes a jedi. There are a few more jedi but have to go back into my books to find them.


1.  Vader didn\'t know about Leia until Return of the Jedi.  He read Luke\'s mind during their battle.  He didn\'t know before.  If he had known, why wouldn\'t they have mentioned it in Episode 4?

2.  Uncle Owen is not related to Obi Wan.  He just married Luke\'s grandma, and that\'s it.  

3.  That stuff you mentioned about Rahn and Katarn, etc is from the books or the games or something.  NOT CANON.  That stuff is going to be in any movies.
Title: Star Wars Episode 3.. How do you see it playing out?
Post by: Cyrus on July 02, 2002, 03:29:39 PM
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Originally posted by Titan


Vader knows about Leia. "Yes, a sister. You have a twin sister. If you don\'t turn to the dark side, then perhaps she will."

Luke goes to Obi\'s brother (or half brother. don\'t remember exactly).

Alot more Jedi make it through. Off the top of my head, I also know about Rahn. He also escapes and gives Morgan Katarn his lightsaber trusting that it will make it to Kyle Katarn\'s hands and he too becomes a jedi. There are a few more jedi but have to go back into my books to find them.


Darth Vader did not know about Leia you skiped the most valuable part of that statement or left it out "Yes, a sister. ---obi one was wise to hide her from me---. If you don\'t turn to the dark side, then perhaps she will."
Title: Star Wars Episode 3.. How do you see it playing out?
Post by: KillaX on July 02, 2002, 04:00:16 PM
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Originally posted by Videoholic
I was talking about Luke and Leya as twins the other day with someone and they didn\'t think they were twins.  I wasn\'t sure at all and leya seemed older so I just assumed.
 


in Ep6 when Luke goes back to see Yoda he says Luke you have a twin sister.......or maybe it was darth in the last battle........it was one of those 2 scenes......  Already said earlier in other posts....that is what i get for not reading all the posts........

BTW I\'m watching the Professional with Natalie Portman in it.........in the Memory GAme part she looked semi hot in that Madonna and Marilyn Munore Outfits.......Pity she is waaaay to young for me.


:hat:ScottyJ:hat:
Title: Star Wars Episode 3.. How do you see it playing out?
Post by: M4 on July 02, 2002, 04:20:57 PM
I want to see Dooku summon flames from hell to scorch Jar Jar into a crispy McNougat.
Title: Star Wars Episode 3.. How do you see it playing out?
Post by: Titan on July 02, 2002, 04:37:22 PM
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Originally posted by Coredweller


1.  Vader didn\'t know about Leia until Return of the Jedi.  He read Luke\'s mind during their battle.  He didn\'t know before.  If he had known, why wouldn\'t they have mentioned it in Episode 4?

2.  Uncle Owen is not related to Obi Wan.  He just married Luke\'s grandma, and that\'s it.  

3.  That stuff you mentioned about Rahn and Katarn, etc is from the books or the games or something.  NOT CANON.  That stuff is going to be in any movies.


1. Whoops. I guess I messed up. I did think that he knew. If he did know, they wouldn\'t have mentioned it first off for suspense reasons. Also, Luke and Vader didn\'t meet face to face.

2. I can give you proof that Owen Lars is related to Obi.
This source I\'m getting it from is from a book. Star Wars: The Essential Guide to Characters They say and I quote word for word. "Records of Kenobi\'s youth are spotty. It is not known where he grew up, but he does have at least one brother, Owen Lars, who died on Tatooine." Taken from Page 91 on a bio on Obi-Wan Kenobi.
"Owen Lars was never as flashy as his brother, Obi-Wan Kenobi, one of the stronges Jedi Knights, nor as daring as Kenobi\'s friend, Anakin Skywalker." Page 102 Owen and Beru Lars.
Who knows their SW stuff now Coredweller

3. Even though it\'s not mentioned in the movies, Katarn and Rahn are still part of the Star Wars universe and are actual Star Wars characters. Books and games do count.
Here\'s a link about Kyle Katarn http://www.starwars.com/databank/character/kylekatarn/eu.html
Title: Star Wars Episode 3.. How do you see it playing out?
Post by: Coredweller on July 02, 2002, 04:47:01 PM
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Originally posted by Titan
2. I can give you proof that Owen Lars is related to Obi.
This source I\'m getting it from is from a book. Star Wars: The Essential Guide to Characters They say and I quote word for word. "Records of Kenobi\'s youth are spotty. It is not known where he grew up, but he does have at least one brother, Owen Lars, who died on Tatooine." Taken from Page 91 on a bio on Obi-Wan Kenobi.
"Owen Lars was never as flashy as his brother, Obi-Wan Kenobi, one of the stronges Jedi Knights, nor as daring as Kenobi\'s friend, Anakin Skywalker." Page 102 Owen and Beru Lars.
Who knows their SW stuff now Coredweller

3. Even though it\'s not mentioned in the movies, Katarn and Rahn are still part of the Star Wars universe and are actual Star Wars characters. Books and games do count.
Here\'s a link about Kyle Katarn http://www.starwars.com/databank/character/kylekatarn/eu.html
Stuff from books and games doesn\'t mean a thing.  It\'s not Canon.  I have no idea who wrote that book you cited, or where they got their information from.  You ought to know that just because it\'s written in a book doesn\'t make it reliable.  This is of course more important in the real world than in some argument about the Star Wars universe, but it applies here too.

There is so much bogus additional marketing junk and novels written by crappy authors and lousy forgotten games around based on Star Wars, that you can\'t depend on all that stuff to predict what will appear in Episode 3 THE MOVIE.  The movies are canon, and they are what Lucas wrote or at least cowrote/outlined.  Not those books.
Title: Star Wars Episode 3.. How do you see it playing out?
Post by: Titan on July 02, 2002, 04:54:22 PM
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Originally posted by Coredweller
Stuff from books and games doesn\'t mean a thing.  It\'s not Canon.  I have no idea who wrote that book you cited, or where they got their information from.  You ought to know that just because it\'s written in a book doesn\'t make it reliable.  This is of course more important in the real world than in some argument about the Star Wars universe, but it applies here too.

There is so much bogus additional marketing junk and novels written by crappy authors and lousy forgotten games around based on Star Wars, that you can\'t depend on all that stuff to predict what will appear in Episode 3 THE MOVIE.  The movies are canon, and they are what Lucas wrote or at least cowrote/outlined.  Not those books.


Oh yeah, books never count in series :rolleyes: The books that are written all count for the Star Wars series. So I guess Han and Leia never get married. I guess the whole galaxy ends right there. I guess Nym never actually aided in the battle of Naboo. Luke never became a real jedi Knight. I guess he never started a Jedi Academy. I guess Palpetine never made clones of himself prior to E6. I guess Shadows of the Empire and Luke planning how to free Solo never happened. The books and games are still stories about Star Wars and still count.

BTW, Andy Mangels wrote the Characters book. It is a good book and explains all of the characters up until 1995 (I\'m getting the new one). I read parts of the new one and they still are pretty close to each other. I think the same author wrote both but not exactly sure. If the books were not written, the whole post Star Wars ordeal will never make sense
Title: Star Wars Episode 3.. How do you see it playing out?
Post by: Mr. Kennedy on July 02, 2002, 06:57:40 PM
1) Obi knew Anakin had connections with the Lars, but brought Luke there shortly after birth because it was far from Imperial Activity.  It wasn\'t til the two droids landed on Tatoine that the imperials got involved.

2)If you remember, Obi-Wan fought along side Bail Organa in the clone wars and became life long friends.  In the interest of safety, he seperated Leia from Luke by letting her be raised by Bial.  Luke was raised as an average teen while Leia was raised as a princess.

3)Because Obi-Wan lacked experience-- combined with Anakins strong will, when Obi tries to lure Anakin back to the light side it results in a ferocious lightsaber battle.

4)It is true that Anakin stumbled into a pit of molten lava and emerged half-dead, a scarred hulk who couldn\'t breathe on his own.  Psychologically, he was transformed into Darth Vader.

5)Kenobi remained on Tatione to keep track of young Luke Skywalker.

Note that Mon Momtha declared rebellion after palpatine proclaims himself emperor.
Title: Star Wars Episode 3.. How do you see it playing out?
Post by: Titan on July 03, 2002, 08:19:43 AM
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Originally posted by "The One" Billy Gunn
1) Obi knew Anakin had connections with the Lars, but brought Luke there shortly after birth because it was far from Imperial Activity.  It wasn\'t til the two droids landed on Tatoine that the imperials got involved.

2)If you remember, Obi-Wan fought along side Bail Organa in the clone wars and became life long friends.  In the interest of safety, he seperated Leia from Luke by letting her be raised by Bial.  Luke was raised as an average teen while Leia was raised as a princess.

3)Because Obi-Wan lacked experience-- combined with Anakins strong will, when Obi tries to lure Anakin back to the light side it results in a ferocious lightsaber battle.

4)It is true that Anakin stumbled into a pit of molten lava and emerged half-dead, a scarred hulk who couldn\'t breathe on his own.  Psychologically, he was transformed into Darth Vader.

5)Kenobi remained on Tatione to keep track of young Luke Skywalker.

Note that Mon Momtha declared rebellion after palpatine proclaims himself emperor.


1. Another reason Luke was taken to Tatooine and to live with Obi\'s brother is first off because Tatooine is in the Outer Rim Territories and Tatooine is way out of the Empire\'s reach.

2. Forgot about that part. That sure does explain. Stupid me.

3. Very true.

4. Obi Wan saved Anakin. After he fell into the molten pit, Obi pulled Anakin out and saved him. I guess Obi wanted to try to save Anakin once more but either didn\'t or Anakin fled.

5. That makes perfect sense.

6. I don\'t know too much about Mon Mothma. I\'m just assuming that she was also in politics and didn\'t like Palpatine that much. Oh well, looks like we have to wait until 2005 for the answers (or search the internet in a year or two ;) )

Andy Mengals wrote the second characters book as well, so the info should be the same (going back to my older post)
Title: Star Wars Episode 3.. How do you see it playing out?
Post by: videoholic on June 07, 2005, 07:27:10 PM
a look back is always nice.
Title: Star Wars Episode 3.. How do you see it playing out?
Post by: CHIZZY on June 08, 2005, 03:26:25 AM
so is a juicy pair of dairy cannons.
Title: Star Wars Episode 3.. How do you see it playing out?
Post by: Avatarr on June 08, 2005, 05:08:46 AM
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2. Uncle Owen is not related to Obi Wan. He just married Luke\'s grandma, and that\'s it.


Okay, this is really really wrong. Not to mention incredably sick. I often make light of sick things like necrophelea, so me saying something is sick means a lot. Uncle Owen\'s DAD married Luke\'s grandma! NOT UNCLE OWEN HIMSELF! THAT WOULD BE INCREDABLY FUCKED UP!