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Title: Ok... Just computer problems in general.. *sigh*
Post by: SwifDi on July 13, 2002, 10:25:54 PM
Well I was away from vacation and the PC that I use is basically a family PC and I get back and its all bugged up.....

For one thing, every time Windows finishes loading an "Illegal Operation" message box pops up regarding Outlook, and after I click OK on that another message box says that there was an error starting a program because a certain file is missing.

And also, my god damn home page keeps changing. I\'ve used ad-aware thrice now and I\'m stuck.
Title: Ok... Just computer problems in general.. *sigh*
Post by: Luke on July 13, 2002, 10:36:00 PM
Sucks to be you
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Post by: SwifDi on July 13, 2002, 10:37:46 PM
Thanks.....
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Post by: The Stapler on July 13, 2002, 10:40:29 PM
Do you have a two story house? If so, walk you computer to the highest window....
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Post by: theomen on July 13, 2002, 10:40:51 PM
grab you windows cd, and reinstall the missing file.  probably a .dll file.
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Post by: theomen on July 13, 2002, 10:41:49 PM
damnit, it double posted me.
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Post by: SwifDi on July 13, 2002, 10:42:34 PM
1. I live in a cave.. we don\'t even have windows.

2. It is a .dll file, and I\'ll try that later.
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Post by: Kimahri on July 13, 2002, 10:43:55 PM
hehe, thats par for the course for my computer.

Have you tried reinstalling outlook?

for the missing file: Does it specify which file is missing?...if so try to find it on the net if its a .dll file or such.

If it doesnt specify the file name, does it tell you which program isnt loading because of the missing file?.....if so try reinstalling that program.

And the changin home page problem sounds like a virus i once had.  If i tried to change my home page it would always change back to the other page and try to make me download something.
Title: Re: Ok... Just computer problems in general.. *sigh*
Post by: moovingnstereo1 on July 13, 2002, 10:44:46 PM
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Originally posted by \\/apor Snake
Well I was away from vacation and the PC that I use is basically a family PC and I get back and its all bugged up.....

For one thing, every time Windows finishes loading an "Illegal Operation" message box pops up regarding Outlook, and after I click OK on that another message box says that there was an error starting a program because a certain file is missing.

And also, my god damn home page keeps changing. I\'ve used ad-aware thrice now and I\'m stuck.
here Vapor this might help go to this site http://www.speedguide.net/ (http://www.speedguide.net/)  they will help you Trust me:Dlook under trouble shooting or go to discusions and post a thread just like here and someone with lots of training with youre OS will help they  are the masters of computing and computers  good luck
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Post by: SwifDi on July 13, 2002, 10:46:11 PM
1. It does specify, its like 300043053.dll

2. Doesn\'t tell me for which program.

3. Know a good virus scanner that could help? I have some old school McAfee piece of shit that came with Win98.
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Post by: theomen on July 13, 2002, 10:49:11 PM
when the error comes up, write down the exact dll file. then type it in verbatum into google, and you\'ll be set.
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Post by: The Stapler on July 13, 2002, 10:49:29 PM
You could always "pruchase" Norton or something, but then you might get another virus...
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Post by: SwifDi on July 13, 2002, 10:51:01 PM
Thats the last thing I need right now... And those warez sites have too many pop ups.... And they force you to vote their site at least a 10... its too much work.
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Post by: theomen on July 13, 2002, 10:53:14 PM
ahh, now I see why someone needed kazaalite. ;)
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Post by: SwifDi on July 13, 2002, 10:56:42 PM
Yes... I\'m done with the .dll problem... Tomorrow i\'ll try and tackle the outlook and homepage problem... The main bugger is that damn home page one.
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Post by: theomen on July 13, 2002, 10:58:26 PM
could always try staring at porn for hours.  it may not help, but it couldn\'t hurt.
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Post by: shockwaves on July 13, 2002, 11:10:56 PM
My computer\'s been doing some weird stuff too.  I\'m running Windows ME (hell, that right there might be half of the problem).  Every time I start the computer up, the thing runs scan disk, saying the computer was shut down inproperly, no matter how I shut it down.  It even does that if I just have the thing restart.  It also randomly doesn\'t register my connection to the internet sometimes when I start up.  I have to restart when that happens, until it registers the connection.  Any idea what any of that is about?
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Post by: Tom on July 13, 2002, 11:20:57 PM
I had that homepage problem a while back. Whats yours being changed to?

I ran adaware and that took care of it.
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Post by: moovingnstereo1 on July 13, 2002, 11:33:19 PM
sounds like everyone got kazaa i downloaded it to get free music but i always got an error dont remember the exact problem or error but i did a factory restore and didnt get kazaa and went to this site it was the bomb i tell you www.speedguide.net (http://www.speedguide.net ) and learned a whole bunch about my os im running in other words windows system and how to tweak my 56k and my windows you should try this site it is for dsl and broadbaned users 56k have fun
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Post by: Ryu on July 13, 2002, 11:34:56 PM
First of all, the homepage thing is not an OS bug, it\'s something that another program forced you to install when you installed.  Lots of people on the net tend to just hit next half a billion times on install not examining what it is that is being installed.  Chances are, you installed a nice piece of spyware and all these changes are being forced upon you.  lop.com is but one example.  There\'s a stupid program that lets you run a monkey or something on your comp that also does that.  Just use programs that scan your harddrive for spyware and such to get rid of the problem.  That will fix it.  If it redirects you to lop.com, there are numerous fixes for that on the Internet.
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Post by: KillaX on July 14, 2002, 06:20:17 AM
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Originally posted by shockwaves
My computer\'s been doing some weird stuff too.  I\'m running Windows ME (hell, that right there might be half of the problem).  Every time I start the computer up, the thing runs scan disk, saying the computer was shut down inproperly, no matter how I shut it down.  It even does that if I just have the thing restart.  It also randomly doesn\'t register my connection to the internet sometimes when I start up.  I have to restart when that happens, until it registers the connection.  Any idea what any of that is about?


WIN ME is a problem! My version never shut down properly and then one day *BOOM* Blue Screen of death!  I went and got XP Pro put on it....bad thing is my Burner wont work now.........I checked my hardawre profile and it says it is working properly but easy creator 5 platinum says it isnt there.............I have asked them and they are dumbfounded too!  maybe I should downgrade to 98SE...........


:hat:ScottyJ:hat:
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Post by: SwifDi on July 14, 2002, 10:38:51 AM
(Sorry Double post)
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Post by: SwifDi on July 14, 2002, 10:39:51 AM
Ok... The .DLL is still a problem, however the homepage thing is not. I removed the final piece of spyware that was doing it.

To be honest, I\'m think its a virus. My sis says after downloading a song off Kazaa all her songs turned into VBScriptFiles. I really need a good virus scanner here, anyone can hook me up?

And the .dll file is WTSAPI32.DLL . I punched it into google and found a place where I can download it but I don\'t know what program to open it with. Help!
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Post by: SwifDi on July 14, 2002, 10:56:52 AM
...Holy shitballs....

Ok, so I\'m on the forums just a second ago and that one banner "Your computer may be infected!" came up, so I just said, what the hell and clicked it. I downloaded the Defender Virus Scanner, and now its scanning....

TONS OF VIRUSES! Called VBS.LoveLetter, all from Kazaa! I\'m shitting my pants here folks.
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Post by: moovingnstereo1 on July 14, 2002, 11:00:23 AM
http://housecall.antivirus.com (http://housecall.antivirus.com) here
:laughing:
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Post by: SwifDi on July 14, 2002, 11:03:07 AM
Ok thanks... I"m trying that now.
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Post by: Ryu on July 14, 2002, 11:07:53 AM
The only thing you can do is download new virus software to protect your machine and clean it out.  Norton, MacAfee, any of those will do it just fine.  Love Letter is an older virus so there should be a fix for it.
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Post by: SwifDi on July 14, 2002, 11:24:19 AM
Well its scanning (So far 130 infected files....), and under Scan Result it says "Non Cleanable" . I\'m refering to the site movingstereo got me.

I have an old version of McAfee, but its so old it doesn\'t even notice the virus. Any links for a top notch (free) one?
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Post by: Ryu on July 14, 2002, 11:29:26 AM
I hate to say this seeing as how this is where the problem originated, but KaZaA Lite just might be the answer to your question.  :shy:
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Post by: -____- on July 14, 2002, 03:45:21 PM
Kazaa Lite has it too, i got it twice \'cause my friend was downloading his rap mp3s. :p  They had loveletter viruses in em. rar
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Post by: SwifDi on July 14, 2002, 04:24:50 PM
Any suggestions on how to get this virus off my computer? Its in tons of folders, help!
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Post by: -____- on July 14, 2002, 04:29:07 PM
I use Norton Antivirus, quarantine the virus, and delete it.
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Post by: SwifDi on July 14, 2002, 04:40:04 PM
Its actually a worm.... This thing changes all mp3 files to bogus crap so I can\'t play songs... It also seems to be affecting Outlook.... And my cheesy Virus Defender (eAnthology) crashes when I run it... But right now I\'m downloading Norton Antivirus 2003. Lets hope some progress is made.
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Post by: SwifDi on July 14, 2002, 07:30:08 PM
Yep... A worm called VBS Love Letter. Thing is really spreading and my computer crashes constantly. Luckily I have a friend who\'s a computer genious and he is probably going to try to delete the crap out of my registry, and if that is to no avail I\'ll just reformat.

I\'ve used 3 different virus scanners and the second I say "Clean" an illegal operation box comes up and exits the program.

Argh... thats all I can say... Argh.
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Post by: theomen on July 14, 2002, 07:33:32 PM
try this;

If Outlook is running, close now! There is still a chance that the messages in your Outbox were not sent yet. Unplug your network adapter/modem to ensure that you cannot accidentally connect, open Outlook again, and delete all entries from your Outbox.

Close Outlook.

Now, make sure the virus is no longer running. Press Ctrl-Alt-Del. If you are running Windows NT/2000, you will also need click on task manager then on the Processes tab. Look for any processes named WScript. If any exist, select them and click the End Task button (End Proccess under Win NT/2000). If the process does not terminate, try again in a few seconds.

Run regedit.exe (Click Start->Run, enter \'regedit\' and click OK).

Go to HKEY_CURRENT_USER->Software->Microsoft->Windows Script Host->Settings. If there is an entry for Timeout, delete it. I did not have this, but the source code looks like it may exist.

Go to HKEY_CURRENT_USER->Software->Microsoft->Internet Explorer->Main. Scroll down until you see an entry for Start Page. Double click on it, and edit it so it reflects the correct start page (Ideally slashdot.org or thepope.org :) ).

Go to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE->Software->Microsoft->Windows->CurrentVersion->Run. Delete the entry for MSKernel32.

Go to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE->Software->Microsoft->Windows->CurrentVersion->RunServices. Delete the entry for Win32DLL.

Go to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\\Software\\Microsoft\\Windows\\CurrentVersion\\Run. If there is an entry for WIN-BUGSFIX, delete it.

Go to HKEY_CURRENT_USER->Software->Microsoft->Windows->CurrentVersion->Explorer->Doc Find Spec MRU. This entry contains all of the most recently used files. It is not 100% necessary to delete these entries, but it would be a good idea.

Open Windows Explorer (Start->Programs->Windows Explorer). Go to c:\\windows\\system (or c:\\winnt\\system32) and delete MSKernel32.vbs, LOVE-LETTER-FOR-YOU.HTM, and LOVE-LETTER-FOR-YOU.TXT.vbs. Also, delete Win32DLL.vbs from the Windows directory.

This is the most painful part. This virus replaces every file with the following file extensions: vbs, vbe, js, jse, css, wsh, sct, hta, jpg, jpeg. You can\'t get the files back, but you can at least delete them pretty easily. Also, all of your mp3\'s and mp2\'s were hidden, and a new file with the same name as the file, but with a .vbs extension, were created.
First a search for all files with the .vbs or .vbe extension (Start->Find and enter \'*.vbs *.vbe\' in the Named field, then click Find Now). Select all of the results, and hit delete.

I originally advocated also searching for a line of text within the file to test which files were corrupted. With all of the different versions of the virus now floating around, this is no longer effective. It now appears that the best method is to look for all of the files of the same size. If you do not see the size attribute in your search window, maximize the window. You should now be able to see the file size. While different versions of the virus are different file sizes, most are around 10k to 13k. The trick here is to find the most common file sizes. These should be the infected files.

Once you think you know the correct file size, select all of the files in the folder. Now weed out the good files. While holding the Ctrl key, click on any entries that you do NOT want to delete. Once you have weeded out the good files, you can delete them. Rather than just pressing the delete key, hold down Shift and the press delete. This way, the files will get completely deleted so you don\'t have to empty them from the Recycle bin later. If you are having problems deleting files, go back to Step 3 and repeat.

You should repeat this process for any hard drives on your machine and any network drives you are connected to.


Finally, you will need to do a search for a couple of other misc. files that may be on your machine now. Search for WIN-BUGSFIX.exe or WIN_BUGSFIX-32.exe (if you opened Internet Explorer after getting the bug) script.ini (if you use mIRC), and possibly WinFAT32.exe. If you have any of these two files, delete them.

When all of the files are deleted, it would be a good idea to empty your recycle bin.

You may need to do a little additional clean-up work on your system. I have just posted simple instructions on getting your MP3\'s back. I also now have the fix to problems with the contents of My Computer displaying correctly.
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Post by: EmperorRob on July 14, 2002, 07:39:26 PM
You\'re best bet is to clear out your Startup Folder, and if the problem persists check the microsoft help online.

You won\'t be able to fix it without their help as it is something stupid no one with a rational mind would do.
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Post by: SwifDi on July 14, 2002, 07:48:33 PM
Omen, I\'m trying that now...
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Post by: theomen on July 14, 2002, 07:49:24 PM
my last post, will work.
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Post by: SwifDi on July 14, 2002, 07:55:13 PM
By the way, Outlook is used by my dad, not I. I\'m looking at the task manager... Outlook isn\'t running.. but I also noticed that there are two things under Not Responding: Download and Msgsrv32.

????
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Post by: theomen on July 14, 2002, 08:00:09 PM
just proceed onto the regedit
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Post by: SwifDi on July 14, 2002, 08:22:02 PM
MSKernel32 - Win32DLL - WIN-BUGSFIX all weren\'t listed.

And while i was searching for MSKernel32.vbs my computer crashed.
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Post by: SwifDi on July 14, 2002, 08:28:22 PM
GOD DAMNIT. Man, my computer crashes everytime at c:\\windows\\system. Something is not letting me get there, I just closed a suspicious program called, "Download".
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Post by: theomen on July 14, 2002, 08:32:55 PM
it\'s just called "download"?
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Post by: SwifDi on July 14, 2002, 08:34:56 PM
yeah... and its always Not Responding... I can\'t get to c:\\windows\\system... Just non-stop crashing.
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Post by: theomen on July 14, 2002, 08:35:38 PM
don\'t go onto irc, the worm will spread.  When the worm executes, it will attempt to create a file named script.ini in any directory that contains certain files associated with the popular IRC client mIRC. The script file will attempt to send a copy of the worm via DCC to other people in any IRC channel joined by the victim. We encourage people to disable automatic reception of files via DCC in any IRC client.
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Post by: theomen on July 14, 2002, 08:37:52 PM
go here; http://www.cert.org/advisories/CA-2000-04.html

*edit* never mind, I read it, no help


*edit* try this fix tool; http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/fix.vbs.loveletter.html
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Post by: SwifDi on July 14, 2002, 08:43:42 PM
Says my computer is not affected by it.
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Post by: theomen on July 14, 2002, 08:47:33 PM
well shit...

*it may have been renamed
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Post by: SwifDi on July 14, 2002, 10:15:18 PM
So... how do you reformat a computer? :)
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Post by: SwifDi on July 14, 2002, 10:33:56 PM
I\'m serious.. This thing is a bitch. Seconds after I download Norton Antivirus 2003, the thing crashes, FOR THE SECOND TIME. I swear its like someone is watching me and won\'t let me do a god damn thing to destroy this worm. ARGHHGHH!HBHGHGHGHHH!HVHHGHGHGHGHFHFGHFHHR!!!!!RF SDKFJOWIER(T)@$#RT!

SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT!!!!!!
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Post by: shockwaves on July 14, 2002, 10:47:41 PM
Is there any sort of support line that came with your computer?  Maybe you should call that.
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Post by: SwifDi on July 14, 2002, 10:59:00 PM
Not a bad idea.... I may considerate that.

So, I haven\'t really re-formatted before... I have the boot disk, must I know every single device listed in device manager?
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Post by: shockwaves on July 14, 2002, 11:00:39 PM
You might do better to search on google or something for a site on reformatting
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Post by: theomen on July 14, 2002, 11:03:19 PM
a complete reformatting?

if so, just pop in your restore disk, restart, and viola
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Post by: shockwaves on July 14, 2002, 11:04:34 PM
Do you lose stuff on your hard drive when you do that?
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Post by: SwifDi on July 14, 2002, 11:06:45 PM
Dang, I didn\'t know it would be that easy.... Why does it take so long sometimes for people?
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Post by: theomen on July 14, 2002, 11:07:06 PM
yup, everything is back to how it was when you bought your comp.
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Post by: shockwaves on July 14, 2002, 11:08:21 PM
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Originally posted by \\/apor Snake
Dang, I didn\'t know it would be that easy.... Why does it take so long sometimes for people?


Probably because a lot of people don\'t want to lose everything on their hard drive, so they have to back up a lot of stuff first.
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Post by: SwifDi on July 14, 2002, 11:08:35 PM
Hell I don\'t mind that at all. I\'d only need to install necessities anyway, perhaps a fresh start would be for the best.
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Post by: theomen on July 14, 2002, 11:11:33 PM
backing up a comp that\'s infected with a virus isn\'t a good idea.  because you might reinfect yourself.
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Post by: shockwaves on July 14, 2002, 11:12:52 PM
I\'d hate losing everything.  700 MP3s down the drain :(  Not to mention all that porn...
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Post by: SwifDi on July 14, 2002, 11:13:44 PM
Well I\'m just writing a few important things down and I\'m gonna reboot it.
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Post by: shockwaves on July 14, 2002, 11:15:10 PM
Well, good luck.  I guess this might be the last we\'ll hear from you for the night.
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Post by: theomen on July 14, 2002, 11:15:56 PM
maybe forever....
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Post by: shockwaves on July 14, 2002, 11:17:26 PM
forever?  \\/apor Snake?  Not a chance.  He\'ll find a way to get back here :)
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Post by: SwifDi on July 14, 2002, 11:19:19 PM
Well I\'m one of those dumb people that can screw easy things up bad.
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Post by: theomen on July 14, 2002, 11:21:53 PM
just keep a fire extinguisher handy
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Post by: shockwaves on July 14, 2002, 11:24:14 PM
You have another computer to go to if this one...say...spontaneously combusts?
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Post by: SwifDi on July 14, 2002, 11:27:31 PM
I\'m scared... I need some encouragment here.... I don\'t have the nuts to do this...
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Post by: theomen on July 14, 2002, 11:28:51 PM
do it B!TCH!!!
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Post by: SwifDi on July 14, 2002, 11:31:42 PM
:laughing:  I know I was joking... I\'m gonna do it tomorrow morning though cuz\' I know if I start now I\'ll be up forever.
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Post by: theomen on July 14, 2002, 11:33:23 PM
seriously, it\'s very simple, I\'ve done it a bunch of times, on different comps.  There\'s no way to screw up.
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Post by: shockwaves on July 15, 2002, 12:23:14 AM
I hope we see him on here tomorrow.  I\'d be interested to see how it goes, incase I ever have to go through the same thing.
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Post by: SER on July 15, 2002, 02:27:54 AM
Good luck.
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Post by: theomen on July 15, 2002, 03:01:35 AM
if he\'s dialup, I hope he writes down his number.
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Post by: SwifDi on July 15, 2002, 02:39:50 PM
Well... It went off fine... I\'ve been doing it since 8 in the mornign and its 3 now. I got my internet stuff working.... Reinstalling the drivers is a pain in the ass.. I\'m not done though. I still have no sound and my color can\'t go higher that 16-colors, so i\'m still bumming.

Anyone know how to fix sound and color?
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Post by: SwifDi on July 15, 2002, 09:06:34 PM
Everything is back to 100%.

I would appreciate it greatly if someone could find me a good free virus scanner to download off the net.