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Playstation/Gaming Discussions => PS3 Discussion => Topic started by: seven on July 23, 2002, 10:52:55 PM
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...yep, finally received my PS2 Linux Kit! :bounce:
After having a view problems with the credit card (the Swiss banks don\'t give out any information about the user, which is needed to varify the purchase), I had to transfer the amount to the UK and get them to send to me. After almost 2 months of waiting, I finally got it on Monday.
Sure enough, the monitor I have didn\'t work at home (it\'s an old Compaq), so I had to take it to work yesterday and got it to work on my LCD. It\'s pretty damn cool...
Installing Linux is fairly easy and you can just follow the intructions in the manual. The hard bit actually comes once you have Linux running and you\'ve never used a UNIX-based OS before. But it\'s fun trying out things and experimenting with it. Can\'t wait to get started on the programming thing... :D
BTW: the BBA that comes with it, only has a network link (no 56k phoneplug)...
Well, here are two photos I took yesterday while setting it up. Enjoy. If anyone has any questions regarding the kit, don\'t hesitate to ask.
laters,
Phil
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thats pretty cool phil, i see that the mouse is chain linked to the keyboard~good idea IMO.
could you please just explain to me onething, when you put in the HDD and BBA how do they connect to eachother.
:)
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Woah, nice work Phillen. That\'s a lovely setup you have there. Except I don\'t see your pretty little self in the pictures ( :mad: :( )
Once you start making games make sure you fill us in on all about it. And if you plan on incorporating any pornography into your games (you sly dog you ;)) make sure you send \'em my way. :)
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Originally posted by Tyrant_246
thats pretty cool phil, i see that the mouse is chain linked to the keyboard~good idea IMO.
could you please just explain to me onething, when you put in the HDD and BBA how do they connect to eachother.
:)
Hum, well the HDD goes into that bay at the back. Before sliding it in though, you simply connect the HDD with the BBA. No wires, so you can connect them easily. Then once you slide it into the bay, the BBA connects to the plug at the PS2 (the one located just above the bay).
Originally posted by Bobs_hardware
Woah, nice work Phillen. That\'s a lovely setup you have there. Except I don\'t see your pretty little self in the pictures ( )
Once you start making games make sure you fill us in on all about it. And if you plan on incorporating any pornography into your games (you sly dog you ) make sure you send \'em my way.
Thanks bobo. haha, will do... :D Don\'t expect anything better than sprite-like naked women though.. at least until I really get around to mess around with the units that is. :D
BTW; the thing I\'ve been trying out yesterday is fairly cool. You can mount the memorycard slot with Linux and then you should be able to read files of it. This is done for example when you change the settings from SVGA to PAL or NTSC (so that you can run it on your TV). I already tried to read my other memorycard with the game saves on it, but while I can mount the drive, I can\'t see those files located on it. Perhaps I\'ll have to find other tools before I get to see any results... would be cool though to get those saves on Linux, mess around with them and/or send them over the internet.
Ha, I\'m still trying to download that GT3 save file from IGN, just to get the Diablo...!!! :)
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will this work with GAMES ?
i mean both the BBA and HDD ?
if so can you use it to store files for games ?
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That\'s awesome.
How powerful is the thing? Did Sony limit some of the power they would allow those kits to have, or can you actually make some games that take advantage of the system as if you were a real developer?
That\'s really cool man. I wanna start my own videogame company some day, heh, I just need to find some people who can program.
I\'d love to have one of those kits. Have fun. :)
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Impressive indeed.. I had the money to buy the kit a few months ago but then I found out you could not buy it via the creditcard :(
So I might get it over in the UK somehow. (My dad knows a few peps there)
Im really interested in it.
Btw, get the network thingy to work so you can download the tools at the official PS2 Linux site. Should be fun :)
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Orignially posted by ooseven
will this work with GAMES ?
i mean both the BBA and HDD ?
if so can you use it to store files for games ?
The BBA should work, unless you don\'t have broadband because the BBA that comes with the Linux Kit only has a broadband plug. The HDD does work - or lets say, some were able to get normal games running on their HDD. What you need to do is, get that utility-disc that comes with the normal consumer HDD unit and then run it on your PS2 linuxkit. That will reformat your hdd and set it up so that the PS2 will see and support it with the games. After that, you are free to install Linux on a secondary partition on the same HDD.
So it should work and yes it\'s doable. :)
Orignially posted by nataku
That\'s awesome.
How powerful is the thing? Did Sony limit some of the power they would allow those kits to have, or can you actually make some games that take advantage of the system as if you were a real developer?
That\'s really cool man. I wanna start my own videogame company some day, heh, I just need to find some people who can program.
I\'d love to have one of those kits. Have fun.
It\'s pretty powerful. I\'ve heard from trusted sources (developers) that the kit is almost as powerful as the kits that the devs get themselves. The main difference is that the T-1000 kits get all those librariers and hardware support for development while the Linuxkit remains pretty basic.
Also, games which you program do not run on linux. You program native PS2 executables which can be run without having Linux in the background.
Hey, if you\'re still serious about starting a videogame company in a few years.. let me know! :) I\'m pretty serious of getting into the game-development and I might go to America or the UK in a few years to gather experience. If you\'re heading that way too, a PS2 linux kit is definately the way to go..
Orignially posted by fastson
Impressive indeed.. I had the money to buy the kit a few months ago but then I found out you could not buy it via the creditcard
So I might get it over in the UK somehow. (My dad knows a few peps there)
Im really interested in it.
Btw, get the network thingy to work so you can download the tools at the official PS2 Linux site. Should be fun
Would be very cool if you could get it somehow. As for the network thing.. I\'m working on it. Now that I have it at home running on my old Amiga monitor (on PAL), everything is very fuzzy and there\'s a lot of flicker. I\'m still messing around with those settings as it really hurts your eyes if you sit infront of it for a while. I\'m even considering hooking it up to my laptop and do all the work there and then send the files over to the PS2 and have \'em executed there to test run. Or I might have to buy a neat (but expesive) LCD to match it... although that would be a bit pricy. :(
BTW; I messed around with the memorycards before and I have come to an interesting conclusion: I can read from the Linux-Memorycard without a problem and even see the PS2 config files with the command "LS". If I mount the other slot though and try to read the PS2 memorycard with the game saves, it\'s empty. I even tried copying one FF save on to the Linux Memorycard and then use the LS command to see what\'s on it. While it shows all the config files, the FF save is missing. So, game saves aren\'t displayed for some reason.. maybe I just don\'t have the right tools yet to read them... :confused:
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I was also checking if i could read my memorycard with savegames... In the end it was empty.. All my savegames was lost.. I don\'t know how this happened, but the problem is most certainly between the chair and the keyboard;) lol
So be carefull...
To those ppl who are thinking of buying the linux package:
* It won\'t turn your PS2 into a full fledged computer in the way you may be thinking. It\'s more like a developer tool. It has it\'s limitations as 32mb of ram don\'t quite cut it by todays standards. (that means you can\'t use KDE3 and Netscape for example as they would be way too slow for the machine.)
* The DVD drive won\'t recognize any disc\'s except original PS1 & PS2 CD\'s and DVD\'s. Not even original CD\'s and DVD movies (You can\'t play PS1 or PS2 games within linux either)
* You get all the documentation that regular developers get except details of the DVD drive and the various logical chips (sound, ps1 compatibility, etc.) This count\'s for over 1000 pages of computer written text delivered on the DVD as PDF files (Adobe Acrobat)
* If a said program/game is available for Linux, it\'s not given it\'s compatible with PS2-Linux. (PS2 uses the SGI MIPS Little Endian or mipsel for short. PC\'s uses ix86 wich is intels arcitecture)
Other arcitectures are mips (big endian), powerpc, alpha etc.
* It\'s a great way of learning yourself UNIX/Linux
* You have to have a monitor that supports \'Sync-on-green\' if you\'re going to use VGA mode.
I\'m not saying you should\'nt buy it, but I know for a fact that some ppl bought it on the grounds it would become their \'second computer\' and got the feeling they got ripped-off.
Keep in mind it\'s for a reason Sony is\'nt selling this in the regular shops beside the usual PS2 hardware....
-FluKe
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How much did that cost? I\'m pondering getting one after my PS2 gets repaired.
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I was also checking if i could read my memorycard with savegames... In the end it was empty.. All my savegames was lost.. I don\'t know how this happened, but the problem is most certainly between the chair and the keyboard lol
So be carefull...
LOL, thanks for the advice - I\'ll keep it in mind next time I tamper with my memorycards. Last time I checked, all my saves were still there (including my FFX save with well over 60 hours gameplay on it)... thank god. That would pretty much ruin my whole experience for months if that would happen to me...
The whole memorycard thing is strange though. I\'ll probably get myself a third one and back it up just to be on the safe side. Shouldn\'t be impossible to squeeze some data of it. :)
How much did that cost? I\'m pondering getting one after my PS2 gets repaired.
I think it\'s $199 US. For more information, check out:
http://www.linuxplay.com
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how can one acquire such a kit?
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Originally posted by "The One" Billy Gunn
how can one acquire such a kit?
one needs to acquire it over the internet. Check out link above and you\'ll find all the details needed there. :)
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I wanna buy one cause it includes everything, and over the next two years I\'llbe learning computer programming and computer science and I want something to use it on.
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Totally sweet. This is on my budget right underneath prostitutes.
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So, is there an application you can use to create games with the kit???
Can you copy the engine of a game and just replace the textures????
Can you use other aps like Maya and import the 3-d models???
Please explain to me how you can use the Linux kit to make games. or do you need another program????