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Title: Can some one help me out here?
Post by: Bossieman on July 26, 2002, 01:14:52 PM
I´m doing som maths repetion and I cant get some things right here.
Prove:

If A=(x+y+z)/3
and G=(xyz)^(1/3)

Then prove that G=
I can´t find the ****ing proof!!!
Any one here that can kil this bitch???

BTW, x,y,z are all >0
Title: Can some one help me out here?
Post by: politiepet on July 26, 2002, 03:39:05 PM
yeah well, life\'s a b1tch!
Title: Re: Can some one help me out here?
Post by: theomen on July 26, 2002, 03:56:29 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Bossieman
I´m doing som maths repetion and I cant get some things right here.
Prove:

If A=(x+y+z)/3
and G=(xyz)^(1/3)

Then prove that G=
I can´t find the ****ing proof!!!
Any one here that can kil this bitch???



not sure what you need for proof, but if we give each letter a numeric value, it all works out.

example;
x=1
y=2
z=3

A=(1+2+3)/3
G=(1x2x3)^(1/3)

A=6/3
G=6/3

A=2
G=2

this probably doesn\'t help at all, because you probably need a theory of some sorts for proof.
Title: Can some one help me out here?
Post by: Tyrant on July 26, 2002, 11:34:57 PM
well one way i can think of this is;
A=(x+y+z)/3
G=cube root of (x*y*z)
now let x=y=z=1;
we get;
A=3/3=1
G=cube root of (1)=1
hence A=G

probably wrong:p but its been a while since i have done anything other than trig., integration and differnciation.
:)
Title: Re: Re: Can some one help me out here?
Post by: Seed_Of_Evil on July 27, 2002, 02:14:29 AM
Quote
Originally posted by theomen

A=(1+2+3)/3
G=(1x2x3)^(1/3)

A=6/3
G=6/3

A=2
G=2


theomen 1/3 is not 3. It\'s 0\'3333333.....

so:
A= 2
G= 1,817
Title: Can some one help me out here?
Post by: Tyrant on July 27, 2002, 04:32:41 AM
edit ~
Title: Can some one help me out here?
Post by: Kenshin on July 27, 2002, 04:38:44 AM
E=mc sqaured

....

....

All your base are belong to us :laughing:
Title: Can some one help me out here?
Post by: Avatarr on July 27, 2002, 08:14:42 AM
AHAHAAHHAH What a ripper. Looks like a bit of multi variable mathematical induction.. if thats the proper term. The inductoin problems I\'m used to only have a single variable; which makes it a bit simpler. I had a bit of trouble trying to get the two damn equations to look like each other, so I\'ll conveniently change the sign from <= to < :) Hope u don\'t mind.

prove,
(xyz)^1/3 < (x+y+z)/3

assume x = 1, y = 2, z = 3,
(1.2.3)^1/3 < (1+2+3)/3
1.8 (2dp) < 2
therefore x = 1, y = 2, z = 3 is true

assume x = k, y = l, y = m is true
prove true for x = k+1, y = l+1, y = m+1,
((k+1)(l+1)(m+1))^1/3 < (k+1+l+1+m+1)/3
(klm+kl+km+k+lm+m+1)^1/3 < (k+l+m+3)/3
(k(lm+l+m+1)+l(m+1)+m+1)^1/3 < (k+l+m)/3 + 1  

disregard 1, since it becomes insignficant as k,l,m --> infinity

(k(lm+l+m+1)+l(m+1)+m+1)^1/3 < (k+l+m)/3
3.(k(lm+l+m+1)+l(m+1)+m+1)^1/3 < k+l+m

and from that you can see that for,
A = (x+y+z)/3
G = (xyz)^1/3
G < A
for x >= 1, y >=2, z >=3
or whatever......

Its currently 2:03am and I am very sleepy, so I might have boobed somewhere.
Title: Can some one help me out here?
Post by: Avatarr on July 27, 2002, 08:28:57 AM
HAHAHAhA, I\'m such an idiot. It was just a matter of simple eyeballing; for A = G. Lewk!

(xyz)^1/3 = (x+y+z)/3
cube both sides
(xyz) = (x+y+z)^3/27
27(xyz) = (x+y+z)^3

so then u realise if each variable was 1
the left hand side would be 27 x 1
the right hand side would be 3^3 which is 27!!
SO IT WORKS! if x=y=z=1 !!!
Lewk,

(1.1.1)^1/3 = (1+1+1)/3

but if each variable has to unique.... the question is ****ed....
Title: Can some one help me out here?
Post by: Eiksirf on July 27, 2002, 11:35:02 AM
Well A is an average of x, y, and z, so you just have to prove the cube root of them is always equal to or less than their average.

Maybe that helps?

Obviously, if the variables are all the same, the average and cube root are equal so A = G.  So it\'s just a matter of proving that if they\'re different (2, 4, 6) the average (4) is always less than the cube root (3.6) Hmm... nevermind.

-Eik
Title: Can some one help me out here?
Post by: shockwaves on July 27, 2002, 12:14:49 PM
Well, since it was proving that the average (4) is greater than the cube root (3.6), and not the other way around, that sounds good so far.

:)
Title: Can some one help me out here?
Post by: PS2_-'_'-_PS2 on July 27, 2002, 04:05:57 PM
o shit, i really shoudn\'t be doing higher math nxt year :(
Title: Re: Re: Re: Can some one help me out here?
Post by: theomen on July 27, 2002, 04:31:44 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Adan


theomen 1/3 is not 3. It\'s 0\'3333333.....

so:
A= 2
G= 1,817


I know 1/3 isn\'t 3, but if you multiply by 1/3 is the same as dividing by 3.

6*1/3= 2
6/3 =2

instead of six times one third, think of it as six times one, over three.

6*(1/3)= (6*1)/3
Title: Can some one help me out here?
Post by: Avatarr on July 27, 2002, 06:16:28 PM
Ah yes.. but 6*1/3 is not 6^1/3, the hat (^) denotes power.
So my name should really be Avatarr^, cuz I have POWER :evil:

:)
Title: Can some one help me out here?
Post by: Bossieman on July 28, 2002, 07:24:05 AM
I hate this problem, I dont know how to break it down
Title: Can some one help me out here?
Post by: Titan on July 28, 2002, 10:46:18 AM
I don\'t either. I suck at math.
Title: Can some one help me out here?
Post by: Avatarr on July 28, 2002, 07:20:16 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Bossieman
I hate this problem, I dont know how to break it down


so my solution was wrong? :( :(