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Playstation/Gaming Discussions => Gaming Discussion => Topic started by: CS2x on July 26, 2002, 06:55:57 PM
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I admire a lot of people here, but can\'t understand why many of them hate Nintendo, or at least, can\'t see why they are a great company on the whole (bar a few stupid mistakes they have made in the past)
I think it\'s very childish and silly personally...I can just about understand why some people hate Microsoft (I mean, I use Windows XP which is an utter pain in the arse) but even that is stupid.
Nintendo make great games, and they were around way before Sony came stomping into the console entertainment zone and made it "cool" to play videogames. And, Nintendo were mostly honest about the Gamecube, unlike Sony, who declared the PS2 to be "the future of videogaming" and claimed it had "Toy Story" graphics.
I own a Dreamcast, PS2, and a GC. And yes, the PS2 is a great console. But so is the GC, and how anyone could hate Nintendo escapes my mind...they formed many fond gaming memories from my childhood, and still make argubly the best games.
Before any of you Nintendo haters try and put Sony above them next time, remember one thing: Nintendo has always been about games. Sony Hasn\'t.
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Pretty good post.
Can\'t wait for the backlash.
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I don\'t understand either.. but eh.. to each their own. I hate Nintnedo as a company, but I don\'t have a problem with their games. Usually their games are pretty fun.. even if a bit cartoony and *gasp* family oriented.
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IMO, you have to have owned an N64 and enjoyed it thoroughly to understand why people still trust Nintendo.
One who was brought up on Playstation alone prolly wouldn\'t get it. I can understand that. If one looks into the N64\'s life-cycle, it looks rather desolate. Oh, look, Mario Party.. Banjo-Kazooie.. Paper Mario.. kiddy kiddy!
If you actually played several of the dozens of Nintendo/Rare games on N64 through, you\'d see that many of them are fun.. and many of them are extremely fun. Many that the mainstream shrugged off.. are classics.
It\'s a similar situation with Sega, except that their 32-bit Saturn failed commercially.
Otherwise, same thing. If you didn\'t own the system or "get into it", you aren\'t going to understand the appeal.
You aren\'t going to "get" why people such as myself bought a GameCube.
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*coke mode on*
Well everyone hates it because it doesnt have a DVD or the capability to play cds. They also try to BRAIN WASH YOU! Nintendo sucks and has always sucks. Pure gaming? Yeah right. Nintendo really sucks alot.
*Coke mode off*
I really dont see why people hate nintendo either. I personally love GC also.......but so many others hate it. It just confuses me. Is it because im a kid?
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I\'m 18 and I like my gamecube.. i\'ll like it alot more this fall though :)
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Yea, anyone who knows anything about the Cube seems to like it. Whether they buy one or not is a different story.
-Eik
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I own only one console that is currently developed for, the Gamecube. I chose it over PS2 because Nintendo had never let me down before. For me, it wasn\'t important to have a new game out every couple weeks. I buy maybe 5 or 6 a year, if that. For my, the Gamecube is perfect. I have loved many of the games, and there seem to be great ones on the way.
I agree though, how someone can hate Nintendo the way some people here do amazes me. They haven\'t done anything so awful if you ask me. Some people just seem perhaps a bit insecure with their maturity or something, and don\'t like the idea of endorsing a system that some see as a "kiddy" console. That\'s what I make of it anyway.
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Nintendo make great games, and they were around way before Sony came stomping into the console entertainment zone and made it "cool" to play videogames. And, Nintendo were mostly honest about the Gamecube, unlike Sony, who declared the PS2 to be "the future of videogaming" and claimed it had "Toy Story" graphics.
Woah, now hold it there buddy. Nintendo more honest than Sony about their specs? Please, what exactly did Nintendo do or say anyway? They kept their specs in the dark more than any other company. At least everyone knows what the PS2 has inside it thanks to Sony actually publishing the "real" specs. But if you call "saying nothing" more honest... what ever. I certainly don\'t.
And no one hates Nintendo. Really, I might be sceptical about their future, but I still respect them for what they are. While I might not respect Microsoft and to a certain extend Xbox, I certainly do not hate that console either.
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Originally posted by seven
Woah, now hold it there buddy. Nintendo more honest than Sony about their specs? Please, what exactly did Nintendo do or say anyway? They kept their specs in the dark more than any other company. At least everyone knows what the PS2 has inside it thanks to Sony actually publishing the "real" specs. But if you call "saying nothing" more honest... what ever. I certainly don\'t.
And no one hates Nintendo. Really, I might be sceptical about their future, but I still respect them for what they are. While I might not respect Microsoft and to a certain extend Xbox, I certainly do not hate that console either.
I was refering to the fact that Nintendo revealed the GC specs more closely to how they would perform in game, while the PS2 specs are raw polygons per seconds.
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I don\'t recall hearing Nintendo go , " our system can deliver Toy STORY quality graphics " . ;)
Personally, I was let down by the N64 but I gave the NGC a chance and I\'m happy with it so far.
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Hmmm, my first real console was the 8 bit MasterSystem
by Sega. Years later I had the N64, apart form some very
cool games I felt letdown by Nintendo always ranting on
about how superior it\'s N64 was over the PSX. Well, now
I have a PS2 and I\'m fine with it. If I had the money... I\'d
certainly give the Gamecube a try though.
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Interesting note, a while back I found a press release from 1999 of Toshiba heralding their newly developed GS for PS2 touting it as being able to render ‘Toy Story Like\' graphics in real time. Maybe some talking head at Sony picked up that comment and ran with it for a while, doesn\'t mean much to me either way. What I do remember prior to the Japanese launch was seeing movies from TGS of MGS2, Kessen, The Bouncer, and thinking they all looked pretty damn cool. I think it\'s silly someone could still fell burned about the ‘Toy Story\' jive and that Sony has somehow tricked 30,000,000 people into buying their console :p
And also for what it\'s worth, going by a few clips I\'ve seen just lately, the models used in Toy Story seemed to have almost no textures ;)
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That\'s exactly what I\'ve been thinking. I mean, I\'ve got the DVD of the first Toy Story (well, my sister owns it, really) and sure it might look damn good, but if you really get down to it, it\'s not all that impressive. The PS2 can do real time toy story graphics - maybe just not in an actual game scenario. But then again, until the console maxes out, you, I or anyone in here won\'t know for sure how good things can get.
Come to think of it, wasn\'t it just more the press that hyped up the PS2 to what it could have been rather than Sony who just showed of those "incredible" specs?
Either way, Nintendo hasn\'t said all that much about specs at all when speaking of their console. I wonder why though... Maybe because it\'s just nothing all that special... (not intended as a bash). Oh and CS2x, don\'t take those estimates from Nintendo too seriously. Their not fact, but just estimates of what Nintendo thinks is achievable on their console. I wouldn\'t even call it specs, because their just... well estimates and nothing more.
EDIT: something I\'d like to add on:
raw numbers == fact
ingame scenario == estimate
As a customer, I sure know which one I\'d be more interested in...
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Raw numbers = waste of time.
Estimate = waste of time.
Actual gameplay? Judge for yourself.
Specs shouldn\'t mean anything. Judge by what\'s available, that makes the most sense.
Sure, this system COULD do this, but it doesn\'t. Here\'s what it DOES do. Take it or leave it.
-Eik
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I\'m telling you, if Sony wasn\'t in the picture, I\'d own a Gamecube right now.
And I still laugh when someone says the PSX was better than the 64... dangit... shouldn\'t have ever brought it up....
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yet the PSX > n64
*slap*
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MM = correct, IMHO.
However, N64 is not nearly as bad as people make it out to be around here..
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yeah, mario64 was hella fun (till i beat it, then shunned it to a dark and dusty death, kinda like halo)
that other game was fun too, ummmm, it was called, errrrrr, nevermind, im thinking of a PSX game
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Case and point!
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how someone can hate Nintendo the way some people here do amazes me. They haven\'t done anything so awful if you ask me.
Nintendo have performed business practices in the past that would make M$ cringe. That\'s why people can hate them. <<<--- What SonyFan is referring to me thinks
However if you hate them for being kiddy, then i can not see why :)
Oh and, PSX > N64 :)
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I say that PSX > N64 simply due to quantity and variety of games.
Th\' N64 has 250 games.. the PSX has well over 1000. That kinda evens out the whole quality/quantity deal.
Even so, I feel that the N64 had an impressive lineup that\'s quite underrated.
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yeah, i guess two zelda games were cool, and i forgot mario kart 64
but seriously, the N64 might have had 10 A+ titles altogether when the PSX had 10x that number
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So the PSX had 100 A+ titles. Can you tell me some? ;)
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if i had the time and cared enough to please you
i could easily produce 100 A+ PSX titles
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Hey, whatever.. I can see you didn\'t bother to try the majority of the good N64 games.
No need to back up your argument because you don\'t seem to have one.. ol\' buddy. ;)
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blade, it would help if u defined whom you were speaking to
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Who else in here has known me long enough to be considered an "old buddy"?
Sheesh. Lay off of the crack, ol\' buddy!
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Sorry mm, but imho, you are wrong.;)
The N64 had loads of good, no, amazingly good games (for it\'s time)
Goldeneye
Mario 64
Mario Party 1+2+3 (well, I loved them for multiplayer sessions)
Super Smash Brothers
the two ZELDAS
Jet Force Gemmini
Perfect Dark
Mario Kart 64
Starfox 64
Pilotwings 64
Banjoe games
Donky Kong 64 was a laugh too
Conkers Bad Fur was ridiculous but actually had some great gamplay
oh, and I quite liked Turok, but that\'s just me....
imo, all the PSX had was Metal Gear, Final Fantasy, Grand Turismo, Ape Escape and Tekken....and all their NUMEROUS (apart from Ape Escape) sequels.
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of course this is all personal preference, so no point argueing that, but if you ask the opinion of the majority of gamers, they\'ll say psx had way more good titles
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indeed, cs2x is in the minority
psx > n64
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Originally posted by mm
indeed, cs2x is in the minority
psx > n64
In the minoroty in THIS forum, but in many multi-format forums (for example Edge Online) most people agree that the N64, overall, had better games.
It\'s all about opinion I suppose....but, mm, care to mention WHY psx>n64? You don\'t seem to give a reason...:)
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i told you
PSX had more A+ titles (and a superior controller), that is why PSX > n64
thru sheer numbers alone, the PSX had more A+ titles
it embarrising for anyone to think otherwise, even blade agrees, and he has nintendo tatooed on his left ass cheek
remember nintendo\'s moto "quality over quantity" :rolleyes:
perhaps if they didnt charge 15$ for thier proprietary carts, they would have had more titles
basically they screwed themselves by staying proprietary, WAIT A MINUTE! they still do!
:)
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Originally posted by mm
i told you
PSX had more A+ titles (and a superior controller), that is why PSX > n64
thru sheer numbers alone, the PSX had more A+ titles
it embarrising for anyone to think otherwise, even blade agrees, and he has nintendo tatooed on his left ass cheek
remember nintendo\'s moto "quality over quantity" :rolleyes:
perhaps if they didnt charge 15$ for thier proprietary carts, they would have had more titles
basically they screwed themselves by staying proprietary, WAIT A MINUTE! they still do!
:)
OK, I know you said psx had more A+ games, but I want you to name them...or at least, tell me more of them then I said about the N64...
btw-I\'m not saying the N64 is better than the PSX at all-the PSX had far more GOOD games, but I just feel the N64 had more amazing games, if you get me.:)
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define amazing?
like i said, i couldnt be bothered to list 100 A+ titles or ever 20, but im sure youll find very few people to say there wasnt, and even less to say that the N64 had more
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N64 was an utter dissapointment. Framerates were terrible. Graphics were flat and blurred to hell. PSX was the only good system that generation. Sure, the N64 had some good titles, but nothing like the PSX had.
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Originally posted by Watchdog
N64 was an utter dissapointment. Framerates were terrible. Graphics were flat and blurred to hell. PSX was the only good system that generation. Sure, the N64 had some good titles, but nothing like the PSX had.
What? Hello Zelda? That is one of my, and many others, favorite game of all time. Metal Gear may be more mature, but it has about an eigth of the gameplay...nice pretty cutscenes, mind...
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Originally posted by CS2x
What? Hello Zelda? That is one of my, and many others, favorite game of all time. Metal Gear may be more mature, but it has about an eigth of the gameplay...nice pretty cutscenes, mind...
What?:smokin: :thepimp: :alien:
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Arr, what do you all know.
n64>psx
I owned both, and I got a lot more use out of the 64. There were tons of titles that I thought were great, but were overlooked on the 64.
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I would also like to smack WatchDog for saying that the PSX was the only good system last generation. HELLO? The SATURN? It may of not been a commercial success, but it had more than its fair share of AAA games.
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CS2x, to even think you might be in the majority just because a few "multi-format" forums is really sad. Just looked at sales numbers alone and maybe you\'ll notice for yourself, why the PSX flatout outsold the N64. But yeah, you\'re right... "we" are in the minority I guess... :rolleyes:
I can understand how a Nintendo fan would prefer his systems over others, but leave the "minority" out of it.
btw-I\'m not saying the N64 is better than the PSX at all-the PSX had far more GOOD games, but I just feel the N64 had more amazing games, if you get me.
The above arguement should have settled this, but I will list some of the games that I feel were good.
*HELL YES, I\'M BORED... so here it goes:
- Ace Combat 2 (was pretty good, IMHO, rating were also quite good)
- Ace Combat 3
- Ape Escape
- Bushido Blade
- Bust a Groove
- Carnage Heart
- Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
- Chrono Cross
- Civilization 2
- Colin McRae Rally
- Colin McRae Rally 2.0
- Colony Wars
- Colony Wars Red..
- Command & Conquer: Red Alert (might have been bad to play with the controller, still a great game)
- Crash Bandicoot (first of its kind, fun entertaining game)
- Crash Bandicoot 2
- Crash Bandicoot 3 (rehash, still a good game none the less)
- Crash Team Racing (some of the few fun racers on PSX)
- Dead or Alive (compared to slow Tekken, this pretty good: IMO better than Tekken 3)
- Dino Crisis
- Dino Crisis 2
- Die Hard Trilogy
- Driver
- Einhänder (nice shooter)
- Fear Effect
- Fifa games (to many to list)
- Final Fantasy Anthology
- Final Fantasy Chronicles
- Final Fantasy IX
- Final Fantasy Tactics
- Final Fantasy VII
- Final Fantasy VIII
- Forsaken (I liked this game a lot)
- G-Police (very cool futuristic fighter sim)
- Gran Turismo
- Gran Turismo 2
- Grandia
- Legacy of Kain: Soul Reaver
- Madden series
- Medal of Honor
- Medal of Honor Underground
- MediEvil I
- MediEvil II
- Metal Gear Solid
- Moto Racer 2
- Need for Speed
- Need for Speed 3: Hot Pursuit
- Need for Speed 4: High Stakes
- Need for Speed: Porsche Unleashed
- Nightmare creatures II
- Nuclear Strike (I loved this one.. reminded me of Desert Strike on Amiga)
- Oddworld
- Parappa da Rapper
- Quake II
- Ridge Racer
- Ridge Racer 4
- RC Stund Copter (okay, not really a "game", but quite a cool helicopter sim)
- Resident Evil (& Directors Cut)
- Resident Evil 2
- Resident Evil 3: Nemesis
- Silent Hill
- Spyro the Dragon (nice Platformer)
- Star Ocean: TSS
- Street fighet...
- Suikoden
- Suikoden II
- Syphon Filter
- Syphon Filter 2
- Tekken 2
- Tekken 3
- Tenchu
- Tenchu II
- Time Crisis
- Tomb Raider
- Tomb Raider II
- Tomb Raider III
- Tomb Raider: last Revelation
- Tomba! (1&2)
- Tony Hawk\'s Pro Skater
- Tony Hawk\'s Pro..2
- Tony Hawk\'s Pro..3
- Wipeout 2097
- Wip3out
- V-Rally
- V-Rally 2
- Xenogears
87 titles I listed here - some are arguable, some I didn\'t even bother listing. The sad truth is, most games I\'ve listed here, don\'t even have a counterpart on the N64. If anyone wants to add to this list - feel free, although I think that should really settle this arguement.
Oh and for what it\'s worth: I made that list with a friend and we checked through the scores it received from various sites and magazines. Most of them are games with over a 85% rating.
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All those games are good (some are very questionable though, especially Crash and Tomb Raider, which I hate) but IMHO, not one can match the magic of Zelda.
Maybe I\'m just an ond-fashioned gamer, and my tastes are different to many here...after all, who else\'s favorite PS2 game is Rez or Ico?
In this generation, the PS2 currently offers the best choice admittedly...but I can tell now, as soon as SMS arrives, my PS2 will (for the first time) begin to gather lots of dust :D
(and yes, I have played it)
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Personally, I think FFVII is the all time greatest... but FFX comes damn close of topping it. :) Hmm, admittedly (sp?) I haven\'t played neither Rez or ICO, but I sure will once I get a chance to...
Oh and enjoy SMS when you get it... I wouldn\'t mind getting it myself, but I unfortunately don\'t own a GameCube.. but who knows, maybe I\'ll add one to my collection some time.. :D
*just noticed you forgot to list Mario Tennis on your list.. that was one hell of a fun party game ;)
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Personally I got a lot more enjoyment out of my N64, despite my being a veritable PSX fanboy, for the few years I had one before finally shelling out for an N64.
Wave Race 64
Mario 64
Pilotwings 64
Goldeneye
Mario Tennis
Mario Golf
OoT
Majora\'s Mask
Conker\'s...
Perfect Dark
The real, surviving stand-outs of my PSX stuff are probably Abe\'s Oddysee and Wipeout 2097 (among MGS, FFVII et al). And I never really returned to them like I have with the N64.
I think there\'s a more juvenile mentality clocking over when the \'maturity\' of Nintendo is considered such a huge deal. A large part of it is simply self-consciousness, and nothing to do with the actual quality of the game.
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I owned a saturn before my PSX. I loved it, but the public didn\'t.
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What\'s amazing is seven didnt even list all of the games.. where the **** is Vagrant Story!?! You don\'t get 40/40 from Famitsu for nothing, friend. No Final Fantasy IX.. no Rage Racer (altogether better than any of the other Ridge Racer games)
PSX had more AMAZING games as well. Some of the games you listed werent even as good as 3/4 of the games listed by seven. In fact, I can count only 5 games you listed that could really be considered AMAZING. Goldeneye, Perfect Dark, Ocarina of Time, Majoras Mask and Mario64. PSX had far more. I guess it is opinion, but your games listed were FAR outweighed by the PSX games listed.
Puh, I recently got out of a debate at a Nintendo forum that Square on the PSX were > Nintendo on the N64.. go figure :)
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The Saturn had amazing titles the competition couldn\'t touch. Or in some cases, couldn\'t even handle.
Especially for importers...
True versions of Capcom\'s Vs series.
Dungeons & Dragons Collection
Panzer Dragoon Saga
Guardian Heroes
Superior versions of all 2-D Capcom games
Superior controller
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Originally posted by Bobs_Hardware
What\'s amazing is seven didnt even list all of the games.. where the **** is Vagrant Story!?! You don\'t get 40/40 from Famitsu for nothing, friend. No Final Fantasy IX.. no Rage Racer (altogether better than any of the other Ridge Racer games)
PSX had more AMAZING games as well. Some of the games you listed werent even as good as 3/4 of the games listed by seven. In fact, I can count only 5 games you listed that could really be considered AMAZING. Goldeneye, Perfect Dark, Ocarina of Time, Majoras Mask and Mario64. PSX had far more. I guess it is opinion, but your games listed were FAR outweighed by the PSX games listed.
Puh, I recently got out of a debate at a Nintendo forum that Square on the PSX were > Nintendo on the N64.. go figure :)
Each unto his own...go to http://forum.edge-online.com and try to tell that to people there.
One reason why Nintendo is disliked is because of the "kiddy" argument, which is ironic because the people are being self-concious and juvenile themselves when they talk about Nintendo in this light. I\'m 17, and quite frankly, I couldn\'t care less what people think of me enjoying Nintendo games.
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CS2x, while IYourHM no game can match Zelda\'s magic there are more than a few who think it wasn\'t even very good. Discounting those I\'ve heard bitch about it on forums like this, I have a nephew (he was about 16 at the time) who found Zelda cool at the beginning of the game but thought it really boring and repetitive for the most part. His choice of best game ever is Legends of Dragoon, the Zeldas on N64 aren\'t even in the running. Other PSX games on seven\'s list people have chosen repeatedly as best game ever are;
Ape escape
Chrono Cross
FF7(#1 to many by a wide margin) 8&9 also
FF Tactics
GT, certainly best racer ever to a mast majority
Tomb Raider
Xenogears
there are more but you should understand Zelda just doesn\'t cut it for everyone who has played it. You hate Tomb Raider? Come on, even most people who hate the series will admit the original was great. Hate for Crash just makes it embarrassingly obvious you\'re in love with Mario and what you really hate is the idea a well done rip off became wildly popular.
A few biggies seven didn\'t list;
Armored Core
Brave Fencer Musashi
Breath of Fire III&IV
Diablo
Jet Moto series
Klona (hard to find but an all time favorite among many who\'ve played)
MDK
Parasite Eve 1&2
Rayman
Twisted Metal
WarCraft
Wild Arms 1&2
BTW, you would be surprised how many people list ICO as the best game ever, not just for PS2. The game has a cult status over at IGN and to me it\'s well deserved.
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No, my hatred for Crash doesn\'t show I in love with Mario at all. Those games were just poorly designed imo, even though they did push the PSX technically. They simply bored me.
I\'ll admit the first Tomb Raider was great though...but then it got boring and they over-did the franchise.
I\'ll admit I\'m in the minoroty definately with this one, but yes, I disliked all the Final Fintasies after 7....
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Tis true, The Saturn is better than PSX and N64, especially if you like decent to classic fighting games. The amount of import games I have on my Saturn is almost as many games as I have on PSX and N64 combined. Plus where else could you play the innovative or just outright fun games by Sega? Panzer Dragoon series, Virtua Fighter 2, Deep Fear, Dragon Force, Sakura Taisen 1 and 2, NiGHTS, Virtual On, Sega Rally Championship, World Series 98, etc.
Not to mention 3rd party efforts like XMen vs. SF, XMen: COTA, Marvel Superheroes, Resident Evil, Duke Nukem 3D, Tomb Raider, Saturn Bomberman, etc.
That said PSX > N64 by a large margin. That quality over quantity is crap, especially when the competition has roughly the same good to crap ratio as you, but with 5 times as many games. Sure N64 had it\'s Goldeneye, but PSX had it\'s Medal of Honor. Great games came out all the time for PSX, for N64, you would wait half a year for a gem to come out. Anyone who says N64 is better than PSX didn\'t own a PSX or didn\'t play more than a few of it\'s games. Does N64 have anything to match Twisted Metal 2? Medal of Honor? Grandia? fighting games? RPGs? sports games? etc,etc,etc!
Eric Jacob
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I hate all FF after 7 too (probably even earlier).
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That said PSX > N64 by a large margin.
there\'s the definitive decision right there folks, cause altered said so, and i concur
:)
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I don\'t dick around with my opinions :)
Eric Jacob
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*note the use of the word dick
:p
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Aaahhh well. I suppose this is mainly a PS2 forum....
I don\'t mind if people prefer the PSX\'s games, but please do not start talking about sales...after all, the Dreamcast had the best games in the 128 bit generation and look what happened to that! Plus, the N64 came almost two years later...
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even in a N64 forum, any rational person would tell you the PSX had more A+ titles
the numbers cant be disputed
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Originally posted by mm
even in a N64 forum, any rational person would tell you the PSX had more A+ titles
the numbers cant be disputed
I already admitted my PSX had more good games, but like I said, PERSONALLY, I think that not one PSX game (except maybe MGS, but that was too short and had too many videoclips for my liking) could match up to Mario 64 or Zelda. But that\'s just my opinion.
The PSX was a better all round console. It had more fighting and driving games. But IMO, nothing on it matched Zelda or Mario. OK? :)
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that IS yer opinion and yer entitled to it, i suppose
for ME, personally, zelda was boring as poop (rpg for kids)
mario64 had absolute zero replay value
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Originally posted by mm
that IS yer opinion and yer entitled to it, i suppose
for ME, personally, zelda was boring as poop (rpg for kids)
mario64 had absolute zero replay value
:eek:
You\'re so going to burn in hell for those comments.
:D
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why? it wasnt the lack of violence that made zelda 64 too juvenile for me. it was the lack of depth. it was the lack of a compelling reason to play it.
noone can honestly say they enjoyed playing thru mario64 a second time. it was tedious enough the 1st time to get all the stars
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Originally posted by mm
why? it wasnt the lack of violence that made zelda 64 too juvenile for me. it was the lack of depth. it was the lack of a compelling reason to play it.
noone can honestly say they enjoyed playing thru mario64 a second time. it was tedious enough the 1st time to get all the stars
I was just teasin\' ya, MM. ;)
Still, I can\'t say I didn\'t enjoy Zelda 64 or Mario 64 a lot, because I personally, loved \'em. I never did play Majora\'s Mask and I\'m starting to regret missing out on it.
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I will have to agree with mm, there. Except I didn\'t even get around to beating Mario 64, it bored me to tears after about 65 stars!
Zelda was a poor man\'s adventure game. The story and gameplay was dull, much like the first half of Shenmue.
CS2x - what game on N64 is as good as Twisted Metal 2, Medal of Honor (1 player), or Street Fighter Alpha 3? It\'s all relative.
Eric Jacob
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I too am in agreement about Zelda--it is waaaay overrated.
Mario64 is a great game though.
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I admit Zelda:OoT didn\'t live up to the previous 2D versions, but I still thought it was a great game in its own right. Each to their own though. ;)
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Originally posted by AlteredBeast
I will have to agree with mm, there. Except I didn\'t even get around to beating Mario 64, it bored me to tears after about 65 stars!
Zelda was a poor man\'s adventure game. The story and gameplay was dull, much like the first half of Shenmue.
CS2x - what game on N64 is as good as Twisted Metal 2, Medal of Honor (1 player), or Street Fighter Alpha 3? It\'s all relative.
Eric Jacob
Twised Metal is a fun mulitplayer game, but then, so is Mario Pary or Mario Kart. Medal Of Honor is great, but so is Goldeneye. And you do have a point with Street Fighter.....but the N64 did have a vital absence of fighting/driving games...then again, that\'s what I bought a PSX for...
mm, I know Mario 64 has no replayability, but then, most games don\'t for me...Onece I\'ve done it, I\'ve done it...and that includes shorties like Luigis Mansion or MGS2.;)
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but every other mario title had hella replayability, no?
i cant even count the times ive played thru super mario world on the SNES
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To each his own, MM.
As I\'ve said in the past, I played SM64 through several times.. although not directly after completing it the first time. "Hella" replayability? Nah.. not as much as SMW. It is fun to replay if you\'re not burned out on it though.
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i guess i could only stand to hear "i got it!" in that little gay mario voice so many times, uGh