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Title: fat people
Post by: Animal Mother on July 30, 2002, 06:16:33 PM
Since america seems to be going after "big Fat" (after big tobacco) Which I read in time magazine, I was wondering which one of you PS2 central members are fat? I\'m not.
Title: fat people
Post by: theomen on July 30, 2002, 06:23:18 PM
I\'m not, but that\'s only because I\'m a health freak.  I eat right workout ALL the f*cking time, and thanks to that, have a very sad life....

I have to say that it is very easy to become fat, especially here in the US.
Title: fat people
Post by: Kimahri on July 30, 2002, 06:27:37 PM
I used to be:)

In the past half a year or so I have lost about thirty pounds.  The bulk of that i lost over the summer.

I cant explain how great it feels to be at a healthy weight after being overweight for pretty much my whole life.
Title: fat people
Post by: mm on July 30, 2002, 06:38:20 PM
only in america would they make a big deal out of this

:rolleyes:

in some cultures, obesity is a sign of good health

Self improvement is masturbation. Now self destruction, that may be the answer.
-Tyler Durden
Title: fat people
Post by: Kimahri on July 30, 2002, 06:40:19 PM
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Originally posted by mm
in some cultures, obesity is a sign of good health


Ya well someone should tell them that they are way off.:rolleyes:
Title: fat people
Post by: mm on July 30, 2002, 06:48:26 PM
hey everyone\'s gonna die sometime

let them be fat and die happy
perhaps some fat mofo will stop eating his big mac for a second while he walks by yer carcass that got hit by a bus while you were out jogging

we ALL have some defect we wish we could change, no?
Title: fat people
Post by: Kimahri on July 30, 2002, 06:58:21 PM
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Originally posted by mm
hey everyone\'s gonna die sometime

let them be fat and die happy
perhaps some fat mofo will stop eating his big mac for a second while he walks by yer carcass that got hit by a bus while you were out jogging


Yes its true that we will all die at some point.  But the fact is that 99% of all obese people in "modern" culture are likely to be unhappy with their weight...this would not allow them to live a happy life.

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we ALL have some defect we wish we could change, no?


true but those include things like

wanting curly not straight hair.
wanting no freckles
wanting to be taller
wanting a more attractive face-----smaller nose, different eye color, unwrinkled skin


....and wanting something on themselves to be a little longer?:p


some of those things can be solved by surgury which IMO is pretty shallow.

Losing weight is something that can be done naturally and personally and has the most benifit of all those changes.
Title: fat people
Post by: Bozco on July 30, 2002, 06:58:30 PM
Flawed logic, something like being fat can be easily changed.
Title: fat people
Post by: Seraphim Pride on July 30, 2002, 07:00:49 PM
It\'s mostly will power to change or you can just go on the subway diet:)
Title: fat people
Post by: SonyFan on July 30, 2002, 07:08:15 PM
I don\'t consider myself fat.. but I do have a healthy 6-pack goin on. Nothing too major tho.. you can still see my ribs when I strech and I only have A cup man-boobies. And no Boz, being fat isn\'t something that can be "Easily" remedied. I haven\'t been eating barely anything for the past 3 weeks (I\'m not dieting, I\'m jus broke) and I really haven\'t lost anymore than about 5 lbs. It\'s gonna come right back as soon as I get some cash and a normal diet goin on again. I think my problem is that i jus don\'t excersize tho.

Some people can\'t help it.. tho I don\'t see how people can get to the weight like the chunky butt chick in Vid\'s avvy and not be seeking some serious medical help before it ever gets to that point.
Title: fat people
Post by: square_marker on July 30, 2002, 07:11:14 PM
im in perfect condition...i run everyday 6 miles and work out (mostly lower body)

I feel no remorse or pity for people who complain about their weight and their weight related problems.  Do they not realize that all they have to do is exercise?
Title: fat people
Post by: Animal Mother on July 30, 2002, 07:15:45 PM
I used to weigh 150Lbs and now I weigh 130LBs
Title: fat people
Post by: SonyFan on July 30, 2002, 07:17:22 PM
I don\'t blame fat people who don\'t want to excersize. Come on Square, if you was 300-400 lbs, would you really wanna be haulin all that ugly jiggly shyt around with you on a six mile run?
Title: fat people
Post by: square_marker on July 30, 2002, 07:18:18 PM
lol im not saying they have to exercise or run 6 miles....i just dont want to hear them complain you know?
Title: fat people
Post by: Kimahri on July 30, 2002, 07:25:35 PM
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Originally posted by Animal Mother
I used to weigh 150Lbs and now I weigh 130LBs


how tall are you?:)
Title: fat people
Post by: SonyFan on July 30, 2002, 07:27:21 PM
Tru, I understand that completely. They don\'t have to excersize.. but either do SOMETHING about it or jus STFU.
Title: fat people
Post by: Animal Mother on July 30, 2002, 07:28:50 PM
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Originally posted by Kimahri


how tall are you?:)


about 5\'5
Title: fat people
Post by: CHIZZY on July 30, 2002, 07:30:39 PM
I\'m a lean, mean f*ckin machine.


tho I seem to be carrying a beer pouch lately......:D
Title: fat people
Post by: SER on July 30, 2002, 07:35:33 PM
I think I\'m pretty fat, I posted a thread about me trying to lose some weight wayyy back. It\'s alright though, my girlfriend doesn\'t seem to mind, she seems to like being able to grab on to me.. :laughing: But I wouldn\'t mind losing 10 pounds, maybe even 20, I\'m just too lazy to do something about it.
Title: fat people
Post by: Living-In-Clip on July 30, 2002, 07:35:34 PM
I\'m with MM on this. IN some culture\'s it is a sign of being healthy and wealthy. Instead, in America we make a huge deal out of it.
I say, eat all you want and die happy.
Title: fat people
Post by: Luke on July 30, 2002, 07:37:45 PM
other than my little beer pouch, im a solid hunk of man-wall.

6\'1, 180lbs.


at one time i was up to about 215 though... but i really liked milkshakes back then.
Title: fat people
Post by: Seraphim Pride on July 30, 2002, 07:46:04 PM
I don\'t even know how much I weigh haven\'t weighted myself in years oh well as long as I can look straight down and see my feet I guess I\'m fine.
Title: fat people
Post by: theomen on July 30, 2002, 08:00:45 PM
I have no remorse for fat people who COMPLAIN about being fat, and do nothing about it.  If your fat, and are like "yeah I\'m fat, but who cares" I\'m cool with you...well as long as you\'re not like 500 pounds and make me ill looking at you.  

But people who are like "i\'m fat, but it\'s a gladular problem.  I had a diet soda with my 4 pizzas but I didn\'t loose a pound, and I did a situp!" piss me off!!!

They also make it seem like if they wanted to, they could just not have a forth helping of lard at dinner, do a sit up, and they\'de be Ronnie Coleman (big time body builder).  I work out like a mad man, I work my ass off for at least 3 hours a day, I diet, I use a shit load of supp\'s that cost me a f*ck\'n arm and a leg, and to have fat people disrespect all the work that I put into that shit, pisses me off to no end.


(Ok, I\'ve calmed down now....I\'m gonna go take my brain medicine)
Title: fat people
Post by: SonyFan on July 30, 2002, 08:13:13 PM
But see, that\'s one advantage fat people have. Alot of them don\'t have to excersize all that much to have big muscles.. it\'s like carrying 20 to 150lbs of Weights on you EVERYWHERE you go. Imagine how buffed out you\'d get if you strapped 10lb weights to your ankles and wrists and a 20lb Barbell to your chest and back.. then spent a good portion of your life like that. You just can\'t see their muscles undernieth all that blubbler.

The problem comes tho.. that alot of fat people try extreem diets or starvation diets and won\'t excersize.. so all that muscle eventually turns into fat or is consumed by your body long before the fat is. From what I\'ve understood, fat turns into muscle quickly.. and a chunky guy can bulk up hardcore if he puts his mind to it much faster than a skinny guy can. Then again.. you can stop your excersize routine and have that muscle jus loose it\'s tone.. a fat guy\'s muscles turn back into fat after he quits.

Luke\'s at about my ideal weight. I\'m supposed to be 175 to 180 with my height and frame. I\'m at about 195-200 right now. Used to be a time tho when I weighed 305. :eek: My secret? I started eating less and eating healthier. It wasn\'t that hard.
Title: fat people
Post by: Bozco on July 30, 2002, 08:14:15 PM
I only have a problem with grossly overweight people.  It shows they have no respect for their body.  Then again I\'m 5\'9" 139 so what would I know about being overweight.  Like theomen said, I just don\'t want to hear them complain about being overweight.
Title: fat people
Post by: theomen on July 30, 2002, 08:18:20 PM
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From what I\'ve understood, fat turns into muscle quickly.. and a chunky guy can bulk up hardcore if he puts his mind to it much faster than a skinny guy can. Then again.. you can stop your excersize routine and have that muscle jus loose it\'s tone.. a fat guy\'s muscles turn back into fat after he quits.


actually fat can\'t turn into muscle, and vice versa.  You can\'t change the molecular composition of a lipid.  You can "burn" the fat, and replace it with muscle, but you can\'t turn it into muscle.
Title: fat people
Post by: SwifDi on July 30, 2002, 08:27:50 PM
My head is fat. My body, not so fat.
Title: fat people
Post by: SonyFan on July 30, 2002, 08:27:59 PM
Well mock nick, all I\'m sayin is it\'s easier for fat people to bulk up than for skinny people.. but if they stop their routine they\'ll loose it and replace it with fat a helluva lot faster than skinny people.
Title: fat people
Post by: theomen on July 30, 2002, 08:33:47 PM
i wasn\'t really disagreeing with you.  just being a trainer, and a body builder for so long, little misnomers bother me.  It would be like when someone comes in here and talks about graphix being more important than game play.  Not a big deal, just bothersome.

But yeah, it is easier for naturally large person to put on muscle than it is for a naturally skinny person.  I myself would probably be "pudgy" if it weren\'t for my activity, and life style.
Title: fat people
Post by: Animal Mother on July 30, 2002, 08:58:10 PM
I eat very healthy, excersize regularly, but then again I\'ve never been a very big guy. I was a little pudgy a few years ago for some reason. So eat healthy, excersise regulary, and you\'ll be lean. I dont know why people think its so hard.
Title: fat people
Post by: Mr. Kennedy on July 30, 2002, 09:18:58 PM
18 y/o 6\'4" 245 lbs.

Dont know if thats fat, but i\'m an althlete.  So I know I\'m in good shape.
Title: fat people
Post by: square_marker on July 30, 2002, 09:23:30 PM
im 6\'3 165

its all muscle ;) ;)

EDIT: 16 y/o
Title: fat people
Post by: Bozco on July 30, 2002, 09:27:01 PM
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Originally posted by The Hurricane

Dont know if thats fat, but i\'m an althlete.  So I know I\'m in good shape.


Thats how a lot of people feel until they start running long distance.
Title: fat people
Post by: Mr. Kennedy on July 30, 2002, 09:37:18 PM
your so optimistic :rolleyes:
Title: fat people
Post by: Bozco on July 30, 2002, 09:40:52 PM
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Originally posted by The Hurricane
your so optimistic :rolleyes:


Boo hoo, just the view from a cross country runner.
Title: fat people
Post by: square_marker on July 30, 2002, 09:50:09 PM
yea!!!!!!!!!! boo hoo hurricane!
Title: fat people
Post by: SER on July 30, 2002, 10:17:42 PM
Hey omen, what would you say your diet would be on a regular day?
Title: fat people
Post by: §ôµÏG®ïñD on July 30, 2002, 10:31:02 PM
I was abit over wieght... Got to around 95kg.. Mainly after my op. Got very sick for awhile... Now i\'m around 84kg.. So i\'m happy. :)
Martial arts is the S@#T
Title: fat people
Post by: theomen on July 30, 2002, 10:32:35 PM
2500-3000 calories
160-200g protein
1 meal every 2-3 hours

example of my daily diet;
load of scrambled egg beaters, and two slices of whole weat toast

tuna fish sandwich

two roasted chicken breats, salad with 0 fat dressing, and broccoli

protein shake

another roasted chicken breast

another tuna sandwhich (i usually go through 2 cans a day)

another protein shake

I also drink 2 gallons of water, and a half gallon of skim milk a day.
Title: fat people
Post by: Black Samurai on July 30, 2002, 10:38:39 PM
I\'ve played sports everyear of my life since from when I was 7 or 8 until I was about 20. I was big from all of the lifting. When I graduated HS I was 5\'10" 220 lbs. After I stopped I put on weight. Right now I\'m 5\'11" 240 lbs.

I\'m on a low carb diet and I do light cardio exercises at night before I shower and go to sleep. I trying to slim down in case I decide to go out for semi-pro again or try to walk-on the pats practice squad next year.

Any suggestions from anyone on the best way to slim down? Like I said I\'m on a low-carb diet and I do some cardio at nights. Any suggestions on the best exercises?
Title: fat people
Post by: theomen on July 30, 2002, 10:42:20 PM
the ketogenic diet is good.  You deplete your body of carbs, sending your body into ketosis, so that it has to rely on a secondary fuel source, which is stored fat.  Very basically you just keep your carbs in the 20g zone, anything above 20 grams a day you go out of ketosis.

Look up ketogenic diet on the internet for a full meal plan.  If you can\'t find one, I\'ll hook you up.
Title: fat people
Post by: theomen on July 30, 2002, 10:43:55 PM
one more thing....DRINK WATER!!!  it is the most important thing you can do, here\'s an article about the miracles of water;

Water Keeps the FAT Away
By Donald S. Robertson, M.D.

Incredible as it may seem water may quite possibly be the single most important catalyst in losing weight and keeping it off. Although most of us take it for granted water may be the only true ”magic potion” for permanent weight loss.

Water suppresses the appetite naturally and helps the body metabolize stored fat. Studies have shown that a decrease in water intake will cause fat deposits to increase, while an increase in water intake can actually replace fat deposits.

Here’s why: The kidneys can’t function properly without enough water. When they don’t work to capacity, some of their load is dumped onto the liver. One of the liver’s primary functions is to metabolize stored fats into usable energy for the body. If the liver has to do some of the kidney’s work, it can’t operate at full throttle. As a result, it metabolizes less fat, more fat remains stored in the body and weight loss stops.

Drinking enough water is the best treatment for fluid retention. When the body gets less water, it perceives this as a threat to survival and begins to hold onto every drop. Water is stored in extra-cellular spaces (outside the cells). This shows up as swollen feet, legs, and hands.

Diuretics offer a temporary solution at best. They force out water along with some essential nutrients. Again the body perceives a threat and will replace the lost water at the first opportunity. Thus the condition quickly returns.

The best way to overcome the problem of water retention is to give the body what it needs plenty of water. Only then will stored water be released. If you have a constant problem with water retention, excess salt may be to blame. Your body will tolerate sodium only in a certain concentration. The more salt you eat, the more water your system retains to dilute it. Getting rid of unneeded salt is easy, just drink more water. As water is forced through the kidneys, excess sodium is removed.

The overweight person needs more water than the thin one. Larger people have large metabolic loads. Since we know that water is the key to fat metabolism, it follows that the overweight person needs more water. Water helps to maintain proper muscle tone by giving muscles their natural ability to contract and by preventing dehydration. It also helps to prevent the sagging skin that usually follows weight loss, shrinking cells are buoyed by water which plumps the skin and leaves it clear, healthy and resilient.


Water helps rid the body of waste. During weight loss, the body has a lot more waste to get rid of, all that metabolized fat must be shed. Again adequate water helps flush out the waste. Water can help relieve constipation. When their body gets too little water, it siphons what it needs from internal sources. The colon is one primary source. Result? Constipation. When a person drinks enough water, normal bowel function usually returns.

So far we’ve discovered some remarkable truths about water and weight loss:
• The body will not function properly without enough water and can’t metabolize stored fat efficiently.
• Retained water shows up as excess weight.
• To get rid of excess water you must drink more water.
• Drinking water is essential to weight loss.

How much water is enough? On the average. a person should drink eight 8ounce glasses every day. That’s about 2 quarts. However, the overweight person needs one additional glass for every 25 pounds of excess weight. The amount you drink also should be increased if you exercise briskly or if the weather is hot and dry. Water should preferably be COLD, its absorbed into the system more quickly than warm water. Some evidence suggests that drinking cold water can actually help burn calories. To utilize water more efficiently during weight loss follow this schedule:
• Morning: 1 quart consumed over a 30 min. period
• Noon: 1 quart consumed over a 30 min. period
• Evening: 1 quart consumed between 5 and 6 o’clock

When the body gets the water it needs to function optimally, its fluids are perfectly balanced. When this happens, you have reached the” breakthrough point”. What does this mean?
• Endocrine gland function improves.
• Fluid retention is alleviated, as stored water is lost.
• More FAT is used as fuel because the liver is free to metabolize stored fat.
• Natural thirst returns.
• There is a loss of hunger almost overnight.

If you stop drinking water, your body fluids will be thrown out of balance again, and you may experience fluid retention, unexplained weight gain and loss of thirst. To remedy the situation you’ll have to go back and force another “ breakthrough”.
Title: fat people
Post by: Black Samurai on July 30, 2002, 11:36:36 PM
^^^omen, check your pm\'s
Title: fat people
Post by: SER on July 31, 2002, 12:28:57 AM
Damn, no wonder why. I hardly ever drink water. I need drinks with taste.

Anyways, I finally got off my ass today and went for a jog.. I just came back about 5 minutes ago. I feel really good about it. I think I\'m gonna be doing it regularly from now one, once in the morn and once towards the ending of the afternoon.. Gonna try to shed off some of this fat.

Is the tuna thing good for you? I really like tuna and I woudn\'t mind eating it everyday..
Title: fat people
Post by: Hawke on July 31, 2002, 12:43:31 AM
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Originally posted by Bozco


Thats how a lot of people feel until they start running long distance.


I can\'t run much (maybe somewhere between 1-2km), but I can bike 100km in one go, done about 250km a day max. Boy, am I out of shape.

6\'2" at 167lbs (192cm 76kg). BMI 21.4, just about ideal weight.

Loads of bloody tall people in here.
Title: fat people
Post by: mm on July 31, 2002, 02:38:32 AM
humans as a species are getting taller, a few more centuries and we\'ll be walking on our knuckles again

wouldnt that make clyde happy now?
Title: fat people
Post by: Black Samurai on July 31, 2002, 02:58:31 AM
^^^I get you on the taller issue; but what does that have to do with people walking on their knuckles?
Title: fat people
Post by: theomen on July 31, 2002, 02:58:47 AM
tuna is great for you, it is possibly the BEST food for anyone who is athletic.  Considering that body builders need about a gram of protein per pound of body weight, tuna is perfect because it has 34 grams of protein per can, with very low fat, around 5 grams.  Tuna also has omega 5 in it, which is an esential faty acid, only found in fish.

Another great thing is chicken breast (skinless), it is very low fat (99% fat free) and has around 30 grams of protein per serving.
Title: fat people
Post by: Samwise on July 31, 2002, 05:04:59 AM
Nope, I\'m not overweight.

About loosing weight - my mom recently lost about 20 pounds (not that she was fat before). How she did it? She ate plenty of food - but the right food. Lots of pasta and vegtables and stuff like that. And she quit eating butter and other fat stuff (plus she started exercising a little (nothing extreme)). So in about a month she lost that weight. It really isn\'t that hard if only you remember, that a diet starts from the inside... your mind has to be changed first, then your body. And it\'ll work.
Title: fat people
Post by: mm on July 31, 2002, 05:16:54 AM
human skeletons will not be able to support the mass of our bodies as we "evolve" over centuries.  humans are growing taller and thats not all

3 traits that are growing

1- decaying eyesight

2- left handed

3- height

its almost frightening
Title: fat people
Post by: Knotter8 on July 31, 2002, 05:18:38 AM
Maybe it\'s easier to lose weight if you have more other physical
pleasures than eating :rolleyes: ...........:laughing:
Title: fat people
Post by: MPTheory on July 31, 2002, 09:20:12 AM
I lost abut 20 lbs in about 1 month.  I just started working out and eating less.  One thing to always keep in mind is that if you take in more calories than you can burn in a day, it\'s going to be stored on your body... AS FAT.  but you also have to make sure that you eat the right kinds of foods. I also 3 times a week for about 11 minutes (Or 2 miles)
Title: fat people
Post by: Soul Reaver on July 31, 2002, 09:23:42 AM
Meh

I don\'t seem to gain weight, I\'ve been the right size since I was a young\'n.

I do play basketball alot, works great for me.
Title: fat people
Post by: Bladez on July 31, 2002, 10:17:15 AM
I\'m a little heavy but I\'m loosing most of it doing training.:)
Title: fat people
Post by: Jar O Pickles on July 31, 2002, 12:52:08 PM
im a big boy 5\'11" 230 lbs but im pretty stong too so some of thats from muscles