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Playstation/Gaming Discussions => Gaming Discussion => Topic started by: Bobs_Hardware on August 01, 2002, 10:55:08 PM
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well.. about an hour ago I decided to go out and buy some lunch... 45 minutes later I come home owning a brand new Xbox...
:crap:
Anyways, Just thought I\'d let everyone know that I am now a proud XBox owner...
although I had to walk home and didnt want anybody to see me holding an Xbox..
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Why?
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HAHAHHAHA YOU HAVE BEEN ASSIMILATED!!!!
so how did it taste like? you did eat it did you?
I MEAN, IT COULDN\'T BE LUNCH IF U DIDN\'T EAT IT!!!
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Bobs_Hardware you what? :laughing: You\'re just in time to ride the big waves of games coming fall 2002. Get Halo and Enclave! Now welcome to the next level! :D
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i hope you didnt pay full price for it
yeah, give halo a shot for what its worth
but enclave = teh zzzzzzzzzzzzz*
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I\'m with Chrono - why?
Oh wait, nevermind, I did the same thing \'cept I paid full price for mine..:(
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Originally posted by Chrono
Why?
Because . . . He likes games and not the logo on the box that plays said games.
Ace
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Congrats. :D
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Because I\'ve been getting lots of hours at work, and I have no other expenses except videogames, and I just felt like it. That\'s why. I\'m a horrible impulse buyer.
The only game I bought was Halo.. It probably should have tipped me off that I should not have bought one when the clerk was trying to talk me into all these games, and I kept saying "No, I\'m not interested".
I plan to get Munch\'s Oddesey next week, and maybe Hunter: The Reckoning (purely because my friend and I love multiplayer goodness (and we want more hack n\' slash after Baldur\'s Gate :)))
And pstwo, you are a twit.
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i loved munch\'s oddysee
you might wanna rent hunter before laying down the cash
balders gate is coming out for xbox, but im not sure if its a straight port or not (hopefully not)
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Hah!! Oh well, at least you came in at a good time...I haven\'t played mine in 3 months but now that it\'s August that should change...
Munch is well worth it, Hunter on the other hand...give it a rent before you spend 50$ on it.
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mm, I\'m not buying Baldur\'s Gate on XBox.. especially seeing as all impressions suggest that the only improvement (thus far) is better fire effects and maybe sharper textures *shrugs*..
But, yah, I was only thinking about hunter.. someone told me as far as Hack n\' Slash goes it\'s alright.
So maybe.. next time I go out to get some lunch... I\'ll... have a ....a.... MUNCH! <<<<----- Pun of the century.
:)
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like i said, i didnt know what kind of port it was
so i guess ill stick with the flawless version i have now
thats they keyword when talking about hunter, alright
definately get munch, i was skeptical (not cause it was on xbox, but because it was 3D), and it turned out fabulous
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So maybe.. next time I go out to get some lunch... I\'ll... have a ....a.... MUNCH! <<<<----- Pun of the century.
impressed
Hunter...for a multiplayer game you\'ll have fun. The single player experience wears thin rather quickly though...still wouldn\'t pay 50$ for it.
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Congrats. Hope your enjoying Halo. I know I am. I\'m on the last mission and plan on beating the game today with my brother. Morrowind is the only other game for Xbox I wanna pick up.
(realizes he should update his sig..)
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Originally posted by Bobs_Hardware
And pstwo, you are a twit.
Ah you\'re lucky there is rules in here if you can read them. :rolleyes:
Here it is. Live by them.
Name calling isn\'t prohibited in here, but again, don\'t make a new post for it. Either work it into your post or don\'t reply at all. Keep it sensible and retain some some class for yourself. Use wit and sarcasm like mm.
but enclave = teh zzzzzzzzzzzzz*
mm, have you played Enclave yet. By this, I know you didn\'t. Enclave gameplay is nothing like you think it is. The gameplay is solid! This game will sell very well.
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Pstwo, you are a twit. I worked it into my post, and because I am insulting you, it requires no wit.
I may check out Morrowind when its released, but I\'m not a big fan of the idea of such open gameplay.. so I may just rent it.
Ajoh, I have Halo and I think it\'s a swell game. I am definately enjoying it more than I did when I rented it. The only problem is, as far as a single player game goes, I don\'t like it so much (although more than I originally did). Co-Op is definately great, and what puts it ahead of games like Red Faction and Medal of Honor. *crosses fingers for Co-Op in Red Faction 2*
:)
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mm, have you played Enclave yet. By this, I know you didn\'t. Enclave gameplay is nothing like you think it is. The gameplay is solid! This game will sell very well.
Solid for your crappy xbox standards maybe
"A game that\'s more fun to look at then play"
"combat gets repetive"
"the somewhat haphazard combat renders the game frustrating"
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Solid for your crappy xbox standards maybe
I\'m the one with the Xbox, I\'m not the stupid one with out. :rolleyes: Anyway, just play it at your friends house. You will see.
Pstwo, you are a twit. I worked it into my post, and because I am insulting you, it requires no wit.
Whatever! As for Morrowind, remember it\'s an RPG and have slow action gameplay. I\'m telling you play Enclave! GOTY 2002!
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yeah, it that why gamers.com gave it a 6 rating
For every compliment I can give Enclave, there\'s a complaint to go along with it. The graphics are gorgeous, crisp and detailed...but marred with choppy animations and occasional glitches. An Eye Candy with a sour after taste
I had high hopes for Enclave but I feel it was released too early. For one thing where is the multiplayer!? The game is visually impressive and that also can be said for the sound.
Enclave falls short on gameplay and controls. The game have huge levels that sometimes can be unforgiving even on early levels, here is the catch: there is no save feature or checkpoints, when you die you start from the beginning of the level. There are also minor control issue, as sometimes you miss your jump for no reason at all. The combat seems a little off sometimes when in melee.
Enclave is a good game, but it was rushed. The developer at least could have made an option to have checkpoints in the game. Also the hype on this game was a good multiplayer experience, but there was none.
Enclave! xbox fanboys GOTY 2002!
:rolleyes:
zelda was an rpg and it didnt have slow moving gameplay :)
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Anyway, just play it at your friends house.
Kinda hard to do since, none of my friends had xboxes.
2 did, but one sold it after beating halo all the way, and another ones broke.
I guess you get too exctied if you play decent games, which is probably why you got a xbox, so you can contain yourself with its mediocre games.
Once again, these are quotes about enclave
"A game that\'s more fun to look at then play"
"combat gets repetive"
"the somewhat haphazard combat renders the game frustrating"
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"A game that\'s more fun to look at then play"
GOOD LORD!
that describes 95% of the xbox library!
ddaryl, where are ya to see this?!
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I\'m tell you guys now, take it like a grain of mico cells not salt what reviewers said. Take it from the gamers. Check out this post at GA. Theres Xbox, PS2 and GameCube fan all in one board. I post there 98% of the day.
http://
At TeamXbox.com board.
http://
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sorry bro, i gotta remove the links, as we dont allow advertising
especially to a *shudder* txb forum
i should take my advice on xbox games FROM xbox gamers? lol, that\'ll be the day. they can make excuses all they want, but at the end of the day, they\'re stuck with a creampuff like enclave.
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Sorry about that, but advertising? :laughing:
Enclave is not a creampuff. I rented Hunter that is a creampuff, :laughing: Rent Enclave at lest. When you playing it you\'re going to say, I yeah it is great.
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if only i had the care to make time, i would go back in the forum archive to find posts that you and rast hyping hunter like there was no tomorrow
like i said, it doesnt matter to me how you feel about enclave
you know deep down inside its a let down, but its too late for you to say so
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you know deep down inside its a let down, but its too late for you to say so
:laughing: no, deep down I thought from reviewers that it was not a good game but now I think it\'s 10X better. Please rent it.
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so yer saying the game DOESNT feel rushed, and doesnt offer a flawed and repetitive battle system and you mind it not having a multiplayer option?
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Enclave doesn\'t feel rushed at all, from the level it looks and plays. This is an adventure game with quests no need of such kind of multiplayer. The enemies comes after you with no MERCY! They will hunt you down! Some will start to snipe you from far with a cross bow, run for cover and look for them. SWEET battle animations on both sides. You must think and time your blocks and hits. Like Enlcave, as you get pots of golds in the game, You are able to buy better shields and weapons, armor, Potions etc. You have 100% controll of the camera views. Starbreeze Studios is GOD!!
The official site:
http://www.starbreeze.com/
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*yawn*
its hopeless to debate with an android
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Baldur\'s Gate: DA is like Diablo for Dummies. After staring at the barmaids boobs for about 1 hour and talking to her repeatedly so she would keep shaking em, I got bored.
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Originally posted by Avatarr
HAHAHHAHA YOU HAVE BEEN ASSIMILATED!!!!
so how did it taste like? you did eat it did you?
I MEAN, IT COULDN\'T BE LUNCH IF U DIDN\'T EAT IT!!!
:laughing:
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Why is it every new Xbox game that comes out , Pstwo changes his avatar to that exact game? And every Xbox game comes out is "GOTY 2002!!!" or a canidate for it. Even when everyone else thinks the game is a stinker.
Also, why is it every thread we have Brute Force pics are brought up (waits for it to happen here) ?
On lighter note: Bob, pick up Munch. It is the only game on the XBox worth owning and the only reason I am not totally bitter about my purchase of an Xbox.
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Yes bob good job getting an xbox. :) The most expensive for me was probably xbox as well.
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I ignored this thread for all this time because I actually thought it was about expensive lunches...lol.
Congrats.
I\'m enjoying Enclave, but don\'t buy it. Rent it. I can\'t see it being fun for too long. About the repetitve fighting--that isn\'t valid. Diablo, Ico, Baulder\'s Gate...all have repetitive fighting systems. It doesn\'t invalidate the game. The graphics are good, the different classes are standard, but varied. My only complaint so far is the save system. And yeah, it does feel rushed.
I think Hunter is a fine game. You can find it for cheap at Blockbuster. It won\'t change your life but it\'s fun with buddies.
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The amazing thing is that Rast and Pstwo almost always rave on about which game is great and what not and at the same time, it is usually the game that isn\'t so great. Yet, a game like Munch, which is busting with creative ideas and amazing presentation is completely overlooked by them, when it comes to all the praise.
By the way, just to remind you again Bobo, get Munch! The game is the reason to own an Xbox.
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Originally posted by mm
*yawn*
its hopeless to debate with an android
No
M$ SpinDoctor ;)
oh ok maybe PStwo is an android ;)
hey PStwo do you Dream of Electric Sheep ?
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Originally posted by Bobs_Hardware
well.. about an hour ago I decided to go out and buy some lunch... 45 minutes later I come home owning a brand new Xbox...
:crap:
Anyways, Just thought I\'d let everyone know that I am now a proud XBox owner...
although I had to walk home and didnt want anybody to see me holding an Xbox..
Excellent choice, welcome aboard, you now have the best gaming console currently available in the XBOX!!!!!!
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yeah, if you like waiting for A+ games (only to be let down)
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Yeah, some of th\' Xbox\'s hyped games have fallen somewhat flat.
On the other hand, the under-hyped Xbox games have been pretty darned good.
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On the other hand, the under-hyped Xbox games have been pretty darned good.
hehehe, yeah I know
every xbox game is hyped :p
wait..
umm..
You were joking right? what under-hyped good xbox games are there? especially the "pretty darned good" ones.
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I enjoy Project Gotham.. that was a little bit under-hyped.
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Actually, I thought it was being hyped up big time. Particularly the graphics which were so underwhelming.
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munch\'s odysee was completely under hyped
great game
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Originally posted by mm
munch\'s odysee was completely under hyped
great game
Let it never be said that you are man without taste.
;)
I personally was not looking forward to Munch when I bought it, put it in and gave it alittle bit and found myself having mass amounts of fun. Another thing the game has is style . All of the cinema\'s are stylish and funny.
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Originally posted by Bobs_Hardware
Particularly the graphics which were so underwhelming. [/B]
Compared to what?
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mm you crack me up
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Originally posted by ooseven
hey PStwo do you Dream of Electric Sheep ?
:laughing: Sheep?
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ooseven, you forgot that u were talking about pstwo,
someone who didnt know what "pong" was, let alone a novel written 30 years ago
makes is difficult sometimes, i know
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nor a movie about 20 years ago, eh mm? :)
While I do not appreciate the gathering of all XBox bashers into this thread at one time, I would like to congratulate you on the purchase of an XBox. The great games are there you just have to weed out the utter crap, that, incidentally is on EVERY system, and is in mu more quantities on PS2.
GET:
Project Gotham (best racing game I have seen in years, rip your own soundtracks and get kudos. When you can get thousands of kudos on one track, you know you are good)
Rallisport Challenge (best rally game in years. Smokes everything but Sega Rally 2)
Munch - people who bash this game have not played it or have some fanboyish rage for Oddworld Inhabitants because they left PS2 in the dust for a bag full of money.
GUNVALKYRIE - very cool bug blasting. Very intuitive controls that get better every minute you use them. When you are able to touch the ground only when you want to or need to, you know you are getting good. Excellent graphics, soundtrack, and challenge.
JSRF - more of a platformer over the original, but everything has been fine tuned, right down to the control. Excellent, huge levels, still the best cel shading out there.
rent - Wreckless, Enclave, and Amped to see if you like them. Each are excellent, but only Amped gives any redeeming replay value. Also rent Morrowind to see if you like it. The game offers lots of freedom, but gives you plenty to do. Very cool game.
Congrats.
Eric Jacob
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Hmm.. I agree with everything on Altered\'s list except two. First off, Project Gotham. It\'s really nothing but an upgraded MSR. Some of the bells and whistles they added are nice.. like the ability to playback your Mp3 collection in game.. but the gameplay itself isn\'t really all that spectacular. It\'s different.. and that might be enough to turn you onto the game.. but the reliance on the Kudos system might turn you off like it did me. This is one I suggest renting.
Also.. I think he should take Wreckless off the rental list. It\'s eyecandy.. but nothing more. Whereas Project Gotham is jus a bit different.. Wreckless is pure crap. I spent an hour with this game.. really too long.. I can\'t see how Altered calls it excellent. It is worth a rental just to serve as an example of the kinda eyecandy garbage you should look out for.
Oh.. and get JGRF. It\'s awsome. :D
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I loved the Super Runabout games, and it is basically a new one with no replay value. I thought it was great for a few hours, and then I beat it.
He has probably never played MSR, as he lives in Australia, where DC was worse off than anywhere else. PGR is excellent, and you can turn off reliance on kudos, you know. You can choose to win races with actual speed, but driving with powerslides and all that to get points is more fun to me, especially while listening to custom soundtracks.
BTW, the Shenmue OST is EXCELLENT!!! WOW! Talk about movie-quality production, truly great stuff!
Eric Jacob
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I know.. but I\'m pretty sure Bobbo said he had a DC at one point. Either way.. expecially if he hasn\'t played MSR before.. it\'s good to give it a rental first. That option to turn off the Kudos wasn\'t in the DC MSR was it? I never found the option for it anyhow.
BTW: What\'s IS the Shenmue OST? Jus the Xbox version of Shenmue II or is it something else? Sorry, ain\'t been keeping up on it since Shenmue II on Xbox holds absolutely no interest for me.
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Compared to what?
Gran Turismo 3 :)
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Altered:
Project Gotham is not on my list. No I never played MSR, and it never really interested me. The idea of Kudos, and having to do powerslides and such to obtain the kudos actually does turn me off even more (being that I\'m not a racing game fan to begin with).. especially because I have never liked power sliding in racing games, i prefer to up the handling to maximum and use tight cornering and plenty of brakes :)
Rallisport Challenge.. I rented this out about 3 weeks ago (when I rented an XBox) and I was expecting a great game. Apart from the great framerate it was kind of underwhelming for me. All it made me want to do was plug in the Colin McRae demo for PSX that I have (which the next day.. I did :))
Munch.. I just bought it about 30 minutes ago.. unfortunately my house-mates are playing some co-op Halo as I type this, and I have to go to work in an hour.. so I might not get to play it for a few hours :(
GUNVALKYRIE is a rental for sure. Controls and such has never been a problm for me, I\'m pretty good at adjusting, and this seems to be a hit or miss game.. So I\'m hoping it hits (for me)
JSRF just doesnt seem like my type of game (I\'m usually pretty good at guessing which games I will like, and which I will dislike... usually).. but if I\'m really bored one day I\'ll give it a rental
Wreckless, Enclave and Amped are possible rentals.. but I don\'t like their chances :D
And no SonyFan I have never owned a DC, although I have been looking for one.. they just don\'t seem to be ANYWHERE down here.. I guess it really did do poorly. Besides that, I\'m probably not looking too hard seeing as most of the great DC games (that I want) will be ported and/or getting their sequals on the PS2/GCN/XB soon :)
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To say so underwhelming just doesn\'t seem right...GT3 is a little better looking, but compared to every other racer Project Gotham is still on top.
GunValkyrie will eat you alive.
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a little!? i just played PG then, it looks horrible in comparison :crap:
and I didnt really like the PG gameplay, obviously if i play it more I\'ll get more into it, but meh, not my type of game.
BTW Altered, I changed my mind, I\'m gonna give all those games you listed a rental :) I hesitated because I don\'t like to rent (I have huge overdue fees) But most of those games, as much as I might like them, are not the sort of games that I would buy. Eh, go figure :)
:)
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just play them with an open mind and you will most likely enjoy them. Throw away all the crap people say about Wreckless. 90% of them probably have never played it. The game is a fast beautiful one, if only way too short. It is interesting to unlock the different video modes for the game, then the replay value drops to zero.
Try Project Gotham. Like I said, you can turn off kudos to win and race for place only. MSR didn\'t have that option. I was actually playing MSR last night for about 2 hours. Great game undeserved of the attention not given to it. Hard game, though. No mamsy-pamsy GT3 stuff here, you have to work for your races and kudos, which are harder in this game, because when you mess up, it actually takes points away, instead of just not giving you points!
Eric Jacob
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Gunvalkrie is great. The people who bash it, never bothered to get good at it. Why does every game have to pander to the masses and be incredibly easy and derrivative? Remember Contra? No continues, 3 lives. Long, tough game. We didn\'t complain, we adapted, learned to beat those impossible situations and eventually beat it. And, boy what a feeling!
Back then games were modeled after arcade titles--geared towards sucking quarters out of patron\'s pockets. Now games are made for the home market, for little children and casual fans. That\'s why GV is scoffed at--because it\'s tough. If GV was made in the 80s, there would be no save points, possibly continues. That\'s it. People were used to tough games back then: R-type, Black Tiger, Bionic Commando, etc. Now, games that are tough are given 6s and dismissed.
At first you will be convinced the controls are tougher than they have to be. But once you adjust and fly through the air in true Gunvalkrie style, you can\'t help but get a rush. It\'s great fun. Sadly, most won\'t bother to give it a chance. They\'d rather play Genma Onimusha, beat it in 5 hours 47 minutes and call it great. :rolleyes:
To each his own I suppose.
I also really like Amped and PGR--two more tough games, that get dismissed for similar reasons. Amped, uses a different control scheme from Tony We\'ll-hold-your-hand-for-the-whole-****ing-game Hawk and it\'s damn hard towards the end. Reviewers didn\'t like it either.
People wished PGR was GT3, and reviewers couldn\'t help but compare it to it. It\'s no GT3, they say, we\'ll give it a 7. No shit it\'s not GT3 nor is it trying to be.
I\'ll stop ranting, there\'s plenty of kindling here for a fanboy\'s fire.
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dont listen to watch
gunvalkryie is a turd, a shiny turd, but still a turd
onimusha has style, and a plot
i believe gunvalkryie would be WORSE if it possessed either of those
i like how you call contra "long" when it can be beaten in under 30 minutes.
:)
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I call contra long because if you logged all the hours you spent up to the point where you are able to beat it in 30 minutes, it would be hours upon hours. I beat Genma Onimusha the first day I got it. The first ****ing day! Plot? My gawd, don\'t get me started on this stupid-I\'ve-seen-this-plot several-hundred-times-before plot. Style is may have, but it\'s style you\'ve seen and played a hundred times before.
GV has style, sadly no one learns the game. Any slob can pick up Genma and have "style" playing it. GV actually requires you to be good at the game before it looks stylish.
Tell me mm, how many times did you go mobius during your play time with GV? If I remember your remarks about the game, you brought it back ten minutes after you rented it. Yeah, that\'s an educated opinion you have of GV. Your thought processes probably went like this:
Damn how do I move?
Shit I can\'t do anything.
It shouldn\'t have controls like this.
I do I ****ing turn? It should turn with the right stick!
****ing thing, I died.
Gamespot was right, this game sucks.
I want to hit one button, do an assortment of attacks, and I want to breeze through the first 5 levels without any AI turned on. During this, I want it to look like I am actually in control of the attacks. Man games that use more than one button for attack suck.
Is that about right?
I\'m not saying it\'s a perfect game--for one thing the look-spring sucks and I\'d like to chose not to have it inverted, but adjust to it, give it a chance, and you might find a game with style.
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yes, i played it for a few levels
after thru the same level 3 times (halo desease), i got bored
the games a letdown, just like most hyped xbox games (hunter, morrowwind, enclave, etc.)
seems the only ones i like are the ones noone talks about
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you more than likely missed Naflagar\'s Pit(sp?)
That level was very impressive...though extremely hard.
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Originally posted by mm
GOOD LORD!
that describes 95% of the xbox library!
ddaryl, where are ya to see this?!
Yeah, WTF happened to 300+ developers. I have sustained myself on Halo and Morrowind long enough. It\'s not that there are no decent games.... but damnit they\'re just no fun. I feel like i am in one blurry little Xbox carrousel where every developer is the same.
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Inverted Aim!?! Gah! I don\'t like that :)
But I give it a go. I\'ll go on a renting spree this weekend (maybe) and post my impressions in here.
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Originally posted by mm
the games a letdown, just like most hyped xbox games (hunter, morrowwind, enclave, etc.)
seems the only ones i like are the ones noone talks about
I agree with GV with the same levels over and over. This is no joke. I went to pit 3 and damn! Samething. But its still a great old school game. But the letdown games? Morrowind and Enclave is no let down. Morrowind will take a person a year to do 100% of all the quests in the game. It\'s too long!! This kind of game play will kill someone. Enclave I think is the sweetest game to hit the Xbox!
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Hunter is a fine game.
Morrowind has got excellent reviews from every source.
Enclave is a great game. Even though I only had time to play the first four levels (and the bonus one), it was fun.
Yeah I hated the inverted on GV. I now have switched from normal to inverted with every game--it took a while to adjust (especially with FPSs), but it\'s now as if its always been that way.
The levels aren\'t the same--not like in Halo (and even in halo the only levels that are really bad are the snow and library ones). They are different parts of the same level, so the texture pack used it the same. It\'s not as if the archetecture is the same.
And it\'s not as if GV is the only game that reuses textures.
And I\'ll say this: what has any other console had this summer that has been better. The xbox isn\'t the only console that is going through a drought right now, although you wouldn\'t know it if your only source of information was this forum.
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hmm, did you just do what you think you did Watch..
the genious is at it again!
First, you go and say Morrowind got excelent reviews, then you say Enclave is a great game.. but neglected to mention it got HORRIBLE reviews.. geeze
Double standards.. Your word is aparently better then reviews, but reviews are just fine if you never played it, and/or did not like the game.
The ps2 had a better lineup this summer, and actually the gamecube did too with Ethernal Darkness..
Your definition of a fine game must be substantially lower then ours. Your incredible anti-anything-othe-then-ms mind just can\'t see that.. I really do feel bad for you, you could be enjoying other games, but you stick in one place. You have my sympathy
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Originally posted by Chrono
First, you go and say Morrowind got excelent reviews, then you say Enclave is a great game.. but neglected to mention it got HORRIBLE reviews.. geeze
Double standards.. Your word is aparently better then reviews, but reviews are just fine if you never played it, and/or did not like the game.
The ps2 had a better lineup this summer, and actually the gamecube did too with Ethernal Darkness..
Your definition of a fine game must be substantially lower then ours. Your incredible anti-anything-othe-then-ms mind just can\'t see that.. I really do feel bad for you, you could be enjoying other games, but you stick in one place. You have my sympathy
Chrono enlighten us with what made PS2\'s lineup this summer so mcuh better xbox\'s. And same could be said about you being anti-anything-that-is-m$. And I\'m sure he doesn\'t want your "sympathy".
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First of all Bozco, why do you defend him.. geeze, defend someone worthwhile.
Based on games that came out in the past 3 months:
PS2:
80\'s
Aggressive Inline
Medal of Honor: Frontline
Wipeout Fusion
Mark of Kri, The
70\'s
Freekstyle
Way of the Samurai
Sky Gunner
DropShip
Stuntman
Romance of the Three Kingdoms VII
Test Drive
Xbox:
80\'s
Aggressive Inline
Elder Scrolls 3: Morrowind
World Series Baseball 2K3
70\'s
Hunter: The Reckoning
Outlaw Golf
Crazy Taxi 3
Enclave
Test Drive
Which had a better lineup?
Lets throw gamecube in here:
90\'s
Eternal Darkness
70\'s
Bomberman Generation
Lost Kingdoms
The gamecube was the only console with a AAA title over the summer..
Interestingly enough it, this summer alone, ties the xbox on AAA titles.. geeze
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Oh, poor stupid Chrono.
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hmm, did you just do what you think you did Watch..
the genious is at it again!
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Take a reread numb-nuts. And that genius would be who?
Fristly, Enclave didn\'t get horrible reviews. It got fair to good reviews. I disagreed. Morrowind got excellent reviews universally, and how many times have I said I disagree with those reviews? How many times have I said it\'s a horrible game?
I disagree with reviews all the time. I\'m not some automoton that hates all things MS. I\'m not a complete joke around here. And how laughable is it that you are giving me a lecture on fanboyism?
So GC wins the summer with one game release? That\'s an interesting theory. If reviews are gospel to you, and it got mixed reviews mind you, why are you going on about it?
PS2 has had a better summer? What has been out that changed the world? Did you take your finger out of your nose to pick at straws instead?
And please, before you insult my intellegence, perhaps you should take a look at your last post. I find you stupider every time I read a new post from you. There is something seriously wrong with the educational system in Florida. I can\'t believe that it considers your prose as passable english.
Here\'s a starter tip: look up the difference between then and than you moron.
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And please, before you insult my intellegence, perhaps you should take a look at your last post. I find you stupider every time I read a new post from you. There is something seriously wrong with the educational system in Florida. I can\'t believe that it considers your prose as passable english.
Here\'s a starter tip: look up the difference between then and than you moron.
Don\'t tell me your going to drag this back into grammar again.. so sad watchdog, I really thought you were better then that.. I was wrong I guess*
*disclamer, I never actually thought that
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So GC wins the summer with one game release? That\'s an interesting theory. If reviews are gospel to you, and it got mixed reviews mind you, why are you going on about it?
It was the only AAA ranked game this summer averaging 90.7% in reviews. Thats hardly mixed reviews.
Even MGS2 got "mixed reviews"
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Wipeout Fusion didn\'t get 80s neither did Kri.
Plus you left out games for all systems, and by which bible are you basing these scores on?
And please do look up the difference between then and than.
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Wipeout Fusion didn\'t get 80s neither did Kri.
Plus you left out games for all systems, and by which bible are you basing these scores on?
Yes they did, sorry to hear you can\'t belive thats possible watch.
Once again I sincerly sympathize you.
Mark of Kri 82%
http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/21843.asp
Wipeout Fusion 83%
http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/4502.asp
I left out games on the xbox and gamecube list if they were previously released on another system NOT in the summer (IE splashdown).
The list may not be 100% pefect, but it does give a general idea of what was released this summer and what they ranked.
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And please do look up the difference between then and than.
Whats the matter, losing the debate so your resorting to Grammar again?
Grow up watchdog
Whats even sader... he edited that sentence in.. geeze
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Whatever. You brought my intelligence into question, I put you firmly in your place--that being among the barely literate. :rolleyes: Perhaps you shouldn\'t throw stones--that way they wouldn\'t come back at you.
Convienent that you left out splashdown for that reason . Also, the infamous gamerankings.com counts review scores from official magazines/sites that skew the numbers and don\'t mean shit.
Go to Gamespot--neither of those games were 80s.
EDIT: and one thing I just noticed, add Splashdown in, and xbox has the same number of 80s than does the PS2 for the summer, but the xbox has the highest rated game of the eight and the highest overall average. Do you ever make a valid point, Chrono?
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not since he came back, no. He used to be a very agreeable person.
Eric Jacob
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mark of Kri > anything put out on xbox this summer
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Originally posted by mm
mark of Kri > anything put out on xbox this summer
yup the same can be said for over here in the UK
Fianl Fantasy 10
and
Medal of Honour
has put anything that the x box can do to shame
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Just to point out: Wipeout Fusion deserves better than 83% in my eyes. Main flaw is that it\'s too hard - yet, I think this is one reason why this game is so damn good.
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I haven\'t even tried Wipeout, in truth, I\'m just going by Gamespot. Kri, well maybe if it could keep the framrate over 20 I\'d be impressed (aren\'t you a framerate whore mm?). I can\'t help to think what your impressions of Kri would be had it been an xbox title. I\'m certain the framerate would be in much more of a problem. It\'s a pretty standard 3rd person action game with a repetitive fighting engine and stealth...yeah that\'s original.
And Medal of Honor is just a medal of honor game...again. We\'ve had this disscussion--you\'re a glutton for MOH games, with that I cannot argue. But if this were an xbox title, wouldn\'t you prefer to play the PC version?
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Frontline isn\'t on PC :p Allied Assault is... guess where mm played that? :p:D
It all comes down to opinion obviously :) For what I\'m interested in, PS2 had the games released recently that I preferred.. although not having played a game like Mark of Kri I guess I have to remain on the fence... for now :)
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I think Wipeout Fusion shines because of Zone-Mode, in which you can compete against other people over the world. It\'s pretty damn adictive and is probably my most played game.
I think the US version has also been a bit fixed, so less bugs to worry about. If I were you - definaltey give it a rent. It might or might not be your cup of tea. Only one way to find out...
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i see no slowdown in mark of kri, yer grasping for anything
there is fundamentally something wrong with you as a gamer, if you do not appreciate that game
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Same could be said pretty easily about you mm.
First of all Bozco, why do you defend him.. geeze, defend someone worthwhile.
Whatever respect I had for you just flew out the window.
mark of Kri > anything put out on xbox this summer
I\'d rather play Morrowind than anything that came out on the PS2. It goes both ways.
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Shit mm, who has the blinders on now?!? No slowdown in Kri? You\'re saying it runs at 60 FPS then? It better knowing your standards (it doesn\'t not even close). So a rock solid 30 then?
lol--he who classfies Halo as a game with crippiling slowdown, cannot see it everywhere in Kri. Try getting more than two enemies on screen. Sometimes even less than that.
Your eyes must be closed.
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if mark of kri isnt locked at 30 fps solid, then id be suprised, and ive played thru 4 levels so far (about 4 hours in)
im a gameplay wh0re remember, and mark of kri oozes with that
xbox zealots are the one that are concerned with graphics and little else
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This is from Gamespot:
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Unfortunately, the game suffers from quite a bit of slowdown--even with as few as three enemies onscreen in some of the game\'s larger areas--and the settings themselves aren\'t particularly inventive or detailed.
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Here\'s what LiC had to say:
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once you get more than a couple enemies on screen and everyone is attacking the engine starts to stutter and in result the frame rate drops
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It drops frames, I\'m still unsure of how you missed it.
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like my copy of halo, it must be defective
:)
here\'s how i look at things, i look for gameplay 1st, if that falters (which mark of kri doesnt), i go for visuals, if THAT falters (halo fails both), then i bitch insistantly
but thats not how a zealot sees things
"DOOD, did j00 peep those textures! oh it runs at 13 fps, replays the same levels over and over, and im gonna go blind?! i dont care, this is the shit and teh PS2 killah!"
its like gameplay isnt an issue with these guys
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Whats pathetic, Chrono, is you constantly bring up OTHER people\'s opinions to debate.
How about you actually play the games and form your own damn opinion and some of us might take you more seriously?
And the argument that Watch praises anything MS is so done and tired. Read a couple of threads where he remarks how lousy the graphics are for Chase and how retarded DOA 3 Volleyball is.
Whereas you have never said a single positive comment about anything MS.
Who\'s the fanboy, again?
And for a supposed English major, you\'re a moron.
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watch is just about as console open minded as i am
:)
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Well that Halo suffers from gameplay is an opinion that is in the vast minority. Read that gamespot review of Kri, they feel the same way I do. I\'m not saying it\'s a bad game or that the framerate ruins the experience, I\'m saying it\'s not a great game. It\'s solid.
It\'s a game that is on par with Outlaw Golf, Hunter or Enclave.
I enjoyed Kri about as much as I enjoyed Hunter--it\'s a fun game to rent, play around with, then send back.
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*grumble*
hate when watch makes rational sense that i cant argue with
*grumble*
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Kinda like Eik.. only not so Nintendo friendly
:)
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yeah, i learned not to argue with Eik a long time ago
its could only bring death, destruction, and possibly even doom
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Moral of the story: What you bitch for one, you should bitch for the other.
Especially when Mark of the Kri\'s slowdown is MUCH more frequent, and much more apparent.
The end.
Eric Jacob
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And for a supposed English major, you\'re a moron.
At least you agree that Watch is a moron,
thank you :)
Whats pathetic, Chrono, is you constantly bring up OTHER people\'s opinions to debate.
You must not debate much, in a common debate you use other peoples/experts opinions to proove a point. Your personal impressions on a game in a debate are worthless, bias effects them too much.
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As much as I love Mark of Kri - I suggest playing it until level six and then looking at the slow down. The engine does start to drop frames and it is somewhat disturbing.
Sorry, mm!
;)
As for the rest of this debate - I\'m staying clear away from. I\'ve debated Halo, I\'ve debated the XBox and everything else. It just isn\'t worth getting into again.
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we\'re not supposed to call names anymore you stupid hippies
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Originally posted by ooseven
yup the same can be said for over here in the UK
Fianl Fantasy 10
and
Medal of Honour
has put anything that the x box can do to shame
:laughing:
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keep laughing "mr letdown"
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Previously posted by Chrono:
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I\'m in the final weeks of college English.. Don’t mess with me in grammar
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It\'s funny that you forget your own major Chrono... :rolleyes:
Now, I could be wrong, but I\'m pretty sure Ashford was talking about you (especially since I\'m no longer an English major).
Once again, Chrono makes an ass of himself and we must ask ourselves, who is the moron?
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Originally posted by mm
keep laughing "mr letdown"
But the replys are so damn funny! I can\'t help it. :smokin:
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I give Pstwo credit. A lot of members wouldn\'t take such abuse and keep trying to sell the same product over and over, but he hangs right in there.
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Watch, you were an English major?
I thought you were a computer major since thats your job...
And yes, I was talking to Chrono.
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uhh, watchdog
you just keep proving to me how stupid you are
geeze,
how in that sentence does it seem like I have a english major?!?
You must have never taken any college classes period or you would have know that EVERY SINGLE Associates Arts degree requries english Comp 1 and 2
and, Where the heck did you get that from too Ashford?
I think your becoming a dumb*** from hanging around with watch"god" too much
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Chrono--you don\'t have a single friend in this place--you must really enjoy the attention. How in that sentence does it not seem like you are in English: "I\'m in the final weeks of college English". :rolleyes: Aparently, I\'m not the only one that thought that.
Anyway Ashford, I have an honours on Com Sci and M.A. in English. I\'m basically tech support for the Arts and Social Science; I work with IT, so the sensitive Humanities people don\'t get intimidated or confused by harsh and unforgiving technology. :)
It\'s a good gig--anything computer related that I do over there is a cause of astonishment. Lol.
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LIC, whos abusing pstwo?
personally, i like the guy (although its impossible for me to show it)
besides, he never asked to change his name from pstwo to xbox
and last but not least, he\'s far better without his sidekick, rast
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Yawn...
Another thread ruined by the lamers...
Watch, will you do the honors?
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Sorry to have to open this just to reply but...
This is exactly why I posted new rules. This turned from a console debate to a personal one. You have ruined a thread. If I see it happening again, I will start deleting posts.