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Playstation/Gaming Discussions => Gaming Discussion => Topic started by: AlteredBeast on August 02, 2002, 12:22:46 PM
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I mean, the Gamecube is a year and a half newer than the PS2, but it\'s games are hardly better looking. Sure, the textures and output is a lot cleaner, but there are alot of things that the PS2 can still touch the GC in. Maybe GC should have gone the standardized PC way, so that it could compete with XBox, which is far and away more powerful in nearly every aspect?
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I see you bitching about how XBoxes PC architecture is holding it back, yet it is MUCH more powerful than the other two systems, as is shown by EA\'s assessment. EA also goes on to say how weak GC truly is and goes as far as saying if it wasn\'t for their kids, they wouldn\'t develop on GC at all :p XBox\'s PC arch. makes it easier for developers to get what they want out of a game, especially effects not possible on the other two systems, and concentrate on other things, like experience. Right now some developers are creating particularly empty games. But this happened with PSX, Dreamcast, even PS2. XBox is just getting it\'s \'shine with no substance\' right now. You can already point out the next classics though, Panzer Orta, Ninja Gaiden, Steel Batallion, and Project Ego all look amazing, yet also sound like they will be amazing gaming experiences also.
The only thing that is holding XBox back is it\'s lack of HUGE success al la PS2. When developers make games especially for XBox, games turn out truly beautiful. DOA3, GUNVALKYRIE, and Halo could not be done on any other system in the quality they are right now, I will tell you that.
Eric Jacob
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From what I\'ve seen, DOA3 could very likely be done on GCN at the same quality. Bloody Roar looks similar to it.
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I see you bitching about how XBoxes PC architecture is holding it back, yet it is MUCH more powerful than the other two systems
WOW!! :laughing:
The only thing that is holding XBox back is it\'s lack of HUGE success al la PS2.
I see the time is coming.................
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me concern is that these games, that we expect so much (Panzer Orta, Ninja Gaiden, Steel Batallion, and Project Ego ) will have the enclave desease (you know, more puff - less cream)
thats is whats holding the xbox back, dissapointment after dissapointment in these niche games
where-as nintendo has franchises coming out its ass that have yet to be released
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Visually Enclave is extroidinary. Beyond that, I have never died so many times in a game and had to do the same damn long level over again so many times. It\'s called poor gameplay, X-Box has plenty of it.
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Originally posted by The Hurricane
Visually Enclave is extroidinary. Beyond that, I have never died so many times in a game and had to do the same damn long level over again so many times. It\'s called poor gameplay, X-Box has plenty of it.
That\'s not gameplay if you have to re-start a level over again. It\'s called work on skills. :laughing: Nah, I can\'t believe I have to pick you as the chosen one. j/k
So hows the solid gameplay? The truth.
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Enclave is extrodinary graphically. Everything from the menus to the textures are super high quality. I have it rented and running around with the Huntress and popping orcs with her bow is awesome.
The problem is the bad save system. If it weren\'t for that, it\'d be a solid tie over game. Nothing extraordinary, but fun for a bit. The gameplay is there.
Now the reviews I read said there are some serious bouts of slow down. I\'m only on mission 3 and haven\'t seen any, but I\'m sure it\'s coming. That could put a damper on my impressions.
But so far, I haven\'t been that frustrated by the save system (it\'s pretty easy at the begining).
I\'m sure I will though, already there seems to be inescapable damage events (boulders falling from the edge of a building etc.) That kind of thing pisses me off, but so far it doesn\'t damage you too much.
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"I see you bitching about how XBoxes PC architecture is holding it back...."
[size=10]How silly, the Xbox does not have a PC architecture. Its got PC parts, but it does not have a PC architecture. LETS MAKE THAT CLEAR RIGHT NOW.[/size]
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Originally posted by Blade
From what I\'ve seen, DOA3 could very likely be done on GCN at the same quality. Bloody Roar looks similar to it.
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Bloody Roar cubed doesn\'t touch doa3 graphics. GC couldn\'t reproduce that game either the producer even said ps2 or gamecube couldn\'t come close.:)
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Wow, you sure proved me wrong! I guess I\'ll just have to go back to the drawing board and think up something new to debate! Maybe I should debate that the producer of DOA3 is a jackass! Good idea? Yes!
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Originally posted by Blade
Wow, you sure proved me wrong! I guess I\'ll just have to go back to the drawing board and think up something new to debate! Maybe I should debate that the producer of DOA3 is a jackass! Good idea? Yes!
LOL!!!!!!!!! For real you really think bloody roar graphics compare to doa3? LOL!!!!!!!!!! I"m sorry but thats too funny bloody roar doesn\'t even look good as tekken 4 or vf4. LOL!!!!!!
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just so you know, youve said LOL!!!!!!!
4 times within one hour
damn pitiful, but you make me miss docwiz
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Originally posted by mm
just so you know, youve said LOL!!!!!!!
4 times within one hour
damn pitiful, but you make me miss docwiz
Your point is? Whats wrong with that?
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Originally posted by Watchdog
Nothing extraordinary, but fun for a bit. The gameplay is there.
Nothing extrordinary? It\'s the best looking of everything I seen on the xbox to date. See what I told mm about gameplay. Never believe game reviewers.
Originally posted by Watchdog
Now the reviews I read said there are some serious bouts of slow down. I\'m only on mission 3 and haven\'t seen any, but I\'m sure it\'s coming. That could put a damper on my impressions..
And yes again about serious bouts on slow down. See guys it\'s soild!!!!
Originally posted by Watchdog
I\'m sure I will though, already there seems to be inescapable damage events (boulders falling from the edge of a building etc.)
Yes!! WOW! You have to see the boulders falling!! :eek:
JUST PLAY THIS GAME!! GOTY 2002!! :D
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i really dont know what to do with you two
any suggestions?
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Love us more! :laughing:
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Originally posted by pstwo
Love us more! :laughing:
LOL!!!!!!! I agree.........:D
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errr no, im thinking a vacation
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Avatarr, you have an Xbox too? :D
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no, he just likes to yell incoherently
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Originally posted by mm
errr no, im thinking a vacation
mm need me to go with you.:D :D
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no, as funny as it may seem to you
i wouldnt be the one leaving for a bit
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Ugh, just give them both temp bans. I\'m sick of their idiocy and how freely they display it. Come on MM, be the power!!
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Originally posted by Ryu
Ugh, just give them both temp bans. I\'m sick of their idiocy and how freely they display it. Come on MM, be the power!!
Our idiocy? Ahh we arn\'t the ones with the problems that post. All we do is posting something about xbox and get step over them. :rolleyes: Idiocy............... :nut:
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Everyone, including xbox fans, are calling you guys idiots. It\'s sad you don\'t see it, but you are the only ones who don\'t see it.
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I\'m an xbox fan, but I\'m long past sick of it.
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Originally posted by Ryu
Everyone, including xbox fans, are calling you guys idiots.
Which ones, the bias ones? :laughing:
Anyways congrats Watchdog on being the next mod. :D
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pstwo, as in the past, ive allowed you free reign of posting any xbox related news out of mutual respect and courtesy
rastalant has become a bad influence on you, and i do not appreciate you guys treating my forum and my members like a playground
im sorry if you do not understand what im trying to say, cause this will be the last time i do it
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If you have a problem with the way we are doing things, then PM us.
I am sending you a PM right now.
-Ginko
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I mean, the Gamecube is a year and a half newer than the PS2, but it\'s games are hardly better looking. Sure, the textures and output is a lot cleaner, but there are alot of things that the PS2 can still touch the GC in. Maybe GC should have gone the standardized PC way, so that it could compete with XBox, which is far and away more powerful in nearly every aspect?
What makes you thnk the GameCube has a non-PC-type hardware?
XBox\'s PC arch. makes it easier for developers to get what they want out of a game, especially effects not possible on the other two systems, and concentrate on other things, like experience.
Impossible? :rolleyes:
How silly, the Xbox does not have a PC architecture. Its got PC parts, but it does not have a PC architecture. LETS MAKE THAT CLEAR RIGHT NOW.
No offence, Avatarr, but you don\'t seem to know much about what makes the Xbox so PC-ish. I suggest you look for some articles on the net... or explain to us, why the Xbox does not have a PC architecture.
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It doesn\'t have a PC architecture per se.. but it\'s remarkably close.
There are some things (like the unified memory that Xbox\'s parts use to great effect) that aren\'t found on th\' PC.
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It doesn\'t have a PC architecture per se.. but it\'s remarkably close.
And refering to which console? Xbox or GameCube?
There are some things (like the unified memory that Xbox\'s parts use to great effect) that aren\'t found on th\' PC.
What? Just because it has a UMA, it\'s a non-PC architecture? Please... I am speaking of CPU, the GPU etc. Just because it has a UMA, no AGP doesn\'t mean it\'s not a PC architecture. Oh and then we have DirectX.. do I need to go on?
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I\'m not arguing. I know the specs.. I know what\'s going on here.
It\'s got all of the workings of a PC architecture, but it\'s not your typical PC. It has differences. Not many though.
Okay, buddy?
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Of course it\'s not your typical PC! But from a developers stand point, it is very much a PC. As I said, it might have a UMA, it might not have the typical northbridge bottlenecks, but from a developers point of view it is damnwell a PC. That\'s all I\'m saying and that\'s all that\'s relevant. And yes, it does hold back the Xbox and in the very same sense even the GameCube. The PS2 has a significant advantage thanks to its "non PC architecture". People don\'t believe me? Fine, I\'m not the crusader to defend it from fanboys. You\'ll see for yourself once Xbox and GameCube max out and PS2 is still there being optimized.
Oh and one more thing Blade, please don\'t take this personal as it isn\'t ment like that in anyway. I just get a little tired when members post things that they don\'t fully comprehent. Many things are not as they seem and I fortunately have a job to back me up with my knowledge. Nothing against you. I\'m here for one thing, and that\'s for debating. That\'s all.
EDIT: Blade, this post btw, wasn\'t directed to you in the first place anyway... just thought I\'d clear that up before you reply. ;)
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mm ok I get your point but am I the one who start something? What about when I get step on too.
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*hugs Seven*
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pstwo, if you want an answer yer gonna have to reword yer sentence, cause i have little idea what you said
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That\'s ok. Are you smoking in your picture?
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I think Pstwo meant to ask..
Is he the one who always starts something and what is he suppose to do when someone "steps" on him.
I believe that is what he meant.
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thanks LIC
pstwo, the problem is solved
very few people have a problem with you, so continue on yer way
the clown of console debating was removed, thats all
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Ok :eyemouth:
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I heard that they just opened a Fight Club in Pittsburgh..
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Rules of Fight Club
1. You do not talk about \'Fight Club\'.
2. You do not talk about \'Fight Club\'.
3. When someone yells "Stop" or goes limp, or taps out, the fight is over.
4. Only two guys to a fight.
5. One fight at a time.
6. No shirts, no shoes.
7. Fights go on as long as they have to.
8. If this is your first night at \'Fight Club\', you have to fight.
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You are not your f**king video game console!
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I thought I needed an avatarr change for a little bit. :smokin:
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Rules of Fight Club
1. You do not talk about \'Fight Club\'.
2. You do not talk about \'Fight Club\'.
When speaking of the rules of fight club, aren\'t you breaking the first 2 rules? Oh right... the first rule of project mayhem is you do not ask questions. ;)
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Originally posted by Bozco
I thought I needed an avatarr change for a little bit. :smokin:
This has been happening a lot lately. When refering to your little pic, please use one R for the world avatar. If you use two, I can charge you fees for name usage.
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Sorry for the copyright infridgement. :p
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that\'ll be $3.50
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dont forget I get 20% of that fee, thanks
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So $2.80 to Ava... and $.70 to mm. :p
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What stupid ****** *****
I guess things will never change huh?
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121 stupid post and counting
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121 stupid post and counting
I posted in the wrong thread, sorry for living
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You know...
There is an Edit button...
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What was this thread about again? Oh, and is Ginko a mod? *goes and checks the Forum select page to see who the mods are*
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You know...
There is an Edit button...
Yeah I know, too lazy...zzzzzzz
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This thread is spent...say bye bye.