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Playstation/Gaming Discussions => PS3 Discussion => Topic started by: StAnZo on August 09, 2002, 08:49:51 AM
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Right, i just got through playing NFS: Hot Persuit 2 demo on the offical playstation2 mag
(it\'s the racing special edition in the UK - "Playstation2 Greatest Hits Vol 8")
Anyway, it lets you play for about 3 minutes but at first glance.. all is not well :0(
The biggest problem immediatley is the framerate, it chuggs along at about 30fps and fluctuates anywhere
between 30 to 60 fps. now, this is not what i expected but it is bearable as the game plays pretty well.
One strange thing i found is if you turn off the HUD display and play in-car view it runs a whole lot better.
I\'m hopefull that this is just as it\'s the demo and i assume that it will be sorted out for release, well fingers crossed eh.
Anyway, there isn\'t really a whole lot to tell you about the game except it looks well enough but wether or not i\'ll fork
out £40 is another matter. i\'d like to see the framerate sorted out and probably an option to turn off certain hud items
as the rear view mirror gets in the way.
The circuit that has been included is only quite short.. prolly one of the shortest circuits i have played on a nfs game
so this doesn\'t allow me to pass a decent enough judgement on the game.
The matrix style panning is triggered automatically if you jump over ramps or you can trigger it yourself via one of
the shoulder buttons. i had high expectations of the game but was dissapointed initially at the framerate
once i\'d played it a couple of times i got over it esp if you turn off the hud and play in-car
The game has promise but i\'d say rent it first then consider the purchase.
StAnZo
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What about the Toca Race Driver demo anygood ?
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Bad framerate? EA trademark!
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Originally posted by MAKAVELIUK
What about the Toca Race Driver demo anygood ?
The only availabe demo on the same demo cd was in video form.
it\'s been available before on one of the DVD Video mags.
There hasn\'t been a playable demo of Toca Race Driver available as of yet. i\'ll be picking it up on the 23rd tho\'
The review in PSM magazine gave it 9/10 so it looks well.. i love the speed blur that codemasters have incorporated
into Toca Race Driver. I\'m expecting big things from this title.
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argh! I do hope they sort it out... thanks for the impressions. I\'ll definately look out for that demo overhere. :)
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Sorry i thought you said Official Playstation 2 magazine uk which has Need for speed & toca race driver demos on it but your talking about a special edition issue
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the Toca driver demo is not that good, the graphics & handling are pretty bad imo and has put me off buying, the more I see & read about it the less I like, shame as this was a must have until this morning :(
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hmmm havent seen the mag yet,, any good games on it that aint out yet?
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demos are........
Toca (not impressed)
need for speed 2 (great fun)
aggresive inline skating (not tried it)
downforce (not tried it)
Desert Storm (very good, if you like war games but seems to randomly jump back to opening movie at a critical moment :mad: )
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toca unimpressive? argh.. that would be a shame, after all this game is being hyped a lot because of the graphics alone. I bet it will still have great gameplay though.
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all I can say is dont believe the hype, it\'s shocking :)
hard to judge the gameplay from the demo as there are only two short laps to drive, one test drive and a quick race with other cars, wouldnt be so bad if it didn\'t look so nasty, but it does and that\'s enough to put me off buying.
maybe the final game will be better, but this 80% complete and nothing like the quality I was hoping for.
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Fugue,
The TOCA demo is a very, very, very old build of the game. This has been discussed further at the granturismo.com forums.
Stanzo,
I have also heard at the same forums that NFSHP2 demo is also a very old build of the game. It is supposedly a build of the game when it was originally supposed to be releases (March 2002). The framerate is why the game got delayed. All is supposedly fixed now.
I have big expectations riding on both games.
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it\'s only a few week to release and this doesnt represent something close to the quality of the game? it\'s 80% complete and NOTHING like the screens you posted at the end of this thread
http://www.psx2central.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=23559
the ones posted by knotter8 although not good quality are a better guide to what I\'m seeing on the screen.
try the demo yourself and you\'ll see what I mean, not a case of no jaggies but jaggie hell, I wanted to be impressed (and am not just knocking the demo for the sake of it) but have to say its a huge disappointment.
I wouldn\'t buy it based on what I\'ve seen.
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Damn, this is a serious blow to my consideration on picking up Toca Race Driver on release day.
I\'ll prolly now rent it first or check it out in town before parting with money.
I\'m going to try to pick up that magazine with the playable demo on it and see what i think..
right now, i feel a little bit depressed and saddened at what was and is one of my most anticipated games in ages.
But i\'m holding out on hope as Racer has pointed out.. Thanks man.
Thanks for the info guys.
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I was looking forward to TOCA. It also gets good reviews in various mags.
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Well I\'ve been watching the demo a fair bit at my local EB and it looks EXACTLY like the good screens that ##RaCeR## posted. EXACTLY. Expect high quality grapics from V8SuperCars/Toca Race Driver.
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then they must have a different demo, it looks nothing like those screens.
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Fugue...
Originally posted by ##RaCeR##
Fugue,
The TOCA demo is a very, very, very old build of the game. This has been discussed further at the granturismo.com forums.
That means they have completed the game, but the demo they released was an early build. You know the warning they put up on demo discs (well they used to)? That the demo on the disc does not represent the quality of the final product?
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yeah i understand that, & appreciate what you are saying, and see it on most demos which for the most part DO actually give you a good impression of the final product, even if they are only 75/80% complete.
I\'ve yet to see a finished game that has a had the huge improvement needed to get close to the quality of those screens, it just doesn\'t look like that. You\'ld have to the jaggies to appreciate it.
I\'ll rent the game when it comes out and see what has been done if anything, I hope they can deliver the goods but to be honest based on what I\'ve seen I doubt that\'ll happen, If it does i\'ll be happy as this has been a must have until the demo.
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Well I\'m just going by the rolling demo\'s I\'ve been watching at EB and they are stunning. Best Racing game graphics since Gran Turismo (although is it 60fps?), on any console.
Perhaps I have been duped :confused:
:) I hope I\'m right and you\'re wrong, otherwise there will be a lot of disappointed people :)
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Well, i have now had a chance to play the demo and i can honestly say that it really isnt that bad.
yeah, the graphics are bad in places - namely the slowdown that causes bad graphics and i\'ll explain...
The game imho isn\'t taking advantage of the new way that coders are takling the jaggie issue.
The screen is updated by showing the odd lines in one frame then showing the even lines in the next frame (interleaved)
this is the old way of doing things. now most ps2 devs are drawing the screen from top to bottom in 1 pass
and upto as many times as 60 fps.
The slowdown causes the odd and even lines to be mixed creating a low-res look (pixels are double size!).
it\'s hard to explain but i gather that some of you know what i mean.
but looking beyond this, it plays ok. and i suppose that i\'ll still pick it up.
i will post more findings after the missus soaps are finished.. then i\'ll crack on with the demo again.
Oh, BTW.. if you get the demo put the language into austalian, then you will be able to race on a different circuit
than you would in any other language.
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thanks for clearing that up Stanzo.. So is this a old demo or not? Maybe someone can tell who has seen those "impressive vids" and played this demo...
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I believe that those high quality screenshots that we have been fed are from either the PC version or the X-Box version.
I have seen PS2 footage before from a dvd, i think it was PSM here in the UK. so i was aware of the state of the game
but it didnt put me off from wanting the game. the demo that i\'ve played is very simlar.
It\'s a shame that there isn\'t a replay of the race when your finished in the demo as i could check it alongside
that old footage that i mentioned earlier. if they improve the framerate in the races then i cant ask for much more,
but the screenshots that are going around the net are definatley not those from the PS2 version.
There just too detailed and anybody who is honest enough with themselfs would have seen this a long way off.
There almost Pre-Render quality. imho the PS2 just cant cope with the geometry and texture resolution.
Take a look...
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The texture resolution aswell as the overall Resolution is definatley not here in the PS2 version.
Look at them and check out the high detailed textures aswell as the slanted edges of objects.
A top end PC would even have trouble displaying such textures.
their either fabricated images or dev shots imho.
Just dont hope for visuals of this quality, or you definatley will be disapointed.
I just hope that the last 20% of the games creation is heavily based around code optimisations and tidying up
any loose ends in the graphics department. one thing that bothers me is that when the slowdown kicks in
is that the game physically slows down. it actualy takes longer to travel from point a-b when the slowdown kicks in.
as you can imagine, when you\'ve entered a corner at maximum attack then the game slows down, you loose all sense
of what the car is doing as the flow of speed is altered aswell as the response from the car.
but lets keep hope that that is on their top priority list.
There is aslo a NEW PC Demo available now but it\'s an iso file. you need to burn it onto a cd to play it.
it can be found at http://www.bhmotorsports.com . apparently it\'s from a valvoline oil promotion. there distributing the demo
on the front of thier oil cans. i have played it and i have a decent enough rig.
AMD 1.333 Ghz
GF4 TI4200
512 DDR
yeah, it looks better but for some reason i still prefer the PS2 version. the speed blur that codemasters has added to
the PS2 version is absent on the PC demo and this makes a huge difference. also the game chuggs along unless you
change the graphics settings and turn them down (check my specs). Like i said,
for some reason i prefer the PS2 demo.
Mmmm... 12 more days...
Edit: Yep, i just played the PC Demo again and these shots are definatley more PC than PS2
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Stanzo, I know what your saying, and I respect that, but c\'mon.
This is the PS2, and I cannot see why it couldn\'t handle those kinda graphics featured in those screens. I mean, the screens really look no better then GT3, a game which is claimed to not use the full potential of the PS2\'s hardware, and GT3 is a game which is now a year and a half old.
Now, I dont wanna get into some technical debate or anything, but I cannot see why PS2 cant do what its been claimed too in those screens and vids. TOCA has been in the making for some time now, so whilest 80% sounds \'almost complete\' in matter of fact it could very well have been a build from March! Most graphic tweaking happens in the absolute final stages of production. I just cannot see how Codemasters could make a game like Collin MaCrae 3 look so good and not do the same for TOCA, considering CM3 has not been underdev for as long.
I dunno, I hope that the game is alot better then the demo, but if it isn\'t then its put me in serious doubt over the PS2\'s power. I suppose I will have to buy an XBOX.
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I agree with Racer. And at that, I really hope that the demo is a really really old build, because if this demo does reflect the graphics of the game when it ships, then I feel that Codemasters all tricked us with nice dev/PC or Xbox screens all along.
Take a look at this screen posted in the other thread:
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It\'s clearly a PS2 shot (thanks to the remote at the bottom left). This shot is also no worse then all the other ones posted further up in this thread, so if the PS2 version doens\'t look like this, then I think we can all agree that Codemasters have ****** us left right and center.
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I respect the post that racer had made but i\'m gonna go out on this one.. and please forgive me if i\'m wrong
but i believe this shot to have been doctored.
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i await the finished version and i hope that i can be found wrong but seriously, i doubt it.
It looks like they have pasted a controler image on the lower left hand side. remeber, these images
have been available for months now.
Like i said before, i\'m going out on a limb here stating that i dont believe the ps2 is capable of such displays.
Please forgive me if i am wrong but i stand firm on this. i believe that Codemasters have been hyping the game up for a
long time and i just think that they have pulled a fast one.
StAnZo waits to be proved wrong.. Roll on 23rd..
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well, all I can say is, I hope we are all wrong here and that this has a simple explenation. If this is doctored, then I really lost a lot of respect from who ever doctored it (codemasters?).
On a side note, I do believe the PS2 can do these graphics - maybe not just by Codemasters. If this game does not have the hyped up graphics we were all waiting for, then (and mark my words) Gran Turismo 4 will.
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Originally posted by seven
On a side note, I do believe the PS2 can do these graphics - maybe not just by Codemasters. If this game does not have the hyped up graphics we were all waiting for, then (and mark my words) Gran Turismo 4 will.
Agreed. Polyphony are the masters at Racing Games and they have pushed the hardware right from the off.
But my love for GT3 has dwindled a lot but i think that thats due to losing my 97% complete save :0(
i really cant find the heart to start playing it again so i believe that i wont play GT3 again.
GT4 will be another deal tho\'. Esp since the online side should be set up.
GT Online.. Pure Bliss :0)
But i dont think that Codemasters can push the PS2\'s capabilitys anywhere near that of Polyphony.
CMR 3 has underwhelmed a lot of people in the press and i have heard rumours of people saying it\'s McRae 2.5
The big differences are retirements and the story mode but graphically it\'s still just like CMR2 (PC Version)
The only really good effect is the Rain/Snow on the windows.
man, i sound like i\'m getting sour so i\'l stop. on a better note...
I\'m still looking forward to playing Toca Race Driver and i know that i\'ll enjoy it no matter how it looks.
StAnZo.
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I dunno, I hope that the game is alot better then the demo, but if it isn\'t then its put me in serious doubt over the PS2\'s power. I suppose I will have to buy an XBOX.
hah! there\'s logic for you :rolleyes:
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I couldn\'t agree more and if TOCA does turn out to have that amazing gameplay as seen in the previous parts, then I\'ll probably pick this one up too. As for rally games... didn\'t hear that of CRM3 but now that you mention it, yeah it does seem that way. I don\'t know anyway, if WRC2 turnes out to have those incredible graphics and the realism of GT to back it up - I\'ll probably get that then. Still some time off, so I\'ll see. :)
As for GT4.. wow, online. It\'s THE racing game I\'m looking forward to... Apparently they showed some footage of it on TV here (the footage that was supposedly showed to the press behind closed doors). Apperantly, it\'s amazing. I don\'t know what to think of it though.. I quite doubt it, eventhough my friend swears it was GT4. IMO, if it was, the internet would be full of it... although I have absolutely no doubt that it will look aswell as play amazing.
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Some Comparison Shots that iv\'e found:
PC / X-box:
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PS2:
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(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Feu.playstation.com%2Fiw_images%2F%2Fassets%2Fimages%2Fpreviews%2Ft%2Ftoca%2Ftoca_06_big.jpg&hash=0f9dea90a41ffd2e28702bac185dce0708d493b6)
(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Feu.playstation.com%2Fiw_images%2F%2Fassets%2Fimages%2Fpreviews%2Ft%2Ftoca%2Ftoca_07_big.jpg&hash=737836bcd38652b79c0fab7c15c297748530d10e)
Well, this is what i believe them to be. bear in mind i have now played both the PC Demo (new valvoline one)
and the PS2 demo.
This gives a better perspective on what the demo on PS2 looks like.
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There is a big difference on those shots. I have checked the official codemasters site and the screenshots there look great. The only problem is that is doesn\'t state which version they are from. This only leads me to believe that those on the official site are PC shots.
What a bummer!
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Uhh.. exactly the same? Except with Jaggies?
Don\'t expect the XBox version to be jaggy free either :)
And why would the PC/Xbox version be on PLAYSTATION.COM ????
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Originally posted by Bobs_Hardware
Uhh.. exactly the same? Except with Jaggies?
Don\'t expect the XBox version to be jaggy free either :)
And why would the PC/Xbox version be on PLAYSTATION.COM ????
because maybe they got their screens from somewhere too (obviously assuming they were PS2 in-game shots, when infact they are not?).
The point is, all those nice screens we\'ve been seeing in the past and believing were PS2 shots are probably more likely Xbox/PC shots of the game. Either that or the demo StAnZo has played is a very old build and does not reflect the actual game.
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Well, I\'m just going by the videos I saw, and they arent up with the quality of the original one (obviously, the resolution is insane... INSAAAANE!!!) they still look great.
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Originally posted by Bobs_Hardware
Uhh.. exactly the same? Except with Jaggies?
Don\'t expect the XBox version to be jaggy free either :)
And why would the PC/Xbox version be on PLAYSTATION.COM ????
No, No, No..
The texturing in the Pc/Xbox shots and others around this forum are a lot higher quality than those shots
i posted above. those screens i posted came from the same website bob.
The difference is too big. the highres screenshots were the first to have been released to the public.
These lower res shots were released after those higher quaity ones.
I also believe that the X-Box will have FSAA and have a higher resolution
(it houses a GF4 and FSAA is easy on that system).
So why did it go from looking so good to not so good...
mmm.. obviously the shots must be from 2 different platforms.
This is why i\'m trying to let people know that it just doesnt look as good as those hi-res shots on the PS2 in it\'s
current demo-form. Also if you get a chance, check out the official PS2 mag (UK)
The review has mixed screenshots from the PS2 version and Pc/X-Box version. The difference is there and it\'s noticeable
Also, another thing to bear in mind is that the X-Box/PC versions are not due for some time. They can only get better.
I\'m 90% sure i\'m correct but i wish i wasn\'t
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actually, I am overly confident that the lower quality screens were the first to come out. The better screens followed just after... anyway, what does it say on the demo? I have more and more doubts that it\'s a new demo. Must be the build from E3...
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I believe the demo is a 80% build of the game
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not to say this isn\'t true, but where exactly does it state that it is a 80% build? On the CD, before the Demo starts or in the magazine?
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Well, Codemasters certainly have alot to answer for. If there is such a big difference in the final game between those screens that we have been lead to believe are from the PS2 and what the actual game looks like, then I won\'t buy it on PS2. I think this whole thing has been a marketing scam, SONY included, as I am sure they were all well awear that the game doesn\'t look that good (that is if it doesn\'t).
Reason being, is that at playstation.com.au, they have had about 4 playtests of the game, stating how wonderful everything is graphically on the PS2, and how impressed they were by Codemasters. I think we have all been taken for a ride.
Also, the game is more expensive in UK and AUS then any other game. I know that in AUS, its being launched for $109.99 when normal launch games are only $99.99.
Oh well, we\'ll see.
And Bob, wouldn\'t that be funny if those vids we have been seeing t EB turned out to be from the PC or XBOX versions with a PS2 logo at the bottom...
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Yep, well this thread has certainly thrown up some questions.
I remeber these shots to have been the first released:
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Check The Text above ^^
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Here are a couple more for comparison to the high res released shots.
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Source: http://igm.lib.net/shot/trd/trd.shtml
These are screenshots from the old PC Playable Demo:
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I Apologise if i\'ve posted too many screens in this thread. there will be no more by myself.
Just compare these to the ones above. Somethings not quite right.
This site: http://www.game.uk.com/lowdown.asp?tab=ps2&guide_id=477
This has some screenshots labeled as PC.
i\'ll leave it upto you to decide now and investigate further.
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Stanzo, Do you have screens of the new PC demo?
It would be interesting to see the difference.
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All Screenshots for the new demo can be found here: http://www.bhmotorsports.com/RDRIVE/screenshots
It\'s the version that i have been playing on PC (just the 09.08.2002 screenshots)
But just cross check them with others there. it still doesn\'t look as good as those other released screens at
http://www.codemasters.com/tocaracedriver/english/screenshots-ingame1.php
Also, the demo no longer needs to be burned to CD. there is a no cd patch here: http://www.bhmotorsports.com/download/240
Download the demo here: http://www.bhmotorsports.com/file/211
It\'s 170 megs but if you have broadband, i suppose it\'s worth it. right check out http://www.bhmotorsports.com
for all the extra info you need.
The demo will come down as an .iso file but you can extract all the files by simply loading the .iso file into Winrar3.
I\'m not sure why, but the new Winrar supports ISO extraction.
Extract it to say c:\\Toca Demo then install it from there. once it\'s installed, extract the 2 exe\'s from
TOCA_Race_Driver_Demo_no_CD.zip. into the installed directory of the demo and overwrite the old versions.
Edit: Well, i said i wasn\'t gonna post any more screens but... THESE ARE PS2 SHOTS!
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There the cleanest ones i could find. there are a lot of mixed shots here: http://racedriverhq.m4driving.sm/template.php?page=screen&map=toca
Notice the Speed Blur effect. it is still absent on the PC demo that i have played,
but it is intact in the demo version on PS2. that\'s a big giveaway as compared to a lot of the other shots shown.
Yep, it still looks good, but the main reason for all these pictures that have been posted,
is purley to show people that codemasters are releasing screenshots that are simply Dev shots as ingame ones.
The PC demo screenshots dont live upto those screenshots that they released and i have heard that the PC
version will be released shortly after the PS2 version. Sony have simply got a contract with Codemasters
for exclusivity for 6 months so that the X-Box owners have to wait.
So, if those released shots aren\'t PS2/PC or Dev shots, then hell.. The X-Box version looks bloomin\' good.
You Decide...
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Ok, so Stanzo, back on topic, what do you think of NFS? Are the graphics better then TOCA? Hows gameplay compare to older NFS games?
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And Bob, wouldn\'t that be funny if those vids we have been seeing t EB turned out to be from the PC or XBOX versions with a PS2 logo at the bottom...
no, as I previously stated, the videos I saw was the game playing at my local EB
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So Bob, your saying that someone was actually playing it?
I know the video thats played at my local EB is the one thats on this months OPSM2. They have it looping (looks like they taped it to VHS).
It has the PS2 logo at the bottom of the screen. It certainly looks impressive, alot better then those old screens Stanzo posted, but it was still obvious that is was realtime.
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Originally posted by ##RaCeR##
Ok, so Stanzo, back on topic, what do you think of NFS? Are the graphics better then TOCA? Hows gameplay compare to older NFS games?
Graphically the demo looks better than the Toca demo. better resolution and higher detailed environments.
I feel that this could be rather decent. i found some of the police chases quite amusing and the hectic racing
is excelent for this type of game, a really good blast imho. i love the slo-mo angles when you jump off of ramps and
when you get big air over crests. it plays very much like NFS High Stakes from the PC.
It\'s going to be a winner. i just think the overall package is going to be great.
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Yes, NFS has always been one of my favourite series. Its always just been different in a unique way.
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Most demos are old. Remember Frontline? Buggy as hell.. Lots of framedrops, draw in, buggy animations, textures that flickered ect.
The Ratchet and Clank demo that was sent out to the press is also old.. There was a newer demo present at E3.
GT3 demo was old compared to what was available for the press at that time.
TOCA is probably a old demo too..
Im not holding my breath though. Ive looked at several videos from Codemasters site and the physics looks really weird.
Nothing comes close to Gran Turismo anyways :)
(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fw1.480.telia.com%2F%7Eu48019550%2F6.jpg&hash=724596e50c02533acae77e434f58b80c5212d4b5)
Great use of lightning (https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.diamondtalk.com%2Fforums%2Fimages%2Fsmilies%2Fcooltu.gif&hash=2131190447148d060df75f596387c991559d858d)
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Yeah, but Fastson, the review in the latest opsm2 mag has got plenty of screenshots from the PS2 version
and they indeed look no better than the ones i posted earlier. i take it that they were taken from the finished game.
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Originally posted by StAnZo
Yeah, but Fastson, the review in the latest opsm2 mag has got plenty of screenshots from the PS2 version
and they indeed look no better than the ones i posted earlier. i take it that they were taken from the finished game.
I have no idea. Im going to wait and see.
Not holding my breath though.