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Playstation/Gaming Discussions => Gaming Discussion => Topic started by: Chrono on August 22, 2002, 07:30:26 AM
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As you may know, Crazy Taxi 3 was xbox exclusive...
Great for xbox owners and sega right?
Well, aparently not
Take these sales from July:
PS2 CRAZY TAXI 16,077 (330,877)
XBX CRAZY TAXI 3 15,135 (15,135)
GCN CRAZY TAXI 4,521 (108,874)
Yes, you are reading that right
The ps2 version of Crazy Taxi (the crappy port) outsold the brand new xbox version which include the entire original Crazy Taxi..
Yet they made it xbox exclusive..
So smart Sega! Right on your way to becoming the #1 3rd party..
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sega is gonna take midway\'s "console whore" title before long
they have one chance to retain any ounce of respect in my eyes, and that is PDO
if they screw that up, thats it
they become another 989 studios to me
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Still, if you compare those figures to the number of people who own Xbox v. the number of people who own ps2, the xbox has a pretty good games sold / systems owned ratio.
Ehhhh..agrgrg.... what am i talking about. I\'ll buy an Xbox the day it plays Xbox, ps2, ps1, and NES games.
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Still, if you compare those figures to the number of people who own Xbox v. the number of people who own ps2, the xbox has a pretty good games sold / systems owned ratio.
Then what explains the GCN sales of Crazy Taxi?
that system has even less in the USA then the xbox
(but owns the xbox in japan)
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Originally posted by Chrono
Then what explains the GCN sales of Crazy Taxi?
that system has even less in the USA then the xbox
(but owns the xbox in japan)
I was comparing the Xbox and ps2 versions, not anything with GCN. I guess we\'ll just have to see how the next few months of sales pan out for Crazi Taxi.
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You just never give up with your incessant whining of how Sega ignores the PS2, will you?
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Meh
Get an Xbox if you want to play Sega games. I could care less if they weren\'t in the PS2.
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you will care when sega takes its next step
in the closet from lack of sales
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While those sales #s show clearly Sega continues to make stupid decisions, the why part of the question remains cloudy.
I remember reading someplace not too long ago Sega will be focusing mainly on PS2 after this fall so maybe they\'re finally learning.
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Yah Heretic.. they keep saying the ps2 is their primary platform.. but month after month they show nothing.. E3 Comes by and they show Shinobi.. and the INCREDIBLY short Gungrave (movies are longer then that game.. and no reason to replay it).. and thats it.. and months pass and still nothing.
Seems like a bunch of BS to me.
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Personally I want to see Sonic3 on PS2.BTW:Sega said that is readying 45 games for PS2(including VF4 Evo).Where the hell are those games?We see more great Sega games on XBOX than PS2.
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Personally I want to see Sonic3 on PS2.BTW:Sega said that is readying 45 games for PS2(including VF4 Evo).Where the hell are those games?We see more great Sega games on XBOX than PS2.
If its true then I take back everything I said.. however they have said similar things in the past and nothing happened
Phantasy Star 5 would make up for eveything IMB (in my book)
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I don\'t know what the time lag is between what a dev says they will do and when we see it in terms of actual games but I\'m fairly certain it will take the rest of this year before Sega comes thru on the commitments they made over a year ago (when they might have thought xbox had a chance to make a real impact)
45 is the number of Sega games I heard in the works for PS2 as well, with a remaining 15 or so to be split between xbox and GC.
Oh no...
considering Sega\'s track record, I wonder if that might be a bad sign for PS2?
Nah
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GunGrave sucks.Lets hope the majority of the 45 number wont be trash.
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I dont know what to say.. Sucks for SEGA..
IMO they are overrated.
*waits for the cavalry*
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I dunno, Sega has plenty of good stuff on PS2.. albeit a lot less than their Xbox content. Less than GCN too.
Shinobi looks good, VF4 rox0rs.. errm.. Rez.. and Crazy Taxi. I guess. Yes, no, yes? Bah, you guys are right!
I already got multiple Sega games on the Xbox and GCN.. Super Monkey Ball, Soccer Slam, GV, JSRF.. 4 already.
I intend to buy Shenmue II, PDO, perhaps VF Quest.. and definitely VF4 or a variation if it gets ported.
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Another thing, what the heck is the excuse on why PSO is not on the ps2?
Its on the xbox.. iIts on the gamecube.. its on the DC
but not on the ps2!
PS. I would never buy PSO, but i\'m just using it to further make my point
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I don\'t care about what\'s not coming to the PS2, I care about what is. There are 45 Sega games coming to the PS2, do we have a list of the games?
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PSO is not on the PS2 for two reasons.
Sonic Team dosen\'t develop for the PS2. This has been said noumerous times already. If you enjoy Sonic Team games.. get a NGC.
PSO for the Xbox is, from all accounts, simply a streight port of PSO v.2 from the DC with voice chat added. Nothing more, nothing less. If you want improved graphics, more characters, more lvls, more rares, more options, more anything.. you\'ll have to get Episode 1 & 2 for the NGC.
MS probably just came to a agreement with Sega to port over PSO v.2 for use as a Japaneese XboxLive launch title.. with pending US retail release. It must have been an easy fight too.. as do you really think Sony would fight so hard for an already established and successful online RPG when FFXI (considering Squares ties to Sony) and Everquest (Veriant, Sony owned) are just around the corner??
I\'ve heard rumblings about Overworks doing a PSO2.. an offical sequel which will be more of a MMORPG than an MORPG. Overworks is comprised of the original Phantasy Star series development team and also is slated to work on PS2 games. (They were doing the port of Skies of Arcadia before it got canned I believe)
Why is it so bad that Sega is developing for the Xbox that you have to go and make a whole new thread just dogging them for their decision? Are you upset that you won\'t be getting as many Sega games? Well.. tough shyt. That\'s how life works.. and I can imagine Xbox fans are every bit as upset that they\'re not getting 1/10th as many games as PS2 owners.. not to mention the ones they DO get are usually sloppy ports several months later.
Christ.. you\'ve moved from soley trashing the Xbox to trashing companies that are developing for them. You\'re twisted you know that. I just have one question.. WHY? Don\'t go listing a PS2 vs. Xbox feature and game triat... I want to know your personal motivation for this childish lil crusade of yours.
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There are 45 Sega games coming to the PS2, do we have a list of the games?
No, beacuse not a single one has been annouced.. its just a number sega threw around.. like normal.
Why is it so bad that Sega is developing for the Xbox that you have to go and make a whole new thread just dogging them for their decision? Are you upset that you won\'t be getting as many Sega games? Well.. tough shyt. That\'s how life works.. and I can imagine Xbox fans are every bit as upset that they\'re not getting 1/10th as many games as PS2 owners.. not to mention the ones they DO get are usually sloppy ports several months later.
You seem to be one of the very few in disagreement here, even blade agrees that sega is screwing the ps2! Making a whole new thread? WTF this forum is basically dead, and your making a big deal outta me making a new thread.. geeze
and no, i\'m not upset that i\'m not getting the sega games, for I own a GC and only fanboys would be upset. PDO is a shooter, I won\'t miss it, and I already played shenmue 2..
Christ.. you\'ve moved from soley trashing the Xbox to trashing companies that are developing for them. You\'re twisted you know that. I just have one question.. WHY? Don\'t go listing a PS2 vs. Xbox feature and game triat... I want to know your personal motivation for this childish lil crusade of yours.
I hardly see this as childish, if it were childish I would not have some evidence to back me up, and I would just be complaining.
BTW, what other developers do I "trash", i\'d like to know.
Also, why should I have a "motivation", its just painfully obvious how stupid sega is, the Dreamcast failing and sega going 3rd party was probably the biggest news of last year. This also shows why sega failed as a company before, beacuse they have absolutly no buisness sense.. and if they keep this up its likely they won\'t be making games anymore.. but aparently that does not matter to you cause i\'m "childish"
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Unless of course MS is just paying them that much money... which is pretty sad. Sony bought GTA3, however that was out in the open, instead MS buys companies behind closed doors, and keeps the info secret and has them say things to make the other console look bad
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Nice attempt to dodge the question, but you still haven\'t answered me.
Anyhow, if you don\'t care about Sega games.. they why bother making a post? Why tear down on them? Critiquing is one thing.. but you\'re on a Holy War. Why aren\'t you trashing Sega\'s decision to develop original content for the NGC over the PS2? If this were truely about Sega.. you\'d be complaining on both sides? NGC and Xbox\'s worldwide sales are compairable.. how is it any less a stupid decision to make Sonic NGC exclusive.. or Super Monkey Ball, or PSO Ep 1 & 2. You\'re as transperant as a sheet of glass Chrono. You\'re complaining because they\'re supporting the Xbox more than the PS2.. and it\'s because of your Anti-MS slant. How much do you even KNOW about PDO????
I call you childish.. because instead of just making your point known and leaving it at that.. you drive it into the ground. Sales chart after sales chart.. endlessly harping on about how it\'s doing in Japan.. you just won\'t shut up.. even tho we\'ve heard it a thousand times before out of you. Almost makes it seem like you\'re saying to be "cool".. because you know there is a bit of anti-MS sentiment in the OT forums and you\'re jus going with the flow. Or moreover.. you\'re opening the floodgates jus a bit farther in hopes someone will take notice.
Just my observations tho.
You\'re "Sega\'s a failure" triat jus now further proves that. We all know Sega knows d*ck about running a buisness. I think 10 YEARS of watching the videogame market would have taught everyone that. Yet you dig it on up because it helps you slander MS. Tell me.. when were you ever trashing Sega and their buisness decisions before Sega put so much time into the Xbox Hmmm?
BTW, what other developers do I "trash", i\'d like to know. - Chrono
Oh I dunno... how about Bungee, Oddworld Inhabitants, Bizzare, Tecmo.. jus off the top of my head.
BTW: I LOVE that lil edit at the bottom of the page... it\'s complete irrelevance (aside from being negetive to MS) jus reinforces my point. Really.. you don\'t think Sony or Nintnedo does this? LoL@Chrono
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Nice attempt to dodge the question, but you still haven\'t answered me.
Sonyfan.. please learn to read
you must suffer the same problem as watchdog
"why should I have a "motivation", its just painfully obvious how stupid sega is, the Dreamcast failing and sega going 3rd party was probably the biggest news of last year. This also shows why sega failed as a company before, beacuse they have absolutly no buisness sense.. and if they keep this up its likely they won\'t be making games anymore.. but aparently that does not matter to you cause i\'m "childish" "
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Why aren\'t you trashing Sega\'s decision to develop original content for the NGC over the PS2?
What original content?
Super Monkey Ball 1 and 2?
they are getting shafted almost as much as the PS2
How much do you even KNOW about PDO????
Its a on-rails shooter, sorry if I don\'t like the genre.
endlessly harping on about how it\'s doing in Japan..
You must have pissed the post a couple weeks ago (and the lack of me talking about it recently) about me giving up on that.. the xbox is doomed in japan, no point in talking about it anymore.
Tell me.. when were you ever trashing Sega and their buisness decisions before Sega put so much time into the Xbox Hmmm?
I trashed them throughout the Dreamcast, and through the Sega CD, 32x.. etc.. You think i\'ve posted here my entire life?
FYI i\'m leaving the 26th for a much better forum that I can talk about games in my free time.. the main forum in this board just gets neglected. This is a off-topic board it seems
Oh I dunno... how about Bungee, Oddworld Inhabitants, Bizzare, Tecmo.. jus off the top of my head.
MS Bought, MS bought, Who the hell is that, and Tecmo (which deserves all the bashing) from everybody
it\'s complete irrelevance (aside from being negetive to MS)
So contradictory... tsk tsk
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There\'s a serious lack of riddlin up in here
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There\'s a serious lack of riddlin up in here
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exactly why i\'m leaving on the 26th.. its just pointless anymore
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...nevermind...
Chalk up another ruined thread.