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Playstation/Gaming Discussions => Gaming Discussion => Topic started by: pstwo on September 12, 2002, 10:12:49 AM
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On another board some members got Tekki and post some impressions. Now I\'m thinking of picking it up!
Justin-
I had a quick bash of Tekki in Bic today. Not enough to give decent impressions, but anyway, in short:
The controller is ludicrous. I mean, with the foot pedals and wires, you practically need a dedicated room to play the game. That\'s gotta be commercial suicide in Japan.
Having said that, the game looks awesome. It\'s a hardcore mech fan\'s dream. The visual style is one of the coolest I\'ve seen -- you are IN the mech. Look up, and water droplets form on the screen, refracting the scenery. The image distorts and flickers slightly like real video footage, and the illusion is convincing. It looks like you\'re playing some other game\'s intro cut-scene, not a real time rendered world.
Control, frankly, boggled me. Very few of the millions of buttons seem to actually do anything, and are probably only used once if at all. The stick feels very solid and doesn\'t wobble. Nice. It\'s just a massively hardcore experience. Stomping around the hills, reading the topological map, targetting distant mechs, very slow but game probably gets quite geographically strategic as the game developers.
Jeffry McWild-
At least three people at work bought it. And, uh, one of those people doesn\'t have an Xbox (!!).
The game is cool! But it is very overwhelming with all the buttons. I don\'t know what effect all the buttons and the switches have on gameplay, or if you even use half of them during the game. Though it is cool to throw on all five of the tiny switches and hear your mech go bbbbeeEEEEOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOP like the hard drive from hell warming up. The eject button is also teh r0x0r.
BTW the developer is listed as "Nude Maker" hehe
The game can NOT be played with the normal pad.
BTW there is no force feedback. I just noticed tho, that the buttons LIGHT UP and are analog lights (meaning, they can slowly glow on/off!). It looks totally rad and it reminds you what buttons to press at certain times during the game.
Man this game is cool but I\'m hungry, making rice, brb
I\'ll post more as it comes. :D
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i still cannot believe they wont allow the game to be played with the regular controller
what a way to totally limit and kill yer sales market
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Yeah, if I ever play this game.. it\'ll be if you can rent the controller with the game..
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no rental house is gonna carry this
give a $200 controller to a kid to take home? i think not
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Sales do not equal quality. Who would want to play this game without the controller anyway? That is like playing VO without the Twin Sticks!
I am buying this game when it comes out in America, if we get it in at BB, I wouldn\'t doubt it would be nearly half price!
Eric Jacob
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rediculous
is like thier company said
"hey i know! lets take the lowest selling console and make the highest niche title we can, and well include a astronomically overpriced controller, and we\'ll spend lots of money on packaging it. BUWHAHAHAHA!"
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so how much do you pay for this package???
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MM: Yeah, sadly.. that\'s basically what they\'re doing here. *shakes head at Capcom*
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that will run you $200+ shipping as its not gonna be sold here in the states
they\'re stupid, but theyre not idiots
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Give \'em a chance, MM.. they could surprise you. ;)
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Not sold here in the states? Last I recall, Capcom announced and commited to bringing it over to the states under the name Steel Battalion.
If so - I\'ll pick it up. I\'d hate to import an Xbox for it...
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uggg, i seriously dont have room for that, even if I got it where the hell would I put the thing?
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Altered...
The difference is VO could be played with the regular controller and was more than adequate. The Twin Sticks just made it more fun.
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Yeah it\'s not coming to the states! :laughing: :bounce:
But look here. :eyemouth:
http://gamestop.com/product.asp?product%5Fid=210196
Hello? Come out of that cave!
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Really though, mm, you are getting behind.
I don\'t think Capcom is worried about Sales, and neither is MS, Capcom receives a hat full of money and MS gains Japanese respect, it was a mutual agreement that this game will not sell over 40k worldwide.
Or perhaps Capcom was trying out their technical arm, though? The game is DAMN impressive looking and very interactive, and they are already talking about online multiplayer for Tekki 2.
Or maybe since Capcom knows that anyone that owns an XBox in Japan has got to either be rich, hardcore, or a combination of the two, it is guaranteed some sales. Hell, it got number 4 on the Japanese daily chart. Of course, it is a day in which a GC game leads and there are 2 XBox games in the top 5, so it has got to be a pretty strange day overall.
Can\'t wait for November, this will be MINE, especially if BB carries it, which means nice discount. :D
Eric Jacob
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ok, so it is coming out
like im expected to keep up on the latest xbox news when i havent played mine for 6 months
lol, its even more expensive then i said
i was wrong, capcom isnt stupid, thier idiots
you would really spend 250+$ for one game?
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250 for one game? That\'s ludicrous!
*looks at halo*
*looks at Xbox*
Try 350! ;) [j\\k]
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The only way Microflops could make this deal appealing, is to shift the decimal point one place to the left...and to have the posters to show this.
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Actual Size ......honest
now childern can we all say "over priced Gimmic"
:laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:
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You\'re hilarious...
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* Nu blinks.
... He is?
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gimmick? Because it is on XBox?
Hey You! Pikachu, Seaman, and SOCOM are all gimmick games because of the microphones?
Eric Jacob
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I think it looks cool. :)
Not that I\'d ever shell out that kind of money for one game though.
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altered, you cannot compare a 10$ hardware addon to a 210$ one
its a gimmick title
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You have crossed the line into \'angry consumer\'. You are no longer a gamer, I am sorry.
What does price matter? If anything, it being as expensive as it is makes it LESS of a gimmick. The game looks cool, and if Best Buy carries it, I will definitely buy it, especially if the sequel has online play, like they have discussed previously. Piloting a mech just sounds so frickin cool and it got a 37/40 from famitsu, better than Mario, Phantasy Star Online, and even you!
Don\'t knock on it because you have neither the funds nor the space to purchase this game, obviously someone has, since it was 4th on the daily charts when it came out, behind only PSO and Sega GT 2002.
Eric Jacob
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:rolleyes: @ Ooseven. Yet another, "I\'m joining the thread, just to get my MS bash in" comment...But, anyways..
Yeah, I\'d pay $250 for this. We\'ve already been over this. I like Mechs, I love Capcom and I\'m a "collector" , as you called it Mm. It\'s my duty to shell out the cash for the game.
It is obvioulsy not marketed towards the general Joe-Smo audience, but who cares? If someone has the cash for it and it has the solid Capcom gameplay that I expect, than I think it\'s money well spent.
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Nu...
Take a lesson from Clip...
He noticed the sarcasm in my post...
;)
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collection and obsession are two different animals
piss 260+$ away
makes no difference to me
i can buy 5 other non-gimmick titles that dont come with a future dust collector
OR, buy PC mechwarrior that you already have a 106 key controller, AND already has online play
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I admit that for the most part it\'s not a wise purchase, but I am slightly obsessive when it comes to Capcom. It\'s one of those things, that I\'ll buy and anytime I\'m showing off my collection I will pull it out and explain how I paid out of the ass for something that really wasn\'t worth it. I can\'t help it, I love doin\' that.
;)
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then thats fine
if a gimmick title is that important, i can respect that
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Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
:rolleyes: @ Ooseven. Yet another, "I\'m joining the thread, just to get my MS bash in" comment...But, anyways..
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/me scratches head
errr no i just think its a piss poor idea ...well along with the rest of MS strategy
$250 for a Game and Controller..pure madness
gimmick? Because it is on XBox?
Hey You! Pikachu, Seaman, and SOCOM are all gimmick games because of the microphones? -by AB
No..... even if the Tekki controller was for the PS2 or even a PC addon i would still think it would be a waste of PLASTIC and good money. Sorry but i beleve that no SINGLE game is worth $250[/b][/u]
also its because you ARE Foreced to use it rather than have the option to (Thank God that Racing games don’t adopt the same strategy) , plus i would like to point out that microphone add-on can be used in a vast majority of other titles.....thereby increasing its usefulness.
Examples
Planned games
Dekki Voice (Adventure for the PS2 were the mic is used to involve game play...you can ues it to issue commands to your police dog as well as being used as part of the game itself)
other uses
online in game comm\'s (team / Gobal talk)
Aid to HUD management
this on the other hand only seams to be created for SOLE use on the Tekki games (i know a sequel is planned)
It is just my opinion that this package proves that a fool is easily parted with his/her money.
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/me does not argue the fact that it is a gimmick title, with Mm. It just doesn\'t effect my purchase.
;)
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like i said, thats cool
i used to be the same way, thats why i own over 20 consoles and hundreds and hundreds of games
one of my ex girlfriends used to call me the posterboy for electronic consumerism
took a few years, but i dont have that urge now to have that which i covet
i can only hope that glimmer of dissapointment doesnt happen weeks after dropping 260$+ for this gimmick title
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Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
/me does not argue the fact that it is a gimmick title, with Mm. It just doesn\'t effect my purchase.
;)
its ok matey i have found something even more expensive
its a "GT3 Game Rig" which includes
2 Force Feed backs
1 Stainless Steel "Rig" that alows space for peddles
2 racing bucket seats
all for £349
:eek:
/me strokes his trusty Dual Shock 2 while saying "its ok baby i won\'t trade you for the world ;)
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WOW! Tekki sold 12,200 since 9/12/02! Going great!! :D
Tekki = (#6 Xbox Capcom “S‹R 12,200 12 200)
Check this post out!
http://pub111.ezboard.com/fgamingageforumsfrm17.showMessage?topicID=16713.topic
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1st week sales
lets see how it does 2nd, 3rd, etc
XboxGamers would be impresssed if the game sold 8 copies.
BWUHAHAHAHAHA!
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I don\'t think it matters 2nd, 3rd, or 4th week sales. If the first week managed to sell this many for a game that costs about 160 US dollars is pretty damn good. It will selll 20k total in Japan which equals alot of money, and will probably repeat that success in America.
Some people were saying, quite ignorantly, that this game wouldn\'t even break 10k worldwide. All sales are now is cleanup.
Eric Jacob
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cleanup for whom?
i dont understand yer excitement
lets say is does sell 20k at 160$
what about another title selling MILLIONS at 45$?
take away the gimmick controller and sell it for 45$
wanna make a bet if it would sell 10x or 20x the amount of copies?
cleanup for whom, i repeat
so its gonna sell at 260$ (US price) the same as it did in japan at 160$ (rough japan price conversion price)?
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Originally posted by pstwo
WOW! Tekki sold 12,200 since 9/12/02! Going great!! :D
Tekki = (#6 Xbox Capcom “S‹R 12,200 12 200)
Check this post out!
http://pub111.ezboard.com/fgamingageforumsfrm17.showMessage?topicID=16713.topic
Sorry to steal Rast\'s line but !
What ? ! ?
12,200 Sales in a Week how pathfetic !
we are talking about the land were games
*coff*FFX*coff*
&
*coff*GT3*coff*
can sell over a Million units in one Week (in fact in some cases just a few days / hours)
please Stop your Hurting me !
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Originally posted by ooseven
Sorry to steal Rast\'s line but !
What ? ! ?
12,200 Sales in a Week how pathfetic !
we are talking about the land were games
*coff*FFX*coff*
&
*coff*GT3*coff*
can sell over a Million units in one Week (in fact in some cases just a few days / hours)
please Stop your Hurting me !
LOL!! But Tekki cost $160 not $49.95. In just 6 days selling 12,200 and at hardware sales in Japan at only under 3,000, Tekki is a success.
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not a success
12000 is gimmick sales
lemme know in a few weeks how its doing
also, take 49.95 (rough cost of GT3) and mulitply it by 4 (rough cost of tekki) and divide by over 1 million
what do u get?
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But its still good.
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no
selling a Massive amounts of units for being a Stellar game is GOOD !
selling this over priced game aimed at a select few is far from good, and its also far from what the X box realy needs.
the PS2 / X box gap is growing day by day ...along with MS shrinking credability.
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well, pstwo
ill agree that 12000 is pretty good, but its far from a success
and ooseven has a strong point
the xbox doesnt need these kind of titles, especially in japan
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Piloting a mech just sounds so frickin cool and it got a 37/40 from famitsu, better than Mario, Phantasy Star Online, and even you
:laughing:
Game will (most likely) not be released in Australia. And I won\'t be able to rent it. So I won\'t play it.
I would like to tho :(
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From what I saw at E3 the game was hellafa popular in the three days there I could not get near that controller and there was always a crowd hanging around. Every game has a gimmick or a selling point I like the idea of games that push the boundries and add somthing new. This one is more extreme compared to whats out there now but stuff like this is the future of gaming. Another gimmick there was a new vid card(matrox) that allows you to use 3 monitors in order to get your right and left views without having to use the hat great for racing games and flight sims. When I told my friend that I tried it out and how cool its was he laughed his a$$ off calling it a waste. To each his own...I hope that developers keep looking for new ideas and gimmicks one will eventually become popular and attract a lot of gamers. :smokin:
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MS basically went to Capcom and said "Make your dream game. Whatever it may be"
They came up with Tekki. This game is guaranteed to not sell ove 50k worldwide, but what it does for MS is gain developer confidence that they will support the creators vision. It also gains Japanese mindshare, since this is by most accounts an excellent game, and very Japanese-centric. It is beautiful, tough, and a mech game. What could be better for mindshare than a game like that? Especially for Japanese consumers. It helps it to overcome the "American system with American games" stigma.
Eric Jacob
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A better game to gain mindshare would be an epic RPG.
A fraction of the cost, 10X the sales, and much more mindshare.
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m$ does not need gimmick titles that give a dev artistic freedom
they need guaranteed million sellers
tekki is not a system seller
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Amen to that. People do not buy a system because they think MS will support a developers vision, all because of a $250 "gimmick title". People, including the Japanese would buy the system if there was one killer game that tended to the needs and wants of the target audience, in this case an RPG for the Japanese.
Then again, I think MS should been working on an epic RPG from the start, so that they had one ready for the Japanese launch. If nothing else, they should of been pushing for a third party to develop one for the Xbox. Instead, they\'ve ignored what the Japanese want for the most part.
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I don\'t know how they ignored what the Japanese want when they have approached Square and Enix about making RPGs for the,. Sega and GameArts have probably been asked, too. These are the only companies that can consistently sell RPGs in Japan. You think if MS had an epic RPG, even an EXCELLENT one, it would\'ve sold anything? This is an american console in Japan, probably one of the reasons why some companies refuse to make games for it.
Eric Jacob
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I\'ll agree with that also. Part of the stigmata of being an American company over in Japan is hurting them, but another part of it is simply they have nothing that is truly appealing to the Japanese gamers. Honestly, I think the Japanese launch was a half-baked idea on MS\'s part and now they need to play catch up in the worst way over there and a gimmick title like this isn\'t going to help them in the long run, now are is it?