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Non Gaming Discussions => Off-Topic => Topic started by: §ôµÏG®ïñD on September 17, 2002, 05:45:56 AM
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I\'m wondering what Gels you guys use?
Has it made much improvement etc?
I\'m getting Arctic Silver 3 Gel in around 2 days.. Hopefully it\'ll lower my cpu temp.
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artic silver here also on my P4
it might lower a few degrees, if that
a better heatsink is where the money is
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When i got my CPU I got the sink supplied with it. Normaly as far as i know, AMD don\'t supply Sinks with there processers. But they have started to supply them. My sink is pretty big. A tornado sink and fan are meant to be good. My cpu runs lower they my mates one with this sink or fan combo. So i\'m sure my sink is kewl. I just need better thermal gel. :)
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whats yer cpu temp now?
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I always wondered whats a good temp, mine always seems hot, I think it was 53c or somthing.
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Artic Silver 3 is the best thermal paste.
Good temps for an Athlon are around 100-120 degrees farenheit.
I have a crap heatsink/fan and my thermal paste is all dried up and wasted so I get around 150-160 once even reaching 180 :eek: :eek:
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Is there a good program to check temp? I know I saw it in my bios, but don\'t know if there is a quick way to get the temp.
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my comp doesn\'t overheat, I don\'t know what the hell you guys do to your shit.
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Your comp probably isn\'t a p4 or Athlon Xp... Mine runs at 49c Gets up too 54c when coding or playing games. I wanna try to get it around 45c. For Athlon Xp processers mine is already pretty good.
Vid, Don\'t worry about your cpu if it\'s intel. Intel based boards have thermal diodes that stop power being pushed through the cpu when they get hot.. Amd don\'t, so AMD processers can fry. There are programs around that tell you your cpu temp in desktop. I got mine with my motherboard.. Try looking at your MB manufacture website and they may have a program.. There designed for certain chipsets etc.
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Sweet. I rule.
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athlons are rated to 90c max, about 195f :eek:
my P4 never gets above 100f, or about 38c
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I have P4, 2.4 so it\'s got a fair share of clocking it does. I really don\'t notice any slowdown, perhaps I\'m use to it. What\'s most effective in lowering the temperature?
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Originally posted by mm
athlons are rated to 90c max, about 195f :eek:
my P4 never gets above 100f, or about 38c
You speak of the threshold on my processer.. my shut off temp is around 60c. Athlons Xps are always hotter then p4s. The rate u want a Xp to sit at is around low 30s to high 40s. :)
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is there anyway to see how hot your computer is running?
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There\'s programs that allow u to see your MB and CPU temps. The program i have came with my mb. Check your MB manufature\'s site. They may have a program there.
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Don\'t order from coldcpu.com they sent me wrong gels and didn\'t respond to any of my e-mails.
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welp, i\'ve added the Arctic silver 3 too my cpu. I\'m getting 41c and it gets up too 44c when playing games.. It\'s what i wanted. VERY good for my processor.. This is the first day too, It\'s meant to drop another 2c to 5c over the next 75 hours etc. So hopefully it gets lower. I think the gel i was using had a air pocket. So it was trapping heat. :/
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U using a P4? That\'s high for a P4 isn\'t it? My T-bird runs 48c at idle.
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i\'m using a Athlon XP not p4.
I\'m also looking into getting a new Sink/fan, The Thermaltake Volcano 7+ is looking pretty good to me. :)
(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.a1-electronics.co.uk%2FRes_HeatsinksCases%2FHeatsinks2%2FVolcano_7%2Bcomp.jpg&hash=edbced22e2fe28f07f7ba2a8db9ae348c191442a)
Got great reviews at lots of sites. One of the top rated sinks. Costs a fair bit though for a sink.
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But, but §ôµÏG®ïñD you told me not to get a AMD and you got one yourself. Hmmmmm! ;)
My CPU temp right now is 35C.. When I play games it can go upto 45 or so, but I still don’t have any case fans so Im using a Table Fan to get ventilation (with the case open of course) :D
Oh and Im getting my GPU today so I\'ll see if my games "freezing" problem gets better.. :)
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I did, hmmm.. must of been when i had not ever used one.. Thinking a lot like mm, i must of told you in the thought that they fry easily.. Unless your stupid. They don\'t. :)
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yeah, some magical force keeps them from overheating
*yawn*
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Yeah you told me that when you worked with computers alot of customers came back with fried AMD processors.. :)
To be on the safe side I got a heatsink that was good for 1.7GHz for my 1.6GHz CPU.
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yea they still do, usererror mostly.. Morons don\'t install there own sinks properly.. half of them don\'t even use thermal gels.. classic.
mm, there\'s a difference from overheating and getting hot. My processor may get warm/hot. But it\'s never overheated. I\'m using a standard sink that came with my processor.. I BET your not hmm. My cpu sits idle at 41c and 44-45c while playing games.. that\'s 7c more then yours.. not much man. When i get my new sink, It\'ll drop a fair bit more.
There\'s thermal diodes on the new mbs now... My mb doesn\'t have a thermal diode, but does measure the temps.. So if my cpu were to get above 65c. It\'ll shut off my comp. I run my machine 24/7 only to turn it off when i play around with hardware etc... Hasn\'t shutdown on me yet. :)
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AMD\'s nowadays are fine. Now they also have thermal diodes as Souly said. GO AMD, w00t! ;)
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like i said, AMD = second class
and intel outdistances them every day
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For the price.. you\'d hope so.
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think of it this way
you pay 20,000 for a mustang for a reason
you pay 10,000 for a geo for an entirely different one
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OR, You don\'t buy any of them.. get a old car, Do it up to the max, and it hammers over both :)
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define "do it up to the max"
you could end up spending more than the cost of both of them
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Really depends on the car... A skyline or commadore VL can be done up quite nicely and not cost as much as these cars.
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yer missing the point
the moral of this entire thread is, you get what you pay for
if you want speed, go intel
if you a cheaper, alternative solution, go AMD
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lol.. Ok, now i know Intel are ahead in speed. BUT between a 1.8p4 and a 1.8xp i\'d choose the XP.. That\'s my point. :)
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not me, id rather go intel route with rambus (which i do)
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i\'m on DDR myself.. Rambus is goin outta style baby.
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but i see you did not deny it is faster (because it is)
RDRAM > DDR
ive been on rambus for a long time now, and as long as asus supports it, so will I
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Originally posted by mm
think of it this way
you pay 20,000 for a mustang for a reason
you pay 10,000 for a geo for an entirely different one
You like Mustangs and Intel? BOOO!
[SIZE=8]BOOOOOO[/size]
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that was some great rambling... :rolleyes:
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RDRAM is faster.. 800mhz if i remember right. but i\'ve heard they have problems with the chips. There not stable or something, donno.
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actually, the new rdram is 1066mhz (2x 533 system bus)
nope, RIMMS are stable like a rock
only downfall, is the price
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another problem is u need them in matching pairs :( I\'ve heard there\'s new ones that work in single sets, but are hard to get.
Rdram is slowly being removed from motherboards.
Seems some websites sell kingston Rdram Rimms for around $345.75 usd per one, That\'s 256MB 1066MHz by the way.. I payed 145USD for Kingston PC2100 DDR 512meg. I don\'t know how well RDram performs, but you would hope u could tell the difference between the two.
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the difference is outstanding
yes, intel said they will drop RDRAM (only cause its proprietary)
345$ no way.
try a little over 100$ for a 256m stick of 1066 rdram
512 2100 DDR goes 99$ today
speeds:
rdram - 1066mhz
2100 ddr - 266mhz
you tell me what to think
:)
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You want a quality stick, kingston = quality = expensive.. Sure i could have gotten a cheap arse stick of DDR. But life time warrenty is a good thing.
I doubt games get much benifit from RDram, bottle necks as such. The cores on the gpu cards only allow so much bandwidth. But atleast your apps will be faster... Ohh and DDR is up too 400mhz, Kingston are up too 333mhz. My mb supports 333mhz, but i\'m using 266mhz. Also the FSB on processors will be making bottle necks for any mem above there FSB size. Although they have probably tweaked and played around with different ways of getting maximum bandwidths.
So it\'s like buying a 16x agp card and using it on a 4x agp slot.. This is just a example. There\'s no 16xagp cards yet.
512MB 266MHz DDR PC2100 Reg ECC DIMM CL2.5 $179.00 Straight from the kingston site.
256MB RIMM4200 1066MHz 32-bit ECC RIMM $208.00 Straight from the kingston site...
hmmm, but if i did notice a difference in gaming, and i was gonna get a P4. I\'d probably go for Rdram.
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life time warranty?
yer only gonna use that ram for what, two years max?
kingston is high priced generic ram
mushkin or crucial is what you want
no bottleneck for me, 448mhz system bus= 2ghz P4
regardless, rdram will reach speeds ddr can only dream of
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For now maybe, But RDram is dieing. MB makers aren\'t using it like they used too.. This ram will be used for a long time. It\'ll be passed down like all my other mem. My gf is using my old PC133 512 Meg ram stick and a PC100 128meg stick. I\'ve had it for 512 for around 2 years, and the 128 for around 3 years now.
Having a lifetime warranty gives me leeway in over clocking. if I fry it, they won\'t know how, I’ll bs and get it replaced. Have with the stuff other people over clocked. I won\'t be over clocking it though. Want to get a mem cooler first. Sure I’ll be changing mem here and there, but not for a while.
I\'m not saying RDram isn\'t better. Faster is always better. but as i see it, it\'s dieing... Soon you\'ll be restricted to certain mbs.
ps. I thought u had a 1.8p4 over clocked.
The FSB on my processor is 266. So I’m not wasting any money. :)
I\'ll upgrade to a 2.6ghz. ATM my mb supports up to 2.6+ xp processor then I\'ll probably go intel if they get cheaper, or if AMD make processors to intels standards. I mean same speeds etc, or I’ll get what ever I can with what I’ve got.
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i do have a 1.8 OC\'d
112x4x18= 2ghz
add in my GF4 ti 4600 and i got teh sweetness!
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I was thinking of getting the Radeon 9700 pro. But an 800-dollar price tag kind of put me off. I was hoping it\'ll be only between 100 and 200 dollers more then the Ti4600. Nvidia over price there cards but I\'ll get the Ti4600 and be happy with that. Till the NV30 chipset comes out, then I’ll sell the ti4600 and get a card based on that. :)
PS, What\'s the 4 for?
The 112 MHz x 18 multiplyer = abit over 2 gig.
Cause i\'m on 133 mhz x 11.5 etc
Don\'t worry, just figured it out. Your FSB 4x100 etc.
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I go for DDR 400 in my new PC. I just wait for more solid SiS648 boards to come. The Gigabyte one looks best so far - review: ( http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.html?i=1708 ) but I want to see how the Soyo one will be.
The difference between DDR and Rambus is not so big anymore.
Pentium 4 2,2 with Ti 4600:
Quake 3: AsusP4T533-C 850E (PC1066) : 289,9 fps
Gigabyte SiS648 (DDR 400) : 284,5 fps
UT 2003: Asus: 163,48
Gigabyte: 158,35
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Like i said. There\'s bottlenecks when using memory that\'s above a FSB or GPU core, It\'s just not worth it imo. It\'s really about a good cpu and good gpu. I will try to keep up with the FSBs on the cpus etc, my fsb is 266 my mem is 266, if i had a p4 etc. I\'d get what i needed, probably the 800mhz chips, but not anything above it. but when it comes to performance, nothing beats a good cpu and gpu combo. :) But you do need good memory. :)
Right now i\'d get 333mhz or 400mhz DDR, anything above it is just a number. (for xp processors that is)
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Crucial has been good to me. Plus they will drop the shipping charges every once in a while when you order from their website.
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My computer has about 7 built-in fans. Sounds like a hurricane.