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Title: Ever want to try linux..
Post by: Tyrant on September 20, 2002, 01:51:19 AM
but thought that it would be too hard well may be this (http://www.lycoris.com/) might change yer mind.
Title: Ever want to try linux..
Post by: mm on September 20, 2002, 02:29:44 AM
linus is easy

oh, and its free!
Title: Ever want to try linux..
Post by: Titan on September 20, 2002, 12:36:38 PM
I\'m definitly going to download it when I get cable. Can I get hardware partitioning software (download it) off the internet?
Title: Ever want to try linux..
Post by: mm on September 20, 2002, 12:44:01 PM
hardware partitioning?

not sure what you mean there
Title: Ever want to try linux..
Post by: Titan on September 20, 2002, 01:11:52 PM
Split the hard drive so I can put Linux on and keep Win98 too.
Title: Ever want to try linux..
Post by: Kurt Angle on September 20, 2002, 01:12:20 PM
I think he wants to download some software off the net that will enable him to partition his hardisc.
Title: Ever want to try linux..
Post by: mm on September 20, 2002, 01:58:36 PM
linux can do this for you
drive partitioning
Title: Ever want to try linux..
Post by: EmperorRob on September 20, 2002, 09:15:53 PM
win98 is suk.  If you\'re going to dual-boot something dual boot it with 2k/XP.
Title: Ever want to try linux..
Post by: Titan on September 21, 2002, 07:09:38 AM
I know Win98 sucks but I heard 2K and XP aren\'t much better (well, XP a bit better).
Title: Ever want to try linux..
Post by: Tyrant on September 21, 2002, 07:48:59 AM
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Originally posted by Titan
I know Win98 sucks but I heard 2K and XP aren\'t much better (well, XP a bit better).

HAHAHAHA, win2K= best M$ OS.
Title: Ever want to try linux..
Post by: Titan on September 21, 2002, 10:30:09 AM
Ok, whatever. I don\'t like MS to begin with. Maybe I\'ll upgrade but not sure. Want to try Linux first and see how I like it. So Linux partitions the hard drive automatically so I can have 98 and Linux?
Title: Ever want to try linux..
Post by: NVIDIA256 on September 21, 2002, 11:09:12 AM
it\'s called partition magic 7.2 the best program out there,

[oh and sorry i was gonna give yuo the program for free but unfortunatly I\'m not allowed to give that information on this board, so good luck!
Title: Ever want to try linux..
Post by: EmperorRob on September 21, 2002, 12:31:04 PM
Some versions of Mandrake used to come with a limited version of Partition Magic.  The best thing to do is get a copy of this yourself; it\'s great to have anyway.

Windows will cause probs if it\'s not on 1st partition of disk.  Win2k is [size=8]>[/size] Win98 (which is steamy DOS crap).

Install Linux on 2ndary partition and its boot loader there as well.  You can install LILO or GRUB on your MBR but it can be a headache.  Check out this dual-boot howto:

http://www.anandtech.com/guides/viewfaq.html?i=58
Title: Ever want to try linux..
Post by: Titan on September 23, 2002, 02:18:27 PM
I don\'t really understand it but when I buy the software, I\'m sure it will have easy instructions.
Title: Ever want to try linux..
Post by: Mr. Kennedy on September 23, 2002, 06:12:11 PM
Do you have to reconfigure settings if you just wanna see what Liinux is all about.
Title: Ever want to try linux..
Post by: nataku on September 23, 2002, 06:30:06 PM
I\'d like to have Linux, but too many different family members use my PC... they wouldn\'t know what it\'s about.  They still think you gotta double click everything on the internet and the little quick launch icons.  No matter how many times I tell em, they still do it.

And Linux doesn\'t have enough game support. :(
Title: Ever want to try linux..
Post by: EmperorRob on September 23, 2002, 09:42:45 PM
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Originally posted by Titan
I don\'t really understand it but when I buy the software, I\'m sure it will have easy instructions.
I doubt you\'ll get anything as user-friendly as that FAQ on Anandtech.
Title: Ever want to try linux..
Post by: seawolf on October 26, 2002, 09:11:30 AM
umm like some1 b4 has said...it\'s not the problem of linux supporting games, it\'s game developers to support linux...it\'s pretty funny, most of them make the software in some sort of unix/minix/linux but then they go about saying it\'s compatible for PC....wtf, winblows isn\'t PC...lol but atleast some of the better games out now are changing their ways.... UT2003 runs a hella lot better running in linux than winblows...but like u were saying all they know is how to point and double click...well install redhat and setup incons for whatever they want to use and they can do it...in 7.3 use gnome or in 8.0 u sorta have no choice to use the bluecurve thats a cleaned up gnome but basically both are great and pretty easy for even they dumbest winblows user....i\'m a redhat admin so i have to deal with idiots all the time, so redhat works out the best since they can\'t kill it LOL lata
Title: Ever want to try linux..
Post by: EmperorRob on October 26, 2002, 11:57:24 AM
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Originally posted by The Hurricane
Do you have to reconfigure settings if you just wanna see what Liinux is all about.
Actually yeah you can.  The new version of Suse (8.1) has a live-eval version available for download.  All it is is an iso that contains a compressed kernel and some apps for you to use.  I\'m not sure what all is included but you should be able to get it here:

http://ftp://ftp-linux.cc.gatech.edu/pub/linux/distributions/suse/suse/i386/live-eval-8.1

It\'s a big d/l tho, 645 MB.  Titan, the dual-boot is easy.  It\'s just 1 command and 1 file to edit in Win2k/XP.
Title: Ever want to try linux..
Post by: Titan on October 27, 2002, 11:13:21 AM
Does Linux auto partition the hard drive so I can run Linux and Win98?
Title: Ever want to try linux..
Post by: EmperorRob on October 27, 2002, 12:46:20 PM
Most distros will make partition suggestions but you may not agree with the way they set them up.
Title: Ever want to try linux..
Post by: neo77777 on November 02, 2002, 02:15:29 PM
Hi everyone, I am new to the board and a die hard linux user (no windows here at all), I am glad to see the linux thread pop up here and there, as for dual booting with Win* it has never been easier since LILO and GRUB (linux boot loaders) are pretty mature to get you going, the comment about Having lots of family members accessing one computer the dual boot is finest solution, also user separation privileges provided by *NIX is superb, so unless you are root (super user) you are not likely to cause headaches to your fallow users on hte same system. As for partitioning, most distributions out there provide one or another way to help you out to partition the drive and prepare it for linux, RedHat comes with druid, Mandrake has its own software which I might say excellent in regards to partitioning and formatting your drives, what you need is a basic understanding what the heck linux is and if it is worth of trying for you. If you decide to give it a go and you\'ve never had any *NIX experience prior this moment I recommend Mandrake distribution, it is targeted for novice linux users, at the same time it doesn\'t limit advance users to setup their own Weebservers and  what\'s not. So take a look at http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/
And if there are any problems you have setting it up, installing software, finding software to do the right job I encourage you to join the best team of linux users as myself at http://www.linuxquestions.org
Well I am not pushing you to join but at least it is worth of browsing, and I am not a linuxquestion accossiate tryong to lurk new members (we already have more than 18,000 registered members). Enjoy.
Title: Ever want to try linux..
Post by: seawolf on November 02, 2002, 03:33:16 PM
ummm redhat is a good choice too...i like 7.3 but 8.0 is good....8.0 to me is a whole hell of a lot better than drake.... and 7.3 i\'ve still got on all my systems but 1 laptop thats testing rh8.0 might wanna give redhat 7.3/8.0 a look b4 trying drake...lata
Title: Ever want to try linux..
Post by: Titan on November 02, 2002, 05:33:20 PM
Does linux auto partition the hard drive? I want Linux and Win98SE on my computer.
Title: Ever want to try linux..
Post by: neo77777 on November 02, 2002, 08:19:28 PM
Well, I wouldn\'t recommend autopartitioning even though some distros allow yu to do so, you might ask why? Well, by partitioning drive yourself you are in control of the HDD space you got, let\'s say you choose basic workstation install and you selected autopartition you\'ll get /boot partition something around 50K or less, / about 10% of the space, roughly 30% for /usr (if you choose to have /usr, otherwise it wil be merged into / giving you about 30% of / overall), and the rest would go to /home, let\'s say the partion for linux is less than 3G you\'ll fill the /usr entirely leaving /tmp with something insignificant and if you do a lot of downloads and you are on broadband you\'d want to get .ISO\'s to try another distors, you\'d want to get mp3\'s and stuff, well it might not work \'cause all the downloads are stored in /tmp while in the progress of downloading, it is just an example. So just remember that everything you install on your system will end up in /usr, /usr/local, /opt by default (you can override the defaults - that\'s one of the ideas to have Open Source Operating System on your computer) so at least /usr should be big enough to hold all the software you install during OS installation as well there should be enough room if you plan on installing other software, all the logs are endup in /var (so if you are running something like Webserver, ftp server - expect the logs to grow rapidly), now /boot - 50K is enough it will hold the information about your boot sectors (where to find them, etc), your kernel image (you can actually control where to put it, by default it finds home under /boot), / should be as minimal as possible if it is a partition on its own on your system, and /home is where all your personal files and setting will be stored.
Hope this helps.
Title: Ever want to try linux..
Post by: Titan on November 03, 2002, 07:18:14 AM
Its actually a bit too technical for me. So you suggest to get partitioning software?
Title: Ever want to try linux..
Post by: neo77777 on November 03, 2002, 08:26:43 AM
I\'d suggest first defragment your HDD with "built-in" tools available on windows, the reason behind it is to "separate" used and free space, next step is optional - create a partition using Windows fdisk utility from a free space you got. Next step - boot from linux install CD (whichever you decide suites you better - RedHat, Mandrake, etc.), proceed with install, you\'ll be given an opportunity to partition your drive at some point, choose the free space (partition you\'ve  created with fdisk) and create linux partitions, format them, and you are free to go. Be very carefull not to toss your windows partition(s)