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Non Gaming Discussions => Off-Topic => Topic started by: Ryu on September 22, 2002, 03:14:27 PM
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Alright, the Admin gloves are off and I\'m making this thread as a general observation of the community at large. Just so all of you know, you can all freely respond to this thread same as any other and I will not edit or delete any posts in this thread so long as they stay on topic.
I\'ve been here a long time and in that time, I have enjoyed maybe 3/4 of that time spent here. I\'ve made a couple of friends, helped people with relationships, honed my writing skills, and have actually increased my status from newbie, to member, to moderator, and now to administrator. It\'s been a pretty wild ride with many different threads, hundreds of different members, and thousands of different posts.
Lately though, things have been different and I can\'t say the direction that the forums have taken are something I am particularly proud of.
The diversity of the forum is just... nill. In fact, in my personal opinion, I think the intelligence level has actually decreased greatly in the past few months. The decrease in quality posting was a key indication starting back in late May, but I didn\'t say anything about it. I figured it was purely limited to those in debating\\discussion, but I realize now, especially after we basically nuetered those forums altogether, and I admit to being directly responsible for that, the poor quality of posting was not limited to there.
In fact, off-topic has quite possibly become the worst and largest dung filled cess pool in forum history. I mean, we have threads about getting drunk, threads about how women are total slime, and then threads about what women members would like to bang, but even worse, there are multiple threads about EACH of those topics marking just a small portion of the crap that has graced this place. Where\'s the quality posting? Where\'s the great threads? Where\'s the heart?
I don\'t mean to just make this my bitch and brag session, but lets be honest with eachother and see just how many quality posters have left and how many we have truly gained. Take a look at the favorite members threads and take a look at how frequently those most coveted members post nowdays. It kind of makes you wonder what happened, but in all honesty, they left and moved on for the exact same reasons I am commenting on here and although I think they do miss out on certain threads from time to time, they don\'t really miss much. The community here itself has dwindeled in quality and the diversity of members has just been limited for a long time and the reasons as to why are more apparent to me moreso now than ever.
I guess if we wanted to make this a discussion, I should ask a question or for comments in general, but lets get this rolling here and I\'ll interject something later after this thread has taken its form, hopefully with replies that are thought out rather than "it\'s too long, give me the gist!" I guess you can add that to the list of things that have just ruined the quality in posting here as well.
For those of you who agree with me and actually read all of that, honestly, what is keeping you here?
Those who disagree, state why you like this forum and what keeps you coming back every day.
And, if either group is willing to go the extra mile, why not list what it would take to make this forum a better place for all members.
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I am actually getting sick of all the ghey stuff.
Everyone lately has been in the closet. I know its funny, but that ms paint topic really opened my eyes to the imaturity of many members.
Grow up.
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There aren\'t many great off-topic things to talk about. People just wanted to have fun, so this is what happened.
I\'m tired of the jokes about being ghey, too. The whole thing just isn\'t funny anymore after the 1000th time.
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There\'s an entire world of information out there and you\'re telling me the most fun thing to talk about is raping other members? I find that hard to believe.
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I think people are just having fun, maybe there should be a new rule were we have to wear uniform and can\'t post anything but politics.
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Give us an example of what we should talk about then. I know most of us try to post our best, but there just isn\'t anything important to say at the moment.
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Ugh, your telling me there isn\'t anything important going on in the world right now?
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I think people are just having fun, maybe there should be a new rule were we have to wear uniform and can\'t post anything but politics.
Since when did improving the quality of posting and the quality of topics have anything to do with stifiling ones level of enjoyment? I always figured that improving one aspect directly affects the other. I just don\'t see the fun in the vast majority of recent posts.
We\'ve tried fixing this forum before with a number of different issues. First there was the huge amount of spam, then the spaminators, then the goal to reach 100,000 posts and then... well, the list goes on and on with the problems in quality and each issue directly affects the problems at hand and increases them and each fix to the issues has either been massively ignored, or massively rejected and met with 10-20 different threads about how people will leave if a change isn\'t made, even with the illustrious post counts that so many of you care so greatly about. Since when did a forum of discussion turn into a forum of posts strictly prohibited to talking about lude jokes, half naked women, and anal raping other members? Are you saying that those topics are the only "fun" ones? Or is that just the limits that people have reached on this board?
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Originally posted by TheGR81
Ugh, your telling me there isn\'t anything important going on in the world right now?
Oh, I guess we should talk about terrorism and Bush talking to the UN and whatnot? I see a lot of that on TV already, we don\'t need more of that in the forums.
I don\'t support spam, but I think most of us just don\'t feel the need to talk about something enlightening all the time. If you all think what we talk about are just plain garbage, then why won\'t you do something about it? Start making threads that are much more than theomen raping ppl. People might follow.
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I like to kid around as much as the next person but the forums have definently taken a dive since I first came here. To much dicking around and not enough serious talk. I don\'t know how this post will be taken because I don\'t know what level I\'m held on in peoples minds but the stuff like raping does get old.
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At one point, a number of members tried posting different topics to try and breathe new life into the boards so I am obviously NOT the first to think that the stuff being posted is garbage, but even when people tried to get a flood of new creative topics in here, they were met with replies like "isn\'t this enough threads from you for the week?" and "well, nice to see you can spam too" etc etc. Just like I said though, each fix is met with just as much BS as before.
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Originally posted by Ryu
Since when did improving the quality of posting and the quality of topics have anything to do with stifiling ones level of enjoyment? I always figured that improving one aspect directly affects the other. I just don\'t see the fun in the vast majority of recent posts.
We\'ve tried fixing this forum before with a number of different issues. First there was the huge amount of spam, then the spaminators, then the goal to reach 100,000 posts and then... well, the list goes on and on with the problems in quality and each issue directly affects the problems at hand and increases them and each fix to the issues has either been massively ignored, or massively rejected and met with 10-20 different threads about how people will leave if a change isn\'t made, even with the illustrious post counts that so many of you care so greatly about. Since when did a forum of discussion turn into a forum of posts strictly prohibited to talking about lude jokes, half naked women, and anal raping other members? Are you saying that those topics are the only "fun" ones? Or is that just the limits that people have reached on this board?
Nothing wrong with lude jokes and half or fully naked women.
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Nothing wrong with lude jokes and half or fully naked women.
You\'re right, there probably isn\'t, but those two things constantly posted over and over again? Enough is enough.
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Maybe, but I\'m all about fun, TheOmen cracks me up with his constant raping, I come to this forum to get away from stress, I\'m all for having a laugh, I\'m not really bothered about the state of this forum, I\'m still enjoying posting here and will continue to ( coming up to a year soon, go me )
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Originally posted by ##RaCeR##
I am actually getting sick of all the ghey stuff.
Everyone lately has been in the closet. I know its funny, but that ms paint topic really opened my eyes to the imaturity of many members.
Grow up.
What was your advice to bossieman in that other thread???
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I personally think interesting threads come from what\'s going on in the world. That\'s why I usually post things I find interesting in my readings. But I got ragged on so I stopped posting any threads. Well except for mindless ones like an elephant shitting in a sack.
The spam doesn\'t bother me. I usually don\'t end up reading the stupid threads anyway.
I don\'t find too many threads that make me say, "oh gosh I need to check the boards and see what people have said."
What got me interested in this board was seeing how many intelligent people were on here after 9/11.. You could actually have a sophisticated thread.
Now you\'d just have people raping and throwing apples at Saddam Hussein if we made a topic about the potential war in Iraq or the weapons inspections.
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Originally posted by Skyrider666
What was your advice to bossieman in that other thread???
That was a respose to the way I feel. Everything here is ghey, anal raping, having sex with donkeys, having sex with old people. Its disgusting.
You all need to grow up. I think Theoman is the sickest member here EVER. I was talking to him and his little \'buddy\' via MSN accouple of times, and all they want to talk about is gay anal raping sex with my ass.
Grow up you sick f&cks. If you have to get off by talking like that then go by porno.
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I come to this forum because it\'s fun. People in it makes me laugh. Yeah, OT has a lot of repeated posts, and the whole ghey stuff has gotten out of hand recently, but other than that it\'s not so bad. I don\'t think there is anything wrong with talking about women, naked or otherwise. I think it\'s pretty obvious that this is a male dominated forum.
Besides the repeated posts about members raping other members and stuff like that, there are a ton of quality posts in OT, IMO. People post news about things that happen or have happened in the world. Granted, the news posted is usually about weird or strange events/people, but it\'s posted to make you laugh, to show you the kind of people that live in this world. And there are a lot of topics about personal things where you can get to know the other members better.
The only thing I kind of dislike about these forums is that if a topic gets more than 2 pages long it usually goes way off the original subject.
/me shrugs
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Well, first of all, I would like to point out before my post, that I haven\'t been around here that long. I have, however, been to several different message boards and related communities before this one, and this exact same thing happens at every one of them. A few years down the line, you always get people longing for the good old days, when everything was better, and wondering just what went so very wrong. Basically, these are my thoughts:
why things changed: When the boards first formed, and a lot of the older members of the community discovered them, things were, no doubt, very different. I\'ll make a bunch of assumptions here, so correct me if I\'m wrong. When the boards first started, they were much more centered around the gaming aspect of the boards. That, afterall, would be what drew people to the boards in the first place. As time passed though, and people began to know eachother better and feel more comfortable here, the off topic section took over as the main part of the forums. More and more people started to come to it. With new people coming, new ideas and styles of posting were introduced. It seems that new members often post more than the older ones, wanting to raise their post count and become more familiar to the others, in order to shed the dreaded "newbie" tag. Because of this, at different times, these new people will be the most visible ones on the boards. That means that they will have the most influence on other new people who may just be arriving. Thus, the posting style will tend to evolve, usually towards more spam and brainless topics, over time. Standards will slowly decrease, and eventually the older members will look up, and realise that the forums they once loved to post in have changed greatly, and in a way that they don\'t like.
How to fix it: The most important thing is for the older members, who are disgusted by the new ways of members, to not back off. If you don\'t like the topics that are there, post topics that go in directions you like. Sure, if one member does this, it\'s not going to work well, but if a group of members, especially if it is some of the more well respected ones, make a collective effort to post interesting topics about relevant issues, then it really can make a difference. Hopefully, others will enjoy these topics, and follow suit. If some members, probably newer ones still looking to make a name for themselves, start to question your actions, just ignore them. Maybe even explain your actions to them. Perhaps it will even lead to them following along for the greater good of the forums.
The problem, as I see it, isn\'t so much that there are a bunch of tasteless topics, but that intelligent topics aren\'t as equally present on the boards. Maybe you don\'t even have to do much. Maybe post a topic a week, and if it is truely interesting, it might last a while, and get a bunch of interesting replies and some intelligent thoughts. Maybe get a few people to do this, and you can have, at least an attempt at a thread like this a day, when you combine the efforts of 7 or so different people.
If I am missing a major problem you are trying to address, please tell me. I would like to get a good idea of just what would need to change for the forums to be as good as your say they once were.
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I as well have noticed a decline in the last 1-1/2 years I have been lurking/posting.
I myself post some silly things for fun so members that may be having a bad day get at least a smile from something that day. I also try to post topics to get people into a rational discussion, but usually it just turns into insults and just utter immaturity. I at times know I have fell victim to that level as well, so we all have out faults.
What keeps me around? Honestly, I was just gonna leave after my banning b/c of certain things. I only had a dummy account to view the news on news games and such and to ask a question if needed. I had noticed myself being held to certain rules and standards,but the same type of policing was not held to others(that still continues to this day), but in all truthfulness, I chose to stay reagrdless of the ones that wanted to act like an ass to me. There are many people here that I look forward to respectful discussion and others that can almost always make me laugh. We all know how importantly laughter is in life.
NOT the first to think that the stuff being posted is garbage, but even when people tried to get a flood of new creative topics in here, they were met with replies like "isn\'t this enough threads from you for the week?" and "well, nice to see you can spam too"-ryu
Exactly!! That has been said to me far too many times to count.
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On another note, this forum is actually many times more mature, intelligent, and interesting than the other one I go to. From my point of view, the place may not be as good as it once was, but it could get a lot worse.
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Atleast its better than gayfags
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I\'m one of the few older members that still posts and I still don\'t post in off-topic to often. I see quite a few things that are simply annoying and here is my list.
- The constant "raping". IT was amusing once. Maybe twice. Three or more times and it\'s frickin\' annoying. Every threaD? It\'s down right disgusting.
- All the women banging threads. I like to look at half (or fully) nude as much as the next hormonal - hetrosexual male, but I can do that somewhere else and I really don\'t see the need for 10 different topics on it.
- All the "you are gay" jokes or varations. Give it a rest, guys.
- The very fact that there isn\'t one thread in Off-Topic that stays true to the thread title. Someone veers off the topic and then everyone else follows, which sometimes isn\'t bad, but ninety percent of the time it is something "gay" or about "raping" someone.
You\'ll notice I didn\'t mention spam. Why? Because if you guys would quit with the above mentioned garbage, we wouldn\'t have that spam , now would we?
/me thinks he should be an Off-Topic Mod...
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I just want one mod power..the ability to delete. I\'ll get rid of most if not all of the useless *xxx rapes xxx* or just replies with *lol*..etc..etc..
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Sure the post quality has suffered a little, there are a select few that never really add anything to the subject at hand other than *attacks this member or sexually assaults the other member and sadly those members seem to well....never sleep.
However you called OT the cess pool of the net, but I spend most of my time in OT. I mostly read the Main Forum to keep up with the current games. And I rarely venture into what was the other console forum, and when I do it\'s only to check out what\'s hot on the other consoles. I used to frequent console debating a LONG time back but I got bored with it. Always felt there were too many people that thought they knew everything but in reality knew nothing at all...and it showed in their posts. But OT, has a lot going for it. Conversations about religion and stuff usually are very interesting and you learn a lot about the other members. I personally love threads like show your desktop show your room or something like that. And threads like photoshop secrets are great because people are sharing knowledge and really gaining alot from one another.
also OT is the place I usually read and post the most in mainly because I can get away with my sick sick sense of humor without people getting too upset, and those who do....well I don\'t really give a rats ass about those :p
The spam and st!t doesn\'t bother me, but I\'d like to see the threads that strayed away from the subject and turned into mindless and very VERY annoying action threads closed. That\'s what I feel is needed to bring what you call more Civil posts to the fora. It might take more manpower add another OT mod or something.
I visit a lot of forums, and this forum has the best community of them all because it\'s a real community not just a formal conversation like so many forums.
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Everything that nO-One just said speaks the truth.
Amen , brother!
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You guys should post some of this in the suggestions forum.
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heres my deal...
as long as there is an off-tpoic here, i will moderate it, no matter how shitty or great it is. and as long as there are forums here, i will post in them, no matter how shitty or great they are.
thats about it.
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I delete bulshit posts all the time, but then you get bullshit posts saying "Why did you delete my post?"
Why? I\'ll tell you why. It had nothing to do with the freaking topic.
Sometimes it is real tough to keep up with the posting cause vapor and omen apparently don\'t have to abide by the 60 second rule like the others do.
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i feel as though the forums change because the majority of the members want it to change a certain way. I mean if people hated posted stupid shit, do you think they would do so? If we wanted the OT to be limited to only posting intelligently well thought-out ideas, it would be full of topics like that.
But the majority of members seem to prefer to let loose, have some fun, and not be afraid of being stupid. It seems to me, that if the members want the OT to become something different, than what it is now, they will do it themselves.
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I have no problem with people letting loose Omen. My problem is when people go off topic. If someone creates a potentially descent thread, it so often gets diverted to Racer and his gheyness.
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I also don\'t think that the problem is that people let loose like that, but that it is done in practically every topic. It would be better if there were some topics that could stay serious, to contrast with the "fun" ones.
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I see what you mean Vid, and I agree. Many of my threads have gotten maybe 2 replies before the topic is changed. God damn I hate all of you!
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Originally posted by theomen
I see what you mean Vid, and I agree. Many of my threads have gotten maybe 2 replies before the topic is changed. God damn I hate all of you!
In all seriousness, if you hate it so much, lead by example. Dont do it in other threads man. I love alot of what you bring to the boards and unfortunately, I have no problem with calling ppl out :) You my friend do alot of that type of thing yourself.
Sometimes it is real tough to keep up with the posting cause vapor and omen apparently don\'t have to abide by the 60 second rule like the others do.-video
All kidding aside, I\'ll be MORE than happy to only have the mod ability to help delete garbage.
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Personally, I could really care less about off-topic. That\'s not the reason I come here. I come here primarilly to talk about games. Now, I haven\'t posted much in main forum cause, well, I don\'t have a PS2 yet.. and my views of Sony and the PS2 are slightly shifting to "unpopular". That\'s fine.. I could whine and bytch about it like some members have.. but instead I just don\'t bother posting there until I have something worthwhile to post or see something worth my attention. Mainly, I stick to Console Discussion.. which is my main reason for being here anymore after being made a mod. Recently tho.. it\'s been going down the shitter REAL fast. The reason.. Closing of Console Debate.
Like I thought, those people who were turning CD into a cesspool have switched over to Console Discussion and turned it into Debate v.2. Granted, it\'s not as bad as it was over there.. but the standards that place had when it was first created have lowered a great deal. I don\'t like it.. and I try to clean it up a bit.. being nice at first by jus giving warnings and editing posts.. but it never stops. It\'s almost to the point where I don\'t even wanna be a mod over there anymore.. and having it merged with Console Debate\'s threads didn\'t help matters any. (Granted, I know it was an accident.. I\'m not dogging you Ryu, jus commenting on the situation)
As far as that section of the forums goes.. I think the best thing to help it would be to wipe it clean save for a few threads and start over. Enforce the rules strictly.. and if anyone wants to make rude comments to other members, post pics of fat chicks, or add nothing but a snide comment or two.. then open back up Console Debate. Don\'t these people see that this is what made Debate a cesspool in the first place??? That\'s not fixing the problem.. that\'s jus shifting it around a lil and giving it a new name.
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From this moment on, the raping spree is over. All your man cherries are safe...for now!
But in all seriousness, I\'m usually not completly responsible for the swearving of the topic (with the exceptions of the fat chick pix, but that\'s not much different than the ever popular "this thread sux" pix). I usually post something stupid, inside of my actual argument, and then people reply to that. but seeing as though you people can\'t restrain yourselfs, I will refrain ;)
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I understand that as well and I dont blame you for that..I blame them :) It\'s cool that most of us can accept where our faults within this place lie.
Step2..doing something about it :)
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the sad part about these threads, is that everyone comes inhere saying how wrong everyone else is, and how they really want the forums to change. and they do, for about a day. then it\'s back to normal. no offense to Ryu, but this thread will just be a waste of his time, and all of ours, because it will acomplish nothing.
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This is slight off topic , but to SonyFan, I still think we are doing a remarkable job with Console Discussion. We have proven that it is possible to maintain civil debates for the most part and some members we never expected actual good content from, are providing us with just that, great content (Pstwo). No, it\'s not perfect, but it is a very fine step up from Console Debating. The name calling has dropped, the stupid Xbox sales threads are gone and the debates are now civil and well thought out.......for the most part and that is all I ask for at this point.
Off-Topic is another thing altogether. There is no way to split it and there is no clear line on what it should represent. Off-Topic has typically changed as our members have changed. Pre-PS2, Off-Topic was mostly just boring stuff and was rarely used. Then it went through a period where people was posting...Then 9/11 showed we could have rational discusses and now members are cutting loose, which is good, it\'s just got out of hand.
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BSing about BS wont get us anywhere...
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It allows us to express our opinions within a subject for which they are actually on topic instead of being accused of doing the same thing when we are accusing others of..as I have been in the past.
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I read almost everyone\'s post, and they point out good opinions (sp?), I do believe it is getting a little dangerous in here. I mean sure- a good ghey caption contest, talking about getting drunk, and a hot chic thread every once and a while is appropriate. But some of the stuff is not. I also have mixed feelins about my feelings- sometimes we just want to have a good laugh, some of us may be going through hard times and need to smile. I myself am experienceing my parents divorce, and I come here to laugh. A lot of the members here are really nice people (from what I can tell), and sort of make me feel at home. Sometimes people need to just not post (I wont list names) something that really isnt high quality.
Of course, I doubt anyone will read this, Its just my 2 cents.
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In all honesty.. I don\'t think we need anymore mods.. I think we have too many.. Some of them sometimes act power hungry and stuff no offense to anyone. I do see where you say that topics change after about 2 posts. I know Weltall said some things to me about why he basically left and he said like there were too many restrictions. Something like the forums basically turned to garbage.
If there is a topic in OT that you don\'t like, like about woman or being drunk then just don\'t read it.. No one is tellin you to click on it or whatever. People who make the mutiple threads about the same topics usually never knew there was a topic about it previously so why complain about it.
I think that if anymore restrictions are made about what people can post or should post than I think you will see a decline in members.. Maybe that would be for the best in a sense but you might lose some quality ones too.
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Some people around here don\'t understand what makes quality humor. Once you make a joke re-visit once maybe twice and then for God\'s sake leave it alone. Enough w/the masturbation and gay stuff and crap about ###Racer###. Half of the ppl spewing that stuff weren\'t even here when he made that post.
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I guess I come here because it\'s fun and entertaining. That\'s about it..
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I tryed to keep some control... but nope. Not my problem anymore. :)
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Rob, the problem isn\'t the fact that the joke is revisited. The joke was never funny to begin with.
If it weren\'t for SonyFan and Ryu, this place would be almost 100% devoid of any humor.
But these are just my feelings, and they are irrelevant as they are in the minority. Just like yours are Ryu. Sure the forums are a cesspool now, IN YOUR OPINION. 85% of the other people here love the forums, love reading the same jokes day in, day out. Love the rapings, and the lemon smoothies and the lemon rapings. The people who posted here 2 years ago are no longer welcome as they have been taken over by the new breed of posters.
If you don\'t like it, don\'t visit. I know those are my intentions.
waves goodbye to Off-Topic......well, no :)
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Originally posted by LUKE
heres my deal...
as long as there is an off-tpoic here, i will moderate it, no matter how shitty or great it is. and as long as there are forums here, i will post in them, no matter how shitty or great they are.
thats about it.
I\'m with LUKE on this one. This forum is like a little window to the world that I look through everyday. Some days, there are some pretty ghey things going on, but I just think it is the time of year. Kids are going back to school, etc...
I really don\'t have any complaints, it never really occured to me to complain about this FREE method of communication with peeps from all over the planet.
I personally want to thank the powers that be for the time and effort they put forth to allow me to chat with you guys. :D
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Everyone has the right to freedom of speech. Though, there are exeptions. Looking at many of the other forums I go to, this one doesn\'t really stand out. The topics seem to be where they should be most of the time. The Off Topic, or General Descussion, as it is know at most other sites, contains much the same stuff as here.
I faile to see anything wrong with the current system now in place. Maybe I don\'t see the full picture very clearly because i am not a regular member. Or am I the only one who is right in saying maybe we all need a reality check. And the reality is forums can get crazy. It\'s normal. It\'s part of what makes it interesting.
As this thread continues so does the all the others around it. Different topics spark different comments, which can some time lead to argueing, and some time just plain flaming. The bottom line though is that we are here to enjoy ourselves not worry about what the posts are like.
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I have not even noticed all raping and gay stuff, I didnt visit the forums this summer.
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to me the forums r the same way they were nearly a year (or more) ago when i first visited this place. i liked it then and i still like it now (even moreso than before).
oh yeah and is it just me or r the majority of people complaining are old geezers (anything over 20 is old ;)), just face it guys yer growing older and what would have been funny or interesting 3 or 20 (in some peoples case :p) may not be as funny or interesting now.
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I\'m only 18.. :(
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Originally posted by Bobs_Hardware
I\'m only 18.. :(
notice that i said that "The majority" were old which would make u and bozco the minority;).
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and Bobbo, that stick up your ass makes you age faster. ;)
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Yes I agree that these forums are weird at times, but that is what makes them unique. It also makes me want to come back every day to read threads and post.
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well i come here to relieve stress levels and have a laugh, i used to come here for the mf, but not many big games have been coming out, i ask about games etc, and i get peep saying why dont you look for a review, but the point is i want reviews of peep here, not payed of office peep, also i cant get all the awnsers from a review....... i go in mf everyday, but theres just not alot happening in there...
i know you all think i spam a lot, but i hardly ever post twice in the same thread, i know now that someone will get a link to a thread to one where i have more than once, but there is seriously alot more spamming done by other members, ive had peep complain etc, and have tried to put more meat on my posts, so i hope peep have noticed....
but the main reason i come here is to get away from my crap life, so yeah i like hearing jkes et cetc, sometimes all this raping isnt funny, then sometimes i find it hilarious
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:laughing: :laughing: :laughing:
I came back in August cuz I thought the forum was cool again. Seems like its the other way around for most people.
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I think someone already pointed out that it favors the kids.
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Probably b/c the majority are kids :D
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Ahem, you mean young adults :p
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For some reason, I keep reading and posting here, even though the bulk of the threads are useless. Sometimes I wonder why I\'m here, and I think about not bothering anymore. I think I don\'t really have anything in common with most of you. Some of you have no problem posting stories about your personal lives, and I\'m very surprised by that. There\'s no way I would share my personal problems on this forum. I think that\'s because I don\'t trust the opinions of many of you.
But there are a few individuals I do appreciate, and like to hear from, so I keep reading. The weird part is I don\'t think the people responsible for the low quality posting are necessarily just the younger members. There are some young members here who I consider to be among the best posters. I\'ve noticed they tend to be from outside the United States. There are also some older members who appear to be arrested in their development.
Maybe I should take the suggestion listed earlier, and start creating more threads. I think I\'m just hesitant to do that because I don\'t want them to be ruined by spam or be greeted with a thundering silence.
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I love coming here. Its a unique forum and different from any of the others (actually one other) that I visit. This place shouldn\'t be altered or acted on because it\'s weird or different.
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There is no better gaming forum on the net. Period. Most of the "immaturity" only exists among the Off-Topic forums, and that is expected. A solution to attracting more mature members or starting intelligent conversations can be done by creating a "Debate Forum" that branches off OT and can be used to discuss world events or issues. Or you can ban theomen.
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Well said old chap, lets play a bit of cricket, what o.
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I agree. What keeps me here is that I\'m not the kind of person who moves around constantly to the new best thing. I\'m very loyal, maybe too much. I\'ll be with these forums until they die.
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and Bobbo, that stick up your ass makes you age faster.
I thought it was a badger :confused:
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Coredweller, I don\'t know what you think of me (and I guess that\'s irrelevant), but I consider you one of THE best posters here. I agree with your opinions 99 out of a 100 times.
As for the \'immature\' posters here in OT ##RaCeR## - that\'s just when people are having fun and letting loose. You can\'t say a damn thing about people by reading OT threads. It\'s what people do when they\'re being serious, that matters.
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this whole place is turning to crap i know im not the most mature member here but why is there only 5-6 threads worth posting in a week too many kids lowering the maturity level to the point where its impossible to carry on a serious conversation
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I don\'t think there\'s enough posting. If I find a thread useless I move on.
BTW, I\'m probably old enough to be the the father of some of you punks and I still find a lot of the stuff here funny. I guess I might be one of the older guys here with arrested development. :)
Ace
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Originally posted by Samwise
Coredweller, I don\'t know what you think of me (and I guess that\'s irrelevant), but I consider you one of THE best posters here. I agree with your opinions 99 out of a 100 times.
As for the \'immature\' posters here in OT ##RaCeR## - that\'s just when people are having fun and letting loose. You can\'t say a damn thing about people by reading OT threads. It\'s what people do when they\'re being serious, that matters.
Thanks Sammy, I was talking about you when I mentioned high quality posters. I think I will start a thread asking people to name who they consider to be good posters. That way all the lame spammers and ass rapers will be shamed when they don\'t appear in the thread! :laughing: