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Title: Another HDTV question
Post by: Seraphim Pride on September 22, 2002, 05:50:57 PM
Alight the tv I\'m getting only has 420i, 420p and 1080i as the available resolutions. I was wondering if I added a HD converter/reciever whatever you call it would that enable the other modes such as 720 and 960 or do they have to come built into the tv?
Title: Another HDTV question
Post by: videoholic on September 22, 2002, 06:20:06 PM
Here\'s a little taste of what you will enjoy.

Damn HD is sweet.

(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fhome1.gte.net%2Fres026ec%2Fhd%2Fhdcfa2002-9-21.jpg&hash=6ca14d3e7d8641ee168cc68757f52989017b74b2)
Title: Another HDTV question
Post by: Seraphim Pride on September 22, 2002, 06:21:42 PM
Wow that\'s nice indeed but what resolution is that running is that 420p cuz if it is that looks damn good.  Though it\'s probably higher.

*Ok I check the resolution of the pic and that solved on question but what about my original one any help please?:crying:
Title: Another HDTV question
Post by: luckee on September 22, 2002, 06:22:10 PM
Vid..did you get a deal on a convertor box as well..like yer other chit ;) Or do you have a "real" HDTV?
Title: Another HDTV question
Post by: videoholic on September 22, 2002, 06:32:01 PM
My box I bought open box at CC for 400 bucks.  THis was back when they were 550.  They are about 450 now.  It\'s the RCA-DTC100

I think Kirath said he has the same box.  I can\'t remember.

IT will change multiple frequencies into 1080i.  Which was the original question.

So everything that comes out of it becomes hi-rez.  At least I think it\'s 1080i..  I\'m not sure if it\'s 720p or 1080i.

I do know that each network has it\'s own standard.

FOX blows at 480p
NBC and CBS are 1080i
and ABC is 720p

So your box will either change them or your tv will have to be able to do them all.

What kind of box are you buying for the set?
Title: Another HDTV question
Post by: theomen on September 22, 2002, 06:34:11 PM
I think Vid just breaks into peoples houses and "borrows" all his equipment.  I just don\'t buy the whole, "I got this 3000 dollar projector for 5 bucks and a half eaten ham sandwich" story. ;)
Title: Another HDTV question
Post by: luckee on September 22, 2002, 06:38:09 PM
Actually, I havent really looked into yet. I have wayyy to many things I need to do before buying one. Credit is an option, but I have already learned not to consistently use our cards when we want something unless we have at least %75 of the cash to send off the next day.

Anywho..I take it you are more than happy with the RCA? I guess that is where I will start my search when Im ready.
Title: Another HDTV question
Post by: Seraphim Pride on September 22, 2002, 06:41:13 PM
Well that kinda sucks then cuz the tv only does the lowest mode(420p) and the highest(1080i).  As for the box I\'m not sure yet I\'m just concentrating on getting the tv I have almost all the money for it. It\'s probably the bottom or fo the barrel HDTV but anything\'s a hell of a lot better than the piece of shiznit RCA tv I have now.  (https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.samsungusa.com%2Fimages%2Fprod%2Fproduct%2Fb2c_txm3097_full.jpg&hash=75e975604b6beeda9a12c7a1be96ce76676ee36f)
 
Samsung TXM3097WHF
30" Wide DynaFlat™ HDTV Monitor High Definition Monitor with 1080i Input

After i get it then I\'ll look around for a box.  Anyone know of a good place online to get a deal on a box for a reasonable price?
Title: Another HDTV question
Post by: videoholic on September 22, 2002, 06:44:53 PM
go to AVS Forums (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/)  and read all you can.  Very knowledgeable people over there.  They can certainly help..

And if you see a videoholic over there, well, it\'s yours truely.

Here is HD Hardware forum
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=25


Here is HD Programming Forum to keep up on what\'s broadcasting.
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/forumdisplay.php?forumid=34
Title: Another HDTV question
Post by: Seraphim Pride on September 22, 2002, 06:47:20 PM
Um are you sure that\'s the right link?
Title: Another HDTV question
Post by: videoholic on September 22, 2002, 06:47:53 PM
I fixed it.  You\'re quick.
Title: Another HDTV question
Post by: luckee on September 22, 2002, 06:50:32 PM
Here is one I just found that looks fine to me, but I dont know much about HDTV

http://www.soundcity.com/product.php?id1=HOME%20VIDEO&product_id=12328

SP..Here is a link to a pretty reputable place. Ive bought some car and home audio/video from them in the past
http://www.soundcity.com/show3.php?id1=HOME%20VIDEO&id3=86
Title: Another HDTV question
Post by: videoholic on September 22, 2002, 06:52:27 PM
That one only decodes OTA signals. Which is fine.  But mine does Direct TV as well.  That gives Me HBO, SHowtime, and HD.Net all in HD as well.
Title: Another HDTV question
Post by: luckee on September 22, 2002, 06:57:17 PM
Wanna explain exactly what that means and what I should be looking for?
Title: Another HDTV question
Post by: THX on September 22, 2002, 07:00:40 PM
Here\'s another shot comparing, not as dramatic as Vid\'s but you\'ll get a better idea if you\'ve never seen HDTV.

(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmywebpages.comcast.net%2Fdonaldbl%2Fkungfu52%2Fbball_ntsc.jpg&hash=752c5b8d726b0743fe3e956181d819e8e1fc5d76)

(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmywebpages.comcast.net%2Fdonaldbl%2Fkungfu52%2Fbball_hd.jpg&hash=b90e242019d3728cd883f91b98e4767e49035d6f)

Look dead center in the crowd of the HD pic, see the blonde in the white top?  You can\'t see her in the NTSC one.

edit- Luckee Vid\'s saying that HD receiver can only decode over the air (OTA) signals, as in antenna on the top of your roof.  The real deal is satellite such as DirecTV or Dish Network.  Those cost more AND you have to pay a monthly fee but if you\'re an avid movie junkie and you really wanna take advantage of your new HD resolutions don\'t waste your money on a box that can only get just 4 networks that are over the air (Fox, ABS, CBS,  NBC).
Title: Another HDTV question
Post by: Seraphim Pride on September 22, 2002, 07:03:16 PM
Damn now that\'s a difference
Title: Another HDTV question
Post by: luckee on September 22, 2002, 07:09:11 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Bozco
I won\'t be owning an HDTV for years so I ask myself why I even come to this thread.


a cry for attn or post whoring would be my guess\'...

as for staying on subject. Thanx THX..but two more questions. How much more do these boxes cost..on average, and how much is the monthly fee?
Title: Another HDTV question
Post by: Seraphim Pride on September 22, 2002, 07:14:00 PM
Also do you need a satellite dish to receive Direct tv HD with the RCA-DTC100?
Title: Another HDTV question
Post by: videoholic on September 22, 2002, 07:25:14 PM
Monthly fee is standard Direct TV fee.  or Dish Network whichever you choose. Although they will probably both be one within a year or two anyway.

Yes you need an eliptical dish with at least two horns.  You actually need a third horn mounted on the oliptical dish to get future HD programming that may be coming soon to direct tv.


TO get OTA programming there is no fee.  It\'s just antenna.  ANd there is a heck of a lot out there.

They post screen shots all the time on avsforum.  I just saw that one this morning so though you might like.
Title: Another HDTV question
Post by: Mr. Kennedy on September 22, 2002, 07:29:49 PM
welp I\'m happy w/ my 36\'\' WEGA, wouldn\'t you be?
Title: Another HDTV question
Post by: Coredweller on September 22, 2002, 09:20:11 PM
If I were you Seraphim , I wouldn\'t worry about getting a television that doesn\'t support 720p.  As Vid already stated, ABC is really the only one broadcasting in 720p right now.  Depending on where you live and how big your UHF antenna is, there\'s no guarantee you can even receive ABC HD or any other OTA broadcast.  I live dead center in the middle of Los Angeles, and the only OTA broadcasts I can receive reliably are Fox and NBC.  The satellite channels like HDNet and HBO HD are 1080i.

Also my television doesn\'t support 720p, so any broadcast in that format is automatically upconverted to 1080i by my satellite receiver.  I\'ve never received ABC though, so I don\'t know what it looks like.  I can tell you that upconverting from 480 or 720 to 1080 may make the image a little fuzzier.  That depends entirely on the quality of the upconversion routine in the satellite receiver.  You need to read reviews of the available models before buying one.  I have the Toshiba DST-3000.
Title: Another HDTV question
Post by: videoholic on September 23, 2002, 03:31:46 AM
Where I live in Tampa I can get all the networks and they all look very similar except for FOX.  You can certainly tell the difference.  But at least it\'s in widescreen.  It\'s amazing how much they crop in shows dropping the material down to 4x3.  Most shows on prime time now days are either in HD or widescreen.
Title: Another HDTV question
Post by: Seraphim Pride on September 23, 2002, 04:15:31 PM
Alright my final question after seemingly realizing a HDTV isn\'t worth a sh!t without some sort of converter/reciever other than progressive scan.  So out of the box in 420p mode will I at least be able to watch all the Fox prime times shows in 16x9 and 420p HD or would Fox\'s sorry excuse for HD actualy need a converter as well cuz I don\'t feel like blowing all that money on a coverter right now.
Title: Another HDTV question
Post by: Coredweller on September 23, 2002, 04:28:08 PM
I just looked up the Samsung model you\'re considering, and it does NOT have a built-in satellite or OTA digital receiver.  Therefore if you want to receive any kind of digital broadcast, whether it\'s 480P OTA (like Fox) or 1080i High Def (like HBO HD) then you must have an additional digital receiver set top box.  You can\'t get local OTA broadcasts like FOX using only a UHF antenna.  You must have a set top box (STB) to decode the signal.
Title: Another HDTV question
Post by: videoholic on September 23, 2002, 05:12:21 PM
To reiterate cored..

It only comes with an analog receiver.  Meaning you could receiver standard cable and or regular OTA signals.  You ahve to have a Set Top Box (STB) to get all digital signals.