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Playstation/Gaming Discussions => Gaming Discussion => Topic started by: AlteredBeast on September 25, 2002, 06:32:27 PM
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Shenmue III is not in development and won\'t be unless Shenmue II is a success on XBox. Yu Suzuki has the next 5 chapters already written out in book form and has sketches and all that up until chapter 11, but development won\'t happen unless Shenmue II is a success.
...Shit.
Eric Jacob
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If there\'s no Shenmue III, the video-game industry won\'t have to implode.. because I\'ll gather the life energy from every living creature in this galaxy to create a giant ball of light, and then hurl it at.. at.. them. The.. the people.
The people that didn\'t buy Shenmue II!
It won\'t solve anything, but it\'ll be an awesome sight.. wouldn\'t you say?
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shenmue 2 wont have blistering sales being on the console its on, 1st of all. 2nd of all, its a niche title
im not looking forward to a shenmue 3, i can do without the dissapointment of hearing the news
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You\'re just now realizing this, Eric? I never figured we would see the full saga of Shenmue, espically with the low sales that Shenmue 2 will receive and the fact that a lot of people just don\'t \'get it\'. Sega can\'t afford to keep making the Shenmue series if it isn\'t bringing in the money, espically when you consider the high production value\'s that Yu Suzuki and Sega put into the Shenmue games.
With that said - I almost wish Sega would of released Shenmue 2 on the PS2, just for it would of had a bigger install base to sell to and gave us a slightly bigger hope of at least see\'ing Shenmue 3...Alas, most likely we will never see it, never the less the next eleven chapters that Yu has wrote down.
/me would settle for a book detailing what was suppose to happen in the series..
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Sega has a reputation to uphold :
Make expensive money pit games on consoles that aren\'t that popular.[/i]
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:laughing:
Its funny because its true!
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Well they could start by releasing it on the XBox in EUROPEAN TERRITORIES.
Or they could have put it on the ****ing PS2.
They may make great games, but they are a bunch of morons, I swear. :(
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euro already got shenmue 2
how many people are gonna buy it again for some fluffed graphics and nothing else
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again? what about people who never owned a DC? Releasing it in Euro territories could ONLY help their cause.
**** man, that\'s one of the reasons I bought the XBox. Send me your Dreamcast mm!!
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no way, i still play mine
i see them sold at funcoland for 25$
releasing it in japan and europe will result in low sales because
1. its a niche title
2. it was already released there on a superb format (even then it had lackluster sales)
sega will regret this in the long run, as they should have released it on PS2 also
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I\'m well aware how low the sales will be in Europe, but overall, obviously it would be higher than if they did not.
And I\'m just annoyed :(
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Ignorance is one of the cold facts of life. Many masterpieces are buried under mass-produced lightweight titles. While I have never played Shenmue, I would love to try it if I had the Dreamcast.
This situation reminds me of Looking Glass entertainment. One of the greatest game-developers ever ( System Shock 2, Thief I & II etc. ) had to be closed due to burger-games selling better.
Players just won\'t understand...
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indeed
thief 1 and 2 were two of the finest FPS\'s created
BUT, they were niche titles that were overshadowed by thier action intense brothers like quake2 and half life
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Originally posted by Blade
If there\'s no Shenmue III, the video-game industry won\'t have to implode.. because I\'ll gather the life energy from every living creature in this galaxy to create a giant ball of light, and then hurl it at.. at.. them. The.. the people.
The people that didn\'t buy Shenmue II!
It won\'t solve anything, but it\'ll be an awesome sight.. wouldn\'t you say?
Who the hell are u?Goku or something?:D
Sega is stupid.And just imagine how many sales XBOX has in japan and where the game is most popular.Even if every japanese XBOX owner buys it Shenmue2 would still have very VERY LOW sales.And the PS2 rules everywhere in sales.Go figure now.
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There is more to the videogaming industry than the Shenmue series.
In fact I have never even played a Shenmue title and I\'m happy with my current games.The future looks good for gaming in general also IMO.
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actually, if we\'re comparing console gaming to what it was 10 years ago
there is NO contest
console games are shite compared to what they were
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[censored]!!!
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Actually, the US has always been the biggest market for Shenmue. Shenmue sold over 500k in the US and Shenmue II stands as ther highest imported game of all time.
I still stand to think that Shenmue II can sell around 150k on XBox. I pray for a runaway success, but I doubt it will happen. I know I will be pushing the game for anyone who loves adventure games this holiday season.
btw, the end of DBGT rocked, Blade? Those were the good ole days.
Eric Jacob
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Ok lets see.Almost non existing sales in japan,a few in US and nothing in Europe.....hmmm.
Releasing it on PS2 would have been wiser.More sales in japan,more sales in US and if Sega wanted to more sales in Europe.
What are they thinking?Perhaps they dont beleive they can make a good port on PS2 due to programable VRAM and AA?
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AB: Well, I never saw the end of DBZ.. although I do know that Goku uses the Spirit Bomb to beat Buu.
I was referring to the Spirit Bomb in the Frieza saga. Now those were th\' good old days! :)
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Putting it on PS2 would turn it into a jaggy AND blurry mess. A sight not too commonly seen.
Shenmue II sales in Japan = 200k+, European sales were 100K plus. I don\'t see how this goes as \'almost nonexistant\' :rolleyes:
Blade, in DBZ, Goku only uses the Genki Dama with power collected from the planet, in the finale of DBGT, SS Gogeta 4 uses the power of the universe to win.
Eric Jacob
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Non-existant on the X-Box :)
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/me claps hands slowly
Who would of thought it, gaming snobbery is alive and well.
People Games are not Fine Wines or pieces of art work.
they are a Form of Entertainment thats purely down the the Individual whether the like or dislike.
If something is Entertaining then surely it must be Entertainment- **Peter Kay line(from the sunday show) i know but it gets the point
across
I mean as other people has said, you can’t judge and industry purely on the sales and current situation of one gaming series.
Also you can’t blame the public for buying games that in your eyes seam inferior to ones you like.
God some people in here seam to forget the simple economic of Supply and Demand, people will buy what ever game they like and I know in some cases they make big mistakes (points at the Blind rush to get Turok evolution)
true that for every superb game a developer pushes out, there are a hand full of duff ones, but i think you wil find that the profit made from a single "Army men" type game is enough to add to the develop and produce the next MGS or HALO
But the way I like to think of it is that through this confusion ,some games do get their merit (like GTA3 for example which hasn’t even dropped out of the best selling charts since its launch) well done to DMA NOW ROCKSTAR NORTH well done.
Originally posted by AlteredBeast
Blade, in DBZ, Goku only uses the Genki Dama with power collected from the planet, in the finale of DBGT, SS Gogeta 4 uses the power of the universe to win.
Eric Jacob
oh p.s
God .... Eric...why am i not suprised that your a Dragon B*llocks Z fan ! i bet you even have the bed cover sheets you SAD\'O !
footnote
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**Peter kay is a well know and highly funny British Comedian , if you can get a hold of his series called "phenoix Nights" then do because its GREAT !
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Putting it on PS2 would turn it into a jaggy AND blurry mess.
altered, im dissapointed you would stereotype as such
tsk tsk, yer not turning into a graphics tart, are you?
oh, and 150,000 - 200,000 copies sold is shit
how many millions were spent in development?
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Silent Hill3 doesnt look blurry and jaggy.Thats for sure.
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and neither does ANY ps2 title that the devs put proper care in thier product
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AB: In the Frieza saga, Goku gathers the Spirit Bomb (AKA Genki Dama) from Namek and neighboring planets.
Which, of course, isn\'t "this galaxy" as I said in my original post.. but whatever. I like the Frieza saga GD more. :)
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ooseven, I used to watch it BEFORE it came to America. It wasn\'t a fad with me, nor an obsession, but I had watched the movie on the International Channel as a kid, and later, upon seeing it on the internet, started buying Japanese fansubs. DBZ and DBGT are great series.
Blade - I forgot about that.
mm - 150 - 250k isn\'t shit when you have your development and advertising paid for, along with a cash bonus for letting MS publish it. That is to say it is all profit, they don\'t receive the publishing money, but they got a nice money hat from MS.
Eric Jacob
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so it all adds up to no shenmue 3 :(
just look what happened to JGRF
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I swear, in order to be an executive at a videogame company, you have to be mildly retarded or an old senile guy. Preferrably both.
/me shrugs at the morons around the world
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Please, do not bring JSRF - it was a disgrace to the so called \'series\'. Unlike Shenmue 2, which is a frickin\' great game...
:(
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it wasnt the content of the game, or the game itself that amuses me
it was when they stopped producing it entirely
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Samwise: Former NCL president Hiroshi Yamauchi = best video-game company chairman ever, IMO.
Nobody can fully replace him.. they can only try!
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Blade,
I swear, in order to be an executive at a videogame company, you have to be mildly retarded or an old senile guy
Samwise wins ;):p
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Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
Please, do not bring JSRF - it was a disgrace to the so called \'series\'. Unlike Shenmue 2, which is a frickin\' great game...
:(
Why was JSRF such a disapointment
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Bob: I\'m attempting to prove him wrong! :o
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Originally posted by Unicron!
Why was JSRF such a disapointment
I\'m wondering this also...I thought it took everything from the original and made it better, as far as gameplay goes.
Bigger environments, got rid of the horrible hand motions to paint, and made the game all about speed and grinding.
The first one was great, but was soooo slow. Honestly, I tried playing JGR after I had beat JSRF...couldn\'t do it.
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It was dumbed down.
The original was classic. The sequel was dumbed down so anyone could play it and look decent.
Err...
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It got turned from a hardcore gamer\'s game, to a game that I\'ve heard people call a "platformer" it\'s so easy.
Either way, it didn\'t make much money. :) Sad.
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The first game didn\'t make much money either...just met with critical praise.
NOTHING could have saved JSRF.
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hahaha! Dumbed down? Easy? Have you even played JSRF? I think it takes everything that was good from the first, and made it better. The huge enviroments with seamless gameplay did more for me to play the game than anything else.
Try playing the Skyscraper level and tell me the game is easy with a straight face.
It is sad that this game has only sold 80k in the US, it seems more and more of the classics are passed over nowadays.
Eric Jacob
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It got turned from a hardcore gamer\'s game, to a game that I\'ve heard people call a "platformer" it\'s so easy.
It\'s a frickin\' 3D platformer on Inline skates. It does have speed, and some varying objectives, which is why I liked it better than most 3D platformers.
Also why I returned the game a couple of days after purchase. Just not my style.
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Yes, I\'ve played it, I even own it and I don\'t doubt that the SkyScraper level is hard - but come on. THe new "features" simply added nothing , except to make it look better when new people played.
I don\'t know, I guess I\'m partial to the original Jet Set Radio (it is one of my all time favorite games) and just felt completely dissapointed with the follow up game that Sega offered us. It may even come down to personal taste , but either way, it was one of the reasons I bought an Xbox and it remains one of my strongest dissapointments this year - right next to Gun Valkiyre , which I actually like except for the god awful control scheme.
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I enjoy, and fully understand why GV\'s control is as such after playing it for 10 minutes. The game and it\'s controls are brilliant.
Different strokes for different folks, though.
Eric Jacob
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wasnt just the control that killed GV for me
going thru the same levels over and over
*shudder*
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I guess you don\'t happen to enjoy NiGHTS, then?
Eric Jacob
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actually, i didnt
i found it quite boring
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and there you have it.
Eric Jacob
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ehhe, perhaps i seem less of a hardcore gamer now, huh?
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not at all.
Eric Jacob
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/me winks at altered