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Playstation/Gaming Discussions => PS3 Discussion => Topic started by: MAKAVELIUK on October 02, 2002, 11:27:57 AM
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13:22 SCEE president Chris Deering is to make an announcement regarding online functions through PlayStation 2 later this month.
"Chris said he was going to make some form of announcement towards the end of October," said a spokesperson for the company. He went on to confirm that the announcement would be concerned with online plans for PS2.
The content of Deering\'s revelation is not yet known. Rumour circulated recently that Sony was preparing to launch the PS2 hard drive before the end of the year, although comments made by Sony in the last 24 hours appear to have pushed this into the realm of fantasy.
Sony\'s PS2 online plans, the subject of much speculation since the launch of the machine, have long been thought to utilise various services, such as banking and Web browsing, as well as games.
Looks like we\'ll know soon enough. Watch this space for further details.
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Originally posted by MAKAVELIUK
.........have long been thought to utilise various services, such as banking and Web browsing, as well as games.
yeah like thats going to be useful.
i mean your lucky if the bank can do anything USEFUL when you actualy visit them.
never mind standing at the head of the queue shouting at the F%^&kers when they have just charged you for them sending you a letter !
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*prays to god*
I hope its FREE and not like the Australian mag suggested.. :)
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I WONT PAY!!!
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bah, the HD is a gimmick thats not needed
you want something that would help?
how about an ram upgrade, like the saturn had
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We\'re gonna get shafted so bad.
Or not.
*wears iron pants just in case*
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Originally posted by mm
bah, the HD is a gimmick thats not needed
you want something that would help?
how about an ram upgrade, like the saturn had
I think the HDD has a use. Mainly just for MMORPGs, but still.
The game EverQuest Online Adventures won\'t use the HDD. What happens if they discover some major duping bug in the game, or some way to get tons of money quick? What can they do about it?
A MMORPG that can\'t fix bugs or add new content every so often isn\'t worth whatever they charge for it.
FFXI will use the HDD, they\'ve already added tons of stuff and fixed bugs in Japan, and they said they can raise the level cap all the way to 250 (I think it\'s at 50 now). The game would be screwed if they didn\'t have the ability to fix bugs.
And GT4, when it goes online, I remember hearing you should be able to download new cars and tracks.
/me shrugs
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HDD = death of gaming.
Come on people, it\'s a gimmick and plus the only reason most people can give for having one is for developers can patch the game. I personally don\'t want to have to download patches for my console games.
Speaking of gimmicks - did anyone else read on Gamespot where Sony wants to make the PS2 able to record TV shows and what not?
Gimmick!
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I want the HDD to be able to download demos, new tracks, cars, skins, maps ect.. (yes, more like PCs) perhaps even mods (but that would be pretty hard to make for a console game.)
Speaking of gimmicks - did anyone else read on Gamespot where Sony wants to make the PS2 able to record TV shows and what not?
Yes, and I would like if it could. My VHS player sucks donkey nuts.. (when I record from a certain channel the picture gets very, very grainy..) :)
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(1) If you want all that - play PC games.
(2) Buy Ultimate TV or Tivo.
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I wouldn\'t go so far as to say the HD is the death of gaming...I don\'t think Sony should rely on people to buy it though. I won\'t unless it\'s dirt cheap...or unless a game fully utilizes it.
Like Blinx does with Xbox HD...
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There\'s no way the HDD could be the death of gaming. A HDD could be useful, especially for online games, but I don\'t think it needs to be included with the console.
As long as a console has online gaming, there will be developers who want to put MMORPGs on it. You pretty much need HDs for those games if you want them to be halfway sucessful. That\'s why I think Sony\'s way of offering a HDD, as an addon, is the best solution.
It still gives developers the option to make good MMORPGs with changing content, or to use the game for other online games, something like what is planned for GT4. But it doesn\'t leave the option of releasing games that have had little to no testing with hopes to just patch it later.
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Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
HDD = death of gaming.
Come on people, it\'s a gimmick and plus the only reason most people can give for having one is for developers can patch the game. I personally don\'t want to have to download patches for my console games.
Speaking of gimmicks - did anyone else read on Gamespot where Sony wants to make the PS2 able to record TV shows and what not?
Gimmick!
Gimmic ?
like nataku said the vast majority of poeple will using this to play MMORPG\'s aloing with extra sorage space (i could do with it with all my Timesplitters maps)
along with maybe in some cases the storeage of ONline patches for online games.
sorry but i see this as a USEFUL tool if used right and not some over priced Mech controller for the X bouxs:rolleyes:
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Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
(1) If you want all that - play PC games.
(2) Buy Ultimate TV or Tivo.
I have a good PC :)
But I still cant play any of my console games on the PC.
I want "updatable" console games as well..
Don’t you think it would be pretty nice to be able to download new cars and tracks for lets say GT4? Or maybe a new city for GTA4 (online) .. Or perhaps a new mod for Red Faction 2?
I\'d like that, and Im sure Im not the only one.
2. Whatever those things are they are not avalible here yet.
I just want to be able to record "things" (;)) with good quality and I cant do that on my VHS.. So PS2 would be fine.. Lots of stuff avalible in one box.
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the problem with that Fastson, is that developers may start releasing INCOMPLETE games and patching them later. Or games that havent been fully tested. *looks at FFXI*
HDD is of course a gimmick. Hell, the ONLY game that requires it is FFXI.
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I\'d buy a HDD if they release updates/bug fixes/new cars and the like free on their official magazines along with playable demo\'s etc...
If I buy something I only want to buy it once. Paying to download a car in GT4 (just for example) is pointless, I\'ll just make one of my existing ones faster instead.
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Originally posted by Bobs_Hardware
the problem with that Fastson, is that developers may start releasing INCOMPLETE games and patching them later. Or games that havent been fully tested. *looks at FFXI*
HDD is of course a gimmick. Hell, the ONLY game that requires it is FFXI.
Yes, thats one big problem (remembers Delta Force 2.. *rysa*. Probably the most incomplete game ever to be released.. You had to download the stuff they said would be in the game months after release, and stuff they promised never got released.. bleh)
:(
But HDDs do have several major advantages.. The stuff I listed above :)
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I dont know how much the HDD is going to be, but the other day, in Best Buy, I seen an adapter that hooks into the USB port allowing you to use plug and play devices... Mouse, Keyboard, External HARD DRIVE. If you already have a plug and play HDD, you can use it on the PS2. I read it and it said almost all plug and play HDD\'s were supported
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I hope the News is about the HDD.
It would suck if the new online news was that we are going to have to start paying for online play.
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I think it would be cool for demos. That would be nice to not have to pay 7 or 8 bucks for a mag just to get a demo.
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Bah, online gaming in Europe is not going to happen any time soon.
And the HDD could be useful for some things, but if nobody is taking advantage of it on the Xbox where it\'s included with the system, why do you expect it to be any different on the PS2?
PS: Anyone remember what happened to DC online gaming in Europe? Expect something similar.
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Patching might not be too bad of an idea.. expecially in online games. Good god I wish Sega had the ability to patch their online games so that people couldn\'t exploit bugs or use cheat devices as easily as they did.
On the other hand, I do see the downside of sloppy releases and cheap expansions. The way I see it tho.. is all games are going to have some sorts of bugs in them. That\'s pretty much unavoidable as long as publishers are pushing games out the door and onto the shelf to make money before they\'re even truely done. You gonna think.. there\'s 1000x as many gamers looking for bugs to exploit as there are people on the staff looking for bugs to fix. The gamers have no time limit for their efforts.. developers do.
The difference is.. without a HDD you have to live with the bugs. With one, you don\'t.
Other than that.. it\'s a gimmick. MP3 tracklists, TiVO capabilities, Demo movies.. bah.. that stuff isn\'t needed or IMO, wanted. Sure, being able to surf the net on the DC was novel.. couldda been really nice if they had a HDD.. but in the end it\'s still nowhere near on the level of what a PC is capable of, which is pretty much were I\'ll always go to surf the net. The only other two upsides is more space for saved games and it\'s use for games like Blinx.
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Better yet, how can the HD not be a gimmick? Chances of online gaming hitting the UK is looking very slim and when it does - lord knows when that will be. The only game that requires the HD is FFXI . Where does Sony expect to sell all these HD\'s? There\'s simply no compelling reason to have one or nothing pushing it into owner\'s homes.
Second, if you think games like GT4 and Red FRaction 3 would actually let you download stuff for free, you\'re crazy. There would be some charge somewhere. It\'s the console industry. They\'re use to making money off every little thing.
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Wise words from a guy who should know all about companies charging an arm and a leg for minor changes and tweaks to already existing games. ;)
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how much are you guys willing to pay for 40 gbytes HDD if it\'s available?
A) $75
B) $50
C) $40
D) $25
E) free
F) Not getting one
Notice: All are in U. S. dollars.
Me, I am in the category between $25 and not getting one. If it\'s free, I am sure to be one of the first persons to pick one up.
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$25 for a 40GB HDD? I know Sony won\'t sell it that cheap.
It\'ll probably be at least $75. Rumors suggest around $80.
The only way you\'ll get it "free" is if Sony does some sort of package deal with a PS2, the HDD, and a game that uses it, say FFXI. That\'s the only way you\'ll get one free.
Personally, I\'ll get one no matter what the cost. I\'ll be picking up FFXI as soon as it\'s released.
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I just saw an 80 gigabytes HDD for computer selling for $79.99 and it package in a box, not bare unit.
By the time Sony is bring HDD to America, which they claim it might be next Spring, which is about 5 months from now, the price of the HDD for computer will drop some more.
So, $25 might sound too cheap, my guess will be about $40.