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Playstation/Gaming Discussions => Gaming Discussion => Topic started by: pstwo on October 03, 2002, 11:41:59 AM
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WOW!! My must buy game! It\'s going to be fun runing around with spears. :laughing:
The epic game from Intrepid and of course Peter Molyneux(creator Project Ego) is rushing on to the xbox. At the dawn of time the very survival of the human race hangs in the balance. Cowering in caves and running from predators, your species faces the ultimate threat - extinction at the hands of a vicious, rival race of ape-men. Humanity has one hope for survival and that lies on your shoulders. BC doesn’t care about the fact that it’s stuck giant reptiles alongside homosapiens, because BC isn’t about telling the story of early man, it’s about blood, blood and gore, blood and gore and hitting things with a big stick; it’s about survival. Survival is the key to yours and humanity survival for a reliable future or even at all. Peter Molyneux\'s Lionhead Studios is providing professional guidance and assistance on this game, which explains why Molyneux himself was the giving the demonstration. One thing I can say about B.C. is that the visual elements and game design are things that could only be done on the Xbox. You\'ve heard this before about your favorite Microsoft console, but wait\'ll you hear about what\'s going on in B.C. The leader is you, the earlies species of human, can you lead your tribe to a better life or send them to a certain death.
BC is an original 3rd person action/adventure game that hurtles you millions of years into prehistory, to the beginnings of mankind. Here you must lead the struggle for dominance among the first men. You will personally guide your evolving, learning and changing clan on an epic journey of survival. BC allows control of any tribe member, each with different proficiencies; in addition you can ‘tag’ several other tribe members. Tagged tribe members can then be given orders and will intelligently aid you. For instance, while attacking a particularly vicious raptor, tagged members will attempt to surround the beast in order to gain a tactical advantage in the age old art of clubbing beasts to death. The game is all about survival which is very interesting due to the fact we never seen this done before in a game like this manner.
As your tribe learns to cooperate, use tools and communicate, things don’t get any easier. The earth is facing a massive meteorite collision, which only the luckiest and most skilful can possibly survive. Your task is to unite humankind, teach them how to survive and guide them to the ultimate goal - the continuation of the species. The entire evolution of humankind rests on your shoulders. There’s no pressure at all just a few million lives at stake. The better you learn your tribes skills and weakness better your percentage ration of survival going up.
Hunting is the key aspect of surviving. won’t be just the tribe that hunts however, with a fully modelled food chain, the creatures will make sure the land of BC is a violent one. A Tyrannosaurus Rex will happily rip a tribe member in two leaving fleshy entrails hanging in its teeth and a pool of blood in its wake. The food chain will help add a a huge amount of realism to the game atmosphere. Each creature is an individual with its own need and desires and the landscape is more than just eye-candy, trees can be climbed and bushes foraged for example. Each of your tribe members is a unique individual, growing and changing in personality as they face dangers, experience triumphs and failures, and learn new skills. It all takes place in a massive world where every item can be picked up, researched, or used as a weapon; where every creature is not just an enemy but also an individual with its own character, prejudices, and goals. Every berry, fruit or flower can be food to one creature and poison to another. This game is almost deeper then Project Ego, a massive RPG thats beign called the best RPG ever, by the same creator Peter Molyneux.
The places you will visit will vary from hot rabid deserts, too cool icy sub-zero type lands. While only grassy plains have been seen so far the full game promises to cover a wide variety of landscapes, from jungles to beaches each with their own unique species. Every dark landmass is filles with flesh eating species, new discoverys essential to you and your tribes survivial, well in that case all of humanity. Already the game is looking good graphically with fully modelled mountains rolling off into the distance, giant brontosauruses lapping up water from rivers causing ripples to spread outwards, stars moving across the night sky, even ants will be modelled. This game will feature so many details from giant thing like Dinosaurs, all the way down to the little tiny ants.
This game comes with tons of promise. One is of course a epic adventure of humanity while blending action and strategy. Another promise is to feature lots of blood and gore, even when one of your tribes men, or women are getting toar apart by 50 foot T-Rex. This can possibly be the biggest hit of early 2003 for the Xbox. The question is can you teach your fellow tribe men to survive in such harsh conditions, its up to your leadership skills. The war between cavemen and dinosaurs were never proven to be true or false, but you can rewrite history early 2003 only for the Xbox. B.C. has instantly and convincingly joined Project Ego as one of the most interesting and ambitious titles scheduled for the Xbox. XE will have more on this sure to be hit of 2003.
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is the blur intentional?
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Because of the Xbox high polys count in most games, I\'ve notice most Xbox games has this blur effect because of keeping the polys down so the game won\'t take a big frame hit. These screens was just posted at TXB. It\'s from the Lead Designer Ben Cousins of Intrepid Computer Entertainment.
This is what he posted in his post. How cool is that.
Any comments, as usual, are very welcome.
Ben Cousins
Lead Designer
Intrepid Computer Entertainment.
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blur caused by lack of poly\'s?
you mean lack of textures, or the lack of power to push those textures
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:laughing: Oh yeah, that\'s it but a $199 PC can\'t push BC like that. ;)
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Character models look ok though IMO.
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yer so quick with the tired cliche\'s, pstwo, it never amazes me
a 199$ PC can do dozens of things an xbox cannot
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These shots look pretty good, MM.. I don\'t see why you\'d challenge them..
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/me points to ground in the shots
ever play rallisport?
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It looks fine to me. A little underwhelming in certain areas, but great in others.
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Originally posted by mm
is the blur intentional?
I scrolled down this thread very slowly and I knew I would see you with that exact comment. Not trying to bust your chops but it made me laugh.
I don\'t even know whyt I am posting this. :laughing:
Ace
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actually, thats my only beef with the xbox anymore
the blur is like a crutch, just like fogging on the N64
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Originally posted by pstwo
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What\'s up with that? :o
I\'ll just go play Caveman on ps1 and keep mah woman to mahself.
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I have mixed feeling about the pics...for the most part they look good, but it\'s missing something.
a 199$ PC can do dozens of things an xbox cannot
Like MS word or excel...
actually, thats my only beef with the xbox anymore
the blur is like a crutch, just like fogging on the N64
And jaggies on PS2...:)
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i have nevr contested that
but look at games like ICO, or SH3. wheres the jaggies?
when xbox games finally lose the blur and lose the 30 fps, ill STFU
but, by that time, PS3 will be out, or ill be blind
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you don\'t see anyone bringing it up anymore though, because it\'s a tired issue.
no, but didn\'t you notice the blur in ICO?
Silent Hill 3...I wait to play the game and see it for myself.
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The blur is due to anisotropic filtering not being turned on. Most developers probably feel the trade off isn\'t worth it as anisotropic filtering causes a big hit in performance.
30fps is fine in most games, the only games that really need 60 are certain types of FPS(Quake3 and UT types) and fighting games. A constant 30 in pretty indistinguishable from 60 in any others.
ripped from Anandtech\'s Radeon 9700 review, these are shots of a GF4;
No Anio
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Nice looking.I like the water effects.But seeing that detailed character and textures in the foreground and all that blurriness 3 meters further and beyond makes the game feel kinda incomplete graphically.
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mm - the ground in Rallisport wasn\'t blur. It was a standard LOD model.
However the BACKGROUNDS in Rallisport had horrible bi-linear filtering appplied. THAT was annoying.
At least it ran at a constant 60fps tho (even in 4player Split Screen)
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This game is sounding somewhat better each time I read about it. At first I thought it was going to just be a big Pikmin rip-off (which I loved!) so I was interested, but skeptical. Now it seems to be getting much deeper, so I\'ll have to keep my eye on it. :)
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no, it was blur
level of detail of nothing to do with it
they wanted to achieve 60fps and that was thier way to do it
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well, whatever.
All I know is that from what I see, it just appears as tho the bumpmapping has disappeared. and detail lost. Not necessarily what I would call blur, because those are standard in any LOD model I\'ve ever seen.
Whereas the backgrounds WERE blurry... those trees were attrocious.
Meh, I don\'t care, I didn\'t like the game anyway. *waits for Colin McRae Rally 3*
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ugh, this got a wee bit off topic, didn\'t it? :)
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i cant even play rallisport the graphic engine is so flawed
im also waiting for CMR3
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that\'s a bit harsh :eek:
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seriously
i would play it and find myself staring at the point in the ground where the bump mapping stops and the blurring starts
unforgivable
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Originally posted by mm
i cant even play rallisport the graphic engine is so flawed
im also waiting for CMR3
Ah C\'mon, Rallisport graphics are the best to date on any system. Very detail textures.
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Unicron! prefers GT3(despite the jaggies)
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minus the blur of course, pstwo
and graphics aside, how is rallisport? *zzzzzzz
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Rallisport is a fine Rally game.
It\'s just a pity that Rally games havent surpassed the original Colin McRae rally yet. So there was no point in me buying a second, inferior one.
Particularly when CMR was awesome with a second player to just play destruction Derby with :D Wasn\'t as good in Rallisport =/
Gran Turismo had a fine Rally mode as well.
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rallisport=plain rally game trying to hide under nice graphics.
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Originally posted by Bobs_Hardware
Rallisport is a fine Rally game.
It\'s just a pity that Rally games havent surpassed the original Colin McRae rally yet. So there was no point in me buying a second, inferior one.
Particularly when CMR was awesome with a second player to just play destruction Derby with :D Wasn\'t as good in Rallisport =/
Gran Turismo had a fine Rally mode as well.
As much as I love GT, the rally mode was complete utter crap. Rallisport is one of the better rally games I\'ve played but not as good as CMR.
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Really? Then I must be weird, because I loved the Rally mode in GT. In fact, it was my favorite part of it (save maybe the F1 cars!)
oh, and my Skyline 0wnxorz j00!
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I find GT3 rally mode had a real car handling feel in the dirt than RSC. Just everything was in place like the way the car bites the dirt on the turns to the dirt clouds the car kicks up. Even the car models in GT3 looks better. I compared both of the Toyota Corollas and the GT3 one looks better.